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  • PR... you were a bit too harsh :-|

  • Yeah try and take a drive my car and see how you feel in it.

    You can feel it just running from 20 feet away. And it's an old ass 1968.

  • I agree that monetary gains should not have a say in the question of the morality of an action, but they should have a factor in deciding on legislation. Sometimes the most moral actions are not necessarily the actions that we should be following.

  • People who can not change their minds are terribly frusterating; I pity sincerely, those people whose immidiate family are like that.

    While I don't like cars, I do like this video's message. Good job Greg. *thumbs up*

  • I gave up completely on Tim a while back. His ignorance knows no bounds and my nine-year-old could debate him into the ground. Now I won't even acknowledge him.

  • Jesus says "the one without sin throw the first stone"

    A large rock slams into the women.

    Jesus turns around and says "Mum! Will you stop that!"

  • @itsdodge ahhahaahahhahaahhahahahaah  That made me laugh hard.

  • @itsdodge And a three-hundred pounds stone fell down from the sky on the poor woman crushing her under its sheer weight.

    Jesus looked up and said "Dad !"

    God answered "What ? You said the one without sin throw the first stone, you never said anything about the second one.".

  • hey, you have a book about Mao.... you evil commie bastard!!!! lol i'm joking, you are awesome.

  • At first I thought I was watching an ad for a Ferrari, before I realised it was the actual video.

  • in his video response he has a comment that says homosexuality is no longer punishable by death but in the video he quotes jesus when jesus says that the law is still valid. amazing how contradictory christians can be

  • my friend told me the other day that he thinks stoning children for being disobedient is good, i told him he was fucking insane

  • @wearestarstuffsagan Hope he doesn't have kids.

  • @ProportionalResponse ha seriously though

  • Doesn’t the engine compartment have gold lining and the car comes with its own tool kit? Is it also a three seated? with the driver in the center just a bit forward of the two other seats? I also heard they only make around three hundred a year?

    I have heard that the death penilty is more money in the end after all the appeals?

    I had a boyfriend that I broke up with because he would drive ten Km under all the time he had a Charger

    Cheers Christine

  • @christinepeace You are thinking of the McLaren F1. All is true of the F1, except there were only 160 ever made. It took 3 months to make one. The Lamborgini Countach was produced at a rate of 3 per week. In the US, putting someone on death row, and executing that person costs more than it takes to keep them in prison for life, on average.

  • @ProportionalResponse ** It TAKES 3 months to make one. ***

  • i agree with your position on the chargers of youtube.  its one of the reasons i have had no video making ambition all year. i hope the move i am about to do will change that

    and where did the underwear on head tag come from?

  • @SkeptikSnarf It came from TheLizardLass. My "secret" internet crush.

  • Of course the real punishment isn't just death, but death followed with eternal torture.

  • What made you change your position from being in favour of the death penalty and your current position?

  • @dprjones 1) Life is the most valuable thing I can think of. 2) I can't think of a way to make sure an innocent man would lose his life due to a wrongful conviction. In fact, it has happened. Thus: Since there is no way to make sure that we would never kill an innocent man (taking away the most important thing from him, wrongly) then I can't agree that removing the life from guilty men is worth the cost. I know it isn't the most common reason.

  • @ProportionalResponse At least Christians have moral code that is not just based on personal preferences like Atheists do.

    Shouldn't all Christians follow all the teachings of the Bible they say they believe in?

    I'm asking you a question to see if you can answer it?

    Assume the Bible is true, can you answer the question? Did Jesus Abolish The Law?

  • Nice underwear

  • @TokyoPink08 Perv

  • What’s the punishment for how those cars make me feel?

    Adultery= death. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are Screwed. They consider looking upon a person that is not your spouse in a lustful way as committing adultery in ones heart and admit doing it to scare their random mind-fuck victims on the street in their vids. It's just as bad in gods eyes as the physical act. Although they would probably admit that, the physical sex act is "a bit more” enjoyable than their thought crime version.

  • What about the Maclearan F1?

  • @Mahoivlich The McLaren F1 is the all time greatest super car ever made. I was going to use it, but want to save that for a later video. I'd marry that car.

  • This entire video gives the reason that i paused making videos. ill be starting up again around october after a much needed respite. Great video greg.

  • Favorited for underwear on your head.

  • Top Gear (UK version) FTW.

  • @TheNakedAtheist US Top Gear is crappy. 

  • @ProportionalResponse

    Indeed. 

  • Killing a human never solved anything.

    Even serial (really sick and crazy) killers have their uses: make him a test subject!

    A guinea pig for cancer or AIDS cure, or any other deadly disease.

    This way he'll be able to pay society back!

  • Suppose the million dollars you mention to do the right thing has to come from somewhere, like other people (which it does). It seems to me that extracting that money from innocent people and NOT spending it where it could benefit the most people in need would counter any morality gained by doing the right thing. Thus, you are doing far worse by taking that money in the first place. So money IS an issue to consider wrt morality.

  • @MrStillmans Would you agree with that, if you were on death row?

  • @ProportionalResponse I have not yet taken a side on the death penalty issue. I do, however, disagree with your notion that money is no object as long as we do the right thing. In Canadian hospitals, we spend over a million dollars on a single person who often doesn't appreciate it, and I can't help but wonder how many lives that money could have saved. But instead, we prolong the life one entitled old grouch. Prisons would have a similar problem: the money is drained from the more deserving ppl

  • I believe that the person one makes a video to is not one's intended audience. Instead the audience is everyone watching the conversation. I believe that there should always be someone keeping people, like those you mentioned, in check. There are those who are on the moderate path who are considering a fundamental path, we should try to make sure there are clear road signs for those that stray to come back to the middle. Well, with a minimal number of videos I mean.

  • suubed.

    hi from "kwarlord" ;-)

  • That's a nice library there my friend.

  • You look well-read. I can't put my finger on why I think that though...

  • As far as comparing Youtubers to cars, I'm probably a Ford Fiesta.

  • I agree for the most part but not everyone makes videos about certain individuals to change their minds. Sometimes they make videos about these people to educate others and also there's the entertainment factor. Sometimes a train wreck is fascinating to watch, so to speak.

  • Addressing some numpty who will not listen or might just move their position fractionally does seem to be a waste of time.

    I spend a disproportionate amount of time attacking Condell. Do I think I will get him to change his mind? Not for a second.

    I just use him as a handy shorthand for people who think like him, a lens to focus with and a lure to draw his supporters into a conversation.

    If you don't use someone from the opposition camp as a hook you might end up preaching to the choir only.

  • you are one of those youtubers sir :)

  • I can't stop laughing at the paused shot of you with those on your head!!! XD

    Seriously though, well said good sir! You are certainly one of those who inspires me, just as much as Shayrah, Richie, and others. It's people like you and all those you mentioned fondly in this video that I wish would give me feedback to the types of questions I pose to my own audience when I don't know the answer to something. By way of example, and I do honestly hope for your consideration...

    watch?v=vVQAJ6ueqfk

  • i feel the same way =)

  • Glorious video sir glorious

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  • My attention was wandering when you were talking about the cars and I glance over your books. Mao, Crusades, The Art of War, Jokes to Go...

  • @Tocxica LOL I didn't put them in any specific order, I swear. I'm going to move them around by topic eventually.

  • Very good advice. I just went through a frustrating video exchange that devolved into trolling. Now I'm moving on to more interesting things.

  • Your bookshelf sparked my interest...would you be willing to do a book tour?

  • @CeaselesslyCurious I did. =) Look in the videos.  4 videos on all the books. =)

  • why the fuck would you waste all that money on those damn books?

    Just get em at the library for nothin; I bet there's only 4, maybe 5, on that shelf you read more than once.

  • @ugoodHomeBoy but you can't highlight library books or make little side notes

  • @ugoodHomeBoy I like books. I like having the books there, so I can use them without needing to go to the library. Many I've read over and over, or use them a lot when writing. You think that is a lot, you should see the 120GB of music I have. or my sock drawer.

  • @ProportionalResponse

    i know what you mean about the music thing. Dayumn.

    What'd you think of that book of Mao?

  • Excellent point concerning time spent beating a dead horse. I've been trying to adjust the way I interact with other users here on YouTube. While sometimes a thumbs up (or down) is really the only response, most of the time, there is something more we can all add to the discussion if we'll only take the time to do so.

    I recently got a PM that told me my videos literally changed the way they think about others. That's what I'm hoping to do from here on out: be a Bugati, not a Charger. Take care.

  • @XandarsMeteor I have had PMs like that before. They humble me. I've made videos before, then watched them, and deleted them so I can remake it a second time, because of that. Makes you want to be better.

  • @ProportionalResponse Exactly. Thanks for the great videos and the honesty you've always presented. Take care.

  • You don't do it for them. You do it for the people who are watching. By being better than them you show those who are watching that it is possible to be better.

  • Interesting perspective. I notice that there are certain Youtubers who update and I just automatically watch and others who update and I don't immediatly jump to their channels. It's not that they're bad it's just that I'm not as eager. It also depends on my mood though.

  • Don't forget that the audience of a debate can benefit much more than the actual participants (particularly if the debate is focused on an issue less absurd and more controversial than whether or not adulterers should be put to death).

  • i would like to point out that the way it is today in the american system , it actually costs more to put someone to death, that to imprison him for life,,,,just saying

  • I find it completely hilarious to hear Christians (or Muslims) talk about "objective" morality existing. Not only is there no objective definition of their god (as in they all have different conceptions of that god, at least in Christianity) but his supposed commands are neither perceived nor followed objectively.

    To be a true Christian, the word of the bible must be the law of Yahweh/Jesus, end of story, no equivocation. Anything less is just a slow slide to atheism, which is awesome.

  • @TheTexanCanadian

    hmm yea to be fundamentalist.. many liberal religious ppl tend to not focus on this kind of stuff. they put more emphasis on using their beliefs to help others. Sooo to be honest. I think the atheist community specifically on youtube tends to come from families that are very fundamentalist. Not everyone, but I noticed a lot of youtube users do, and have admitted this themselves. I dunno. Not all are like this though. atheism is interesting. secular humanism i prefer more

  • @TheTexanCanadian

    best way to deal with fundamentalist is just to leave them alone, though atleast in the US they're becoming more intrusive. stepping into everyone elses social territory.

  • @lordblazer I'm going to disagree only slightly. I was a seeker and that's what got me to shed my belief in god, but if atheists just "left me alone" when I started talking and started asking questions, I might still be stuck back where I was. Calm, cool discussion can change minds. Cheers.

  • @XandarsMeteor

    I think the purpose of discourse is fine man. But the world isn't as black and white. I'm not atheist btw, and I am speaking out against fundamentalism. Soooo I dunno. I guess for you atheist allowed you to get out of a negative point in life. I never really had that experience of being in a fundamentalist family, but I have met a few that always well quite piss me off. I will agree with you, but to be honest only people who realize something isn't right gets out of it

  • @lordblazer I can respect that stance. My atheism came from years of questioning everything I was taught. For many years I was simply a theist as I threw off the fundamentalism in which I was raised so I could ignore all the b.s. I was taught as a child and experience life. But all through that time, I still thought that there was a possibility that what I was taught was the truth. Slowly, I found that I couldn't accept even the basest of arguments for god(s). It took time and patience.

  • So, you're saying that if somebody wants you inside them...they must strive to be like the Acura. Got it. I'll work on getting past the Charger phase.

  • i could not be more attracted to you...

  • Ending is made of win.

  • Cars that run on petroleum are fucking retarded.

  • Adultery is not a crime. If both adults are consenting of course. The idea that marriage is a contract enforced by government, is down right ridiculous, and I find it hard to believe that many people still submit to such lunacy. Then again, creationists still exist.

  • The death penalty costs more than lifetime incarceration (mainly due to extra legal costs). However, I think you too quickly discarded the broader assertion of monetary gains being a justification. This is because the money can be used to save lives, and a little goes a long way in places like Somalia right now. Life-saving oral rehydration salts cost like 20 cents per child. But whether the government would ever use the savings in a half decent way is a different question.

  • Isn't it a good thing he admitted he was wrong? I understand what you are saying but he admitted he was wrong. What's the big deal?

  • More car vids ???

  • I remember that Charger. Thing's like a bull. *bobs at every stoplight*

  • Peace has NOTHING to do with Christianity.....the Peace symbol is a broken upside down cross in a circle.

    Which basically means his name is

    Broken and Upside Down in Christ Alone

  • "money does not matter when it comes to morality"

    i couldn't agree more. I find it extremely ridiculous when i hear this when talking to people about global warming

  • money does matter to morality. Utilitarianism has a point.

  • +1 about the youtubers that you point out by name. I feel the same way about them. I have my list of "will get around to listening to" and those that I jump on the moment they post a video. If you aren't familiar with him, check out v00d00sixxx too. He's pretty funny.

  • @ZephZhang I know him. I'm talking to him right now =)

  • @ProportionalResponse Then tell him I want him to do a review of Raiders of the Lost Arc!

  • P.S. I ignore trolls to, and have a bare minimum of them. :)

  • @fruitikay too*

  • One time I was in an argument with a Christian about whether Eve ate a magical apple or a supernatural apple. He said I had made a mistake calling it a magical apple and it was a supernatural apple. So my question to you PR is: Is your underwear magical or supernatural?

  • @dtm52 They are magical, and they hide something supernatural. =)

  • I just feel like some Christians are doing mental gymnastics to justify their "agreement" and endorsement with a God/Text that condones the killing of people for stupid shit. The Bible says it, so they have to try and find ways to either agree completely or separate themselves from the stuff that is "bad". In essence, what occurs is a lot of mixed messages and wishy-washy answers from certain Christians.

  • yay! undies!!

    also, good video with excellent points. I feel the same way about youtube channels, expect I would add that there are some users who, when I watch their videos, I leave feeling like I've just been run over by a dodge charger.

  • @TheLizardLass You want any more with me and my underwear, you let me know, dear. (wink)

  • @ProportionalResponse -- and hey, where's my real custom tag? you promised!

    *pouts*

  • lolz

  • Good choice with the boxer briefs.

  • That's cool bro. I don't really care.

    I unsub people all the time. I shouldn't expect an explanation when someone else does it.

  • @TheLaughingOut It was more for the bigger point. But related to him.

  • @ProportionalResponse Yeah, I know.

  • I have to be honest, I wasn't expecting that ending.

  • Yeah, no use beatin a dead horse :)...nice undies!

  • Dunnunununununununununununah! PANTS MAN!

  • He

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