2v2 StarCraft 2 Tutorial - Powerful Rush Combinations

[russiankgbagent9]

this is why gutterhulk was removed from the map pool

[BerryTC]

Um i sometime get 2 gates and 2 pylons then rush 5 zealots is that a bad thing to do?

[Jaipeesh]

@BerryTC good vs protoss, not so good against other things, a better zealot tactic in PvP would be getting one assimilator after first gateway and a cybernetics, while playing it defensively and seeing what the opponent has, incase this wont work (e.g dark templar cheese/ mass void rays) after cybernetics, you should build more gateways (up to 4) and a templar thing for legs, chronoboost legs ( while all this time pumping zealots) and then attack, this counters early expo, and not bad vs 4gate

[FFvs13noctis]

can u pick different colors for protoss??

[maico3010]

@davidishowiedoo As cool as this could be some cheese is an ok thing, but it's EVERY GAME. That aside this kind of update isnt easy to implement and would get a lot of negative feedback =/

[baconman274]

its pretty bad when i have to wait for AD's to buffer...=/

[GOcgyFLAMESgo]

@baconman274 haha noob! wait me too :`(

[AgeOfReclamation]

every 2v2 i play is either omniterran or zerg-toss

[Oreoclan]

Going for the most common, high pressure builds as 2 different races is a terrible idea due to the significant difference in timings for some of these builds. A standard 4 Gate hits at around the 5:45 mark. If the Zerg goes 7 Roach Rush, that hits at the 5:00 mark. So there's 45 seconds where both players don't do anything, and that's detrimental to the Zerg with 45 seconds of Roaches doing nothing.

It's best to look for builds that line up timing wise. Usually early pool and proxy gates/rax.

[Antifrost]

Funny how you're advocating rushing when you always get rushed in 4v4s :D

[mrmischeff]

"The stalker is too fat"

I bet there is a depressed stalker out there now husky.

Haha Nice.

[reaper17112]

Normally when i play zerg in 2 v 2, i roach rush

[Echo503]

9:05

"He's forcefielding this to prevent him from going down the ramp. . .

The Zealots can squeeze through though but the stalkers too fat"

Haha very blunt about stalkers

Huskateers!!!

[Insane1385]

This? Rushing? Nope, a rush in 2v2 has the Toss Gate built right next to the opposing bases. This is just regular attacking.

[ajmpinoywolf]

I played a 4v4 against 4 terran and they shared control and did a marine rush at around 4:30..pretty unstoppable

[Doncroft1]

Husky, we love you, but you are a massive noob.

[Hamtaro925]

I love how the top two comments miraculously managed to get 33 likes >_>

[Blueblox321]

All I see you do is all in.......... Newb

[VertigaDesignMEDIA]

best rush combination is as follows:

Reapers

Lings

Split them up into 2 groups for each.

4 seperate groups to take care of? IMPOSSIBLE.

[IrieStarcraft]

If you love 2v2s and wanna see some more powerful strategies and epic replays try my channel :D

[darkdestiny0002]

@IrieStarcraft

No.

Because no.

[Jacobs0s]

THat game's grahphic is really improved

where until is the limitation of Game's detail ?

[RickMyster99]

Husky likes the back doors. lol

[yeahyeah077]

husky you forgot to use your second gas!!!!! 6:42. No wonder you had to make so many zealots

[math99991]

what mean gl hf???

[thenightcomer]

@math99991 good luck have fun

[arsenprodigy]

nubs lol



[VIETNAMBILL]

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH...PLZ

[reu91]

@depueb145

Joined:

Apr 4, 2011

You and your company, stop being a leech on google.

[plaguita]

I'm starting to see a pattern here: If you happen to end up against Huskies in a ladder game, just state he's a fake Husky, your game will get insta-casted!

[LyricalDJ]

Hmm. Seems like shared unit control should be possible to turn of for a game. Especially when it's people who do not know eachother just wanting to have fun.

[TheQuaste]

nvidiaftw

[imaydayy]

good game



[Overbruce]

if i ever find myself playing gold players again i'll keep that in mind.... the guy with 2 observers has no idea where your army is... pro

[ignuz]

I think you mean, 2torial

[Artemes10]

3:21 that is the most distant attack i have ever seen from a probe

[staphinfection]

BOOOoooOOoo now all I'm going to see in my 2v2s is this crap... =((((

[ewaananen]

Where's the Zerg love?!!

[vaevictusama]

the most op 2 player opening would be one player saves up a lot of minerals and gas. focuses only on economy and static defense. The other ally if it is a zerg would tech up to mutas. then at the 6 ish minutes mark, give all of your min and gas to the zerg

and the zerg makes like 14 mutas at once. only counter would be stalkers, and mass marines

[joji64theninja]

@vaevictusama that could be. but if your opponents knew what they were doing, they would know that it would be more effective to go for a base race. if you see that many mutas in less than 8 minute then you know they're doing something fishy and attacking instead of trying to defend from mutas would be the best course of action. Mutas will never win in a base race and depending on what units you send in the attack you'll have a high chance of killing at least one of the players, if no both.

[vaevictusama]

@joji64theninja that is why the other player gets static defense. to prevent scouting workers and early rushes. The other team won't know what's coming. fly the mutas into their mineral line, then run away to the other mineral line. kill all their workers basically that is the game right there. normally players can share a ramp making the strategy more effective

[joji64theninja]

@vaevictusama

but what I'm saying is, if I was in that same position, and I didn't have enough AA or just felt like I don't want to be contained, then I would just take my combined army and go for an all-out attack. Static defense would not be enough to hold off such an attack.

[vaevictusama]

@joji64theninja yup however, if i was a terran though, I would lift off my buildings and fly to the edge of the map. the zerg ally dominating the sky unable to kill it. WIN! :)

[klynch42092]

if you rush dts you can easily beat this.. or one sentry.. split kill one half while your teammate beats the other... not that amazing..

[TheBlacksimth]

SCV LOVE SONG!!!.. woot



[Menello]

Awesome video, Huskie

[staphinfection]

Yeah, except this is terrible for 2x Zerg doing 10 pools, cause everyone else we play against just walls in, so then we have to play catch up, and lose in the end...

I would say the best at this would be double Terran, one person goes mass marines, the other goes mass marauders.... both get stim.

gg all the way to diamond.

[MyCelar]

@staphinfection Lol diamond :P

[Br0k3nW4LK]

Lol i alrdy been doing that after starcraft 2 came out 3 months ago

[klynch42092]

@Br0k3nW4LK

nice sentence creation. learn to speak before you post

[Feallh]

only works early game, once the harass starts, need more than 1 person controlling the armies

[coldnitess]

LOL wut? 5 observers

[Szeicheng]

Proxying the enemy natural is stronger. My friend and I have gotten to diamond doing that and moving out with 3 zealots and 2 marines. Our record with this build is 57W/25L. I tried to post a detailed build but my comment was too long. Im on my phone but I can post it when I'm home if anyone wants it

[Blekwave]

The unit share idea is great. You posting rush videos to saturate 2v2 even more with rushing is disappointing.

[haaner5]

pro strategy :P

[firemblemrules9]

How do you give control to other players and/or receive control from other players?

[XxiaojoeX]

@firemblemrules9 its in the allies menu. just check the box Control to let other allie to control. make sure your allies also press that box

[719Legend]

when it's 2v2 it is a whole different ball game from 1v1's and i think share control is a advantage no matter the skill lvl, sorry but even pro's can use help.

In 2v2's you fight together, think and micro/macro together or you both die in the end, not say you need Share on, but it helps much more then people think. "share control not recommended in randoms"

More 2v2's Husky!!

[gmanthebeast1]

@719Legend even pros can use help?pretty sure pros dont even paly 2v2,gg though

[firemblemrules9]

4:39 It's not so much your timing, Husky, but the fact that you have 6 extra probes on minerals. You never put probes on your second gas, and the reaper killed the 3 you put on the first one. If you had put 6 more right away on those asimilators you would probably only have like 500 minerals instead of 700. And 250 gas instead of 160, which would've helped you a lot later.

[Ehralur]

Big shame any caster on youtube would put a video up about this. As if there isn't enough of these kind of strats fucking up the game already... :S

[iowacub1]

I don't get why people would complain about cheese strats in 2v2. If you've played enough 2v2 you know that cheese is so common that its not worth complaining about... just deal with it.

[yoda1555]

hmmm this really worked!!! do some 3v3 and 4v4 too

[CircularEntertain]

Husky should shared unit control to (if buildings count to)

if that he could more efficient produce moar!

[TheAmbition23]

just wondering why they removed the "XXXXXX left the game." message from replays..kinda peeves me since my first thought for when the game freeezes isn't to think that its over or to look over and see the "Replay Complete" over the timer but instead to go "WTH HAPPENED!"..maybe its just me being an idiot lol

[MREXHALE]

husky 14pool 14gas 16 hatch speedlings rdy at 5 min so powerful whit a 3rax or 4gate helping

[MrMrchazz]

0:21 Then he watched this video... "Stalkers too fat" LOL!

[MrMrchazz]

0:21 Then he watched this video... "Stalers too fat" LOL!

[dfspspirit]

In like 8 out of the last 10 team league games I played so far, people rushed. Double 4racks or 4gate all the time, more predictable than the AI. It was great fun as you can imagine...

[MrMrchazz]

0:21 And then he watches this video...

[barraged]

Rushing is what kills this game

[darkYuris]

noob production in action...

ty very much Husky. that's like fungal growth on brains of ladder players.

[foxkashima]

its true and sad that rushes indeed wins 2vs2 team games.

my buddy and me lost alot of games, when we didnt rush. then we just started to rush ourself, and won around 8 of 10 games.

blizzard should change something, and make rushes less useful, imho.

[darkYuris]

@foxkashima use static defence. easy to hold against even double 4gate with bunch of spines and +1 lings.

[IUse2haveALife]

@foxkashima Shut up douchefag

[thefunkidz]

@foxkashima hoe can they change a couple of early marines/zealot/zerglings ???

by making them more expensive ? then it will ruin everything

less powerfull? wouldnt change much

it is nothing they can do so i belive

[Aesoe]

@thefunkidz Make scv/probe/drone stronger. Or do something like Warcraft 3 where the peons can pick up weapons.

[foxkashima]

@thefunkidz

true, it would be difficult too balance.

but actually i like the approach of warcraft 3 on anti-rush-measures. every race had a unique way to counter small rushes. e.g. human HQ could turn workers into soldiers for a short time. it was not too powerful, but useful against extreme rush tactics of WC2.

not saying they should implement same stuff into sc2. but more focus on longer games would be more interesting, imho.

[medraut567]

I love how everyone thinks "Huskies" is a "Fake husky". If they watch him, why don't they know his screen name?

[foxkashima]

@medraut567

screen names are not unique. everybody can name himself Huskies.

[tredogzs]

ahhhh Husky, i like playing out games in 2v2... hmmm 2v2 random should be a different league

[TheRenertaki]

@tredogzs it is diffrent league than a premade 2v2

[RecalisBros]

thats noob

[tNexusC]

@RecalisBros predictible you are.

[MsSleez]

That is game deadmatch again and sc 2 is against elders scrolls and it is loosing. So thumbs up if u want sc 2 to win

[Omellykim]

kekekekeekek

[invalice123]

this only works on other noobs.

[TheUserVEVO]

random thought, but i really want spider mines back, just sayin'

[MrXepion]

my 2v2 build revolves around holding off this rush and teching, festor ling is fantastic for catching any retreating opponents/ holding a person at the ramp.

[KingOSketchKomedy]

@Nevesycul ok.

Would you prefer mass cannon double expand into mass void ray?

Like nearly EVERY SINGLE PROTOSS in 1v1 is doing right now?

[explodingpandas1]

u should try very early zealot rush

me and my friend did it but were in silver so were not as good as husky

[sotirous]

we have played SEVERAL two versus two games

[SlayerStarcraft2]

... "10pool speedling"? :S

Really? 13 pool is much better, you gte more lings, as well as an expansion.

[racooney888]

@SlayerStarcraft2 You could say that about a 50 pool- 13 pool isnt a rush!!!

[undying1989]

FAKE husky...ahahaha rolf....

[ale03000]

Fake Husky? It's REAL stupid :)....

[Nyocurio]

@ale03000 do you play starcraft 2?

[StanleyYeats]

@8:23

Ooo, a pylon, i'm gonna kill the pylon.

[RMJ1984]

Did husky change race, dont change race because you get nerfed. If zerg did that there would not be any zerg.

[nefarious4209]

there arent that many dumbasses hating, almost 1000 likes and only like 50 dislikes

so yeah, everyone still loves you husky!!!! keep posting whatever the hell you want!

[OnlineMinecrafter]

HATERS

H-aving

T-owards

E-veryone

R-eaching

S-uccess

[OmfgItsNannerpants]

@OnlineMinecrafter fail... lol.

[tpigot]

@OnlineMinecrafter excellent spellchecking

[BigBrado420]

@OnlineMinecrafter HERP DERP

[lukelostit]

@OnlineMinecrafter You're missing an a there bruzz

[OnlineMinecrafter]

@lukelostit Damn xD Got it now :D

[lukelostit]

@OnlineMinecrafter :D i like it 

[nubbubnub]

i dont want to see husky play, he should just cast games of skilled players and stfu :D nuff said

[coconopalito]

@nubbubnub Wow took words out of my mouth!

[BstrdFck01]

You know who Husky is but don't know his BNet ID? For shame...

[gmanthebeast1]

@Ornivus whats a wait?

[masterofthor]

@Ornivus Stalker: yeah, but i dont die to those concussive OP mauraders without dem using dat stim-drug

[Ezixax]

@Ornivus its weight.

[alemary83]

wow!!

[Balgore8]

Noobs take note from me:

- Red didnt do a real '3-rax' build, where he could have had MANY many more marines, and an unstoppable ball of marines. (no gas)

- Never get a reaper (enemy made this mistake, but somehow it paid off acuse Husky is bad)

- Make sure your 4-gate timing is tight and that you get that stalker way before warp tech completes. Also, dont get two gas like Husky did (notice he wasnt even mining from it)

More or less though, Husky is right, and T1 Push is strong for teams

[PlayerStealther]

@Balgore8 Lol, kid, go make your own videos if you want to teach people how to play. Stop hating

[Balgore8]

@PlayerStealther I do. Did you even look at my channel? I am a high masters level player giving legitimate information here. If you want to discard it and be an ignorant noobsauce, be my guest. See you on the ladder.

[gunslinger1993]

@Balgore8 Nobody likes a smartass.

[Balgore8]

@gunslinger1993 Or a top 100 world ranked player giving you REAL pro advice? Disregard it, enjoy being an ignorant mouthy noobsauce. I enjoy smashing noobs like you on the ladder anyway. I dont see why I even bother helping with legitimate information when none of you fools listen. GG

[gunslinger1993]

@Balgore8 Like I said, nobody likes a smartass. I don't care if you're trying to help people out. You're still a still a dick, and I don't give a damn if you're top 100. I enjoy playing StarCraft II and that's all I really give a damn about

=]

Enjoy your life as a dickhead

[Balgore8]

@gunslinger1993 Enjoy your life as a noobsauce. I am not a dick, I am an honest person telling it how it is. If you cannot handle reality, you have some severe mental/self esteem issues surrounding you that you need to deal with. Most people can't handle the truth about being fat and stuff... Apparently you can't even handle the truth about a video game. Good luck surviving in the real world bud. You'll be serven me my beer, buttler!

[gunslinger1993]

@Balgore8 Hah, get your own damn beer.

[Phanzerpung]

What does he actually says in the start of the movies?

[Onihailftw]

@Phanzerpung h to the usky husky

[POINAE]

shared contro; is sweet. we use it a lot in 3v3

[cirkic]

i am going to try this for funs.

[the1onlynoob]

i play 3v3, i spwn as zerg, and i am up against 3 zergs, essentially I KNOW they are going to do 14 pool speedling stream into my base, even roaches didnt help. my allies sat in their base and loled at me >.>

[warghost95]

proton rush and 4 gate wins,

[IllumTheMessage]

Exactly why I don't play 2v2. 

[woo2fly18]

fuckin ads

[cpbtrifecta]

A great counter to this build is a ZT team that goes for a 2-rax and a 5-roach-rush. That will get to the opponents base before the 4-gate is ready and still be pretty powerful. If you get the roaches in front of the marines the roaches tank the damage and the marines have the DPS. It's very powerful and tough to hold. Especially a Toss 4-gate since the toss won't have many units when the rush arrives.

[Pirategoth]

@cpbtrifecta Actually... By the time that happens... I have about 12 units out to counter basically any rush. Protoss have that Chrono boost and it helps with getting units out faster. But yeah I see what you are getting at, but it's really tough to pull off.

[JesusTwoThousand]

why would you make a tutorial video and at the beginning say it's not good...

[xXIN33DM0N3YXx]

double upload^^

next game is exactly the same^^

exxept for another 2v2...

go ahead husky f*** these haters^^

[Myaora]

This isn't cheesing, it has a strong follow up in case your initial attack gets defeated, especially for Terran if done right. Instead of going 3 rax I go 5 rax but only make 1 tech lab and no reactors, this way I can continuously pump out marines and if I later expand and want to build more marines I ca then build reactors on all the rax instead of having to build new rax and THEN having to add reactors to those as well. Have quite some success in 2v2 playing that way.

[skycrusher00]

I keep hoping he doesnt 4gate in his games :(

[jonasn5]

win = win who would have thunk? :)

[Daeyocs]

Wow, 4Gate + 3Rax with shared unit control. How innovative.

[Hadoken13]

I love you and your four gate Husky <3

It is the smexiest build order of them all

[VincentSchraa]

these kind of team matches are soooooooooo boring and easy

[addemanns]

@VincentSchraa

They are easy until you're in high master league, then it's as hard as 1v1 basically.. Just different, as basically rushing is 100% stronger.

[Chochy]

@Kamakirigg what pisses me off about your comment is the apostrophe in gets and the lack of one in master's...WHY GOD WHY

[Kamakirigg]

@Chochy because english isn't everybodys first language, also I have 0 respect for people acting grammar police on youtube :)

[boomshakavideos]

@Kamakirigg it's lucky that no one gives a shit about who you respect or not.

[Kamakirigg]

@boomshakavideos are you really 31 years old, and that's the best you can do. Man that's sad x)

[StarCraftCrazy]

husky......quit speaking at 600wpm and notice that u uploaded this game combined wif ur ffa replay == i watched the 2v2....twice

[spampotato]

more 2v2s!

[TheFirefly000]

Why do people complain, he just makes tutorials for people who suck like me. :D

Give him a bit of slack and let him cast what he wants.

[nojdeux]

I'm not happy about this.

[lorenzosp93]

@legendin2 absolutely not... If you saw his videos about teamgames he says exactly what husky is saying here. Tamgames are about rushing and keeping the armies together, attacking early is a very effective way to do this.

[Xcoopa93]

4gate stalker

+

14gas14pool speedling is really cool and easy

as zerg, just get 200 gast for speed and +1 attack and pressure hard -> gg

[legendin2]

day9 would be sad :(. he tells his fans to play macro games

[inky091]

I like to use Skype when playing 2v2, 3v3, etc... Works well

[HecticWarzone]

i do the shared control in 3v3 with mass MMM between 3 people, we win everytime.

[Ghruul]

@HecticWarzone, thats because mmm is op :P

[HecticWarzone]

@Ghruul exactly, but it's all about the push before they get high tech like col or hydras.. We push when they half zerglings or marines, and we micro vs zealots. Just take out 1 player at a time.