I am probably an INTP and I have an high IQ. Do you have doubts when expressing it to others? I feel as if it is a form of bragging, although I found that its easier for me to conect with more intellectually gifted people.
its kinda weird...Im an INFP but I can fit the INTP archetype so well too...I fit both of them equally well and i can relate to you so well...
I think im an INFP at heart but i've learned to become an INTP ..i dont know its all confusing witth these MBTI archetypes..can you be two of them at once? this MBTI still needs some more research i believe
I can't quite figure out if I'm INTP completely or not. In Elementary school, I was the smart kid. I made a few friends, but overall, I was reading. I finished my work first, ALWAYS looked for the easiest and fastest way to do things, and never afraid to stand up to the teacher or argue. The part I don't understand is that I do have trouble socially, but I was never let into challenge programs due to my energy. I was hyper, I was not quiet. I still never made many friends. :P
Funny, I too was in one of those "gifted" programs when I was young; I was also kicked out for never talking. If I remember correctly I was also kicked out because I thought it was stupid that I had do extra work that I had no interest in doing. Also an intp. .
@Zaphenath4 Well being in high school, I had to accept that sometimes when I ask questions about things and the teacher tries to answer them it can sometimes confuse the other students. Usually I write it on my arm, and research it later. That doesn't keep me from wandering about it the whole day though!
Your videos are absolutely fascinating. You remind me a great deal of myself. I’m an INTP female (as I understand it, we’re pretty rare… though YouTube might lead one to believe otherwise… LOL). In many ways your intensity is where mine was in my younger days. I’ve since mellowed out a bit. :o) It seems that a repeating theme among INTPs is that we want to be understood, but it seems we never get there... at least in our own perceptions.
Im intp and 100% introverted thinking. I didnt get an invite into gifted & talented when i was in like 5th grade. Meanwhile a few of my friends did. I was like wtf? Those motherfuckers made a big mistake.
I'm INTP as well. When you talked about temperature, it reminded me of when I was in first grade and I asked a teacher what a thermometer does. She told me that the mercury in the thermometer shows the heat... and it does. For the next week, I didn't care HOW to read the temperature, I just wanted to know why mercury rose when it got hotter... haha. Thanks for making this video, it was nice to know I'm not completely alone as an analytical person.
See, that's what I find the most interesting. I'm just speaking for myself, but sometimes I 'zoom in' to the point where the practicality disappears. Like in your example when you were too predisposed to actually read or learn to read the thermometer. I can remember being disgruntled/confused growing up mainly because I was overly curious about semantics. What does this mean? Why does it happen? I could care less about how to repeat the steps to recreate the circumstance(s).
@lostinitall4414 I do that as well. My biggest problem is in social things... I have a little bit less than 50% developed extroversion... Which makes sense, being that I'm still a bit social. The problem is, when I'm around people and they say... Contradict themselves, or say something that is incorrect, I am usually very quick to point it out. My close friends understand I'm not trying to be condescending or mean, but a lot of people don't and regard me as quite an asshole.
@ZacharyBarreca I can relate to you COMPLETELY. I went to state for debate in 8th grade (my first year). I have a deep seeded need to correct people, and that has gotten me into so much trouble. XD
@ZacharyBarreca Spot on mate. Whenever I learn something, I'm always obsessed with HOW and WHY something is the way it is. Whereas all the stupid SJ people are content with learning the required method and getting the anwser. Do you find that you refuse to accept something unless you get some insight into the reasoning behind it? And as a result it hinders your 'learning'? The worse part is seeing other students do better than you because they arent 'bogged down' with all that processing.
IQ of 145..damn, I'm jealous. listening to what you've said, I'm kinda beginning to think I might be an INFP...or am turning into one. I used to be very much like you in high school, but now I'm mellowing out...I used to like maths, but not anymore..I was generally good at languages-but the only foreign language I speak is english, so.dunno. lol I'm starting to get more open emotionally. Maybe it's just an early mid-life crises at 21...
It's not what it's cracked up to be. The more competent you're viewed to be in a particular area generally means the expectations are raised. Sometimes quite unfairly so. It's all relative. It's about learning to do the best with what you've been given and trying to improve in whatever areas you can.
The MBTI is quite interesting, but don't assume that you are definitively one of those types. I've found that during times of duress I have been typed closer to an INFP.
@lostinitall4414 oh, good. I feel much better now..I thought I was on my way to perdition. I definitely think the IQ is a bit relative,I have known people with IQs of 110 who were brilliant: good results in science and stuff. I got mine tested in high school, at the age of 14, and it was 123..now it's probably lower. LOL
But it could be that people are having a bad day when they take the test. I have days when I can't focus, if my life depends on it...then I also have sparks of genius.
@lostinitall4414 I take it the IQ is more of a big thing in the US, though..I have heard that it's not unusual for companies to test you before they hire you, not just IQ, but psychological testing, as well. None of which is bullet-proof classifying.
It sounds a bit discriminating to me, though. Kind of like the scenario of "Gattaca" if you saw the film, or, like I read a few years ago about an Austrian company only hiring people who belonged to certain Zodiac Signs..
An INTP as well, your words sparked a sense of wonder in me, to an emotional state derived from hearing your own wonder of the world and it's inner workings. I often feel as though I'm lost among others who only care about the now and how to get to the next. I fear the next until I understand the now; If something is missed I may not have the frame of mind to perceive it as I did at the initial moment of interest.
@thedementedboy Deja Vu? For the most part I think it's just a redundant scenario. Beyond that I think that we're only capable of perceiving a certain percentage of the reality around us. Each item in question is systemically linked to what we view as 'real.' It's sort of an existential rabbit hole where one thing can inevitably be linked to another and one instance somehow reminds us of a similar instance...whether that instance be reality or some virtual creation of our subconscious.
I hope you make more Video's you articulate your thoughts very clearly. I find it interesting that you are a security seeker when it comes to relationships I thought that was more a SJ thing since they are known to be security seekers. Most NT's that I know are not future focus when it comes to relationship, they are more in it for the moment and lets see where things go esp if they are a P at least the NT's that i know.
Hey, just an ENFJ dropping by. I love the way you articulated your thoughts on the iNtuitive function. "Waking up in the morning and smelling bacon and eggs in the kitchen." :) And the rest is awesome too. Goodness, I love the way NTPs think.
lol, well I didn't know how else to explain it. It's just that essence of something. Something that you intuit that may not even exist tangibly. That permeating scent that breakfast food has when you're waking is just one of those things... In that very first WAKING instant...it's there.
Interesting way of sharing your thoughts about ur type, liked it very much. I tested INTP too and relate to your story and also to what others wrote here. Im not into science at all but more interested in gamma subjects (social matters, economics, behavioral subjects , politics). An ongoing journey of gathering and absorbing information.
Eh, I'm not the most articulate, but I do attempt it. I find it entertaining and fun. I have an awkward sense of humor given my intellectual bent. So, I'm glad that you enjoyed the video.
I love theory in general. The whole idea of cause and effect, really. How things interact with their environments, organize, and function.... good stuff.
I wouldn't get too caught up in the psychometric result. It's a bandwagon pursuit that is a lot of fun and can be utilized as a tool for self-discovery. Reduce it to the lowest common denominator. You must be a person to be an intp. If you focus on being SOME THING then you'll approach a divisive and biased mindset. Although, I'll admit that there are many things that the archetype really nails.
I was laughing during most of your video because I get it. I say most because I don't have much of an interest in the sciences. When you started talking about class, I thought about my problem in school which was I wanted to challenge the teacher on where they got their experience, ideas, beliefs. A lot of social interactions are vetting sessions for me where I want to see what the other person knows so I know if I can really go into a subject with them. As a generalist, I'm into many subjects.
Kind of reminds me of something I read once... "The INTP above all else values competency and is always questioning the truth of things." If you apply that to an ego-centrist...you'll have a long day.
I also intensely disliked those intelligence tests they made me take to test into gifted programs. Part of the reason might have been because I never actually got into one, but then I remember just sitting their in the mundane environment (with the fan buzzing) and having these questions thrown at me that had no significance to anything whatsoever. It was just a big bore for me. I don't know what to make of something like that.
Well, I think that type of testing definitely has some pertinence. The issue with it is that it is VERY subjective in my opinion. Can you honestly expect that from one person to another there is going to be some sort of quality control? The vast majority of the educational system panders to specific learning types anyway. That would be my primary argument against that type of test. Instead, I think there should be more divisions instead of smart-'er' and not-so-smart..duality at best
I feel like when I'm around people I'm more comfortable with, I am INFP. I don't feel like I'm analyzing every move they make.
I have certain, unchangeable morals that seem to be based a lot of how I FEEL, but they are also based on logic. I feel very strongly about certain issues, and I really don't care about much else.
I don't really care much for knowing what water is made of, but more of abstract theories (like social theories, that kind of thing).
It sounds like you're more likely a F rather than a T. However, it is important to remember that these traits are, in essence, ratios. There is also a lot of other variables to account for. That's the beauty of this type of thing to me...it's so remarkably abstract, but it it ties some things together somehow. I doubt that there's any finite or definitive evidence that this type of thing is true or false. I just enjoy extrapolating the parallels. It's interesting.
I'm a female INTP and I can totally relate to what you're saying here.
Everyone says that female INTP have harder times in life. women interact more with each other and the one who is always absent-minded (read:me) is treated as a weird creature.I stop caring about those things a long time ago coz I think I'd better spend my time on fascinating thoughts.
This video is the only one I found saying that you hate numbers...I hate numbers..so much..
It's just nice to hear from like-minded people..=D
I'm glad to hear that some of the ideas presented resonate with you. I've spent a lot of time contemplating the intricacies of this psychometric test. Please feel free to watch and comment on my other videos if you'd like. If I can get enough traffic I may be able to justify throwing some other videos up here.
Yeah, I really hate numbers. They're so hindering. Sure, they're great to establish some sense of value, but value is relative. People spend too much time associating value.
I see where you're coming from with the math thing. I just feel as if math in general is a HIGHLY ambiguous approach to understanding. I mean if you think about what a number is it's a fraction of some infinitive quantity. It reminds me of being a little kid and playing with blocks or lincoln logs trying to build some spectacular work of architecture. I think CompSci, CogSci, Psychology, or Philosophy approach logic in a much better way. That's just me. I hate numbers.
Yeah I am an ISTP, deff. had me on the relationships part(people are too pushy!), and I guess being part of an ISTP is not really knowing about people's feelings, especially my own. And I am always distracted 50% of the time.
i guess the one thing i may have on my side though is the sensing(fact) but of course this is only used in debating no real world situations.
So what were you saying about the percieving and judging?
@littleflowwer I would say that J's are more present tense and P's are more focused on how this moment in time relates to something else. I have that desire for clarity in the present moment, but I realize that the clarity will come once this experience has been compared to others. I find that J's want the resolution now and can be much more impetuous. Neither is right or wrong..just a different approach.
Really enjoyed your talk. You were describing your educational style and how you want it to be much more interactive, argument type. I can totally agree with that. The point is i hear graduate programs are all about that. Especially MBAs
I'm not sure I would phrase it as "argument type." I would more closely relate it to a debate. The idea being that there may be more than one plausible solution to the problem/question and that doesn't necessarily mean one or the other is incorrect.
What have you heard about the MBA that makes you feel like it's similar? Just curious..thanks for the comment.
Debate is a better way to put it. MBA is about decision making & adapting to environments. Business environment at that level is complex enough that there is no good model that fits all possilities (yet) so there are more than one solution to the problems. I think the further you go in any field things become more ... "fuzzy" The challenge for NTs is to get through all the "details" in the begining of school and then shine when they get to the less concrete areas of their field.
Great video. I really enjoyed listening to your breakdown of INTP and your experience with being an INTP. I'm an INFJ, but we have a Ti, so I enjoyed listening to you talk about your thinking process.
Great video. I can relate to much of it, and I'm guessing many other INTPs can too. Questioning always what is behind the obvious and what things really mean can become an obsession and sometimes it isolates you from other human beings; it's good to know there are people like you out there who are wondering the same things I am.
Absolutely... I think it is paramount that in spite of the possibility of there being some repetitive psychical archetype...we all need to find our own meaning.
Interesting video. You sound more assertive than the majority of younger-ish INTPs... Perhaps part of that influence comes from your deeper voice.
I found that it can be helpful to carry a notebook around with me when I go places... or at least a piece of paper and a pen to write down ideas if I am currently thinking about a way to solve something. It is often difficult for me to retain some of my ideas for more than 10 minutes... so it can help.
The notebook has quickly become a staple in my everyday life (when I can remember to bring it). I typically just pack a duffel bag full of everything I could possibly need and keep it in my car.
How would you describe your thought process? I mean mine seems kind of flighty. I tend to go wherever the intellectual winds feel like taking me. It's no wonder I get the sensation that I'm not being understood so often. Having these fantastic ideas and articulating them are two different things.
"Its like waking up in the morning smelling bacon and eggs" well said haha.
cloclo11thirty 2 months ago
I am probably an INTP and I have an high IQ. Do you have doubts when expressing it to others? I feel as if it is a form of bragging, although I found that its easier for me to conect with more intellectually gifted people.
ROZEROxy 3 months ago
Did you like Calc? I find the concepts interesting, but like you said, "keeping track of the numbers"... Yeah, not my style XD
Insatium 1 year ago
INFP here, I also "enjoy the complication .. instead of just doing what you're supposed to do, cuz that's just boring".
hasenj 1 year ago
its kinda weird...Im an INFP but I can fit the INTP archetype so well too...I fit both of them equally well and i can relate to you so well...
I think im an INFP at heart but i've learned to become an INTP ..i dont know its all confusing witth these MBTI archetypes..can you be two of them at once? this MBTI still needs some more research i believe
veronicachic 1 year ago
Just wondering...what major did you go into in university?
ellenruppart 1 year ago
I can't quite figure out if I'm INTP completely or not. In Elementary school, I was the smart kid. I made a few friends, but overall, I was reading. I finished my work first, ALWAYS looked for the easiest and fastest way to do things, and never afraid to stand up to the teacher or argue. The part I don't understand is that I do have trouble socially, but I was never let into challenge programs due to my energy. I was hyper, I was not quiet. I still never made many friends. :P
Zionoxis 1 year ago
I'm an ISFP and I was the quiet kid in gifted class too. I never got kicked out though. People just thought I was weird.
Jzend001 1 year ago
Funny, I too was in one of those "gifted" programs when I was young; I was also kicked out for never talking. If I remember correctly I was also kicked out because I thought it was stupid that I had do extra work that I had no interest in doing. Also an intp. .
brwilson90 1 year ago 5
@brwilson90
That is pretty funny. Not because of the situation, but because of the stark similarity.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
@Zaphenath4 Well being in high school, I had to accept that sometimes when I ask questions about things and the teacher tries to answer them it can sometimes confuse the other students. Usually I write it on my arm, and research it later. That doesn't keep me from wandering about it the whole day though!
ZacharyBarreca 1 year ago
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ZacharyBarreca 1 year ago
Your videos are absolutely fascinating. You remind me a great deal of myself. I’m an INTP female (as I understand it, we’re pretty rare… though YouTube might lead one to believe otherwise… LOL). In many ways your intensity is where mine was in my younger days. I’ve since mellowed out a bit. :o) It seems that a repeating theme among INTPs is that we want to be understood, but it seems we never get there... at least in our own perceptions.
signsofhealth 1 year ago
Im intp and 100% introverted thinking. I didnt get an invite into gifted & talented when i was in like 5th grade. Meanwhile a few of my friends did. I was like wtf? Those motherfuckers made a big mistake.
CantWeedThis 1 year ago
nice man.. i was also in Gnt..
SVYATOSLAV23 1 year ago
I'm INTP as well. When you talked about temperature, it reminded me of when I was in first grade and I asked a teacher what a thermometer does. She told me that the mercury in the thermometer shows the heat... and it does. For the next week, I didn't care HOW to read the temperature, I just wanted to know why mercury rose when it got hotter... haha. Thanks for making this video, it was nice to know I'm not completely alone as an analytical person.
ZacharyBarreca 1 year ago
@ZacharyBarreca
See, that's what I find the most interesting. I'm just speaking for myself, but sometimes I 'zoom in' to the point where the practicality disappears. Like in your example when you were too predisposed to actually read or learn to read the thermometer. I can remember being disgruntled/confused growing up mainly because I was overly curious about semantics. What does this mean? Why does it happen? I could care less about how to repeat the steps to recreate the circumstance(s).
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
@lostinitall4414 I do that as well. My biggest problem is in social things... I have a little bit less than 50% developed extroversion... Which makes sense, being that I'm still a bit social. The problem is, when I'm around people and they say... Contradict themselves, or say something that is incorrect, I am usually very quick to point it out. My close friends understand I'm not trying to be condescending or mean, but a lot of people don't and regard me as quite an asshole.
ZacharyBarreca 1 year ago
@ZacharyBarreca I can relate to you COMPLETELY. I went to state for debate in 8th grade (my first year). I have a deep seeded need to correct people, and that has gotten me into so much trouble. XD
Zionoxis 1 year ago
@ZacharyBarreca Spot on mate. Whenever I learn something, I'm always obsessed with HOW and WHY something is the way it is. Whereas all the stupid SJ people are content with learning the required method and getting the anwser. Do you find that you refuse to accept something unless you get some insight into the reasoning behind it? And as a result it hinders your 'learning'? The worse part is seeing other students do better than you because they arent 'bogged down' with all that processing.
Zaphenath4 1 year ago
IQ of 145..damn, I'm jealous. listening to what you've said, I'm kinda beginning to think I might be an INFP...or am turning into one. I used to be very much like you in high school, but now I'm mellowing out...I used to like maths, but not anymore..I was generally good at languages-but the only foreign language I speak is english, so.dunno. lol I'm starting to get more open emotionally. Maybe it's just an early mid-life crises at 21...
NightinGal89 1 year ago 4
@NightinGal89
It's not what it's cracked up to be. The more competent you're viewed to be in a particular area generally means the expectations are raised. Sometimes quite unfairly so. It's all relative. It's about learning to do the best with what you've been given and trying to improve in whatever areas you can.
The MBTI is quite interesting, but don't assume that you are definitively one of those types. I've found that during times of duress I have been typed closer to an INFP.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago 3
@lostinitall4414 oh, good. I feel much better now..I thought I was on my way to perdition. I definitely think the IQ is a bit relative,I have known people with IQs of 110 who were brilliant: good results in science and stuff. I got mine tested in high school, at the age of 14, and it was 123..now it's probably lower. LOL
But it could be that people are having a bad day when they take the test. I have days when I can't focus, if my life depends on it...then I also have sparks of genius.
NightinGal89 1 year ago
@lostinitall4414 I take it the IQ is more of a big thing in the US, though..I have heard that it's not unusual for companies to test you before they hire you, not just IQ, but psychological testing, as well. None of which is bullet-proof classifying.
It sounds a bit discriminating to me, though. Kind of like the scenario of "Gattaca" if you saw the film, or, like I read a few years ago about an Austrian company only hiring people who belonged to certain Zodiac Signs..
NightinGal89 1 year ago
@ lost:
An INTP as well, your words sparked a sense of wonder in me, to an emotional state derived from hearing your own wonder of the world and it's inner workings. I often feel as though I'm lost among others who only care about the now and how to get to the next. I fear the next until I understand the now; If something is missed I may not have the frame of mind to perceive it as I did at the initial moment of interest.
What are your thoughts on deja vu?
thedementedboy 1 year ago
@thedementedboy Deja Vu? For the most part I think it's just a redundant scenario. Beyond that I think that we're only capable of perceiving a certain percentage of the reality around us. Each item in question is systemically linked to what we view as 'real.' It's sort of an existential rabbit hole where one thing can inevitably be linked to another and one instance somehow reminds us of a similar instance...whether that instance be reality or some virtual creation of our subconscious.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
I hope you make more Video's you articulate your thoughts very clearly. I find it interesting that you are a security seeker when it comes to relationships I thought that was more a SJ thing since they are known to be security seekers. Most NT's that I know are not future focus when it comes to relationship, they are more in it for the moment and lets see where things go esp if they are a P at least the NT's that i know.
prodigygirl2 1 year ago
Hi INTP. Nice video. - From an INTP.
Zaphenath4 1 year ago
@Zaphenath4
Thanks.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
@lostinitall4414 No problem.
Zaphenath4 1 year ago
I love your analogy on perceiving I have an extremely strong P function, the not swimming describes it well.
brikiss77 1 year ago
@brikiss77
I was just trying to shoot for a tangible analogy. You know, something people could relate to. Of course this is barring the fear of drowning..;-p
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
@lostinitall4414 I know personally I think its like being high.
brikiss77 1 year ago
Hey, just an ENFJ dropping by. I love the way you articulated your thoughts on the iNtuitive function. "Waking up in the morning and smelling bacon and eggs in the kitchen." :) And the rest is awesome too. Goodness, I love the way NTPs think.
riddleinthesky 1 year ago
@riddleinthesky
lol, well I didn't know how else to explain it. It's just that essence of something. Something that you intuit that may not even exist tangibly. That permeating scent that breakfast food has when you're waking is just one of those things... In that very first WAKING instant...it's there.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
Interesting way of sharing your thoughts about ur type, liked it very much. I tested INTP too and relate to your story and also to what others wrote here. Im not into science at all but more interested in gamma subjects (social matters, economics, behavioral subjects , politics). An ongoing journey of gathering and absorbing information.
styzoom 1 year ago
@styzoom
Eh, I'm not the most articulate, but I do attempt it. I find it entertaining and fun. I have an awkward sense of humor given my intellectual bent. So, I'm glad that you enjoyed the video.
I love theory in general. The whole idea of cause and effect, really. How things interact with their environments, organize, and function.... good stuff.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
ya i feel u about the self-questioning. intp too though im questioning it.
TheNotho 1 year ago
@TheNotho
I wouldn't get too caught up in the psychometric result. It's a bandwagon pursuit that is a lot of fun and can be utilized as a tool for self-discovery. Reduce it to the lowest common denominator. You must be a person to be an intp. If you focus on being SOME THING then you'll approach a divisive and biased mindset. Although, I'll admit that there are many things that the archetype really nails.
Have a good one.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
I was laughing during most of your video because I get it. I say most because I don't have much of an interest in the sciences. When you started talking about class, I thought about my problem in school which was I wanted to challenge the teacher on where they got their experience, ideas, beliefs. A lot of social interactions are vetting sessions for me where I want to see what the other person knows so I know if I can really go into a subject with them. As a generalist, I'm into many subjects.
tylrdrdn9999 1 year ago
@tylrdrdn9999
Kind of reminds me of something I read once... "The INTP above all else values competency and is always questioning the truth of things." If you apply that to an ego-centrist...you'll have a long day.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
I also intensely disliked those intelligence tests they made me take to test into gifted programs. Part of the reason might have been because I never actually got into one, but then I remember just sitting their in the mundane environment (with the fan buzzing) and having these questions thrown at me that had no significance to anything whatsoever. It was just a big bore for me. I don't know what to make of something like that.
win31415 1 year ago
@win31415
Well, I think that type of testing definitely has some pertinence. The issue with it is that it is VERY subjective in my opinion. Can you honestly expect that from one person to another there is going to be some sort of quality control? The vast majority of the educational system panders to specific learning types anyway. That would be my primary argument against that type of test. Instead, I think there should be more divisions instead of smart-'er' and not-so-smart..duality at best
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
I don't know if I am INTP or INFP.
I feel like when I'm around people I'm more comfortable with, I am INFP. I don't feel like I'm analyzing every move they make.
I have certain, unchangeable morals that seem to be based a lot of how I FEEL, but they are also based on logic. I feel very strongly about certain issues, and I really don't care about much else.
I don't really care much for knowing what water is made of, but more of abstract theories (like social theories, that kind of thing).
win31415 1 year ago
@win31415
It sounds like you're more likely a F rather than a T. However, it is important to remember that these traits are, in essence, ratios. There is also a lot of other variables to account for. That's the beauty of this type of thing to me...it's so remarkably abstract, but it it ties some things together somehow. I doubt that there's any finite or definitive evidence that this type of thing is true or false. I just enjoy extrapolating the parallels. It's interesting.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
I'm a female INTP and I can totally relate to what you're saying here.
Everyone says that female INTP have harder times in life. women interact more with each other and the one who is always absent-minded (read:me) is treated as a weird creature.I stop caring about those things a long time ago coz I think I'd better spend my time on fascinating thoughts.
This video is the only one I found saying that you hate numbers...I hate numbers..so much..
It's just nice to hear from like-minded people..=D
noratn 1 year ago
@noratn
I'm glad to hear that some of the ideas presented resonate with you. I've spent a lot of time contemplating the intricacies of this psychometric test. Please feel free to watch and comment on my other videos if you'd like. If I can get enough traffic I may be able to justify throwing some other videos up here.
Yeah, I really hate numbers. They're so hindering. Sure, they're great to establish some sense of value, but value is relative. People spend too much time associating value.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
I'd say Math is pretty close to logic. You are not into Math because it has never been taught wisely (or openly)? Or does it seem uninteresting?
fehrkunst 1 year ago
@fehrkunst
I see where you're coming from with the math thing. I just feel as if math in general is a HIGHLY ambiguous approach to understanding. I mean if you think about what a number is it's a fraction of some infinitive quantity. It reminds me of being a little kid and playing with blocks or lincoln logs trying to build some spectacular work of architecture. I think CompSci, CogSci, Psychology, or Philosophy approach logic in a much better way. That's just me. I hate numbers.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
Yeah I am an ISTP, deff. had me on the relationships part(people are too pushy!), and I guess being part of an ISTP is not really knowing about people's feelings, especially my own. And I am always distracted 50% of the time.
i guess the one thing i may have on my side though is the sensing(fact) but of course this is only used in debating no real world situations.
So what were you saying about the percieving and judging?
littleflowwer 1 year ago
@littleflowwer I would say that J's are more present tense and P's are more focused on how this moment in time relates to something else. I have that desire for clarity in the present moment, but I realize that the clarity will come once this experience has been compared to others. I find that J's want the resolution now and can be much more impetuous. Neither is right or wrong..just a different approach.
The J's seems more interactive NOW...i think.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
Really enjoyed your talk. You were describing your educational style and how you want it to be much more interactive, argument type. I can totally agree with that. The point is i hear graduate programs are all about that. Especially MBAs
googamanga 2 years ago
I'm not sure I would phrase it as "argument type." I would more closely relate it to a debate. The idea being that there may be more than one plausible solution to the problem/question and that doesn't necessarily mean one or the other is incorrect.
What have you heard about the MBA that makes you feel like it's similar? Just curious..thanks for the comment.
lostinitall4414 2 years ago
Debate is a better way to put it. MBA is about decision making & adapting to environments. Business environment at that level is complex enough that there is no good model that fits all possilities (yet) so there are more than one solution to the problems. I think the further you go in any field things become more ... "fuzzy" The challenge for NTs is to get through all the "details" in the begining of school and then shine when they get to the less concrete areas of their field.
googamanga 2 years ago
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googamanga 2 years ago
Great video. I really enjoyed listening to your breakdown of INTP and your experience with being an INTP. I'm an INFJ, but we have a Ti, so I enjoyed listening to you talk about your thinking process.
SoxAsh0810 2 years ago
@SoxAsh0810
Thank you for taking the time to watch.
lostinitall4414 1 year ago
Great video. I can relate to much of it, and I'm guessing many other INTPs can too. Questioning always what is behind the obvious and what things really mean can become an obsession and sometimes it isolates you from other human beings; it's good to know there are people like you out there who are wondering the same things I am.
madcell 2 years ago
@madcell
Absolutely... I think it is paramount that in spite of the possibility of there being some repetitive psychical archetype...we all need to find our own meaning.
Thanks for the comment.
lostinitall4414 2 years ago
Interesting video. You sound more assertive than the majority of younger-ish INTPs... Perhaps part of that influence comes from your deeper voice.
I found that it can be helpful to carry a notebook around with me when I go places... or at least a piece of paper and a pen to write down ideas if I am currently thinking about a way to solve something. It is often difficult for me to retain some of my ideas for more than 10 minutes... so it can help.
DissonantShadow 2 years ago
The notebook has quickly become a staple in my everyday life (when I can remember to bring it). I typically just pack a duffel bag full of everything I could possibly need and keep it in my car.
How would you describe your thought process? I mean mine seems kind of flighty. I tend to go wherever the intellectual winds feel like taking me. It's no wonder I get the sensation that I'm not being understood so often. Having these fantastic ideas and articulating them are two different things.
lostinitall4414 2 years ago