The most tricky part when driving hackney horse William

[Hudson2012]

wow beautiful place!

[Chessire1]

i love how he stays calm and just keeps telling him hoooo maaar and braaaaf zo. thats quite some patiente you need and its a good and stimulating way. really love that. btw im dutch too

[rianneiseenaap]

Is dit in velp soms? ik herken het :D!

[Equestrian08]

I always enjoy watching your videos. You seem like a very experienced and talented horseman. William is gorgeous! Keep up the great work!

[SanneChannel]

Je bent nederlands he?

Goed gedaan! :D

[xDjickox]

amazing horse!

[tenter07]

Take the blinkers off!

[lnix99]

I know this is an older video, so I hope you and William are having better luck at the start of your drives now!

[ponyangel1987]

Sounds like Holland to me ^^ Hey there -waves- Love your horse, and the way you tell him to calm down with the "goed zo", but don't you think repeating "ho maar" on and on kinda excites him? It worked me on my nerves so I put the sound off XD But that's just me. I learnt a while ago that just pretending as if nothing is wrong and casually asking where he thinks he's going works better as the horse will be reasured there's nothing to be scared of. But I'm sure you know him best!

[IcePonyGoddess]

You are braver than me. Do you have any one who can help you with heading him? Stay safe!

[PinkCandyApple87]

William wilt niet wachten haha, hij wilt gewoon lopen :p haha.

Wat een knapperd!

[ukkepuk1992]

hey wissmisz hou jij is ff lekker je bakkus dicht . die man heeft grandioos veel bereikt met dat mooie dier. kijk eerst die andere filmpjes voor je je mond opentrekt. wat die man doet is puur horsemanship man . eindeloos veel geduld. je zou respect voor hem moeten hebben ipv commentaar leveren op hem .

[esiuol360girl19]

id be careful about having the headcollar round his neck like that when its tied, if he spooked he could have broken his neck :)

[9003Dani]

@esiuol360girl19 the chances of injuring his neck before the halter breaking is pretty slim

[esiuol360girl19]

@9003Dani i know, but ive seen it happen before :)

[TheChickadita]

Thats just how my hackney behaves half the time too ..... LOL

[WissMisz]

Als-ie dit vaker doet in het begin even door iemand vast laten houden want 'homaar homaar homaar' heeft niet zoveel zin ;-) Heel mooi paard hoor!

[minibling2071]

wow..he is very beautiful and very spirited...but yeah patients is the key hey...well done and thanks for showing us ...

[farmkatt38]

WOW SIR! Well done! You should help these two dummies in a video called "horse abuse in Poland". Before they get themselves killed or ruin the horse!

[DarkestroseEmz]

The headcolor around his neck at the beginning can break his neak if he freaks out...that'll be the end of him..

[Hantarrrrr]

You handled his excitability so calmly and gently, really good work. And such a beautiful horse!

[foundationdressage]

love all your videos and your wonderful horse William. My horse Majjur looks very like him though he is Morgan X Fresian, wish I had you close to train him to drive! :)

[licknsugar]

it is called a hitching post for a reason, and when you are working on your own... well sometimes you have to work with what you had... but hey maybe the yellow dog would have held his horse while he got on...

[licknsugar]

this is a great video, and great horsemanship, i drive a 13-2 hackney stallion, he is almost as jumpy about the whole"mounting" process, also, he settles very nicely as soon as i am settled and have hold, i love your videos. you horse is very nice.... i will also mention as i have been driving for over fourteen years, that when i am working alone with my horse, and often even when i have "helpers" i have and do tie my stallion to a stout hitching post and or a wall...

[UrbanPrincess95]

You should NEVER have your horse in shafts and tied up! Thats a big NO! You also need a groom to head your horse whilst you get onto the carriage, he's most likely doing this because he can't see whats happening and because theres no-one keeping him steady and calm.

[Saartje05]

@UrbanPrincess95 As you can it works perfectly. We all do that.

[zh11147]

there are restricters that tyou can attach to his legs so that he can only trot a certain way, plus, when he rears, you need to reach up and smack him, if he spooks, then you keep hold of the lines, and do not let him move!

[Saartje05]

@zh11147  Are you nuts?? That's animal abuse.

[Vishahn]

@Saartje05

How is the horse being abused in this video? From what I can see, this is an experienced driver handling a nervous or young horse calmly.

[Saartje05]

@Vishahn I never said it was animal abuse. I reacted to a reply of someone saying you should hit the horse. But the man on the video didn´t abuse the animal at all..

[DnBsPendulum]

he is absoloutly beautiful and u handle him amazingly.

[bellabelliboo]

Echt een prachtpaard, die William!! In welk gebied van Nederland bevindt U zich, als ik vragen mag? Het ziet er een mooie buurt uit... :)

[fancigal]

he is sooo very beautiful!!

[shamuluva]

Is the William from the "Flappy" video? William is GORGEOUS!

[natapoop301]

can u ride him???

[Kirritoo]

For anyone thinking of driving:

NEVER, EVER for any reason whatsoever, tie a horse up when harnessed!!!

NEVER.

It is SO incredibly dangerous I cannot express it in words.

To the maker of this video:

I know you are trying and I commend you, but you are not going about this the right way.

So many things you are doing are dangerous, it is setting a very bad example to people who might see this.

Please either change what you are doing or stop posting!

[PaardieMeisie]

@Kirritoo

Calm down :P Seriously.

[painthorselover101]

@Kirritoo its not dangerous to tie up a horse when its hooked on something. maybe YOU dont like it but many people do it. my granfather has been tying horses up after excersizing whilst still hitched for years and nothing has ever happened. i think its more dangerous to untie them!

also, leave the poster of the video alone! what he does with HIS horse is none of your bussiness!

[Kirritoo]

@painthorselover101

For crying out loud, if you put something up on a public domain like this OF COURSE it is my business! If you do not want derogatory comments then you should remove the comments option, otherwise you take what you get.

Tying up a hitched horse will get you a serious telling off by the ADS and an official warning if you do it again,

They do not do things like that for no reason, and I bow to their superior knowledge, rather than your banality.

[painthorselover101]

@Kirritoo well i'm sorry that you have no life that you feel you must patrol videos on youtube and make everything your bussiness. i dont give a shit what the ADS does because i was raised around pulling horses, where EVERYTHING is about safety. in my grandfathers 40yrs of pulling not once has anything bad happened by tying a hitched horse and i would trust him before some stuck up snobs i dont even know!

[painthorselover101]

@Kirritoo also, why not try talking from THIS CENTURY?? you sound like ur a freak from the 1800's for christ sake!

[Saartje05]

@Kirritoo What a complete nonsense, LOL. Listening to this man, you can hear he has a LOT of experience. And I don't know what ADS but they have nothing to say about how someone is training a horse. No one has. He's not abusing his animal at all. This man knows what he's doing.

[Saartje05]

I think you should wach the other video's of William too and then tell again the man is doing it wrong, lol

[ke4cpc]

My Perch does something similar to this. It's almost akin to the neurotic response dogs take on when you pick up the ball to throw. "Oh boy, I'm going to work! I gotta catch up with the other horses and OH BOY!"

[kaboomItsJess]

i drive a shire horse who does exactly the same thing.

we've tried calming him down but he gets so exciteable; we aren't sure if he has had bad experiences or not but he seems to enjoy himself. as soon as you leg go of his head when attaching him to the trap, he's off and we just jump on as quickly as we can.

well done on calming him down.

[MyScreamingObsession]

Mooi paard zeg! :)

[HeartFullOfBuckshot]

Haha strut your stuff William! XD

[lklik6]

Love the calm tone of your voice... looks like he just anticipates the "go" part.

[MysweetAnnabelle53]

he's like "OMG I'm gonna DIE" and then three minutes later "Oh, ok...this is cool" lol, luv him!

[trumparch]

the problem is that you keep ting him to smth and constantly keeping in fron of the wall while you doing anything to him, thats not the way to work harness horses

[qtrhorse89]

Wow he is certainly ready to go. Poor fella looks like he's had a rough time of it. Good of you to take him on and work with him. He's a gorgeous horse.

[hafjelinger]

Why are you alone??? That's very dangerous!! You have to be with two persons.

[jilliebillie8]

Ik vind het super hoe jij het doet. Geduld en rust houden, precies hoe het moet, super!

[breyerthinka]

feitelijk mis ik een groom hier die het paard vast kan houden tijdens het opstappen op de wagen.

[MollyHall135]

wow it takes some hardcore multitasking skills to do all of that plus holding a video camera... nice job

[GoatBlaat]

I'm glad you're a patient one with a horse who has quite an excitement around the carriage ^^

[reellytreble]

Considering that William may have had a very traumatizing past, you are doing a commendable job of handling him. I think his temperament adds to the situations for sure, but how he handles himself is a good sign he was handled harshly and without appropriate patience. I like how you have someone at his head in the later videos. As he calms more, you may try putting up in the middle of the yard with someone at his head instead. Way to go William!! :o)

[nanakla]

Try teaching him to simply stand nicely untill you say go. You shouldn't need to tie a horse when harnessing and hitcvhin the cart..

[nanakla]

Edit: Otherwise, good work :)

[memphisbars]

@nanakla - What an absolutely idiotic thing to say. This gentleman probably knows a thousand times more than you do about Hackneys and driving.

[nanakla]

He probably knows a lot, yes, but there is a problem when you have to go through so much work, precautions and trouble to use your horse for what it's trained to do, be it driving, riding or anything else. And most of those issues can be dealt with with just a little bit training. Especially if the horse is already well behaved once it has 'started', it should just take some consistency and active training for let's say a week, to not have to go through all this work before every drive.

[memphisbars]

You probably aren't familiar with Hackneys. If you were you would know that most Hackneys get A LOT of training and they still may have issues with standing quietly. I have known old Hackney ponies who have driven and shown very successfully into their twenties and they still are impatient. This is the best breed in the world but they can be a handful at times.

[Kolibri2005]

Even so, William and hackneysaregreat should probably have a little discussion about standing! No, he may not stand perfectly, but consistent work all the time to remind him how to stand may help (don't mean to be pompous, I don't know William myself!). He may never stand perfectly but it would probably help keep him at least a little quieter.

William is gorgeous once he's going! I've never tried show driving but I'd love to do it sometime. Perhaps I will look into a hackney in the future :-)

[memphisbars]

Would that it were that simple! I have owned Hackneys that would stand all day and I have had those that were never happy to stand quietly. Training is not the issue here. It is a temperment thing. You would have to have some experience with this breed to understand perhaps.

[Kolibri2005]

I'm sorry, I find it very difficult to believe that you can't train a horse to stand still, or at least not throw a fit, no matter how little they like standing still. However, I will definitely admit that I have never handled hackneys before. I have handled thoroughbreds, morgans, arabs and many other hot horses, but never hackneys. I also understand that William's owner suspects there was previous abuse involved, which of course complicates things greatly. Poor William! :-(

[memphisbars]

I still remember watching a certain world's champion Hackney being readied for a pleasure class at the American Royal. He was surrounded by a group that included grooms and trainer as he was hooked. Even so he flipped over backwards in the shafts. He was righted and sent in to win the class.

[tracerace66]

@memphisbars I had a Hack as a teen and I couldn't get her to walk, ever. A woman advised me (probably for being sick of seeing me careen around) to take her in the arena and walk...then walk for 6 weeks without ever breaking into a trot. It took a while to get her to walk in the arena but once I did I followed the advice for 6 wks and we never had a problem with too much forward. I have used that same advice 30 years later with a too-forward STB. Best of luck to you...I enjoy your videos!

[NandiniJT]

Well done!! You're really good with him! He was really going up there for a moment.

[tubedebby]

romania

[hackneysaregreat]

???

[MajiksGurl224]

neatherlands.

[wolfje92]

@tubedebby sounds dutch to me xD

[inomia]

@tubedebby

It's just an old farm. They have these in the Netherlands... you know, a country with an actual history... So it's great that they keep it as original as possible and not cover it with stainless steel and Plexiglas!

[TheChicagirl123]

@tubedebby Nope netherlands

[dizzybrowngirl]

what a beautiful horse and well done it cant have been easy

[Dressage9603]

Why is he so exciteable before you get onto the carriage?

[hackneysaregreat]

Probably really bad experiences from the past.

[InkyFairy]

I comend you on your patience and calm manner, it is obviously just what Will needs to get over what ever made him so nervous in the past. Amazing work! well done!

[hackneysaregreat]

Thanks.

[trunfoII]

wowie! das een speedy conzales zeg.....wat ik wel eens doe om op te stijgen is ze wat biks laten geven door iemand die er naast staat dan ontspannen ze toch even uit de stress. Ik had een paard dat stijgerde bij het opstijgen en zo heeft hij geleerd dat opstijgen gepaard gaat met iets positiefs. Het doorbreekt een visueuse cirkel maar ik weet niet of dat bij dit paard zou werken maar paarden en voer zijn een goede combinatie...het proberen waard.

[JustOneChange]

I admire your patience!

Well done!

[hackneysaregreat]

Thanks.

Most appreciated.

[pirouette987]

tie him with a longer rope, that goes to the wall with a slip knot and to your hand. release it when you are in the cart.

or get a header, if you could convince anyone to get near the horse, LOL!

[hackneysaregreat]

A header is most times no problem (if anyone is there).

The slip knot trick was suggested by more people, but brings you definitely in big trouble, as you will get a conditioned reflex in no time.

Loose the knot and go off the very second you do it...

[scarletwildfire77]

Looks like someone trained him to a jog cart. In Standardbred racing here in USA, the driver jumps onto the cart while the horse trots off and the momentum swings the driver into the seat. It looks like you're going to have to do a lot of ground driving with him to teach him that it's no fun to jump around like that in the traces and that standing still is much more "fun". Good luck!

[hackneysaregreat]

I think they "trained" him for show driving, meaning that when unlashed he should go off like a rocket to show himself in the ring.

I train a lot on standing still after unlashing, and that has improved a lot.

[LastTree]

I give you so much credit. Yikes, I was a bit nervous myself seeing his front feet off the ground.

[hackneysaregreat]

I don't do it like this anymore, as training him to stand still when driving off became even more important after a misstep getting on the carriage, brought me into real trouble.

[Neighingfilly]

good boy (;

[panachehackneys]

YEEHAW WILLIAM!!!!

One day, when you learn that you do not have to be thinking so hard about what 'might' happen, your clever mind will start thinking about the joyful trot coming up. :-)

[hackneysaregreat]

See, thats what I try to learn him, and I am feeling that I am nearing that point.

Anyway, when I am in the forest, he somuch enjoys a real, fast trot and occasional gallop and makes such a satisfied impression when back at the stable and the day after...

At full speed, I think he gives you the same exitement as a really very expensive sportscar. Only a lot more fun to drive :)

I get many exited remarks from enthousiast people seeing him coming and passing.

[milliesos]

flipin hell well done xx

[hackneysaregreat]

Thnx, the moment you "untie" you have no other choice..:)

But he is still improving and I hope he will discover that the jumpy part is totally unnecessary for him, as he steps down the road without any stress after that.