Guys, I know we're all fans of the special operations here...but it's pretty annoying to those actually in these units to see uninformed civilians talk about and try to appear knowledgeable about them when all the information they have derives from what the CANSOFCOM releases and more often than not, rumors.
ok . one of my friends whos in the Canadian forces as basic infantry went on a training mission in texas with the US army rangers . from what i herd the rangers could barely keep up and function like the Canadians did .
Actually that first clip is from the Princess of Wales Own Regiment armoury in Kingston, Ontario. I'd recognize that place anywhere considering I'm there every wednesday
@GmonyZB JTF 2 pass rate is around 10% while CSOR pass rate is around 30-40%. That being said, CSOR is more of a Ranger/Green Beret type unit that specialize in special recce, direct action, training foreign militaries, etc. JTF2 does counter terrorism operations and the dirty work the government needs done in order to keep foreign policy sharp. So really, CSOR isn't really comparable since JTF 2 recruits from CSOR.
@SNeyePED I believe you are quite accurate... Only thing I would say is that Green Beret are not on the same league as the Ranger as they are one step above. CSOR would compare more with the Rangers. JTF-2 compares more with Navy SEALs and Delta Force. Green Beret are somewhere between Rangers and Delta Force.
@MadamKouassi JTF2 missions are not all told to the public. Much of their work is kept secret. Makes getting the job done alot easier. The US doesn't do the same with their SF they just go on and on about their missions all the time. JTF2 has been in many war zones and were even involved with the invasion of Iraq
@b4igetu Which invasion of Iraq? Because from what I understand, JTF2 wasn't even around until 1993 and didn't even have much experience with hit and run style raids before they landed in Afghanistan and began cross training with the SAS and Delta. Before that all they did was "green work": reconnaissance and sniping in Rwanda and Bosnia. Peace keeping missions. Afghanistan has been their first real engagement where they've been going in to conduct raids with friendly forces.
@MadamKouassi In 2005, four human rights workers from a group called the CPT (Christian Peacemaker Team) were kidnapped and held hostage by a group called the Swords of Righteousness Brigade. Two of the hostages were Canadian citizens. Therefore, Canadian special forces, including elements of JTF2 were involved in attemting to secure the hostages.
@MadamKouassi 1 of the hostages was executed before any military action was taken. The 3 remaining hostages were rescued in a raid involving both Britian's SAS, and Canada's JTF2. RCMP and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service were also involved. British Royal Marine Commandos and Paratroopers played a support role.
@GearHead1087 i have a interest in joining CSIS but dont know much info, i know they do operations such as US CIA and have no authority in Canada but in foriegn countries what are they able to do? i heard they are not allowed to be armed?
@Northernsharpshooter They do have authority in Canada, CSIS does domestic as well as international operations. They go and gather intelligence in support of the government, like right now in Afghanistan and other places. Secret agents will have secret identities, that's just a given.
@SNeyePED well I just got word i have been approved and accepted for the miltary so i am happy, maybe when i get out (dont plan on staying for life) i will persue CSIS or RCMP.
@MadamKouassi You're right about about when JTF2 was formed. But you are comepletely wrong about their field experience. They have been activily involved in joint US/Canada engagments and major operations in Afghanistan. They are highly professional, and highly renowned for their work. For their work in Afghanistan they were awarded the United States Presidential Unit Citation............Maybe you didnt know, but Canadians are always sent into the worst sitiuations. thats why they got Kandahar
@GearHead1087 I haven't been quite fair with JTF2 in that respect no. they have a lot more combat xp now than before. However I did get my information from a book that discusses in depth everything about JTF2, from it's formation until very recently.
You are right though. Now JTF2 works alongside more coalition forces to help them accomplish multilateral objectives in places like Afghanistan. But before, they only really served the role of reconnaissance during Canadian peace missions.
@eltrugel wrong buddy. JTF2 was created in 1993 when the military took over the responsibility of counter-terrorism from the RCMP. However, JTF2, being a Canadian Special Forces unit means they can trace their history back to The Devil's Brigade from WW2, but this does not mean it is the same unit. It is not..... Also the nickname Red Devils was given to the British Paratroopers in ww2, this had nothing to do with The Devil's Brigade.
@MadamKouassi sorry to butt in on the convo, but I just wanted to point out that the Canadian/American joint special forces unit was called the 1st Special Service Force, also known as The Devil's Brigade. Not the Red Devils. just wanted to point that out, its easy to get confused.
@GearHead1087 Oh, okay. Yeah. I knew it was Devil's something. Red Devils just sounded right so I thought that was it. Thanks for clearing that up, mate.
But I don't know if anybody here has read ''We wew soldier'' or ''Nous étions invincibles'' With Denis Moriset!??! But in that book!! They said the JTF2 was form by SAS, Delta Forces and Rangers!! Not Navy Seals... This is true it's in a book... But in the begening... HAHA!!
@25Milimeter the canadian army rangers are a reserve army unit that patrols the northern territories of canada and the reg force canadian infantry is equally trained as the american army rangers im saying this because csor is not the canadian army ranger the canadian army rangers is a reserve unit google it if your still unsure
@gav624 Our Rangers are called the same as US Rangers, but have different roles. Canadian Rangers are reserves in the Arctic regions of Canada, CSOR is our version of Rangers/Green Berets.
It is my understanding that JTF2 is Canadas SAS, Delta force, while CSOR is Canadas, Green Berets, or Army Rangers. More geered for battle field comando operations? Also does anyone know if CSOR have been used in Afganstian in any actual operations yet. I know JTF2 has.
i have friends in csor there sort of the inbetweeners.if the situation is'nt bad enough and jtf don't need to go in they send csor.there a step up from infantry basically.i've seen some fat sacks in the support.i heard they're given time to slim up or they are out.and i agree if someone was jtf they would not announce it on here.for 1 security of themself and 2nd they're to mature to come on here blabbing like a child.oh and my buddies who are csor are cpl's but i'm sure there are officers in it
i have friends in csor there sort of the inbetweeners.if the situation is'nt bad enough and jtf don't need to go in they send csor.there a step up from infantry basically.i've seen some fat sacks in the support.i heard they're given time to slim up or they are out.and i agree if someone was jtf they would not announce it on here.for 1 security of themself and 2nd they're to mature to come on here blabbing like a child
@jeffex99 LOL LOL LOL i laughed at this comment for an 10 min you were NOT in JTF2. Reason one, JTF2 Operatives Are not allowed to reveal their identity since it proves danger to themselves and famliy members. 2 A normal CF member wouldent brag about being in the army. and number 3. The canadian gorverment still denies the existence. i could keep going but i think this is enough to prove you were not in JTF2. I think its sad that you would pretend to be canada's most elite....
@MarineForceReconCorp True, but the canadian government does say they exist.... hell the government even made a site for them. It's pretty stupid for a government to pretend when a unit is not real when every person in the world knows it is.
@RM8913 ok first of all, CSOR is a SFSG, they support operations for other special forces. secondly, no you were not in JTF2. I also asked if CSOR operatives were enlisted or officers.
so stop bullshiting you were in JTF2.
If you were, what regiment were you in, and who was your commanding officer? because by the sounds of it you are some 12 year old kid who has nothing better to do with his/her miserable life then to go on youtube and tell other people that he/she was in JTF2.
man all u kids are bugging me you dont join the army and tell everybody u want to be spec ops that does not look good on you that you wish to leave your regiment you are posted with If I were you i would shut the fuck up about wanting to be spec ops untill ur 2 years is up and then think about it
@fightingBRITISH You have to have 2 years regular force or 3 years reserve. then you have to pass interviews, be approved by chain of command, then pass a hard fitness test, and then pass Selection (essentially a "Hell Week"). if you pass selection, you'll get picked up for the 6-7 months special operations operator course. JTF2 is much harder and very different, and has much higher standards.
@MadamKouassi dude they had sf ops in ww1, they have been training sf members of the canadian army since we were in british units, re read your ww1 history buddy.
@MetaliCanuck They were not classified as special forces back then. They did use canadian soldiers as shock troops to punch through the german lines and creat havock until the regular troops came to sweep up the rest, but there were not any real dedicated special ops units back then. Our real true first SF unit was the 1st Special Service Force of WW2, or "Devils Brigade".
@GearHead1087 I was asking what the seond one was at 3:50 but then I read the info and saw it great song..plus its a Canadian band... AMAZING VIDEO please post more
@HatakeStrife well its easy to say that because they are both SF units. SF units are going to be alot alike no matter what country they are from. But I would still say that the US equivalent to CSOR are Rangers, because CSOR is mainly a support unit for JTF2, they can provide the man power when JTF2 needs it. Just like Army Rangers are to DELTA. The Green Berets are not a support unit, so therefore I believe CSOR are more like Rangers.
@GearHead1087 CSOR is not just a support unit for the JTF2, they are a main unit of the CAF who fight GREEN OPS, they are no different then berets, rangers etc.....You look in those really tall hills and stan those are CSOR troops firing the sniper rounds with the coalition sf teams.
@MetaliCanuck a friend of mine has done 3 tours with CSOR and I can say this he has not worked with any memeber of JTF2 on any missions! CSOR is a UNIT made up of 4 squads 3 direct action and one support unit they do have to shave still and they do get to use silencers and other tech that reg infantry would not have access too. i would bet on a CSOR unit to take out a SEAL team due to its size , im sorry but a 8 man SEAL team is no match for 25-40 CSOR SPECIALISTS HOOOOWAAAAAAA
@PcGamerPaul True and not true. The flaw with your statement is right there: "they're new, might not have alot of experience".
The SAS have been around for years and they have that experience. While JTF2 may copy what they do, they don't know why. The methods the SAS use are the tried and tested ones that are guaranteed to work, because they've tried every method known, and the ones they use work the best.
JTF2 are good, and they're brilliant soldiers, but the SAS still come out first. Peace.
@MadamKouassi I would respectfully disagree. Since they all train together, S.A.S., DELTA, JTF2. None would come out on top. They are equal. Im not trying to start anything. I just think its wrong to say that S.A.S. are a better SF unit just because they are older.
@GearHead1087 I agree and disagree. They all have slightly different methods, some better in other fields than the rest.
But the SAS have the lowest failed mission count of ANY SF regiment.
Age means experience, and while many emerging special forces are adopting tried and tested methods and coming out as very well defined forces, they will never be able to fully compare to what the SAS bring to the table.
That's all I'm trying to say. But yes, your point makes sense. Peace, man. :)
@MadamKouassi For the most part, I agree. The SAS are the oldest special forces unit in the world, clearly that gives them the most experience. But to say that they are the best because of experience alone is not right. Not all of the SAS are old school veterans. They all have to start somewhere, and I would say that all NEW members of all special forces units in NATO are equaly skilled.
@GearHead1087 Yes, now I see what you mean. SAS have to begin somewhere as they still have new recruits coming in, so if that's the case and they can pick up the same skills, then so can other SF candidates.
in a international poll a university posted the top 5 special forces of the world. JTF2 was in the top 5, Delta and SAS were not. being a university the poll studied each countries special forces. training, language training, etc..I'm high...
@HatakeStrife I agree with you on that. I do believe JTF2 is one of the top most deadly SF units. I just dont like saying it too much because it makes people mad, and everyone starts arguing and saying that SAS or DELTA is the best. anyway, thanks for the comments
@GearHead1087 hahaha people say delta and sas are best because thats all they see on there video games, any actual military member who has ever been involved with sf of any kind, knows what jtf2 is about, and all respect and bow
@eltrugel hmmm, i've never seen DELTA in a video game. I didnt say that they were the best in the world. I said they both are two of the best SF units in the world. I dont think anyone can argue that fact. I never said anything insulting about JTF2, I mean I made this video, and I also made a JTF2 video. I have nothing but respect for both CSOR and JTF2
@eltrugel couldnt have said it better myself, people seem to forget the JTF2 are the ONLY SF that can be mixed in conbat with SAS or DF units, the US and British counterfolk Generals know what we are about, the real problem is the avg american has no clue.
@MadamKouassi its too bad your clueless when it comes to the past operations by the jtf2, they have been aside SAS throughout history, and thats the way the canadian government wants even its own people to believe
@PcGamerPaul they are'nt that new and it would'nt matter if there new,they still recieve the same training as other special forces,and usually they recruit from within,they don't just pull people off the street and hand them a rifle.most guys have already had military training,and yes i know a bit because i have 2 friends that tried out for jtf but failed and they were really fit
@rayoliver34 according to the government its impossible to get in to jtf unless you have at least a couple of years of military experience and even then you have to meet the extreme conditions then you go for try outs and something like less then 1% make it correct me if im wrong please
@ironsaber2 yah they like to recruit from within.better to have someone with some training then none at all.i have 2 friends that tried to get in and failed.it's done on a point system.everything you do is worth points.my 1 friend failed by 1 point.both were very fit and smart.
you know I like this, they have a place to do this things. is not like in my country when my dad lended the house to the army to stay, they started to film practices like kicking the doors and shit. how did we found out, thanks to the news, they were reporting their training. so my dad kicked them out of the house.
@pillarkutless777 They are both hardcore. JTF2 is our elite SF, they are a small highly trained unit. They can be compared to US DELTA Force. CSOR is a much larger unit. They are very much like US Army Rangers. Just like Rangers support DELTA, CSOR supports JTF2. To answer your question, JTF2 is a more highly trained SF unit.
@illinfantry and why would you think that??? Rangers are special forces. Unless you have been in both CSOR and US Army Rangers yourself, then you wouldnt know which one is on a higher level now would you? Show some respect to our American brothers. This isnt a competition, we're on the same side. There is a difference between being a patriot, and being a nationalist. You can love your country without disrespecting others.
@GearHead1087 I wouldn't say that the rangers are spical forces, diffenitly elite, highly traind traind, but thats about it, an elite infontry unit. In Canadian army there is a coures you can take, and sometimes it even means going down and going through the rangeers training side by side with them. but in the end it does not mean you are specoal forces, you stell go home to your unit
@8l1ndman Well the US military classifies them as Special forces, so thats good enough for me. Yes, Rangers are not as elite as for example DELTA force. But they play a supportive role to DELTA, just like CSOR does for JTF2. They are not the best of the best, but they are elite special forces
@GearHead1087 because we send regular ass infantry troops to go train with the rangers! BEEN THERE DONE that i didnt come back a SF member, trust me buddy. Besides the rangers make an anual training meet here in petawawa yearly for some fresh pointers with our instructors and brigades. The ranger are a really good infantry unit id fight alongside any day, but there no better then my local comrades in the Dragoons etc.
CSOR and JTF2 are different units with different skillsets. BOTH are "hardcore" but JTF2 are focussed on domestic ops rather than foreign, as JTF2 took the helm over from SERT. The CSOR selection is shorter for different reasons, but CSOR is no cop out. 9/10 times JTF2 wont take a CSOR operator on course because they each have different training methods and both units hammer them home to far to forget.
@dekkard1221 There is a new regiment named Task Force Arrowhead.Canada's new quick-reaction force which will be set in 2011,composing of CSOR operatives and JTF2 assaulters .
@dekkard1221 from what i was told, i saw apresentation on jtf2 and csor at cflrs, and from what i got out of it jtf2 is not just for domestic but also does foregn ops, like hostge rescue
JTF2, Delta, SAS, KSK... They're all like top notch SF units. I think it'd be a straight out draw between any of them.
SAS has the most experience, and I think that IN MY OPINION, makes them the best special forces unit. Experience, and a long successful track record gives the SAS a superior edge. But still, they all kick so much ass. Go allied SF.
Canadian soldiers receive the longest basic instruction course, and ALL armed forces personnel are trained first as basic infantry, even in the air force or a naval mechanic. our boys could use that gear they were promised a little sooner though, at least they have the necessities of combat infantry. a rifle, a helmet, and training.
I made this video, but im not in PWOR. When I first saw the footage of them I was told it was CSOR, then someone in the regiment told me it wasnt, so I had to changed the name of the video.
@XxtekiexX I know. Who said they were the same??? They are very different. CSOR can be compared to US Army Rangers, and JTF2 is modeled after units like DELTA Force. CSOR supports JTF2, just like Rangers support DELTA
@XxtekiexX Omg, I completely agree!!! I love deadliest warrior. I just dont agree with alot of the matchups. Like when they put Green Berets against Spetsnaz. It should have been DELTA. but yeah, I hope they decide to do an episode with JTF2 one day. That would be awesome.
@GearHead1087 well considering US, Canada, and even Britian have such great elite forces we are also very close allies and Canada is a kick ass country however we pretty much use what everyone else uses, and in Deadliest warrior they base everything on weapons, which is important but skill and training would be equal if not more important, not to mention JTF2 is a newer task force that the gov. tried to keep very hush hush, and have done a very good job at it, its hard to get any info about it.
@Northernsharpshooter I agree...I find Deadliest Warrior although entertaining (on the weaponry and such), it is pretty unrealistic, considering the way they determine the winning team.
@SDN54 I as well find the weapons part interesting...i forgot bout this video so thanks for the reminder that its out there now I can lsiten to it again :)
@SNeyePED Its not probable, but I wouldnt say impossible. They did Green Berets vs. Spetznaz before. The only reason why they wouldnt want to do JTF2 vs. DELTA, or S.A.S. is because we are close allies.
Wtf? How is this video bullshit? The title of the video is Canadian Forces and CSOR in action. Its not just CSOR, I made that clear. Read the discription. Please tell me exactly why you would call this video bullshit. I was told that it was CSOR at the beginning, but then someone told me it isnt, so I changed the title. I respect your service, but you have no right to say my video is bullshit.
Is there any part of the forces that don't do drill because as a cadet I HATE IT.JESUS standing there i always feel like passing out.I just wanna join JTF2 or CSOR.
@game1208 Well then your doing to have to suck it up and pass out or don't join. In order to join JTF2 or CSOR you have to do time in another trade prior to applying. Your choice.
@ilovebears86 lol i was infantry for a year in the reserves, its a hard job. now im out of the forces and thinking of rejoining reg force and im reading at all the different trades but non appeal to me like infantry does, if you sign up for infantry, trust me. you'll grow to love it :]
I was thinking of Aviation Technician. Or the like, pretty much anything that has to do with working with the birds. Looking back on my life I think I was meant to join the military, there are many things about society that just doesn't make sense. I think it needs to function exactly like the military. Atleast if I get in my ideals of what should be will be a reality instead of a fantasy.
@ILoveBears86 yeah i wanted to re-join as an avtech but knowing my one year experience in the infantry, i dont think id be able to do any other trade :P
Guys, I know we're all fans of the special operations here...but it's pretty annoying to those actually in these units to see uninformed civilians talk about and try to appear knowledgeable about them when all the information they have derives from what the CANSOFCOM releases and more often than not, rumors.
notsureifursrs 3 weeks ago
ok . one of my friends whos in the Canadian forces as basic infantry went on a training mission in texas with the US army rangers . from what i herd the rangers could barely keep up and function like the Canadians did .
ArrowSmith95 3 weeks ago
Actually that first clip is from the Princess of Wales Own Regiment armoury in Kingston, Ontario. I'd recognize that place anywhere considering I'm there every wednesday
JTF2GAMER 1 month ago
I know JTF2 is the best of the best, but how does CSOR compare to it in terms of training, missions and overall capabilities of the soldiers?
GmonyZB 2 months ago
@GmonyZB JTF 2 pass rate is around 10% while CSOR pass rate is around 30-40%. That being said, CSOR is more of a Ranger/Green Beret type unit that specialize in special recce, direct action, training foreign militaries, etc. JTF2 does counter terrorism operations and the dirty work the government needs done in order to keep foreign policy sharp. So really, CSOR isn't really comparable since JTF 2 recruits from CSOR.
SNeyePED 2 months ago
@SNeyePED JTF2 is canadian primary special forces..they never failed one mission and they hold alot of records.
R3dTigerM40A3 1 month ago
@SNeyePED I believe you are quite accurate... Only thing I would say is that Green Beret are not on the same league as the Ranger as they are one step above. CSOR would compare more with the Rangers. JTF-2 compares more with Navy SEALs and Delta Force. Green Beret are somewhere between Rangers and Delta Force.
mart775 4 weeks ago
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CSORROSC 5 months ago
@CSORROSC exactly. thats why it says Canadian Army, and CSOR. not just CSOR..... I've been over this a few times before.
GearHead1087 5 months ago
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CSORROSC 5 months ago
@MadamKouassi JTF2 missions are not all told to the public. Much of their work is kept secret. Makes getting the job done alot easier. The US doesn't do the same with their SF they just go on and on about their missions all the time. JTF2 has been in many war zones and were even involved with the invasion of Iraq
b4igetu 6 months ago
@b4igetu Which invasion of Iraq? Because from what I understand, JTF2 wasn't even around until 1993 and didn't even have much experience with hit and run style raids before they landed in Afghanistan and began cross training with the SAS and Delta. Before that all they did was "green work": reconnaissance and sniping in Rwanda and Bosnia. Peace keeping missions. Afghanistan has been their first real engagement where they've been going in to conduct raids with friendly forces.
MadamKouassi 6 months ago
@MadamKouassi hes speaking of the current war in Iraq. not the gulf war.
GearHead1087 6 months ago
@GearHead1087 I thought Canada had intended on keeping out of Iraq altogether.
MadamKouassi 6 months ago
@MadamKouassi In 2005, four human rights workers from a group called the CPT (Christian Peacemaker Team) were kidnapped and held hostage by a group called the Swords of Righteousness Brigade. Two of the hostages were Canadian citizens. Therefore, Canadian special forces, including elements of JTF2 were involved in attemting to secure the hostages.
GearHead1087 6 months ago
@GearHead1087 Very interesting. I didn't know that. And did they carry out the operation? Was it a success?
MadamKouassi 6 months ago
@MadamKouassi 1 of the hostages was executed before any military action was taken. The 3 remaining hostages were rescued in a raid involving both Britian's SAS, and Canada's JTF2. RCMP and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service were also involved. British Royal Marine Commandos and Paratroopers played a support role.
GearHead1087 6 months ago
@GearHead1087 i have a interest in joining CSIS but dont know much info, i know they do operations such as US CIA and have no authority in Canada but in foriegn countries what are they able to do? i heard they are not allowed to be armed?
Northernsharpshooter 5 months ago
@Northernsharpshooter They do have authority in Canada, CSIS does domestic as well as international operations. They go and gather intelligence in support of the government, like right now in Afghanistan and other places. Secret agents will have secret identities, that's just a given.
SNeyePED 2 months ago
@SNeyePED well I just got word i have been approved and accepted for the miltary so i am happy, maybe when i get out (dont plan on staying for life) i will persue CSIS or RCMP.
Northernsharpshooter 2 months ago
@MadamKouassi You're right about about when JTF2 was formed. But you are comepletely wrong about their field experience. They have been activily involved in joint US/Canada engagments and major operations in Afghanistan. They are highly professional, and highly renowned for their work. For their work in Afghanistan they were awarded the United States Presidential Unit Citation............Maybe you didnt know, but Canadians are always sent into the worst sitiuations. thats why they got Kandahar
GearHead1087 7 months ago
@GearHead1087 I haven't been quite fair with JTF2 in that respect no. they have a lot more combat xp now than before. However I did get my information from a book that discusses in depth everything about JTF2, from it's formation until very recently.
You are right though. Now JTF2 works alongside more coalition forces to help them accomplish multilateral objectives in places like Afghanistan. But before, they only really served the role of reconnaissance during Canadian peace missions.
MadamKouassi 7 months ago
@eltrugel wrong buddy. JTF2 was created in 1993 when the military took over the responsibility of counter-terrorism from the RCMP. However, JTF2, being a Canadian Special Forces unit means they can trace their history back to The Devil's Brigade from WW2, but this does not mean it is the same unit. It is not..... Also the nickname Red Devils was given to the British Paratroopers in ww2, this had nothing to do with The Devil's Brigade.
GearHead1087 7 months ago
@MadamKouassi sorry to butt in on the convo, but I just wanted to point out that the Canadian/American joint special forces unit was called the 1st Special Service Force, also known as The Devil's Brigade. Not the Red Devils. just wanted to point that out, its easy to get confused.
GearHead1087 7 months ago
@GearHead1087 Oh, okay. Yeah. I knew it was Devil's something. Red Devils just sounded right so I thought that was it. Thanks for clearing that up, mate.
MadamKouassi 7 months ago
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If you apply for JTF2 and fail, can you still apply for CSOR?
THeROcKerLUVER 7 months ago
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THeROcKerLUVER 7 months ago
But I don't know if anybody here has read ''We wew soldier'' or ''Nous étions invincibles'' With Denis Moriset!??! But in that book!! They said the JTF2 was form by SAS, Delta Forces and Rangers!! Not Navy Seals... This is true it's in a book... But in the begening... HAHA!!
Hugomtl 8 months ago
Most well trained army in the world, without a doubt!
kilroe88 8 months ago
Most well trained army in the world, without a doubt!
kilroe88 8 months ago
CSOR = Rangers/SEALs/Green Berets
JTF2 = SFOD-D (Delta Force)/DEVGRU (SEAL Team 6)
SNeyePED 9 months ago
Pretty much everything in the video is stuff we do in the regular infantry, aside from freefall para...
Thetotallyrandomdude 10 months ago
@treviesm3 if the majority make it In then how do 600 soldiers try out every year yet JTF2 consists of 300 members?
DrewMC36 11 months ago
@DrewMC36 400, actually. And that's an obvious lie. The JTF2 take the best and the brightest.
kingdemon815 10 months ago
@kingdemon815 CSOR is like Canada's Army Rangers,or Navy SEALS. They should have classified training too.
25Milimeter 9 months ago
@25Milimeter i thought CSOR was equivalent to US Delta force and JTF2 was equivalent to US Navy Seals
Flipazn777 9 months ago
@Flipazn777 Delta Force is higher-up than Navy SEALs,like JTF-2 is higher-up than CSOR. CSOR = Canadian Army Rangers/Navy SEALS,JTF-2 = Delta Force.
25Milimeter 9 months ago
@25Milimeter our reg force infantry is as trained as the us army rangers and the canadian army rangers are a northern defense unit
gav624 9 months ago
@gav624 Thats the most exaggerated thing I've ever heard,and makes no sense.
25Milimeter 9 months ago
@25Milimeter the canadian army rangers are a reserve army unit that patrols the northern territories of canada and the reg force canadian infantry is equally trained as the american army rangers im saying this because csor is not the canadian army ranger the canadian army rangers is a reserve unit google it if your still unsure
gav624 9 months ago
@gav624 Our Rangers are called the same as US Rangers, but have different roles. Canadian Rangers are reserves in the Arctic regions of Canada, CSOR is our version of Rangers/Green Berets.
SNeyePED 9 months ago
@SNeyePED ya i know you guy have us army rangers and i know what the canadian rangers are... i just said that
gav624 9 months ago
@Flipazn777 JTf2 is more like the british SAS and CSOR like the US army special forces (green berets)
hellsle 8 months ago
It is my understanding that JTF2 is Canadas SAS, Delta force, while CSOR is Canadas, Green Berets, or Army Rangers. More geered for battle field comando operations? Also does anyone know if CSOR have been used in Afganstian in any actual operations yet. I know JTF2 has.
MegaWolfgang 11 months ago
@MegaWolfgang Yeah, CSOR has been operating in Afghanistan since around... 2008ish. No specific information has been given what they have done.
SNeyePED 11 months ago
@SNeyePED I guess the government has the same no comment policy with CSOR as they Do with JTF2?
MegaWolfgang 11 months ago
@MegaWolfgang Yeah, but I expect in the later future there will be information released about CSOR since they aren't as secretive as JTF-2.
SNeyePED 11 months ago
i have friends in csor there sort of the inbetweeners.if the situation is'nt bad enough and jtf don't need to go in they send csor.there a step up from infantry basically.i've seen some fat sacks in the support.i heard they're given time to slim up or they are out.and i agree if someone was jtf they would not announce it on here.for 1 security of themself and 2nd they're to mature to come on here blabbing like a child.oh and my buddies who are csor are cpl's but i'm sure there are officers in it
rayoliver34 1 year ago
i have friends in csor there sort of the inbetweeners.if the situation is'nt bad enough and jtf don't need to go in they send csor.there a step up from infantry basically.i've seen some fat sacks in the support.i heard they're given time to slim up or they are out.and i agree if someone was jtf they would not announce it on here.for 1 security of themself and 2nd they're to mature to come on here blabbing like a child
rayoliver34 1 year ago
is CSOR mainly enlisted men, or officers?
RM8913 1 year ago
@RM8913 they're elite soldiers sent behind enemy lines, i know this because i've sevred in the CF as a JTF2
jeffex99 1 year ago
@jeffex99 LOL LOL LOL i laughed at this comment for an 10 min you were NOT in JTF2. Reason one, JTF2 Operatives Are not allowed to reveal their identity since it proves danger to themselves and famliy members. 2 A normal CF member wouldent brag about being in the army. and number 3. The canadian gorverment still denies the existence. i could keep going but i think this is enough to prove you were not in JTF2. I think its sad that you would pretend to be canada's most elite....
MarineForceReconCorp 1 year ago 2
@MarineForceReconCorp True, but the canadian government does say they exist.... hell the government even made a site for them. It's pretty stupid for a government to pretend when a unit is not real when every person in the world knows it is.
SNeyePED 1 year ago
@SNeyePED yes sorry your correct the book "Canadas Secret Commandos JTF2" said they denied their existence but later told they were real
MarineForceReconCorp 1 year ago
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SOL1TARYxIVIAN 1 year ago
@RM8913 ok first of all, CSOR is a SFSG, they support operations for other special forces. secondly, no you were not in JTF2. I also asked if CSOR operatives were enlisted or officers.
so stop bullshiting you were in JTF2.
If you were, what regiment were you in, and who was your commanding officer? because by the sounds of it you are some 12 year old kid who has nothing better to do with his/her miserable life then to go on youtube and tell other people that he/she was in JTF2.
RM8913 1 year ago
@RM8913 JTF2 is a Tier One company a.k.a. black ops.
Source:Wiki
SOL1TARYxIVIAN 1 year ago
man all u kids are bugging me you dont join the army and tell everybody u want to be spec ops that does not look good on you that you wish to leave your regiment you are posted with If I were you i would shut the fuck up about wanting to be spec ops untill ur 2 years is up and then think about it
GREENMARINE420 1 year ago
A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE IS IN CSOR! JUST WANT TO THANK HIM AND THE REST OF OUR FORCES FOR WHAT THEY DO! HOOOOOOOWAAAAAAAA MUTHER FUCKERS
GREENMARINE420 1 year ago
Somebody please answer!!! How do you join CSOR? Can you just go sign up or do you need to have prior military experience like in the JTF2??
fightingBRITISH 1 year ago
@fightingBRITISH you need atleast 3 years in the military already and you only get 1 chance if you fail they wont let you try again
hammerhead4896 1 year ago
@hammerhead4896 for both CSOR and JTF2, you have 3 chances at passing Selection. after that they won't even look at your file anymore
dvooght1 1 year ago
@hammerhead4896 this is not true my friend failed a few sections of the CSOR tests and was allowed to retry those certain sections a few weeks later.
GREENMARINE420 1 year ago
@hammerhead4896 wrong
eltrugel 1 year ago
@fightingBRITISH You have to have 2 years regular force or 3 years reserve. then you have to pass interviews, be approved by chain of command, then pass a hard fitness test, and then pass Selection (essentially a "Hell Week"). if you pass selection, you'll get picked up for the 6-7 months special operations operator course. JTF2 is much harder and very different, and has much higher standards.
dvooght1 1 year ago
WHOA that first part is at the PWOR
53murphy53 1 year ago
all reserve are aloud do almost excersice but not facny firearms like the P90 and other gears
Shazee083 1 year ago
@MadamKouassi hmm thats 90 some years get with it
MetaliCanuck 1 year ago
@MadamKouassi dude they had sf ops in ww1, they have been training sf members of the canadian army since we were in british units, re read your ww1 history buddy.
MetaliCanuck 1 year ago
@MetaliCanuck They were not classified as special forces back then. They did use canadian soldiers as shock troops to punch through the german lines and creat havock until the regular troops came to sweep up the rest, but there were not any real dedicated special ops units back then. Our real true first SF unit was the 1st Special Service Force of WW2, or "Devils Brigade".
GearHead1087 1 year ago
im joing the csor when i get out of reserves next year i join reserves cuz ill be 16 ill be taking infantry then im gonna join the spec ops of canada
jasonvoorheesfan606 1 year ago
second song?
Northernsharpshooter 1 year ago
@Northernsharpshooter yeah, as in there being two songs in this video
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 I was asking what the seond one was at 3:50 but then I read the info and saw it great song..plus its a Canadian band... AMAZING VIDEO please post more
Northernsharpshooter 1 year ago
Why can't I find anything open-source on the Tier system?
It may clear things up here a little in comparing different non-conventional forces...
57ftw 1 year ago
CSOR functions more like the US Army Green Berets. same tasks and everything.
so.. the Canadian equivalent to the Green Berets is CSOR. not the Rangers.
HatakeStrife 1 year ago
@HatakeStrife well its easy to say that because they are both SF units. SF units are going to be alot alike no matter what country they are from. But I would still say that the US equivalent to CSOR are Rangers, because CSOR is mainly a support unit for JTF2, they can provide the man power when JTF2 needs it. Just like Army Rangers are to DELTA. The Green Berets are not a support unit, so therefore I believe CSOR are more like Rangers.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 CSOR is not just a support unit for the JTF2, they are a main unit of the CAF who fight GREEN OPS, they are no different then berets, rangers etc.....You look in those really tall hills and stan those are CSOR troops firing the sniper rounds with the coalition sf teams.
MetaliCanuck 1 year ago 2
@MetaliCanuck I didnt say that they only support JTF2, I said that is one of their primary roles.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@MetaliCanuck true say
tylerwhatelsecanisay 1 year ago
@MetaliCanuck a friend of mine has done 3 tours with CSOR and I can say this he has not worked with any memeber of JTF2 on any missions! CSOR is a UNIT made up of 4 squads 3 direct action and one support unit they do have to shave still and they do get to use silencers and other tech that reg infantry would not have access too. i would bet on a CSOR unit to take out a SEAL team due to its size , im sorry but a 8 man SEAL team is no match for 25-40 CSOR SPECIALISTS HOOOOWAAAAAAA
GREENMARINE420 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 Whatever we say, CSOR is still bad-ass.
HatakeStrife 11 months ago
@HatakeStrife The average Canadian soldier (calculated in training) is at US special forces standards,1 CF Soldier = 10 US Marines.
25Milimeter 1 year ago
@25Milimeter where are these calculations?
pxdfover 1 year ago
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Jitz666 1 year ago
MrJJackYT is Back His new name is HRMacQuacken
drfye 1 year ago
@MadamKouassi and i forgot to mention the JTF2 is new so they might not have alot of experience.
Peace
PcGamerPaul 1 year ago
@PcGamerPaul True and not true. The flaw with your statement is right there: "they're new, might not have alot of experience".
The SAS have been around for years and they have that experience. While JTF2 may copy what they do, they don't know why. The methods the SAS use are the tried and tested ones that are guaranteed to work, because they've tried every method known, and the ones they use work the best.
JTF2 are good, and they're brilliant soldiers, but the SAS still come out first. Peace.
MadamKouassi 1 year ago
@MadamKouassi I would respectfully disagree. Since they all train together, S.A.S., DELTA, JTF2. None would come out on top. They are equal. Im not trying to start anything. I just think its wrong to say that S.A.S. are a better SF unit just because they are older.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 I agree and disagree. They all have slightly different methods, some better in other fields than the rest.
But the SAS have the lowest failed mission count of ANY SF regiment.
Age means experience, and while many emerging special forces are adopting tried and tested methods and coming out as very well defined forces, they will never be able to fully compare to what the SAS bring to the table.
That's all I'm trying to say. But yes, your point makes sense. Peace, man. :)
MadamKouassi 1 year ago
@MadamKouassi For the most part, I agree. The SAS are the oldest special forces unit in the world, clearly that gives them the most experience. But to say that they are the best because of experience alone is not right. Not all of the SAS are old school veterans. They all have to start somewhere, and I would say that all NEW members of all special forces units in NATO are equaly skilled.
Peace
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 Yes, now I see what you mean. SAS have to begin somewhere as they still have new recruits coming in, so if that's the case and they can pick up the same skills, then so can other SF candidates.
I understand now. Yep, tis very true. :)
MadamKouassi 1 year ago
@GearHead1087
Out with the Old and in with the new.
in a international poll a university posted the top 5 special forces of the world. JTF2 was in the top 5, Delta and SAS were not. being a university the poll studied each countries special forces. training, language training, etc..I'm high...
HatakeStrife 1 year ago
@HatakeStrife I agree with you on that. I do believe JTF2 is one of the top most deadly SF units. I just dont like saying it too much because it makes people mad, and everyone starts arguing and saying that SAS or DELTA is the best. anyway, thanks for the comments
peace
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 hahaha people say delta and sas are best because thats all they see on there video games, any actual military member who has ever been involved with sf of any kind, knows what jtf2 is about, and all respect and bow
eltrugel 1 year ago
@eltrugel hmmm, i've never seen DELTA in a video game. I didnt say that they were the best in the world. I said they both are two of the best SF units in the world. I dont think anyone can argue that fact. I never said anything insulting about JTF2, I mean I made this video, and I also made a JTF2 video. I have nothing but respect for both CSOR and JTF2
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@eltrugel couldnt have said it better myself, people seem to forget the JTF2 are the ONLY SF that can be mixed in conbat with SAS or DF units, the US and British counterfolk Generals know what we are about, the real problem is the avg american has no clue.
MetaliCanuck 1 year ago
@eltrugel JTF2 is a Tier One SOU a.k.a. black ops.
SOL1TARYxIVIAN 1 year ago
@MadamKouassi its too bad your clueless when it comes to the past operations by the jtf2, they have been aside SAS throughout history, and thats the way the canadian government wants even its own people to believe
MetaliCanuck 1 year ago
@PcGamerPaul they are'nt that new and it would'nt matter if there new,they still recieve the same training as other special forces,and usually they recruit from within,they don't just pull people off the street and hand them a rifle.most guys have already had military training,and yes i know a bit because i have 2 friends that tried out for jtf but failed and they were really fit
rayoliver34 1 year ago
@rayoliver34 according to the government its impossible to get in to jtf unless you have at least a couple of years of military experience and even then you have to meet the extreme conditions then you go for try outs and something like less then 1% make it correct me if im wrong please
ironsaber2 1 year ago
@ironsaber2 yah they like to recruit from within.better to have someone with some training then none at all.i have 2 friends that tried to get in and failed.it's done on a point system.everything you do is worth points.my 1 friend failed by 1 point.both were very fit and smart.
rayoliver34 1 year ago
@ironsaber2 4 year of experience for jtf2 and then you go to like a spiecal training and they say that the magority make it in
treviesm3 1 year ago
@MadamKouassi Actually its fact that the Joint Task Force 2 and The Special Air Services training are simililar anything the SAS can do JTF2 can do.
A Canadian Soldier who has worked with the Brits and aussies
PcGamerPaul 1 year ago
Jtf2 is way more badass than delta or seals
onthewingshot 1 year ago
@onthewingshot Their all Tier One SOU a.k.a. black ops.
SOL1TARYxIVIAN 1 year ago
@onthewingshot Which seal? If you are implying to the 6 then no. Their all Tier One.
SOL1TARYxIVIAN 1 year ago
Good job brothers, I will see you soon.
Gravja 1 year ago
haha when i watch this i feel like im playing rainbow6 vegas2
Don123q 1 year ago
you know I like this, they have a place to do this things. is not like in my country when my dad lended the house to the army to stay, they started to film practices like kicking the doors and shit. how did we found out, thanks to the news, they were reporting their training. so my dad kicked them out of the house.
BioJoker47 1 year ago
whats the difference between jtf2 and csor witch one is more hardcore
pillarkutless777 1 year ago
@pillarkutless777 They are both hardcore. JTF2 is our elite SF, they are a small highly trained unit. They can be compared to US DELTA Force. CSOR is a much larger unit. They are very much like US Army Rangers. Just like Rangers support DELTA, CSOR supports JTF2. To answer your question, JTF2 is a more highly trained SF unit.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 I wouldn't compare the Rangers with CSOR. CSOR are definitely on a higher level than the Rangers.
illinfantry 1 year ago
@illinfantry and why would you think that??? Rangers are special forces. Unless you have been in both CSOR and US Army Rangers yourself, then you wouldnt know which one is on a higher level now would you? Show some respect to our American brothers. This isnt a competition, we're on the same side. There is a difference between being a patriot, and being a nationalist. You can love your country without disrespecting others.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 I wouldn't say that the rangers are spical forces, diffenitly elite, highly traind traind, but thats about it, an elite infontry unit. In Canadian army there is a coures you can take, and sometimes it even means going down and going through the rangeers training side by side with them. but in the end it does not mean you are specoal forces, you stell go home to your unit
8l1ndman 1 year ago
@8l1ndman Well the US military classifies them as Special forces, so thats good enough for me. Yes, Rangers are not as elite as for example DELTA force. But they play a supportive role to DELTA, just like CSOR does for JTF2. They are not the best of the best, but they are elite special forces
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 because we send regular ass infantry troops to go train with the rangers! BEEN THERE DONE that i didnt come back a SF member, trust me buddy. Besides the rangers make an anual training meet here in petawawa yearly for some fresh pointers with our instructors and brigades. The ranger are a really good infantry unit id fight alongside any day, but there no better then my local comrades in the Dragoons etc.
MetaliCanuck 1 year ago
@MetaliCanuck ok, if your actualy in the CF, i'll take your word for it. I just dont like it when people try and bash other countries military units.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@pillarkutless777 JTF 2 is way more hardcore. CSOR is a tier two unit to support JTF2.
uptownronnie 1 year ago
@uptownronnie
CSOR and JTF2 are different units with different skillsets. BOTH are "hardcore" but JTF2 are focussed on domestic ops rather than foreign, as JTF2 took the helm over from SERT. The CSOR selection is shorter for different reasons, but CSOR is no cop out. 9/10 times JTF2 wont take a CSOR operator on course because they each have different training methods and both units hammer them home to far to forget.
dekkard1221 1 year ago
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monumental777 1 year ago
@dekkard1221 There is a new regiment named Task Force Arrowhead.Canada's new quick-reaction force which will be set in 2011,composing of CSOR operatives and JTF2 assaulters .
SOL1TARYxIVIAN 1 year ago
@dekkard1221 from what i was told, i saw apresentation on jtf2 and csor at cflrs, and from what i got out of it jtf2 is not just for domestic but also does foregn ops, like hostge rescue
8l1ndman 8 months ago
It would be nice if i could find the videos of this with the actual commentating...cool vid though.
jeedo31 1 year ago
@jeedo31 It was originaly a documentary by the CBC. It was on youtube, but I think they removed it now. I cant seem to find it either.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
JTF2, Delta, SAS, KSK... They're all like top notch SF units. I think it'd be a straight out draw between any of them.
SAS has the most experience, and I think that IN MY OPINION, makes them the best special forces unit. Experience, and a long successful track record gives the SAS a superior edge. But still, they all kick so much ass. Go allied SF.
MadamKouassi 1 year ago
Canadian soldiers receive the longest basic instruction course, and ALL armed forces personnel are trained first as basic infantry, even in the air force or a naval mechanic. our boys could use that gear they were promised a little sooner though, at least they have the necessities of combat infantry. a rifle, a helmet, and training.
akropiss 1 year ago
hey i am currently placed at connaught sick!
oObrodieOo 1 year ago
lol which one of you toons in the PWOR put this vid together?
akula47 1 year ago
I made this video, but im not in PWOR. When I first saw the footage of them I was told it was CSOR, then someone in the regiment told me it wasnt, so I had to changed the name of the video.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@akula47 Regs were you? I never heard anyone else use the term "toons". It cracked me up.
cf80to01 1 year ago
just found 2 ex-JTF2 unmasked on the net yesterday. Thats not a prob.
Found a pic of 2 members unmasked that I believe were serving at the time. Very uncool. They are masked for a reason.
I will give links for the guys that left if you want-but not for the guys still serving.
I take PERSEC and OPSEC seriously!!
metalmom601 1 year ago
@metalmom601 Then why are you even saying anything, at all? ????
cplbaltzer1 1 year ago
@metalmom601 With respect please keep your mouth shut.
HatakeStrife 1 year ago
Great Vid on canadian forces
MooseTaco666 1 year ago
I can tell u guys something ull never find a REAL JTF or CSOR video on the net.
obeNNN 1 year ago
yeah, I think thats a given, seeing how they are special forces and all. btw its JTF2.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
There are "real" JTF2/CSOR videos available. There are "Army News" video's available.
cf80to01 1 year ago
Those videos show recruits trying out for JTF2 and CSOR. Recruitment is not the real thing.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 jtf2 and csor are diffrent u know.
XxtekiexX 1 year ago
@XxtekiexX I know. Who said they were the same??? They are very different. CSOR can be compared to US Army Rangers, and JTF2 is modeled after units like DELTA Force. CSOR supports JTF2, just like Rangers support DELTA
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 well i would like to see jtf2 and DELTA on deadlist warrior that would be cool
XxtekiexX 1 year ago
@XxtekiexX Omg, I completely agree!!! I love deadliest warrior. I just dont agree with alot of the matchups. Like when they put Green Berets against Spetsnaz. It should have been DELTA. but yeah, I hope they decide to do an episode with JTF2 one day. That would be awesome.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 i totally agree too, i suggested it but these guys from deadliest warrior are afraid to watch DELTA lose against JTF 2
jvmax100 1 year ago
@GearHead1087 well considering US, Canada, and even Britian have such great elite forces we are also very close allies and Canada is a kick ass country however we pretty much use what everyone else uses, and in Deadliest warrior they base everything on weapons, which is important but skill and training would be equal if not more important, not to mention JTF2 is a newer task force that the gov. tried to keep very hush hush, and have done a very good job at it, its hard to get any info about it.
Northernsharpshooter 1 year ago
@Northernsharpshooter I agree...I find Deadliest Warrior although entertaining (on the weaponry and such), it is pretty unrealistic, considering the way they determine the winning team.
SDN54 1 year ago
@SDN54 I as well find the weapons part interesting...i forgot bout this video so thanks for the reminder that its out there now I can lsiten to it again :)
Northernsharpshooter 1 year ago
@XxtekiexX MUCH rather see JTF 2 vs S.A.S.
ImpulseXproduction 1 year ago
@XxtekiexX That for sure won't happen for the following reasons:
1. They both do the EXACT same training and operation types, so it would be a draw
2. The Canadian & American government mostly deny anything about both of the unit's existence or anything related for security reasons.
3. They wouldn't have any info on the tactics they use for training or how many members are in each unit, again for security reasons.
As much as I would like to see that too, it is impossible.
SNeyePED 1 year ago
@SNeyePED Its not probable, but I wouldnt say impossible. They did Green Berets vs. Spetznaz before. The only reason why they wouldnt want to do JTF2 vs. DELTA, or S.A.S. is because we are close allies.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
my friend is in CSOR and just went back overseas again, hope everything goes well i should be going to bmq this may i hope
GREENMARINE420 1 year ago
what you sign up for?
MrNiagaraaaaaaaaaa 1 year ago
omg you were there?
MrNiagaraaaaaaaaaa 1 year ago
Wtf? How is this video bullshit? The title of the video is Canadian Forces and CSOR in action. Its not just CSOR, I made that clear. Read the discription. Please tell me exactly why you would call this video bullshit. I was told that it was CSOR at the beginning, but then someone told me it isnt, so I changed the title. I respect your service, but you have no right to say my video is bullshit.
GearHead1087 1 year ago
Says in the description, bud.
katato23 2 years ago
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MrNiagaraaaaaaaaaa 2 years ago
song name?
MrNiagaraaaaaaaaaa 2 years ago
omg the toons. the res need to stop looking like the regs. U and the rest will never be JTF2. Please with the copy
JaybobTorrents 2 years ago
you are a fucking goof
canadiandragoon 1 year ago
HOly shit I can't believe it ! I go to that range for cadets! lol and soon reserves
Aztec1011 2 years ago
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alrightttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!
patrickharb 2 years ago
Is there any part of the forces that don't do drill because as a cadet I HATE IT.JESUS standing there i always feel like passing out.I just wanna join JTF2 or CSOR.
game1208 2 years ago
You're an idiot. Drills are essential to perfecting dicipline and routine.
ChiLLzDude 2 years ago
@game1208 Well then your doing to have to suck it up and pass out or don't join. In order to join JTF2 or CSOR you have to do time in another trade prior to applying. Your choice.
ndvfdff33 2 years ago
If you can't handle that you have no chance...
TheVampyreCat 2 years ago
well there is drill in all parts of the cf
Blazethebest1 2 years ago
you want to join csor or jtf2? Well you better be able to pay the price of admission.
deltaecho1 2 years ago
@game1208 sorry shit out of luck
MetaliCanuck 1 year ago
just look at how well trained our RESERVE force is....really makes you wonder how hardcore those csor boys are...FUCKIN EH
ChiLLzDude 2 years ago
Go Canada
loog123456 2 years ago
None of this is BMQ there bud..? =S
maybe i didnt understand that last part..
ben12342666 2 years ago
I'm going to apply for the forces. Infantry is the last place I'll go in. I'm not that badass.
ILoveBears86 2 years ago 2
@ilovebears86 lol i was infantry for a year in the reserves, its a hard job. now im out of the forces and thinking of rejoining reg force and im reading at all the different trades but non appeal to me like infantry does, if you sign up for infantry, trust me. you'll grow to love it :]
best of luck.
ben12342666 2 years ago
I was thinking of Aviation Technician. Or the like, pretty much anything that has to do with working with the birds. Looking back on my life I think I was meant to join the military, there are many things about society that just doesn't make sense. I think it needs to function exactly like the military. Atleast if I get in my ideals of what should be will be a reality instead of a fantasy.
ILoveBears86 2 years ago
@ILoveBears86 yeah i wanted to re-join as an avtech but knowing my one year experience in the infantry, i dont think id be able to do any other trade :P
ben12342666 2 years ago
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MrNiagaraaaaaaaaaa 2 years ago