This seems necessarily dangerous for normal mountaineering. I could see this possibly working in the military when you might get shot if you are slow, however this relying on a rope to not slip seems silly. What if I use smaller diameter rope, nylon versus whatever that rope was, or if there are wet conditions. I don't think this is an everyday type of technique. That being said, thank you grbroussard for your service.
@danballarin We used it for a "hasty" rappel. You think thats crazy you should see how we rappel out of helos! I will have to make a video on that deal. Thanks for the comment.
Much better than how I did it. With the exception of ineffieciency and danger, the method you have presented here is far surperior to mine in every way.
This is realy good! Just one question, if i'm repelling down a cliff, do i want to have the rope dubble so that both ends reaches the bottom of the cliff?. Sorry for my bad english, long time i spoken / typed it xD.
@JukkAMoviE It is always safer to rappel using double lines. I never just use one line just in case one fails. The double line ables you to pull one for the release and one for rappelling. This is the only time I have used just one line in this configuration.
@grbroussard Okey thanks :). I'm gonna try your method and then the swiss seat :). What i need is just a simple knot ( like yours ) and a simple seat so i can be quick and get on moving. The only bad thing i find about double the ropes is it getting shorting ( if you dont have much rope )
@grbroussard Hey mate. It worked out just great :)! thanks. But the swiss seat is a nutcracker.... I have one question, when i repelled i almost got no brake with my right hand, i held it behind me but still didn't get enough brake, i'm using a pretty small rope but ive seen military using the same kind of thickness, and they can break it with full load on even, is there some kind of special way to hold to rope in your brake hand or just hold it like you want?.or Is it becuz i didn't use a Fig8?
@JukkAMoviE A figure 8 will stop your weight. You can even tie off the rope on a figure 8 to stop and use your hands without breaking. Without the figure 8 its a challenge to stop quickly. The equipment we used was to come out of a helo' fast and hit the ground as quickly as possible. Hope this helps you.
@grbroussard Thank you!. Yes that was the answear i wanted :=). I tired it again today from much higher alt, and it went pretty good without fig8, but it was kinda hard to brake and a bit untrusty, but it worked ;)
If you simply rapped the rope around the tree or through a ring then you have to use both ends of the rope to rappel reducing the max lentgh by half. But with your methods you could use 95 feet of rope to rappel and on the anchor side just tie 100 feet of something much lighter such as parachute cord to it. then you can still use the full length of the rope to rappel and pull the parachute cord to release the knot.
Right! Really sucks for tale end Charlie. You can just rape the rope around the anchor, drop the rope and rappel without any knots at all. I hate doing it that way.
The weight of the person going down the rope keeps that person from falling. You have to rappel down the correct rope. If you go down the wrong rope then you will fall. One side is for rappelling and the other side is for the release of the rope from the anchor. The carabineer does nothing at all. Its just there for safety. I have used this technique and it works well. Anyway feel free to ask anything else.
At what point in the video do you talk about this? Please forgive my ignorance or misunderstanding... I'm just trying to understand you. Once the carabiner is removed, what keeps the rappel line from pulling through the slipknot ?
Excellent video but by your explanation, you still need someone at the top to unlock the carabiner to release the rope for recovery on the ground. If the last man down (before he rappels) takes out the carabiner and rappels, then he risks the loop pulling through the slipknot and falling to the deck. Am I understanding this correctly?? How should you tie the rope in, rappel, then recover the rope from the ground (single man rappel/rope recovery) ??
Very cool!
manvscode 1 month ago
This seems necessarily dangerous for normal mountaineering. I could see this possibly working in the military when you might get shot if you are slow, however this relying on a rope to not slip seems silly. What if I use smaller diameter rope, nylon versus whatever that rope was, or if there are wet conditions. I don't think this is an everyday type of technique. That being said, thank you grbroussard for your service.
danballarin 2 months ago
@danballarin We used it for a "hasty" rappel. You think thats crazy you should see how we rappel out of helos! I will have to make a video on that deal. Thanks for the comment.
grbroussard 1 month ago
Much better than how I did it. With the exception of ineffieciency and danger, the method you have presented here is far surperior to mine in every way.
Thank you for posting.
Neverjinxed 6 months ago
@Neverjinxed It has never failed on me "yet" Hope it stays that way.
grbroussard 6 months ago
Just to clarify, for the second rope recovery "yours", last man takes the biner off, and rapels down, then procedes to recover the rope?
nisher15 6 months ago
@nisher15 That is correct.
grbroussard 6 months ago
@grbroussard Thx, tried it out, works amazing!
nisher15 6 months ago
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@grbroussard Thx, tried it out, works amazing!
nisher15 6 months ago
I got it now. I understand how to retrieve the rope. I don't have to do it Bear Grill's (Man vs Wild dude) way after all. Thank you!
khmerairborne 8 months ago
This is realy good! Just one question, if i'm repelling down a cliff, do i want to have the rope dubble so that both ends reaches the bottom of the cliff?. Sorry for my bad english, long time i spoken / typed it xD.
Thanks again for a great vid!
JukkAMoviE 9 months ago
@JukkAMoviE It is always safer to rappel using double lines. I never just use one line just in case one fails. The double line ables you to pull one for the release and one for rappelling. This is the only time I have used just one line in this configuration.
grbroussard 9 months ago
@grbroussard Okey thanks :). I'm gonna try your method and then the swiss seat :). What i need is just a simple knot ( like yours ) and a simple seat so i can be quick and get on moving. The only bad thing i find about double the ropes is it getting shorting ( if you dont have much rope )
Thanks again for sharing!
JukkAMoviE 9 months ago
@JukkAMoviE I agree. You need a super long rope. Good luck! Let me know how it turns out.
grbroussard 9 months ago
@grbroussard Hey mate. It worked out just great :)! thanks. But the swiss seat is a nutcracker.... I have one question, when i repelled i almost got no brake with my right hand, i held it behind me but still didn't get enough brake, i'm using a pretty small rope but ive seen military using the same kind of thickness, and they can break it with full load on even, is there some kind of special way to hold to rope in your brake hand or just hold it like you want?.or Is it becuz i didn't use a Fig8?
JukkAMoviE 9 months ago
@JukkAMoviE A figure 8 will stop your weight. You can even tie off the rope on a figure 8 to stop and use your hands without breaking. Without the figure 8 its a challenge to stop quickly. The equipment we used was to come out of a helo' fast and hit the ground as quickly as possible. Hope this helps you.
grbroussard 9 months ago
@grbroussard Thank you!. Yes that was the answear i wanted :=). I tired it again today from much higher alt, and it went pretty good without fig8, but it was kinda hard to brake and a bit untrusty, but it worked ;)
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JukkAMoviE 9 months ago
Thanks for posting this video!
officialposer 11 months ago
Your improved method is nice. Good video for rappelling with minimal gear.
chestariam1 1 year ago
@chestariam1 THANKS!!!
grbroussard 1 year ago
Thanks man... I hadn't done a recoverable line in a long while and I kept getting it wrong trying to figure it out again... I appreciate the help!
bbgun1182 1 year ago
@bbgun1182 No problem.
grbroussard 1 year ago
If you simply rapped the rope around the tree or through a ring then you have to use both ends of the rope to rappel reducing the max lentgh by half. But with your methods you could use 95 feet of rope to rappel and on the anchor side just tie 100 feet of something much lighter such as parachute cord to it. then you can still use the full length of the rope to rappel and pull the parachute cord to release the knot.
K1330S 1 year ago
Finally, someone who speeks my language... Yut!! 00-04
rrupcich 2 years ago
So the last man goes down without the biner, right? So the last man takes some (small) risk, right?
spsmith1965 2 years ago
Right! Really sucks for tale end Charlie. You can just rape the rope around the anchor, drop the rope and rappel without any knots at all. I hate doing it that way.
grbroussard 2 years ago
Start watching at 8:30 I say the last man off...anyway, let me know of any other corrections and I will re-shoot. THANKS AGIAN.
grbroussard 2 years ago
The weight of the person going down the rope keeps that person from falling. You have to rappel down the correct rope. If you go down the wrong rope then you will fall. One side is for rappelling and the other side is for the release of the rope from the anchor. The carabineer does nothing at all. Its just there for safety. I have used this technique and it works well. Anyway feel free to ask anything else.
grbroussard 2 years ago
At what point in the video do you talk about this? Please forgive my ignorance or misunderstanding... I'm just trying to understand you. Once the carabiner is removed, what keeps the rappel line from pulling through the slipknot ?
seth5639 2 years ago
Good point you bring up, but I go over that in the video.
grbroussard 2 years ago
Excellent video but by your explanation, you still need someone at the top to unlock the carabiner to release the rope for recovery on the ground. If the last man down (before he rappels) takes out the carabiner and rappels, then he risks the loop pulling through the slipknot and falling to the deck. Am I understanding this correctly?? How should you tie the rope in, rappel, then recover the rope from the ground (single man rappel/rope recovery) ??
seth5639 2 years ago
thanks for this video. I always wondered how to do this.
adoboy327 2 years ago