@tlawton49 The macedonians had this tactic: The front half of the phalanx splits in two and moved appart to both sides. Then, the rear half points the sarissas to the scythed chariots slowing them down. Then, the split front half closes, forming a sort of trap.
@supersmash43 because his men were slaves to him. At issus he fled and left behind along with all his riches, his mother, wife and daughter! WHat a coward indeed.
im glad they showed the guy pissin himself findin redemption in the heart of the battle man that was a good touch i wish the rest of this trash fucking movie was as good as this
I don't understand why Darius' Immortal guards and center infantry couldn't counter Alexander's attempt to drive a wedge in the Persian center. They should have been able to repel the strike down the middle...It must have been Darius' nervousness and lack of ability to see his flanks were still holding.
@szczepaniak39 and Alexander inherited his ftahers kingdom on his death. He was also hegemon of the league of corinth (most greek states bar sparta were in this league) so therefore he leads 'greece' or most of the greek states on a conquest to destroy the persian empire
People interested in other great commanders of history should look up Alexander Suvorov, who commanded Russian forces in the French Revolutionary and early Napoleonic wars. He also never lost a battle and was a great field commander.
I agree faleru. Alexander the Great was perhaps the greatest Commander in all of history. I think what he did with the resouces he had, plus what we all interprete as an incredible gamble was to him, in his genious, a very sensible risk for a worthy gain. He knew for a long time that he could defeat Darius in direct battle.
ridiculous question: does anyone know what the macedonian infantry are chanting as they march in unison in the phalanx? myself being a marine, i find it very motivating. i've always wondered, ever since i saw the movie for the first time.
@Snowman20 slings are actually pretty deadly. I've seen them in use by shepherds in Tibet, it was scary powerful at hurling a half-fist sized stone, could easily kill a man.
@boogisboogis i've been slinging for 3 years and the person in the movie at 1:27 is really good compared to other movies. if it was real and he was that good of a shot he could have easily killed the man
@cozos No choice when you're running shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of other men and can't move left or right, and you'll be pushed from behind if you try and stop. You just gotta hope you're in a perfect spot where you can move between the spears if possible or be further down the line or rows.
The Late Achaemenid Persians didn't had Immortals, that would be the earlier incarnation of Persians who fought the Greeks over 100 years before Alexander.
does darius know the term "out-flanking'? that is the primary weakness of the phalanx and he just sends his cavalry right up against their spears. god, i think i coulda done a better job than darius. i dont think i would win the battle but i woulda do a better job.
In the real battle Alexander knew he could be outflanked, so he stationed a reserve phalanx behind the main one. Alexander's strategy actually depended on Darius trying to outflank him, thus creating a gap in his line.
@Doomhammer15 i done't think so... they would have carried bows with them cos they used bow spear and shield, which is why they are a great troop to have
@Doomhammer15 well they should of won this battle, it was a wide plane which is perfect for the persian chariots they have plenty more infantry so they could of out flanked the enemy, darius should of crushed them...
@TheRugbyfullback And the red/green tunic dude with the funny caps, as i mention before are the Cardaces (Persian Infantry), is that right? cause i'm interest in Persian Battle formation and their fighting tactic, sorry if i asked too much question, Thanx!
@fragitza I actually think in this movie they somewhat combined the battles of Granicus, Isis, and Gaugemela into one giant battle since they didn't have the time or money to do 3 seperate ones or so I heard.
i really feel sad for this movie. this isnt the real Alexander. alexander did many great things and he respected his enemies and their families.he cried when he saw darius dead body. and he shown respect to king cyrus grave. this movies doesnt show not even 10% from his life!!!:(
to have lived in such a time, with so much death, disease, famine, grief, sadness and war must have been terrible. but it was in such times that such heroes were born. If a man such as Alexander the Great was ever to exist again, I hope I would have the courage to follow him if he called me to
@m05mrc00 The persian empire was several times bigger than the roman republic during the punic wars. The persian army lacked quality but compensated it with huge numbers.
@painappele The persian empire was several times bigger than the roman republic during the punic wars. The persian army lacked quality but compensated it with huge numbers.
@1999521 During the punic wars rome was not large yet.. It grew after those wars. But you are correct in that the persian army compensated with numbers.
many believe that the persian army was a big nothing. that this isnt true. of course it was no match for the greek armies, but persians had some good units too. horse archers and the imortals for example...10000 elit soldiers and the milofori(aple bearers) the elit of the imortal guard...
they also had many gold to pay thoysands of mercenaries from all around the world.
@kryptia1980 You´re right, not all soldiers in the persian army were low quality. But as you said, probably the best soldiers in the army were the mercenaries (greek mercenaries, of course).
And Porus´s army, with thousands of soldiers, 200 elephants and hundreds of chariots, was surely fearsome.
yes the elit of the mercenaries in the persian army , were greeks. but if you read persian history, they were a huge empire that had conquered many nations, some of them real wild...not good soldiers, but nice fighters...brutal fighters..
with the add of the greek mercenaries, the egyptian navy and the horse archers from the north-eastern nations and tribes, the persian army was very capable..
@kryptia1980 Yes, I know that. I´m not a huge fan of persian history, but Alexander is my favorite general so I´ve read a lot about his campaings. Undobtedly, the persians were a hard enemy. Only a military genius could defeat the persian empire in such a little time, and with the resources and manpower Alexander disposed. And without losing a single battle.
However, we must admit that Darius was a noob. Porus and Memnon were worthy opponents, though. Spitamenes too.
i am not fan o persian history too, but if i had to read about my history, i had to read about a part of their history too...
Alexander was a briliant general and tacticion and a very brave man. but i must say that king Fillip was also a great king. great patriot and also a profesional soldier!
his vision of unify the greek tribes and invade persia was great! he studied the thevan phalanx and also the persian army. and i think that he already knew about persia a lot, because
@painappele That's a really bad logic. Alexander is one of the few undefeated generals. Have a look at the difference between Persian Empire and Greece. And Greece was not even united! God knows what kind of Empire Alexander could have carved out if only he had Spartan support.
alexander had little suport from the dorian greeks and almost none from ionians.
spartans didnt participate, half of athenians were against him(and half of the ionian cities in asia minor) and theves-his greates rival, was devastated by him!
if greece was unifed 100 years before his birth, i believe he could had conquer even china!!!
first of all, alexander wasnt a general. he was a king. sorry, a GOD in earth!
many generals, oficers and even soldiers, can claim to be undefeated, from their point of view..
only Alexander crushed such an empire as persia, without lose not even one battle and the same time, fighting in the first line of the battle with his men.
he was the bigest military genius the world ever saw, and even hanibal, pyrros and julius caesar recognized this fact
@kryptia1980 Well this is one God who died very young. To call him a God is pretty sad tbh. And he was a general first, consider how long he actually spent in his Kingdom. His childhood really. He was a general alot longer than he was a king.
And no, its a historical fact that other generals have never been defeated. Suvarov, Zizka, Washington, Khālid ibn al-Walīd, Epaminondas, Shaka Zulu and many more.
king is not a person who live inside a palace and gather taxes and command other to be his puppets...
KING is someone who carry all the responsibility to make his nation better and safe.
leonidas was king. filip was king. alexander was king...
darius was a tyrant.
in our language, the word King is "vasilias". from the words vasi(base)+ laos(people). king is the person that all nation can trust him that he will do his best to help them.
@kryptia1980 And Suvorov and Khalid and Washington all maintained a much larger area of land than Alexander ever did. Maybe that's because he died early, but then again according to the Greeks, 'there was nothing left to conquer', so Alexander was probably done fighting. I think most would agree that hierarchy decides who is king. Using Leonidas as a king is not accurate. The Spartans had a much different system. They had 2 kings. Kings can be tyrants too.
@Katazka Khalid and Washington lost battles, although they were victorious in their wars. Epaminondas never lost but died in battle (mantinea). I don´t know about Shaka but he was a tribal leader, don´t know if you can rank him as a "general".
Suvorov and Ziska were never defeated, that´s true, But Alexander was better because he conquered a much bigger empire, and he ruled it, because he was a king. And he did it all at a younger age.
@1999521 There are many more generals, alot of them royalty who were undefeated although those I mentioned fought the most battles. And Suvorov and Khalid and Washington all maintained a much larger area of land than Alexander ever did. A general is really anyone who can be seen to lead and direct a military force. Vercingtorix of the Gauls led a Gallic tribe but even the Romans considered him a great general. Probably one of the best, but he ended up against Julius Caeser.
His man had enough. Hannibal had tactics but wasnt smart enough to approach his victories. and lost at battle of Zama. Caesar was murdered for not being alert. Beware the ides of march. Alexander died of natural cause and when he did his empire crumbled. He had major dreams of conquering more of the known world. like Rome. Imagine if he did??
Alexander was indeed one of the best general in history. Not to mention Hannibal from Carthage or Caesar from rome. But ALEXANDER has to be the best because he was always outnumbered in battles and triumph. he used his tactics to defeat the enemy like here in the battle of gaugamela, and his siege at tyre, not to mention the battle of hydaspes river with the indians. He didnt lose there he withdraw after the major battle. ppl think he lost that battle and didnt. He withdraw
@xBxLxIxNxDx You keep typing u have blond hair with blue eyes ? what is ur point dude ? are you happy that u have those kind of things do u still think you live in 1940s.Grow up
@xBxLxIxNxDx You should keep ur mouth close because nobody cares about ur ideas and how u think about other races. iam white but i have respect for other races.you dont even dont know what makes people to have color hair and blue eyes. and i think u should start from elementry school because u still thinking like an idiot child who dont know anything.and aryan race is nothing to do with having blue eyes and blond hair.Learn these stuff. idiot
@LJITLOML They are called slingers, used by the Macedonians and many armies of the ancient world as support troops. Getting hit in the eye is a painful way to go.
Unlike nowadays where the enemy can kill you from hundreds of meters away with rifles...or even longer with other weaponry...I can't imagine how it must've felt back then to see your own friends and comrades killing and being killed all around you with the enemy literally before you. I'm sure it can affect people in many different ways, but the one soldier's scream at 2:36 says a lot.
@zahos1994 You have no idea what history is, back then Macedonia was a very powerful state of Greece. I think you should crack a book and then decide to weigh in clod. Talk to others that way, especially about Americans... be careful...
@zahos1994 You are proud to be greek and macedonian? ROFL. dude the new Macedons are nothing but gypsies and have nothing to do with The old Macedons. And the new Greeks are also not like the old one's.
@cfcyusuf11 lol what bullshit comment is this? all ancient peoples are different nowadays, the only thing that never changed is CULTURE, you cannot deny ancient Greek culture in todays Greece.
@zenzation23 Then watch your retarded ass, dont come up to me and argue about being proud of being Greek/Macedonian... if they aint the same as you noted.
@cfcyusuf11 you're stupid, cultures don't change, the people change but the culture doesn't, in Greece they still make bags out of the stomach of a goat
@buyukyarak200 Actually the classical greeks came from the north, in what would become Dacia. They were called the Dorians, they invaded soon after the colapse of the Mycanaean greeksin the thirteenth century BC. This is the greek dark age. perhaps there was some inter breeding with peoples from Asia minor, but on the whole greeks were western. I mean the romans were decended from people who lived in asia minor, perhaps Troy, I mean youve probalby heard of Aeneas who survived Troy.
@xBxLxIxNxDx i agree with you that too much immigration is bad, we should stop too many non natives from coming into our countries, but at the end of the day, if they can offer our countries a solid profession or skill they should be allowed stay, we should invest money into their countries when this recession ends, so that in the future they will not have to migrate here en-masse, and Europe will remain fairly as you want it to be, because lets face it we did cause a lot of their problems.
@xBxLxIxNxDx this isnt about race at all, its about beliefs. All man is born with equal intelligence, strength, and dignity, but it is beliefs that will make him inferiior. For instance look at islam, a religion that follows a book whose later part preaches death to all infidels, of every race and creed. Hence islam is the enemy of all mankind, and if i were you id be more focused on joining with your fellow man of any race, to remove this mental disease from europe.
@kilbara12 Hey, when you're in a battle and there's someone bearing down on you, ya gotta use whatever's on hand at the moment, whether it's a sword or someone's head.
old helen peolple call the old macedonian barabar this mean no helen people...now they call in this fucking film greks?!strange..they wasen t grek but old albanian people and dac..+thrak..
@xBxLxIxNxDx Damn, why we didn't get rid of your kin back then i'll never know. Go preach somewhere else nazi, we're here to talk about Alexander and Guagamela, not about your final soulution to eradicate minorities from an entire continent.
@xBxLxIxNxDx Damn, why we didn't get rid of your kin back then i'll never know. Go preach somewhere else nazi, we're here to talk about Alexander and Guagamela, not about your final soulution to eradicate minorities from an entire continent.
@xBxLxIxNxDx O my bad, your one of those neo-nazis in austria. I'm sorry your grandaddy lost but don't take it out on the people of the world. Go to one of your hate meetings so you can talk about how the "master race" will take over the world
@xBxLxIxNxDx Well mabye you should build a time machine and move to Nazi Germany where they like your kind. The USA was made for all races, not just yours. And i find it funny you don't mention hispanic immigrants wgo are the majority who are emmigrating to America... oh wait i forgot their ancestors are from Europe so i guess they are superior too right.
@xBxLxIxNxDx Your right, i wouldn't want you to forget that the egyptians and babylonians invented the battery to light the passageways in their pyramids, while your Celtic ancestors were still having trouble making their little twig huts and wearing wolf skins.
@xBxLxIxNxDx Hey buddy, lemme remind you that euros came from asia, and while your superior race was figting its holy war, the chinese had invented gunpowder and paper, the Seljuk Empire had invented Algebra and the first medical schools, and the Mali Empire became one of the richest empires in the world at that time. It took you guys centuries to catch up... and when you did you mainly just copied the ideas of the peoples who you claim to be better than.
I think it's kind of sweet that the man who wrote the biography this movie was based off of waved his on screen name rights to be apart of the charge of Alexander and the Companions. There's a man who really cares about history.
@xBxLxIxNxDx I'm afraid the greeks were NOT of caucasian stock...sorry to break your fantasy. =] The so-called "white people" are in fact of germanic and (to a much lesser extent) la-tene celtic descent... Blond hair and white skin is merely a late romantic depiction by 18th century artists...
surely moving apart for the chariots at 0:30 is the worst thing to do? I'm pretty sure horses wouldn't run straight into a wall of spears
tlawton49 3 weeks ago
@tlawton49 You can train them to do so.
Communist1986 2 weeks ago
@tlawton49 The macedonians had this tactic: The front half of the phalanx splits in two and moved appart to both sides. Then, the rear half points the sarissas to the scythed chariots slowing them down. Then, the split front half closes, forming a sort of trap.
haveajerk 2 weeks ago
1:26 The guy holding the pike is now thinking "Dammit, there's a dude stuck on my pike now. Could someone please pull that off?"
Ganthan 1 month ago
Awesome battle, realistically brutal.
BVargas78 1 month ago
This movie combined 3 of alexander biggest battles: grancius, issus and gauagamela.
e.h thight wound was sustained at issus, alexander being saved by cleitus the black was at granicus, visting wounded trrops after issus.
mattg109 2 months ago
7:43 Darius inflicting friendly fire on his own people while escaping with his scythe chariot!
supersmash43 3 months ago
@supersmash43 because his men were slaves to him. At issus he fled and left behind along with all his riches, his mother, wife and daughter! WHat a coward indeed.
mattg109 2 months ago
This battle is pretty historically accurately portrayed and epic!
supersmash43 3 months ago
Greek : 6:47 stab me in the back, Persian!? Oh wait! I have a curiass protecting me!
Persian: Oh shit! I just forgot about the torso armor!
(Greek proceeds to stab Persian to death)
supersmash43 3 months ago 3
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BUT IF WE CAPTURE HIM WE GAIN AN EMPIRE!!!!!!!
sal334 3 months ago 2
This movie well depicted just how fucking confusing a battle is.
Anonie324 3 months ago 9
im glad they showed the guy pissin himself findin redemption in the heart of the battle man that was a good touch i wish the rest of this trash fucking movie was as good as this
stump229 4 months ago
I don't understand why Darius' Immortal guards and center infantry couldn't counter Alexander's attempt to drive a wedge in the Persian center. They should have been able to repel the strike down the middle...It must have been Darius' nervousness and lack of ability to see his flanks were still holding.
A2Kaid 4 months ago
Wow, Alexander is the leader of Greece but he still leads his men into combat and fights with them. Now that's a commander.
777crusader 4 months ago
@777crusader Alexander is leader of Macedonia (? - sorry for my language), Greeks were conquered by Philip I.
szczepaniak39 4 months ago
@szczepaniak39 Philip I (Cheronea) - 328 before Ch.
szczepaniak39 4 months ago
@szczepaniak39 and Alexander inherited his ftahers kingdom on his death. He was also hegemon of the league of corinth (most greek states bar sparta were in this league) so therefore he leads 'greece' or most of the greek states on a conquest to destroy the persian empire
mattg109 2 months ago
I just noticed that at 2:30 the young soldier fighting alongside Crateros is the same who upset him by pissing himself before the battle.
Aechis 4 months ago
People interested in other great commanders of history should look up Alexander Suvorov, who commanded Russian forces in the French Revolutionary and early Napoleonic wars. He also never lost a battle and was a great field commander.
umjackd 5 months ago
@umjackd famed for saying "the bullet is an idiot, the bayonet, a fine fellow"
lstarbuck20 3 months ago
@lstarbuck20 Because the bullet can miss, but in the right hands the bayonet never can. :)
umjackd 3 months ago
He cuts off a guys head and beats a person in the face with.
Also at 5:10 does he get his knee cut, or the whole knee cap itself severed off?!
PSYCOMETAL 5 months ago
@PSYCOMETAL Looks like his knee cap was smashed off the joint. Nasty!
Muntman 4 months ago
I agree faleru. Alexander the Great was perhaps the greatest Commander in all of history. I think what he did with the resouces he had, plus what we all interprete as an incredible gamble was to him, in his genious, a very sensible risk for a worthy gain. He knew for a long time that he could defeat Darius in direct battle.
bartlebyonline 5 months ago
the only word i understood from darius's side was yala.
joey143anna 6 months ago
galing ni alexander the great
stalin944 6 months ago
lol @ darius' face 3:15
black00dice 6 months ago
The phalanx is just cool!
LimeyK 6 months ago
Darius never blinks LOL
CookieMMMonster 6 months ago
ridiculous question: does anyone know what the macedonian infantry are chanting as they march in unison in the phalanx? myself being a marine, i find it very motivating. i've always wondered, ever since i saw the movie for the first time.
DanSelli1 7 months ago
@DanSelli1, Enyalios. Apparently another Greek name for Ares.
aceblazer25 7 months ago
@DanSelli1 Enyalius, another name for Ares
black00dice 6 months ago
1:30...got one
MonSiGart 7 months ago
I love how that one guy managed to take down a mounted enemy with a sling and a stone... badass!
Snowman20 7 months ago
@Snowman20 slings are actually pretty deadly. I've seen them in use by shepherds in Tibet, it was scary powerful at hurling a half-fist sized stone, could easily kill a man.
boogisboogis 5 months ago
@boogisboogis i've been slinging for 3 years and the person in the movie at 1:27 is really good compared to other movies. if it was real and he was that good of a shot he could have easily killed the man
xxkid123 5 months ago
persians are pretty ballsy running into spears like that
cozos 7 months ago
@cozos No choice when you're running shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of other men and can't move left or right, and you'll be pushed from behind if you try and stop. You just gotta hope you're in a perfect spot where you can move between the spears if possible or be further down the line or rows.
Snowman20 7 months ago
Best battle scene!!!
Strategos300 7 months ago
6:48 lol why didnt that persian execute him??
pepinozinanasshole 8 months ago
@pepinozinanasshole
He hit at the armour and the armour stopped the blade.
Pikkabuu 8 months ago
@Pikkabuu yeah it wouldnt penetrate because of a bad angle
D3ltaH3adSh0tz1997 7 months ago
@pepinozinanasshole Because he is a son Enyalius, a Macedonian
black00dice 6 months ago
The Late Achaemenid Persians didn't had Immortals, that would be the earlier incarnation of Persians who fought the Greeks over 100 years before Alexander.
realmehrunes 9 months ago
does darius know the term "out-flanking'? that is the primary weakness of the phalanx and he just sends his cavalry right up against their spears. god, i think i coulda done a better job than darius. i dont think i would win the battle but i woulda do a better job.
imhungry4444 9 months ago
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maximuslaurius 7 months ago
@imhungry4444
In the real battle Alexander knew he could be outflanked, so he stationed a reserve phalanx behind the main one. Alexander's strategy actually depended on Darius trying to outflank him, thus creating a gap in his line.
maximuslaurius 7 months ago 9
This is one of the best depictions of ancient combat ever done by Hollywood. Quick, brutal, and confusing...
zzman305 9 months ago
@zzman305 pretty much a huge brawl in this film isn't it
TheRugbyfullback 9 months ago
Those red tunic guys, one who hits Alexander at 6:08, and another who attempts to cut his throat at 6:17, r those guys Immortals?
Doomhammer15 9 months ago
@Doomhammer15 i done't think so... they would have carried bows with them cos they used bow spear and shield, which is why they are a great troop to have
TheRugbyfullback 9 months ago
@TheRugbyfullback So The Immortals are the Beige color hooded warriors like the dude who stabs Hephaestion at 6:47?
Doomhammer15 9 months ago
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Doomhammer15 9 months ago
@Doomhammer15 well they should of won this battle, it was a wide plane which is perfect for the persian chariots they have plenty more infantry so they could of out flanked the enemy, darius should of crushed them...
TheRugbyfullback 9 months ago
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@TheRugbyfullback And the red/green tunic dude with the funny caps, as i mention before are the Cardaces (Persian Infantry), is that right? cause i'm interest in Persian Battle formation and their fighting tactic, sorry if i asked too much question, Thanx!
Doomhammer15 9 months ago
@Doomhammer15 i don't think so, i didn't see them carry bows
black00dice 6 months ago
In the holy Kuran Alexander is mentioned as a Greek king, he is not Albanian or Slav, dont let those Slav trolls fool you.
zenzation23 10 months ago
Is this Guagamela or Granicus. I am confused because it was in Granicus that alexander was saved.
fragitza 10 months ago
@fragitza I actually think in this movie they somewhat combined the battles of Granicus, Isis, and Gaugemela into one giant battle since they didn't have the time or money to do 3 seperate ones or so I heard.
Pulsar718 9 months ago
@Pulsar718 Ah what a shame.
fragitza 9 months ago
thanks youtube for reinforcing my belief that most people are illiterate fucks
aldeberaan 10 months ago
Awkward editing....the theatrical version is better
wanrazul 10 months ago
I would totaly die like the persian at 6:45
TonyBurrito 10 months ago
YES!!!!!
ALEXANDER IS THE BEST WARRIOR!!!!
tauronamin 10 months ago
I cant hear what the young man says at the end can someone tell me?
OLO992 10 months ago
@OLO992 he says your majesty. hope that helps ;)
jaspertheking4life 10 months ago
Φίλε μπράβο!Δεν ήξερα καν ότι υπάρχει αυτή η έκδοση.Άψογος!
tolaros2 1 year ago
Thank you so much for posting this I have been looking for revisited for a long time ty!
OLO992 1 year ago
You can to the end of the Earth you coward! But you'll never run far enough!
faleru 1 year ago
The greatest commander in history; undefeated and always led his army from the front =P
faleru 1 year ago 15
@faleru They didn't lose in India? Against Porus? Alexander was badly wounded.
slamer2000 7 months ago
@slamer2000 No, they won. Took heavy causalties, but Porus was defeated
faleru 7 months ago
@faleru
Porus was also captured.
Strange they'd dishonor Alexander.
WolfytheWolf5667 6 months ago
i really feel sad for this movie. this isnt the real Alexander. alexander did many great things and he respected his enemies and their families.he cried when he saw darius dead body. and he shown respect to king cyrus grave. this movies doesnt show not even 10% from his life!!!:(
kryptia1980 1 year ago
HE WAS A GENIUS
CRISTIANORELAX 1 year ago
those shield-bearers and peltasts must have been helluva fit to keep up on foot with Alexander and his companions
Thongger 1 year ago
@Thongger
they were his special forces. the "silver shield-bearers"
kryptia1980 1 year ago
That Boeotian saved his life... you're welcome
pauta9 1 year ago
BUT IF WE CAPTURE HIM WE GAIN AN EMPIRE!!!!!!!
sal334 1 year ago 18
to have lived in such a time, with so much death, disease, famine, grief, sadness and war must have been terrible. but it was in such times that such heroes were born. If a man such as Alexander the Great was ever to exist again, I hope I would have the courage to follow him if he called me to
Thongger 1 year ago
glorious GREECE
m05mrc00 1 year ago
@m05mrc00 The persian empire was several times bigger than the roman republic during the punic wars. The persian army lacked quality but compensated it with huge numbers.
1999521 1 year ago
Hanibal was the best general but Alexander had luck and shity oponents
painappele 1 year ago
@painappele The persian empire was several times bigger than the roman republic during the punic wars. The persian army lacked quality but compensated it with huge numbers.
1999521 1 year ago
@1999521 During the punic wars rome was not large yet.. It grew after those wars. But you are correct in that the persian army compensated with numbers.
megapizzaplanet 1 year ago
@1999521
many believe that the persian army was a big nothing. that this isnt true. of course it was no match for the greek armies, but persians had some good units too. horse archers and the imortals for example...10000 elit soldiers and the milofori(aple bearers) the elit of the imortal guard...
they also had many gold to pay thoysands of mercenaries from all around the world.
but we won all of them
kryptia1980 1 year ago
@kryptia1980 You´re right, not all soldiers in the persian army were low quality. But as you said, probably the best soldiers in the army were the mercenaries (greek mercenaries, of course).
And Porus´s army, with thousands of soldiers, 200 elephants and hundreds of chariots, was surely fearsome.
1999521 1 year ago
@1999521
yes the elit of the mercenaries in the persian army , were greeks. but if you read persian history, they were a huge empire that had conquered many nations, some of them real wild...not good soldiers, but nice fighters...brutal fighters..
with the add of the greek mercenaries, the egyptian navy and the horse archers from the north-eastern nations and tribes, the persian army was very capable..
kryptia1980 1 year ago
@kryptia1980 Yes, I know that. I´m not a huge fan of persian history, but Alexander is my favorite general so I´ve read a lot about his campaings. Undobtedly, the persians were a hard enemy. Only a military genius could defeat the persian empire in such a little time, and with the resources and manpower Alexander disposed. And without losing a single battle.
However, we must admit that Darius was a noob. Porus and Memnon were worthy opponents, though. Spitamenes too.
1999521 1 year ago
@1999521
i am not fan o persian history too, but if i had to read about my history, i had to read about a part of their history too...
Alexander was a briliant general and tacticion and a very brave man. but i must say that king Fillip was also a great king. great patriot and also a profesional soldier!
his vision of unify the greek tribes and invade persia was great! he studied the thevan phalanx and also the persian army. and i think that he already knew about persia a lot, because
kryptia1980 1 year ago
@1999521
it was well known how easy the "myriads" made their "walk" inside persian empire:)
kryptia1980 1 year ago
@painappele but hannibal watched the battle from far away like a pussy
buddyguy340 1 year ago
@painappele That's a really bad logic. Alexander is one of the few undefeated generals. Have a look at the difference between Persian Empire and Greece. And Greece was not even united! God knows what kind of Empire Alexander could have carved out if only he had Spartan support.
Katazka 1 year ago
@Katazka
the only undefeted!
alexander had little suport from the dorian greeks and almost none from ionians.
spartans didnt participate, half of athenians were against him(and half of the ionian cities in asia minor) and theves-his greates rival, was devastated by him!
if greece was unifed 100 years before his birth, i believe he could had conquer even china!!!
he was a GOD
kryptia1980 1 year ago
@kryptia1980 He was not the only undefeated. Suvarov, Zizka, Washington and a few other generals were all undefeated.
Katazka 1 year ago
@Katazka
first of all, alexander wasnt a general. he was a king. sorry, a GOD in earth!
many generals, oficers and even soldiers, can claim to be undefeated, from their point of view..
only Alexander crushed such an empire as persia, without lose not even one battle and the same time, fighting in the first line of the battle with his men.
he was the bigest military genius the world ever saw, and even hanibal, pyrros and julius caesar recognized this fact
kryptia1980 1 year ago
@kryptia1980 Well this is one God who died very young. To call him a God is pretty sad tbh. And he was a general first, consider how long he actually spent in his Kingdom. His childhood really. He was a general alot longer than he was a king.
And no, its a historical fact that other generals have never been defeated. Suvarov, Zizka, Washington, Khālid ibn al-Walīd, Epaminondas, Shaka Zulu and many more.
Katazka 1 year ago
@Katazka
he wasnt a god because he was immortal, my friend. but because he did all he did in HIS age...!!! can u imagine that?
and at that time, a king had nothing to do with kings of medieval or later years...
a king in antiquity, was a great general or a great leader or a great fighter.
the meaning of "king" has been changed nowdays...
Alexander died 33 years old but he lived more than all theese men you say, together!
he was a "superman" who walked in our planet
kryptia1980 1 year ago
@Katazka
king is not a person who live inside a palace and gather taxes and command other to be his puppets...
KING is someone who carry all the responsibility to make his nation better and safe.
leonidas was king. filip was king. alexander was king...
darius was a tyrant.
in our language, the word King is "vasilias". from the words vasi(base)+ laos(people). king is the person that all nation can trust him that he will do his best to help them.
alexander lived more years far from his land but
kryptia1980 1 year ago
@Katazka
but he was a real king, because he fight and died for his men
kryptia1980 1 year ago
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@kryptia1980 And Suvorov and Khalid and Washington all maintained a much larger area of land than Alexander ever did. Maybe that's because he died early, but then again according to the Greeks, 'there was nothing left to conquer', so Alexander was probably done fighting. I think most would agree that hierarchy decides who is king. Using Leonidas as a king is not accurate. The Spartans had a much different system. They had 2 kings. Kings can be tyrants too.
Katazka 1 year ago
@Katazka Khalid and Washington lost battles, although they were victorious in their wars. Epaminondas never lost but died in battle (mantinea). I don´t know about Shaka but he was a tribal leader, don´t know if you can rank him as a "general".
Suvorov and Ziska were never defeated, that´s true, But Alexander was better because he conquered a much bigger empire, and he ruled it, because he was a king. And he did it all at a younger age.
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Katazka 1 year ago
@1999521 There are many more generals, alot of them royalty who were undefeated although those I mentioned fought the most battles. And Suvorov and Khalid and Washington all maintained a much larger area of land than Alexander ever did. A general is really anyone who can be seen to lead and direct a military force. Vercingtorix of the Gauls led a Gallic tribe but even the Romans considered him a great general. Probably one of the best, but he ended up against Julius Caeser.
Katazka 1 year ago
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JimmySteller 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx oh ok. keep it up maybe you can do something about it in future. lol
xXMahdadXx 1 year ago
His man had enough. Hannibal had tactics but wasnt smart enough to approach his victories. and lost at battle of Zama. Caesar was murdered for not being alert. Beware the ides of march. Alexander died of natural cause and when he did his empire crumbled. He had major dreams of conquering more of the known world. like Rome. Imagine if he did??
ecuaroger88 1 year ago
Alexander was indeed one of the best general in history. Not to mention Hannibal from Carthage or Caesar from rome. But ALEXANDER has to be the best because he was always outnumbered in battles and triumph. he used his tactics to defeat the enemy like here in the battle of gaugamela, and his siege at tyre, not to mention the battle of hydaspes river with the indians. He didnt lose there he withdraw after the major battle. ppl think he lost that battle and didnt. He withdraw
ecuaroger88 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx You keep typing u have blond hair with blue eyes ? what is ur point dude ? are you happy that u have those kind of things do u still think you live in 1940s.Grow up
xXMahdadXx 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx You should keep ur mouth close because nobody cares about ur ideas and how u think about other races. iam white but i have respect for other races.you dont even dont know what makes people to have color hair and blue eyes. and i think u should start from elementry school because u still thinking like an idiot child who dont know anything.and aryan race is nothing to do with having blue eyes and blond hair.Learn these stuff. idiot
xXMahdadXx 1 year ago
I bet alexander was thinking
"Charging straight to the front of my spear? Even my grandmom's strategy can beat the persian"
TWL012 1 year ago
To be honest,I don't understand what was the persian king thinking.
The enemy got spears in the front, and order your man Charge straight front for it!?
I am sure alexander's grandmum is a better strategist than the persian :/
TWL012 1 year ago
@TWL012 That's essentially how immortal were used. Just waves and waves of men.
Ariminua 1 year ago
I am Alexander
redfield18 1 year ago 2
@redfield18 Haha, so you say you are Alexander. Very funny, very funny indeed.
Calucifer13 1 year ago
holyshit bolo throwers. how real is that.
LJITLOML 1 year ago
@LJITLOML They are called slingers, used by the Macedonians and many armies of the ancient world as support troops. Getting hit in the eye is a painful way to go.
scyther999 1 year ago
2:36
Unlike nowadays where the enemy can kill you from hundreds of meters away with rifles...or even longer with other weaponry...I can't imagine how it must've felt back then to see your own friends and comrades killing and being killed all around you with the enemy literally before you. I'm sure it can affect people in many different ways, but the one soldier's scream at 2:36 says a lot.
mdbum 1 year ago
COME MACEDONIANS! RIDE!! RIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
TheNytdj 1 year ago 4
I LOVE DARIUS!! his eyes and his sweet face...SXY!!
blackcherrywoman 1 year ago
i get chills evertime i watch alexander and his cavalry turn around
tocoro888 1 year ago
i am proud to be Greek and Macedonian!
zahos1994 1 year ago 3
@zahos1994 greece an macedonia are the same now? ...where's macedonia?? what happened to that country?
blackcherrywoman 1 year ago
@blackcherrywoman
f@@@ing American shit there is no country of Macedonia,these are Slavs, the real Macedonia is in norther greece, learn some history and then talk.
zahos1994 1 year ago 19
@zahos1994 there's no need to be rude dude.. but thnx for answering
blackcherrywoman 1 year ago
PATRIDA POSA XRONIA ISTORIAS EXEI I AMERIKI KAI MILA I KOURADA
Adamakis1979 1 year ago
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Pulsar718 9 months ago
@zahos1994 You have no idea what history is, back then Macedonia was a very powerful state of Greece. I think you should crack a book and then decide to weigh in clod. Talk to others that way, especially about Americans... be careful...
TheAndyOf1 9 months ago
@zahos1994 100% correct, at least some one knows history
clipmaster30001 8 months ago
@zahos1994 You are proud to be greek and macedonian? ROFL. dude the new Macedons are nothing but gypsies and have nothing to do with The old Macedons. And the new Greeks are also not like the old one's.
cfcyusuf11 11 months ago
@cfcyusuf11 lol what bullshit comment is this? all ancient peoples are different nowadays, the only thing that never changed is CULTURE, you cannot deny ancient Greek culture in todays Greece.
zenzation23 11 months ago
@zenzation23 I don't care about culture as the people aint the same AT ALL
cfcyusuf11 11 months ago
@cfcyusuf11 Of course they arent, people change because times change DOH.
zenzation23 11 months ago
@zenzation23 Then watch your retarded ass, dont come up to me and argue about being proud of being Greek/Macedonian... if they aint the same as you noted.
cfcyusuf11 11 months ago
@cfcyusuf11 you're stupid, cultures don't change, the people change but the culture doesn't, in Greece they still make bags out of the stomach of a goat
abrozak1 10 months ago
@abrozak1 Making bag out of stomach aint making Gypsies greek. Nuff said.
cfcyusuf11 10 months ago
@cfcyusuf11 gypsies aren't greek, in fact greeks tend to lean away from the retards, probably why you hate them
abrozak1 10 months ago
@abrozak1 I don't hate Gypsies. But its sick that nowadays Gypsies call themselves Macedonian (ancient one's).
cfcyusuf11 10 months ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx you are just a stupid cunt who knows nothing about history, Greeks have a oriental history not western you stupid fuck.
buyukyarak200 1 year ago
@buyukyarak200 Actually the classical greeks came from the north, in what would become Dacia. They were called the Dorians, they invaded soon after the colapse of the Mycanaean greeksin the thirteenth century BC. This is the greek dark age. perhaps there was some inter breeding with peoples from Asia minor, but on the whole greeks were western. I mean the romans were decended from people who lived in asia minor, perhaps Troy, I mean youve probalby heard of Aeneas who survived Troy.
rocketman34000 1 year ago
@rocketman34000 its still a terrible movie, the persian soldiers looked like arabs in this movie, thats a shame mate.
buyukyarak200 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx i agree with you that too much immigration is bad, we should stop too many non natives from coming into our countries, but at the end of the day, if they can offer our countries a solid profession or skill they should be allowed stay, we should invest money into their countries when this recession ends, so that in the future they will not have to migrate here en-masse, and Europe will remain fairly as you want it to be, because lets face it we did cause a lot of their problems.
theworldisfucked1 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx this isnt about race at all, its about beliefs. All man is born with equal intelligence, strength, and dignity, but it is beliefs that will make him inferiior. For instance look at islam, a religion that follows a book whose later part preaches death to all infidels, of every race and creed. Hence islam is the enemy of all mankind, and if i were you id be more focused on joining with your fellow man of any race, to remove this mental disease from europe.
theworldisfucked1 1 year ago
6:35 was that really necessary?
kilbara12 1 year ago
@kilbara12 Hey, when you're in a battle and there's someone bearing down on you, ya gotta use whatever's on hand at the moment, whether it's a sword or someone's head.
Ganthan 1 month ago
old helen peolple call the old macedonian barabar this mean no helen people...now they call in this fucking film greks?!strange..they wasen t grek but old albanian people and dac..+thrak..
pellumbaballinj 1 year ago
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WTF was he doing at 5:02?
schergerbear 1 year ago
WTF was he doinf at 5:02?
schergerbear 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx Damn, why we didn't get rid of your kin back then i'll never know. Go preach somewhere else nazi, we're here to talk about Alexander and Guagamela, not about your final soulution to eradicate minorities from an entire continent.
Spartanof2012 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx Damn, why we didn't get rid of your kin back then i'll never know. Go preach somewhere else nazi, we're here to talk about Alexander and Guagamela, not about your final soulution to eradicate minorities from an entire continent.
Spartanof2012 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx O my bad, your one of those neo-nazis in austria. I'm sorry your grandaddy lost but don't take it out on the people of the world. Go to one of your hate meetings so you can talk about how the "master race" will take over the world
Spartanof2012 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx Well mabye you should build a time machine and move to Nazi Germany where they like your kind. The USA was made for all races, not just yours. And i find it funny you don't mention hispanic immigrants wgo are the majority who are emmigrating to America... oh wait i forgot their ancestors are from Europe so i guess they are superior too right.
Spartanof2012 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx Your right, i wouldn't want you to forget that the egyptians and babylonians invented the battery to light the passageways in their pyramids, while your Celtic ancestors were still having trouble making their little twig huts and wearing wolf skins.
Spartanof2012 1 year ago
3:07 lololol
TheNytdj 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx Hey buddy, lemme remind you that euros came from asia, and while your superior race was figting its holy war, the chinese had invented gunpowder and paper, the Seljuk Empire had invented Algebra and the first medical schools, and the Mali Empire became one of the richest empires in the world at that time. It took you guys centuries to catch up... and when you did you mainly just copied the ideas of the peoples who you claim to be better than.
Spartanof2012 1 year ago
I think it's kind of sweet that the man who wrote the biography this movie was based off of waved his on screen name rights to be apart of the charge of Alexander and the Companions. There's a man who really cares about history.
patsfreak 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx no shit sherlock!
08keels 1 year ago
Exactly what wrote historian Diodorus from Cicely...exactly.....viva Oliver Stone
lefkaros1 1 year ago
OMG i always wanted to see the phalanx in action
1937ninjaboy 1 year ago 30
@1937ninjaboy
this is the thevan phalanx, coppied by the macedonians. it is a little bit diferent than the spartan phalanx.
the macedonian phalanx was used more for defence (while the cavalry use to attack from behind).
the spartan and athenian phalanx were more offensive "weapons". specially the spartans, they had become masters of "pushing"
kryptia1980 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx I'm afraid the greeks were NOT of caucasian stock...sorry to break your fantasy. =] The so-called "white people" are in fact of germanic and (to a much lesser extent) la-tene celtic descent... Blond hair and white skin is merely a late romantic depiction by 18th century artists...
satalexton 1 year ago
@satalexton Greeks are White People and Caucasian not only Germanic and part of Kelts are "White" that is ridiicolous as it sounds
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
fuckin sheet,bunch of lies
kiarashbo 1 year ago
@xBxLxIxNxDx I dunno, the Greek economy isn't exactly doing great right now when compared to the Saudis or Kuwait LOL.
AndrewMann552 1 year ago
Best Battle scene of all time
Reyes00 1 year ago
It is the one good scene in this film. Because there is no gay histories.
ComissarDreadnought 1 year ago
@ComissarDreadnought Alexander was homosexual if not bisexual like most of his countrymen were.
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
@ImperialGuard9001 ok....so what? You would like to have persons like him...in your poooooorrrr history....ciao barbarian
lefkaros1 1 year ago