IrminC I appoligize on behalf of Canadians for her stupid remarks, most of these people are actually americans living in Canada but really if you do believe that america is the greatest nation why would you not want to live there? and live in a bit cold country like Canada?
The argument is complete nonsense. Let's do the math, shall we.
250k @ (Current tax rate = 35%) = 88k
With Obama @ 39% = 98k
This means you pay 10k more. Not exactly a cause to fire someone, lower productivity and lose hundreds of thousands in contracts. There has always been different tax brackets for different levels of income This is not socialism., just a new way of restructuring the tax brackets. Socialism my foot!
Well the monthly breakdown is around 833. If the choice is have employee x or a extra capital for a cushion in case the business or owner needs the capital then the business owner is likely going to go without hiring or maybe even firing someone to save that extra 10k. It is socialism when the govt takes 10k and redistributes it to people who don't pay property taxes in the first place. Limited government produces jobs. Expanded government produces the well fare/nanny state.
I think people are often forgetting the fact that Obama's plan also taxes corporations starting at $200K not $250K. So, if you're earning $250K from your small company, your corporation is likely earning $200K. Thus, your corporation is taxed as well as yourself with the government earning a total of 70%. Not exactly fair. If you're paying a few middle-class salaries, they're taxed at 25% as well. Government is then earning 95% and giving that money away to the bottom 33% who don't pay anything.
Stephen Moore, the other guest, started a group called Club For Growth, which ran misleading attack ads against Huckabee during his run, accusing him of wanting to raise taxes. Huckabee then invited him on this show to mislead people about Obama's tax plan. Joe the Plumber made $40,000 last year according to public records. He will receive a large tax cut under Obama. Huckabee realized Moore's skill in manipulating ignorant people and thought he'd be the perfect guest for his show.
As a Canadian, who is now an American, I can assure you that the Canadian lady is in the minority in Canada - which is why I was glad to get out. I came to the U.S. because I want to be an American. You were born here, and I am sure would rather be something else. I voted with my feet, why don't you vote with your feet - and don't let the door hit you in the butt.
I hope all the digging into Joe's past by the lefty blogs helps Joe out instead of crushing him like they had planned. I guess that's what you get for asking any REAL tough questions of Obama. He chose to answer the question that way. No one forced him to have socialist views. Everyone's just upset because he was forced to explain why he wants to punish people for hard work and reward those who haven't worked as hard.
I have no doubt Joe will be getting lots of job offers once the election settles down. After all, how many future employees to you get to vet like the media have vetted Joe. And what did we learn, Joe really is just your average, blue collar guy trying to get ahead. I'm sure many are shocked at how the liberal left wing Dems and media are quite happy to attack and destroy him. Liberals are the meanest, nastiest people on the planet. They are all talk and no walk.
Add hypocritical to the list. My brother-in-law is 25 yrs old & a tree-hugging lib. He attended a community college where his parents & him were to pay a 3rd of the expenses. He defaulted on his loan and Mommy footed the bill after he dropped out 6mos before graduating. He now hitchikes across the country spreading free love and peace-rarely showers. He collects welfare because "they owe it to me" and mommy still pays his health insurance. If he works its under the table so he doesn't pay taxes.
Just contrast the charitable contributions that Michelle and Barry make, with Michelle's taste in hotel snacks - lobster tails and caviar. Liberals care so much about the unfortunate, that they are willing go give them the shirt off YOUR back, not their back, YOUR back.
IrminC I appoligize on behalf of Canadians for her stupid remarks, most of these people are actually americans living in Canada but really if you do believe that america is the greatest nation why would you not want to live there? and live in a bit cold country like Canada?
shahpooor 2 years ago
Are all Canadians that fucking stupid???
IrminC 2 years ago
Well, yes, they are ...they legalized gay marriage, so they showed proof that they are THAT stupid, yes...
divine137 2 years ago
Ok.
IrminC 2 years ago
Is he the prez of his local KKK.
Bababooey
HowardSternn 2 years ago
spread the wealth means
no monopoly like Big OIL
no overpaid CEOs like the DETROIT BIG3 who makes $16M salary driving the company on a cliff
no wallstreet scums like Madoff
no overpaid banking CEOs wasting 800B bailout bush gave out
we have democratic equality but not
ECONOMIC equality as big business have our necks
emforty2 2 years ago
walmar should hire joe as a greeter! He'll like the attention and make money and maybe pay off the taxes he owes...die already!
ektorhugo 3 years ago
$250k business operator buying baloney ... i feel so sorry for those poor guys lol
nilsca 3 years ago
The argument is complete nonsense. Let's do the math, shall we.
250k @ (Current tax rate = 35%) = 88k
With Obama @ 39% = 98k
This means you pay 10k more. Not exactly a cause to fire someone, lower productivity and lose hundreds of thousands in contracts. There has always been different tax brackets for different levels of income This is not socialism., just a new way of restructuring the tax brackets. Socialism my foot!
clevercara 3 years ago
Well the monthly breakdown is around 833. If the choice is have employee x or a extra capital for a cushion in case the business or owner needs the capital then the business owner is likely going to go without hiring or maybe even firing someone to save that extra 10k. It is socialism when the govt takes 10k and redistributes it to people who don't pay property taxes in the first place. Limited government produces jobs. Expanded government produces the well fare/nanny state.
willisadair 3 years ago
I think people are often forgetting the fact that Obama's plan also taxes corporations starting at $200K not $250K. So, if you're earning $250K from your small company, your corporation is likely earning $200K. Thus, your corporation is taxed as well as yourself with the government earning a total of 70%. Not exactly fair. If you're paying a few middle-class salaries, they're taxed at 25% as well. Government is then earning 95% and giving that money away to the bottom 33% who don't pay anything.
fastrivers 3 years ago
Joe represents America - Obama DOES NOT
samus4448 3 years ago
Stephen Moore, the other guest, started a group called Club For Growth, which ran misleading attack ads against Huckabee during his run, accusing him of wanting to raise taxes. Huckabee then invited him on this show to mislead people about Obama's tax plan. Joe the Plumber made $40,000 last year according to public records. He will receive a large tax cut under Obama. Huckabee realized Moore's skill in manipulating ignorant people and thought he'd be the perfect guest for his show.
JoahKingKong 3 years ago
deuce
JoahKingKong 3 years ago
At leasr Huckabee didn/t call the guy "Joe the plumber."
Tobiason1 3 years ago
great show, needs more liberal guests because Huckabee excels at respectful debate.
chukmaty 3 years ago
What a question from that lady!
angelmusa11 3 years ago 2
are you freakin crazy!!!
that woman must live between 2 igloos on the arctic circle.how ignorant can someone be to say something like that AT THIS POINT!!!!
what country have we freed??
oh dear!! and there is huckabee suggesting honorary citizenship!!
thank god for the impending democrat landslide.
keep your stooge of a 'plumber'...i bet you he will love his paychecks once obama's tax plan kicks in.
angangaus 3 years ago
As a Canadian, who is now an American, I can assure you that the Canadian lady is in the minority in Canada - which is why I was glad to get out. I came to the U.S. because I want to be an American. You were born here, and I am sure would rather be something else. I voted with my feet, why don't you vote with your feet - and don't let the door hit you in the butt.
barneyrl 3 years ago
I hope all the digging into Joe's past by the lefty blogs helps Joe out instead of crushing him like they had planned. I guess that's what you get for asking any REAL tough questions of Obama. He chose to answer the question that way. No one forced him to have socialist views. Everyone's just upset because he was forced to explain why he wants to punish people for hard work and reward those who haven't worked as hard.
rsemerick 3 years ago
I have no doubt Joe will be getting lots of job offers once the election settles down. After all, how many future employees to you get to vet like the media have vetted Joe. And what did we learn, Joe really is just your average, blue collar guy trying to get ahead. I'm sure many are shocked at how the liberal left wing Dems and media are quite happy to attack and destroy him. Liberals are the meanest, nastiest people on the planet. They are all talk and no walk.
barneyrl 3 years ago 2
Add hypocritical to the list. My brother-in-law is 25 yrs old & a tree-hugging lib. He attended a community college where his parents & him were to pay a 3rd of the expenses. He defaulted on his loan and Mommy footed the bill after he dropped out 6mos before graduating. He now hitchikes across the country spreading free love and peace-rarely showers. He collects welfare because "they owe it to me" and mommy still pays his health insurance. If he works its under the table so he doesn't pay taxes.
fastrivers 3 years ago
Just contrast the charitable contributions that Michelle and Barry make, with Michelle's taste in hotel snacks - lobster tails and caviar. Liberals care so much about the unfortunate, that they are willing go give them the shirt off YOUR back, not their back, YOUR back.
barneyrl 3 years ago