wufei treize final battle1

[drake2023]

But this was a great duel though one of the best fights in the series though to wufei's credit he was fighting Treize fairly he even said why arent you useing your dragons and Wufei answered because I want to fight you fairly so he did a great job despite handicaping himself

[r3gie831]

that a complete suicidal move for treize.

[thedictatorfan]

i Hate that Wufei kills Treize he is the worst character.

[Bankotsu897]

@thedictatorfan I thought Heero would duke it out with treize

[jcouch5252]

@thedictatorfan he's definatly the most complicated character qoutra is easily the worst

[bobbyewing311]

@jcouch5252 Nah Quatre had his moments. I think that Reelena was the worst character. Look how many people died because of her stuipid ideology. Her and Treize were hoping for the same thing in the end but Reelena was dumb enough to actually believe that people would actually put down their weapons and stop fighting.

[jcouch5252]

@bobbyewing311 your totally right, relena is by far the worst character.

[drake2023]

@jcouch5252 I agree in all honesty i always found her a hypoecrit I hope i spelt that right anyways when she went to work for the rommerfellar foundation and declared the earth one nation she knew they were going to use force to make that happen but she did it anyways if she believed in pacifism so much she would've not have went along with that plan but no when her life was threatened she caved unlike when other people were dieing for her ideals oh she held on to her pacifism

[jcouch5252]

@drake2023 pacisificsm is so stupid and unrealistic, anyone with half a brain can see that, therefore releena is an idiot as well as a hypocrite. heero shouldve killed her like he said he would in the first episode.

[Rael0505]

When Treize talks about "God lending a helping hand," it's interesting to realize that he's only using God figuratively - in an earlier episode he says God is just an imaginary figure created by humans, yet he would often refer to God in his speeches.

[lilprincekilla]

treize is pprobably the strongest character in the show. wufei is a tough gundam, if not the strongest, and treize fights with him like it's childs play. to bad he let wufei kill him

[TragicFires]

@lilprincekilla I think Trowa & Heero are smarter fighters than Wufei, but wufei was badass cause of his chaotic fighting style

[lilprincekilla]

@TragicFires

yes, heero is smarter but that's cuzz he's like....hooked and....it's hard to explain. he's like a machine in a way. and trowa seems more like military type. but wufei's know for that kungfu style fighting, which is beyond military training. he could probably be a ninja if he wanted. treize seems to be beyond that since he makes wufei look like childs play. all the others seem to fight evenly with wufei but he struggles with treize. imagine how it'd be of the others fought treize

[TragicFires]

@lilprincekilla I think Heero could fight evenly w/ Trieze because Zechs is probably pretty even with Trieze. I guess the only prob with GW is that there are some battles that were never fought :(

[lilprincekilla]

@TragicFires

heero fought wufei. even though he wasn't fighting completly when in his mobil suite, you could tell they were about even. treize doesn't get much fighting in the shows. he's usually just on the side talking or watching. but it's aparent that none of them could touch treiz the way he fought wufei. trust me, wufei is no pushover, he'll give heero, and zechs a run for their money. but treize, he's on a different level.

[TragicFires]

@lilprincekilla wufei is a great pilot no doubt, but i think he makes more mistakes. heero is a bit more tactical. i do agree that wufei would give them a tough fight, i just think that strategic fighters like heero & zechs just have a slight advantage because of their styles

[lilprincekilla]

@TragicFires

when it comes to doing a mission and stuff like that, strategy matters. but when it comes to a straight up one on one battle, we're not worried about strategy or anything. and treize proved that he'd whoop them in a one on one battle, just like wufei proved he'd win in a one on one fight with zecks, and heero. besides, heero screwed up in more missions than wufei did anyway, or have you forgotten?

[TragicFires]

@lilprincekilla In fairness, the show didn't portray WuFei in as many missions as Heero. And Heero's missions were generally more difficult, he did fight zechs like 5 times, and when Zechs fought Wufei he was trying to get him to side with him but Wufei declined, that battle ending wasnt very conclusive though cause i think wufei left the battlefield

[lilprincekilla]

@TragicFires

that may be so, be heero was the main character. on top of that, he's crazy. and zecks should been able to fend off wufei like treize could seeing he had the zero system. so that makes no diff. besides, each time they fought, heero and zecks would even out or zecks have the advantage, except for the final where heero owned the talgeise, however you spell it. but trust me, the weakest gundam is heavy arms, despite him being my favorite

[malkura90210]

@lilprincekilla

You're forgetting that Zecks still wasn't entirely in control of the zero system. The very fact Wufei couldn't do anything to Zecks DESPITE Zecks being overwhelmed by the zero system shows Wufei was definetly not on Zeck's level.

[lilprincekilla]

@malkura90210

maybe that's true, but you're also forgetting that zecks, or milyardo (however you spell his name) had the zero system, and that's why wulfei wasn't able to completly fight wulfei back either (not successfully at least). i agree that zecks is stronger, but not entirely. they're weren't entirely fighting so it wouldn't be right to say the zecks is stronger than wulfei either, though i believe zecks would win.

[bobbyewing311]

@lilprincekilla Wufei was scared of the Zero System. He used Wing Zero once to defend Peacemillion and just like everyone else who couldn't handle it (Qutre, Duo, Trowa) he decided to leave the Zero System for Hiro to use. It's not that he didn't have the Zero System, he was too weak to handle the Zero System. Wufei is a skilled pilot don't get me wrong but Zechs would destroy him.

[lilprincekilla]

@bobbyewing311

all of them were scared of the zero system, even heero. Zecks is not the strongest, he's just a fan fave. Wufei didn't have the military traning, he had that bruce lee karate type style fighting. heero and zecks had to use the zero systems when they were flying around in em because their suits were either damaged or away. so they were basically forced to use the system. i used to feel like zecks was the best too, until I saw the final fight between him and heero.

[bobbyewing311]

@lilprincekilla In my opinion, Treize would beat both of them as far as sheer ability goes. Think of it this way, he took spare parts from the original Tallgese and made the Tallgese II and the combat abilities of the second one were just about the same, it had the same exact weapons and frame. He was able to destroy all those virgo mobile dolls and fight on par with the gundams (he even could have won the fight with Wufei) but Zechs almost died fighting tauras dolls in the first tallgese.

[MrKerrj]

@bobbyewing311 Tallgeese II was an improvement over the Talgeese I. Zechs didn't almost die because of being shot down, he had a heartattack because the suit moved too quickly. Also, the frame may be the same but the Tallgeese II used a beam weapon while Tallgeese I fired shells. I do agree Treize was a better pilot overall though.

[bobbyewing311]

@MrKerrj I know there's no way to actually go and check this because it's all based on animation but the Tallgese II had the same parts as the Tallgese did. The reason the Tallgese was the strongest machine is because the Gundams were just 5 variations of the Tallgese design. They still couldn't compare to the original. Also, I'm not talking about that particular scene, I'm talking about when he got attacked by those mobile dolls in space and had to self detonate.

[drake2023]

@bobbyewing311 The Gundams were not variations of the Tallgese they were varients of Wing Zero Tallgese was just the first mobile suit and as for it being the strongest i gotta disagree because When Zechs first used the Tallgese to fight against Wing Gundam Heero was actually beating Zechs right before the colonies was threatened

[jcouch5252]

@MrKerrj trieze is the series ultimate duelist



[lilprincekilla]

@bobbyewing311

no long explaination is needed for your portion because that's how i started off with all the commenting, stating that treize is the strongest of all the characters. You have your statics and they're a little different from mine, but i notice that you notice the battle here and you've probably seen the duel between he and wufei so yeah, you statte your point and i agree with you. so we state the same point

[UltamateSharingan]

Um thats obviously Treize. He wears his old fashioned clothes and Zechs has long white hair. Zechs fights Heero in the final battle. Wefei and Treize has had a bit of a duel going on since the begginning of the series when Wufei lost in a sword dual against Treize

[NYCHARLEM212]

Or is that zech?

[edenfire]

That's Zechs. Trieze was something like his mentor.

[lilprincekilla]

@edenfire

i know this was from 2yrs ago but how can you confuse this with zechs? they don't even look the same

[lilprincekilla]

@edenfire

my bad, wrong person

[NYCHARLEM212]

Is treize the gut with half a mask on and the owner of talguess

[bandman232]

That is zechs. I suggest you watch it from the beginning.