i feel no one deserves to know but then again i don't care either. i think i'm a sociopath and the secret is that some do feel shallow emotions for everybody. my condition is that i feel strong emotions for a few people in my circle but the rest are just like objects. its weird its like no emotion or strong emotion any help? not that i care
@branby1994 The key to knowing if you may be or not is if you are able to experience empathy. If a person you don't know were to fall down a set of stairs in front of you and hurt themselves, do you care, or are you more likely thinking it was lucky they didn't run into you when they fell? If you can empathize with some people then you probably aren't a sociopath. If you don't feel concerned about others and you think people are usually "faking concern" then you probably are.
A human who openly chats about personal experience on being a sociopath is either a psychologically challenged sociopath, with a low IQ, or not much of an individual. Prob reads too much Poppy Z Brite. Intelligent socio's will never resort to sharing their REAL mask, a mask that can never be purchased or worn by empaths. Although they will share their false self. Anarchists and criminal minds are quite funny in their poor attempt at challenging and seeking the publics fear. Socio's seek nothing.
My grandmother is one of these and she doesn't understand right or wrong. It's like she is trying to manipulate you on the spot as if words are just a means to get what they want. They just repaint themselves again and again to narrow down a control over people. They're not evil geniuses, they're not even concious, they're just feeling around in the dark to establish control over people.
Try, fail, try again, fail, try again... they don't care, remember? they're not concious people
@Redflowers9 The last part is spot on. Not learning from their mistakes and to keep trying the same thing over and over again looking for a different result, it's the definition of psychotic.
@Redflowers9 I understand how you feel. I'm not a psychatrist but, how my mom acts towards certain things my gives off the feel of a sociopath. From the stories my dad has told me in her past (my dad's not lying I have more than him to back me up) just let you understand what she's likeShe's basically made my dad's life a living hell.
@Gasparro18 Christ... it's sort of become a hobby of mine to understand psychopaths. These are great links: /watch?v=qm1S_n0V5kk, /watch?v=u88lYs4FMTY, Jon Ronson: How to spot a psychopath - book .
I think egoism is a great way to look at it; we're all selfish but most of us gain happiness from benefitting others.
You know when you feel a little low? My grandmother looks at you as if she's genuinely interested as to why; not typical old lady. Clue: imagine being an object when talking to one.
@Redflowers9 Yeah, that's the bad thing I won't lie I selfish side but, I don't think I could deal with sociopaths. I know its not their fault but, the shit they do and say pisses me off like it would anybody else. Well, yeah I hear you and that's what they view as an object. I see a lot of ASPD in my old buddy too. It's like he's on a mission or something to be the best at everything without caring how he did it.
My opinion... sociopaths do know the difference between right and wrong.. they just do not care. The "risk taking" drive is also another factor. Sociopaths love being above the law. If they can out wit a cop... it feeds them. Anyway that's my take on it. Oh by the way... I'm a sociopath. Ha ha ha ha ha.
I learned to shut off my emotions years ago as a child, to survive the abuse my parents gave me, when I brought home poor grades, my father would put rolled up tubes of paper on my fingers, and light them,
if I cried out or showed weakness, before he thought I suffered enough, I would be put in an old outhouse
in the backyard, that had nails hammered from the outside in, that stopped you from leaning or resting, and you would have to stand for hours in the stench.
@Thrashvel .... You have misunderstood what I have commented on about sociopaths. Have you even taken basic psychology? I think not. Think before you speak.
@Thrashvel Main thing... I just want the answer to sociopaths!!! The whole 9 yards. I don't know everything. I've been reading and reading.. I just can't come up with anything legit. Everyone acts and behaves a different way.
Same back to ya... I didn't mean to be so belligerent.
@MsColdCanada That's cool. I took some psychology courses in college. Passed them all with "A" averages. However, my instructors and professors couldn't give me a precise definition or even remotely close about a sociopath. I think it's too broad of a word/subject. I think it's too complicated to explain logically. What you mentioned below in that scenario is basically a sign or symptom. Just one of many. It is one I have already heard. If someone falls, you laugh, yeah I've heard that already.
It tends to get jumbled up with Narcissists and Psychopaths. A sociopath could be one of those other categories also but they can also be pretty productive law-abiding people who just don't have the capacity to feel for others the way most do. I guess it's like all people who become suicidal have depression but not all people with depression commit suicide. To note a sociopath would never commit suicide they can't really experience major depression.
@MrHoover77 I'm taking psychology right now and I actually found out I'm pretty good at it.But, anyways a sociopath is someone who experiences no guilt or remorse, their reckless, and they put their lives and others in danger. They often get into trouble and go to jail.
@MrHoover77 Yes I did. I passed the class with an "A"!!! Call it bullshit or whatever. I'm just saying that while taking Psychology 200, passing the class with an "A", my instructor that has a masters degree in psychology could not give me a precise definition of a sociopath or psychopath. So I take it you know more??? Pffffft! Don't fool yourself. Now I'm questioning your certainty about you far exceeding the basics of psychology! Think before you speak!
I know when a person is "good for me," but I can't connect with him or her, etc.), and that when it is severe enough that it cannot be "cured" psychiatrists have it all wrong, dumping us as uncooperative and untreatable. There are ways to function with this, should motivation be proffered in diverse modalities than the broken one. We don't have to be like them. We are not wired to be like them. That's neither our fault, nor something to be changed.
As part of expanding my research, I'd love it if you lot could message me. I also believe that a "cure" is not what we should be pursuing, but an "adaption." As with agnosia, which psychopathy seems to be a type of, in that it is fueled by a root: the inability to integrate certain knowledge with emotion (you can shock me, but you can't scare me. I don't want to die, but I have no automatic physical reaction to having a gun held to my head.
He was spot on up until he got to 0:16 then it was behaviorist bullshit, but then it gets more accurate at 0:20 :)
Sociopathy is a misunderstood disorder. We generally do have addictive personalities (often not related to drug use btw) but risk taking behavior is more of a psychopath trait, though in the west we have intentionally bled the two together under the antisocial checklist so that it's easier to get people on medications they don't need.
rofl. stereotype sociopath. there are sociopaths that are just trying to social engineer their shit into things, because otherwise they'd have limited opportunites. maybe they're not so sociable. they would be outcasts.. and it doesn't mean they had an agenda either, besides succeeding.
@ZMorpheus Most sociopaths can be social butterflies if we need to be, and as for opportunities, bro look to the top of any corporation, bank, or successful capitalist business and you'll find sociopaths.
@Laughingblades yes, sociopath is a vague term. pretty much the people who run this world are. politicians, leaders, executives.. etc.. pretty much everyone who might have a secret, they usually do... not always malicious. but still.. but the stereotype of automatically associating it with malice is BS. there's good and bad in regular people. why not sociopaths.. it's more the psychopaths who usually have a dark side to their behaviour. sociopaths are generally mentioned with them but different.
@ZMorpheus Yeah, most sociopaths are never violent, and most of us outgrow antisocial tendencies as we learn to better function in society. I think most sociopaths at the top of businesses are more predatory than most of us though, but we certainly all a bunch of serial killers. I like to point out that the most horrific crimes throughout history have all been done by empaths, often by frenzied mobs of people convinced that they were righteous, normal people are very selective with their empathy
@SculptedThoughts Yeah I agree, a bunch of empaths guessing at the limits of our cognitive abilities and judging by behavioral symptoms which aren't universal and can often be out grown, I'm convinced that half the people in the field are just in it for the money though, the way they want to lump everyone from Narcissists to Aspies into the antisocial camp seems like an excuse to medicate and 'treat' people.
@Laughingblades I specialize in psychopaths, just because of my own diagnosis, and because it's a means of understanding myself better in the process. It's important to differentiate in between psychology and philosophy - the actual mechanics of the brain, because I could cite countless abnormalities present in my brain and in those like me - and the thought process and personal beliefs which incite action. Unfortunately, much of the diagnosis for this "disorder"/variance focuses on the outward
@SculptedThoughts Yep, a bunch of behaviorist nonsense that could often apply just as easily to any empath you pulled off the street, but gets specially applied to us.
@SculptedThoughts I was diagnosed in my early twenties after a bit of a run in with the law, I used to be a bit of a social predator but I grew out of it, I'm 31 now but I don't go around divulging my current location on the internet :3
@Laughingblades I used to be really bad in my earlier years, too. Court mandated therapy, correctional facilities. I've grown some self-control for the big stuff with experience. Nothing as organized, planned out, pre-decided.
Understood about location. I guess I asked because I was surprised by all of the comments on this video that I agree with. It's rare that I'll find psychopaths/sociopaths who are outspoken about such a serious flaw in psychiatry,
@SculptedThoughts I think the internet provides us a forum to be ourselves and not wear masks like we normally have to do in public, and I think that apart from the wannabes and over medicated neurotypicals, there are also a lot of people recognizing that they have the symptoms who otherwise wouldn't.
I wonder how many of us are out there who just never cause any problems and go completely unnoticed. I'd be willing to wager it's one of the most under diagnosed conditions in the world.
A sociopath is not a accident of birth. It's not genetic or, chemical imbalance in the brain. It's more of a spiritual nature. A mindset cultivated and enabled by actions or, lack of action in the home, the community. Look at the home, look at the schools and, the things that we (by deed or delinquince) teach our children. These types of maladies are bred in the absence of Truth. When we deny God, we will reap what we sow.
@apemanblunder In my case it's genetic and runs in the family, and I don't believe in spirits bro. When I was a baby I didn't cry and hated being held, that's normally a pretty good sign that you're either getting a sociopath or some sort of autistic kid. We're really misunderstood though, the ones who turn out wrong often turn out wrong because society teaches us nothing of how to be moral without your emotional short cuts.
You can pray to your invisible friend all you want though.
@Playwithfireflies This is a clip from the movie "The Deliberate Stranger". The guy is Mark Harmon acting as serial killer Ted Bundy. It's a good movie!!!
@TheTrollxWARRIOR heh, my situation is rather..."unique" See, I was born with a human heart, you could say. But to put it in simple terms, literally everyone in my life kept stabbing me in the back. Oh, and negative reenforcement out the ass. At one point, I realized I had lost my sense of guilt, sympathy, empathy, love, shame, etc.
i feel no one deserves to know but then again i don't care either. i think i'm a sociopath and the secret is that some do feel shallow emotions for everybody. my condition is that i feel strong emotions for a few people in my circle but the rest are just like objects. its weird its like no emotion or strong emotion any help? not that i care
branby1994 1 month ago
@branby1994 The key to knowing if you may be or not is if you are able to experience empathy. If a person you don't know were to fall down a set of stairs in front of you and hurt themselves, do you care, or are you more likely thinking it was lucky they didn't run into you when they fell? If you can empathize with some people then you probably aren't a sociopath. If you don't feel concerned about others and you think people are usually "faking concern" then you probably are.
MsColdCanada 3 weeks ago
A human who openly chats about personal experience on being a sociopath is either a psychologically challenged sociopath, with a low IQ, or not much of an individual. Prob reads too much Poppy Z Brite. Intelligent socio's will never resort to sharing their REAL mask, a mask that can never be purchased or worn by empaths. Although they will share their false self. Anarchists and criminal minds are quite funny in their poor attempt at challenging and seeking the publics fear. Socio's seek nothing.
loverundercover100 2 months ago
@loverundercover100 unless they seek to be exposed and force themselves out of a habit... rare but .. hey
my4thone 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
there are lots of them out on the streets, they all wear sports clothes and babble like apes...
dljc1979 2 months ago
My grandmother is one of these and she doesn't understand right or wrong. It's like she is trying to manipulate you on the spot as if words are just a means to get what they want. They just repaint themselves again and again to narrow down a control over people. They're not evil geniuses, they're not even concious, they're just feeling around in the dark to establish control over people.
Try, fail, try again, fail, try again... they don't care, remember? they're not concious people
Redflowers9 3 months ago
@Redflowers9 The last part is spot on. Not learning from their mistakes and to keep trying the same thing over and over again looking for a different result, it's the definition of psychotic.
Thrashvel 1 month ago
@Redflowers9 I understand how you feel. I'm not a psychatrist but, how my mom acts towards certain things my gives off the feel of a sociopath. From the stories my dad has told me in her past (my dad's not lying I have more than him to back me up) just let you understand what she's likeShe's basically made my dad's life a living hell.
Gasparro18 1 week ago
@Gasparro18 Christ... it's sort of become a hobby of mine to understand psychopaths. These are great links: /watch?v=qm1S_n0V5kk, /watch?v=u88lYs4FMTY, Jon Ronson: How to spot a psychopath - book .
I think egoism is a great way to look at it; we're all selfish but most of us gain happiness from benefitting others.
You know when you feel a little low? My grandmother looks at you as if she's genuinely interested as to why; not typical old lady. Clue: imagine being an object when talking to one.
Redflowers9 1 week ago
@Redflowers9 Yeah, that's the bad thing I won't lie I selfish side but, I don't think I could deal with sociopaths. I know its not their fault but, the shit they do and say pisses me off like it would anybody else. Well, yeah I hear you and that's what they view as an object. I see a lot of ASPD in my old buddy too. It's like he's on a mission or something to be the best at everything without caring how he did it.
Gasparro18 1 week ago
My opinion... sociopaths do know the difference between right and wrong.. they just do not care. The "risk taking" drive is also another factor. Sociopaths love being above the law. If they can out wit a cop... it feeds them. Anyway that's my take on it. Oh by the way... I'm a sociopath. Ha ha ha ha ha.
MrHoover77 3 months ago
I learned to shut off my emotions years ago as a child, to survive the abuse my parents gave me, when I brought home poor grades, my father would put rolled up tubes of paper on my fingers, and light them,
if I cried out or showed weakness, before he thought I suffered enough, I would be put in an old outhouse
in the backyard, that had nails hammered from the outside in, that stopped you from leaning or resting, and you would have to stand for hours in the stench.
federalwarhawk 3 months ago
@MrHoover77 It's ALL about ego. And boredom because they don't have any friends. They're glib and without depth of any kind. But their ego is HUGE.
wingituk 3 months ago
@MrHoover77 A sociopath wouldn't put this label on themselves. You obviously don't understand in depth how they think.
Thrashvel 1 month ago
@Thrashvel .... You have misunderstood what I have commented on about sociopaths. Have you even taken basic psychology? I think not. Think before you speak.
MrHoover77 1 month ago
@MrHoover77 I think you're the one with the misunderstanding. My knowledge far exceeds "basic psychology" don't be a hypocrite.
Thrashvel 1 month ago
@Thrashvel My comment must have bothered you that bad. Get over it or die worrying about it! You aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
MrHoover77 1 month ago
@MrHoover77 I'm sorry if I insulted your intelligence, there was a misunderstanding and I was wrong.
Thrashvel 1 month ago
@Thrashvel Main thing... I just want the answer to sociopaths!!! The whole 9 yards. I don't know everything. I've been reading and reading.. I just can't come up with anything legit. Everyone acts and behaves a different way.
Same back to ya... I didn't mean to be so belligerent.
MrHoover77 3 weeks ago
@MrHoover77 My answer to branby might help you out. If not I'll try to explain in more detail.
MsColdCanada 3 weeks ago
@MsColdCanada That's cool. I took some psychology courses in college. Passed them all with "A" averages. However, my instructors and professors couldn't give me a precise definition or even remotely close about a sociopath. I think it's too broad of a word/subject. I think it's too complicated to explain logically. What you mentioned below in that scenario is basically a sign or symptom. Just one of many. It is one I have already heard. If someone falls, you laugh, yeah I've heard that already.
MrHoover77 2 weeks ago
It tends to get jumbled up with Narcissists and Psychopaths. A sociopath could be one of those other categories also but they can also be pretty productive law-abiding people who just don't have the capacity to feel for others the way most do. I guess it's like all people who become suicidal have depression but not all people with depression commit suicide. To note a sociopath would never commit suicide they can't really experience major depression.
MsColdCanada 2 weeks ago
@MrHoover77 I'm taking psychology right now and I actually found out I'm pretty good at it.But, anyways a sociopath is someone who experiences no guilt or remorse, their reckless, and they put their lives and others in danger. They often get into trouble and go to jail.
Gasparro18 1 week ago
@MrHoover77 Yes I did. I passed the class with an "A"!!! Call it bullshit or whatever. I'm just saying that while taking Psychology 200, passing the class with an "A", my instructor that has a masters degree in psychology could not give me a precise definition of a sociopath or psychopath. So I take it you know more??? Pffffft! Don't fool yourself. Now I'm questioning your certainty about you far exceeding the basics of psychology! Think before you speak!
MrHoover77 1 month ago
Excellent.
DoNotCiv 3 months ago
and, at some point, I'm going to seek to meet in person (not with you in particular since you object, but with those like you).
I'd love to stay in contact with you online, however. I might have ideas to bounce.
SculptedThoughts 3 months ago
I know when a person is "good for me," but I can't connect with him or her, etc.), and that when it is severe enough that it cannot be "cured" psychiatrists have it all wrong, dumping us as uncooperative and untreatable. There are ways to function with this, should motivation be proffered in diverse modalities than the broken one. We don't have to be like them. We are not wired to be like them. That's neither our fault, nor something to be changed.
SculptedThoughts 3 months ago
As part of expanding my research, I'd love it if you lot could message me. I also believe that a "cure" is not what we should be pursuing, but an "adaption." As with agnosia, which psychopathy seems to be a type of, in that it is fueled by a root: the inability to integrate certain knowledge with emotion (you can shock me, but you can't scare me. I don't want to die, but I have no automatic physical reaction to having a gun held to my head.
SculptedThoughts 3 months ago
He was spot on up until he got to 0:16 then it was behaviorist bullshit, but then it gets more accurate at 0:20 :)
Sociopathy is a misunderstood disorder. We generally do have addictive personalities (often not related to drug use btw) but risk taking behavior is more of a psychopath trait, though in the west we have intentionally bled the two together under the antisocial checklist so that it's easier to get people on medications they don't need.
We aren't all bad btw.
Laughingblades 4 months ago
rofl. stereotype sociopath. there are sociopaths that are just trying to social engineer their shit into things, because otherwise they'd have limited opportunites. maybe they're not so sociable. they would be outcasts.. and it doesn't mean they had an agenda either, besides succeeding.
ZMorpheus 4 months ago
@ZMorpheus Most sociopaths can be social butterflies if we need to be, and as for opportunities, bro look to the top of any corporation, bank, or successful capitalist business and you'll find sociopaths.
Laughingblades 4 months ago
@Laughingblades yes, sociopath is a vague term. pretty much the people who run this world are. politicians, leaders, executives.. etc.. pretty much everyone who might have a secret, they usually do... not always malicious. but still.. but the stereotype of automatically associating it with malice is BS. there's good and bad in regular people. why not sociopaths.. it's more the psychopaths who usually have a dark side to their behaviour. sociopaths are generally mentioned with them but different.
ZMorpheus 3 months ago
@ZMorpheus Yeah, most sociopaths are never violent, and most of us outgrow antisocial tendencies as we learn to better function in society. I think most sociopaths at the top of businesses are more predatory than most of us though, but we certainly all a bunch of serial killers. I like to point out that the most horrific crimes throughout history have all been done by empaths, often by frenzied mobs of people convinced that they were righteous, normal people are very selective with their empathy
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades Yes, we are not actually as sadistic and violent as most people would like to think.
EcnelOvelam 3 months ago
@Laughingblades I'm diagnosed, and also very interested in neuroscience. The field doesn't know crap when it comes to psychopathy/sociopathy/aspd.
SculptedThoughts 3 months ago
@SculptedThoughts Yeah I agree, a bunch of empaths guessing at the limits of our cognitive abilities and judging by behavioral symptoms which aren't universal and can often be out grown, I'm convinced that half the people in the field are just in it for the money though, the way they want to lump everyone from Narcissists to Aspies into the antisocial camp seems like an excuse to medicate and 'treat' people.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades I specialize in psychopaths, just because of my own diagnosis, and because it's a means of understanding myself better in the process. It's important to differentiate in between psychology and philosophy - the actual mechanics of the brain, because I could cite countless abnormalities present in my brain and in those like me - and the thought process and personal beliefs which incite action. Unfortunately, much of the diagnosis for this "disorder"/variance focuses on the outward
SculptedThoughts 3 months ago
actions, rather than the psychology - the true source of it all.
SculptedThoughts 3 months ago
@SculptedThoughts Yep, a bunch of behaviorist nonsense that could often apply just as easily to any empath you pulled off the street, but gets specially applied to us.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades Have you been evaluated professionally?
How old are you, and in what state do you currently reside (assuming USA)?
SculptedThoughts 3 months ago
@SculptedThoughts I was diagnosed in my early twenties after a bit of a run in with the law, I used to be a bit of a social predator but I grew out of it, I'm 31 now but I don't go around divulging my current location on the internet :3
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades I used to be really bad in my earlier years, too. Court mandated therapy, correctional facilities. I've grown some self-control for the big stuff with experience. Nothing as organized, planned out, pre-decided.
Understood about location. I guess I asked because I was surprised by all of the comments on this video that I agree with. It's rare that I'll find psychopaths/sociopaths who are outspoken about such a serious flaw in psychiatry,
SculptedThoughts 3 months ago
@SculptedThoughts I think the internet provides us a forum to be ourselves and not wear masks like we normally have to do in public, and I think that apart from the wannabes and over medicated neurotypicals, there are also a lot of people recognizing that they have the symptoms who otherwise wouldn't.
I wonder how many of us are out there who just never cause any problems and go completely unnoticed. I'd be willing to wager it's one of the most under diagnosed conditions in the world.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
A sociopath is not a accident of birth. It's not genetic or, chemical imbalance in the brain. It's more of a spiritual nature. A mindset cultivated and enabled by actions or, lack of action in the home, the community. Look at the home, look at the schools and, the things that we (by deed or delinquince) teach our children. These types of maladies are bred in the absence of Truth. When we deny God, we will reap what we sow.
apemanblunder 4 months ago
@apemanblunder In my case it's genetic and runs in the family, and I don't believe in spirits bro. When I was a baby I didn't cry and hated being held, that's normally a pretty good sign that you're either getting a sociopath or some sort of autistic kid. We're really misunderstood though, the ones who turn out wrong often turn out wrong because society teaches us nothing of how to be moral without your emotional short cuts.
You can pray to your invisible friend all you want though.
Laughingblades 4 months ago
What is this from? It looks like it's from a movie.
Playwithfireflies 4 months ago
@Playwithfireflies It's from a movie about Ted Bundy. The actor is playing Bundy.
Iamnutsy 4 months ago
@Playwithfireflies This is a clip from the movie "The Deliberate Stranger". The guy is Mark Harmon acting as serial killer Ted Bundy. It's a good movie!!!
MrHoover77 3 months ago 2
@MrHoover77 Thanks!
Playwithfireflies 3 months ago
@TheTrollxWARRIOR heh, my situation is rather..."unique" See, I was born with a human heart, you could say. But to put it in simple terms, literally everyone in my life kept stabbing me in the back. Oh, and negative reenforcement out the ass. At one point, I realized I had lost my sense of guilt, sympathy, empathy, love, shame, etc.
knives4cash 5 months ago
@TheTrollxWARRIOR in that case, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT!!! But I do the "right" thing to avoid punishment.
knives4cash 5 months ago
Eh.
Kinda, kinda not. It varries from person to person.
MnemonicHack 5 months ago
Huh, that's a pretty accurate description, but I do have a sense of right and wrong.
knives4cash 5 months ago