If you watch shows like Maury, and Jerry Springer, and all the other trash talk TV. Do we really want everyone who can procreate to do so. Just because someone can reproduce doesn't mean that they should. Take sarah palins parents as an example.
I know not all gays will adopt, but not all straights procreate. I mean, I don't see anyone making moves to beak up straight marriages who don't have children.
You know why they oppose gay adoption? It shows that there's a very valid component to gay marriage. Its the biggest thing that just shuts up the Right's argument. They bring up gay couples not being able to have children as an example of why gay marriage shouldn't be legal. Adoption, in many cases, not only shows that heterosexual marriage isn't all that ideal, but it also shows that gay spouses can serve a very real purpose in our society.
McCain and Romney are just heartless. Republicans always talk up state right when it suits them. However, when the states truly make up their own mind on something the federal government disagrees with, then Washington puts its foot down. People are just wrong to vote people like this in and keep on voting for them. They don't feel that way about gay marriage. They're not saying, just let the states decide. No, they're trying to get the supreme court to ban it nationally. assholes
Last time I checked, gay people were members of families too. IS this really the message we want to put out? That gay people, no matter how hard they try, don't and will not ever belong? That they can't grow up expecting the sames things as everyone else because they are something less than everyone else? Jesus Christ.
OKAY, lemme get this straight.. McCain is Pro-Life, so he wants more orphans but doesnt want those orphans to be housed by gays who are statistically more law abiding, intellegant and understanding people..
Its funny how the minority on a subject can make such a big impact when people who know what is right don't act on what they believe in. Everyone is too afraid about being politically incorrect. You don't hear people protesting the degeneration of basic moral values. Its more "be more accepting" and "if it makes them happy it ok". And you wonder why there are more divorces and broken families now, than anytime in history.
Adopting unwanted children is a "chore" I gladly am doing without. I can avoid bigoted charities, plenty of others will happily accept my checks. All of those things and places that want to keep gays away are the same ones I don't want any part of anyway.
I spent years as a teacher, until I finally realized how unnecessary the headaches and the pains teachers are subjected to were. Eventually I figured they can all find another fool. Since then I've tripled my income and never looked back.
I don't consider being homosexual to be a birth defect Ms.Bliss2387...
Nobody is truly straight or homosexual. We're all attracted to the same sex in some way as we're to all human beings, right?
I don't see how two homosexuals are going to be any different than a heterosexual couple besides their sexual interests and the fact they're either both males or females. Why do we think so negatively of different, new concepts?
Well, allow me make this perfectly clear for the uneducated and ignorant. Gay, transgendered, and intersexed human beings do not choose to be born with a birth defect. However, just like many of you are obviously born mentally challenged(based on the disgusting comments you leave) there are people born with these differences and deserve to be able to give these beautiful children a loving home. So, this very minute you all need to educate yourselves and wake up. Hillary wastheonly viable choice
I can not forgive my father if he raised me and left my mother for a gay man. I can not forgive my mother if she left my father for a another women. A mother and father is important to me. if they divorce thats there choice, but if they replace eachother for homosexual preferences I cannot forgive that. Its selfish, wrong, and immoral. Gays may not like hearing that, but that is what I believe. Call me a homophobe, Then I call you a heterphobe!
Is this really the Republican's presumptive nominee? McCain supporters must scream and cry in their pillows late at night when they're all alone. Is this the best they've got... really? Sad and pathetic. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Tell John "Mr. Magoo" McCain he's going to lose by a landslide in November. Stevie Wonder can see that.
I wish all these candidates would lose or the people would ignore them. your right, its sad that this is the best that they have to offer. I want a rework of the voteing system to include another option on the vote. that option would be to: Get someone Better, or get out of town.
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What a helmet hair idiot. If only we lived in an ideal world, but we don't. And this idiot and his crazy partner mcshame want to skirt the issue and not take a stand one way or the other, what a cop out, consv, can't say "he's for gay addoption" and gays cant' say, "thay don't want me to raise a child" give me a break, they are both bigots. I would rather have my kids raised by a gay person, than to move from foster home to foster home. Assholes. makes me sick..
you want a kid to not be raised right? You want him/her to be raised by two mothers or two fathers? To be taught that there is No relation to mother/father/brother/sister/cousin/uncle/aunt/Grandparents? Are you suggesting that kid to grow up without that, and that there is no relation or knowledge of where he/she came from? That there is no different between male or female? Homosexuals do just that, they ignore the family line and mock it, and now believe they are better than heters? lol
No,I want children to be raised to be tolerant of others who may be different, I want them raised with love and understanding, disapline, self respect. You think that there are no grandparents, cusins, aunts,uncles, ect of children raised by gays? Of course there are. Why have them move from foster care to foster care, for years, sometimes until they are 18, then they are out on the street with no family, I would rather my kids be raised by a loving gay couple than live through that, yea i would
In addition, why do you assume that gay couples say there is no difference between male,female,or they don't explain where the kids came from, that is not the way it works, infact, Gay couples want the same thing everyone wants for their kids, to be happy, self confident, well adjusted. Try to be more tollerant, you will find that the world is not such a bad place, and things are more gray than black and white.
If i was raised by a gay couple, they would probly teach me that they are my family and that I have no real mom or dad or real siblings. If I was adopted. Children who were born from mothers who went to sperm banks dont have fathers, just a name to go by. The black community is full of single mothers with sons who grow up and do the same thing to there wives all because there fathers left for whatever reason. even gay couples wont recognize or teach or keep track of whose real family.
A whole community of gay people who adopt children, they will eventually teach lies to supposed adopted kids. And then noone for a whole generation will know who was responsible for bringing them into the world. Raising and creating children are two different things. A good mother and father who make right choices is important for raising a kid the right way.
why do you assume that gay couples would not raise their adopted children not to know their roots, any more than strait couples? What do you think, should they take away children born to gay people? Kids need love, most adopted kids are told they are adopted, what about adopting kids from china, is that right? It is not true that gay people raise their children any different then strait. God bless you and I hope you are blessed everyday.
So do you think that if a child is adopted by a straight couple, biological ties just appear out of nowhere? Does God come out of nowhere and make them related by blood? Family is about more than just who spawned you. It's about love and support.
How do you feel about a single gay person adopting? A het couple adopting? A single parent adopting?
do you think that just because you choose a specific lifestyle that you get special liberties and rights? The family is not just some idea or notion, its a sacred institution. Changing that to fit your lifestyle is like peeing on your neighbors front yard. I don't know of any single parents adopting. its hard enough to raise children alone. Yes marriage is about love but also most importantly procreation of the family and only a women and a man can do that. why are you against that?
I notice that you think since I'm for gay rights, I'm automatically gay. The only reason I got myself involved in this is because I was adopted and I can't see how you argument doesn't apply to straight couples as well as same-sex couples. I'm not against family, I'm not against marriage, and I'm not against straight people in the slightest. However, I am opposed to letting kids go without a loving family just because you don't like their prospective family's lifestyle.
Marriage is not just some right, it is more than that! Family has been defined for thousands of years as a Husband, Wife, and children and all who are related down to the family line. Why do you insist on changing that?
love and support does not make someone family, that only means you love and support someone. which is what everyone should be doing anyways. Family is more than just people deciding to live together. It is more than just a lifestyle. Stop trying to bring adoption into this to justify some gay agenda.
Children should be adopted into families not adopted by two people just living together. Thats not a family institution, thats just a mental institution. Homosexual couples will only teach homosexuality on adopted children. what should be taught is that child should pursue someone of the opposite sex when they grow older so they can marry and have a real family. Being taught homosexuality only would confuse children about who they really are and hinders there chance at having a real family.
You sound like there are creepy homos all over lining up to adopt kids so they can lock them up and teach them butt-sex all day. You seem to have this one-side-only, one-way-only definition of the word "family" and to me, it's a narrowminded way of looking at it. Since diversity is an outstanding feature in north america, there are endless ways a functional family unit can exist here. MOST people do not grow up in the so called perfect nuclear family you embrace.
Exactly! I grew up in a nuclear family that was extremely dysfunctional. But I have yet to meet a gay person that I didn't feel possessed some if not all of the qualities of an ideal parent. I'm glad I live in Canada where the typical thoughts on this matter are a bit more open-minded.
Do you not think the gay parents, having more than likely experienced their share of oppression at some point in their lives, allow the child his or her freedom of choice? It comes down to the question; would a child raised by homosexuals also in fact be one? Then comes the age old debate of whether homosexuality is governed by environment or chemical makeup. Judging by the cases you hear of the 'anti-gay redneck dad' Vs. 'the gay son who runs away', I'd be inclined to go with the latter.
If you follow your own logic, and I use the word loosely, it means that every gay child had a gay parent they "learned" from. Which we all know is not the case. It also means that you some how get to decide what a REAL family is.
It is also strange to me that the very people that oppose gay marriage also then want to penalize gay couples for not being married.
Families are about love not sex. Get your bigoted mind out of the gutter!
The post that I was replying to (the reply button does not always seem to work ) made a statement about gay couples not being married and having a "real" family and that gay couples would teach their children to be gay.
With that in mind, what difference does it make over what orientation is used to raise a child? How do you figure differs from the traditional methods? Do you seriously believe the kid will grow up knowing only homosexuality? Do you fear a future overpopulated with prancing, rainbow colours and comical lisps? Get real man. A human's nature is to grow, develop and EVOLVE, it'll be up to the individual what path he/she decides on. Not the parents, not the family, nobody but that person.
Did it ever occur to you that what a child sees and is taught early on will affect the way they will perceive things for the rest of their lives. People grow, evolve, and form their own opinions, yes. But the path that they will lead is carved out mostly in their youth and directly affected by circumstances and what they are taught is "right".
Well that was a generic argument that said pretty much nothing. Contrary to primitive belief, gay parents won't 'make a kid gay'. It may make the kid tolerable of it... by the sounds of your argument, that's not "right". Is tolerating gays is really that "wrong"? And what the crap's the divorce rate gotta do with tolerance? lol Sounds like you're grasping straws on only your second comment.
Why is McCain angry at the world and bitter about Americans? He stated that America is a "Nation of Whiners", he is against gays and lesbians, he dislike blue collar workers, he has even shown distain for individuals like Britany Spear and Paris Hilton, for no apparant reason. I don't think I want an angry, bitter person leading my country. He's too explosive and resentful for me. You can't negotiate peace with other countries with that kind of personality.
so you want a president that will raise people up and encourage more wickedness, corruption, immoral deterioration and further destruction of the family in our society? We need a president to stand up and be a role model for this country, NOT an Obama with a slogan that says: "YES WE CAN,, do whatever the hell we want." Wow Im amazed at how much that sounds like utter rebellion against everything thats made this country great and good.
Sorry, but our country has never been so wicked, corrupt, immoral and destructive of family as it is now, after 8 years of republican dictatorship. Bush may be your role model, but he is one that I can respect, and McCain is too much like Bush. Oh, by the way, didn't you know that this country was founded out of utter rebellion? It was called the American Revolution, and that rebellion is what made this country great and good. Vote for change we can live with. Vote Obama in 2008!!!
it was founded out of utter rebellion against a government that maintained tyrannical control over human rights and the right to worship. Yes I would gladly rebel for freedom and liberty. I cant say I will vote obama though. I cant trust that he'll stand for the people and not be another puppet president. Ive lost faith in bush along time ago, when he started stripping away our rights, and pardoned himself of any possible war crimes in iraq.
I agree with your comments. My biggest concern with McCain being president, is that he would have to rely on the same people who served Bush. I don't want another administration who works for the oil companies and against the American people. It's time for a major change. We need to reclaim the rights that republicans stripped away from us in the last 8 years. God bless America!
I think most Americans would want kids to be adopted by any family or single parent rather than be left to move from place to place under the foster care system.
McCain says Obama is just like Britney and Paris--but McCain wears $520 Ferragamo shoes???
Obama's family dressed him down on national television for owning the same suit pants for over a decade; and McCain wears $520 Italian shoes????
I think one of these candidates has confused his lavish Washington lifestyle with the 'experience' needed to run the country. I for one think it's a GOOD thing Obama hasn't spent his adult life living it up in Washington!
Why not? If there is something America needs, then it is more style. I spend a lot of money on clothes too and i encourage everybody to do so. I mean he has enough money to buy shoes 5 times as expensive, so why not?
Those who bitch about gays the most usualy are gay. Look at that bathroom bandit who got cought with his pants down and foot a tapping. He has pushed every anti gay bill ever proposed. Lary creig. Why arn't mits 5 sons serving their country in Iraq? He said, they are serving their country by helping to elect him pres, then he dropped out. Hope mcsame picks him. Then they can put that little remark on a loop.
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Gays bring upon a curse when they adopt a child...imagine whats going to happen when these children get older and realize they dads or moms are an abomination to the Lord?
if god made man, and if god mad elove and emotions and attractions...then god made gay cant have the world full of breeders we be ear deep in un-wanted offspring by now
By the time this fraud was out of the race he was screaming for all kinds of anti-gay legislation. Making it hard to tell how many homophobes make up the republican base.
One of the main reason he would make a "fabulous" running mate for McCain. The closet racists who don't want to vote for Obama would eat up his bullshit and call it Boston cream pie. BTW...Where's Jeb Bush? Why isn't he running?
Coward!
I'm glad McShame lost too.
MegaCrevice 10 months ago
If you watch shows like Maury, and Jerry Springer, and all the other trash talk TV. Do we really want everyone who can procreate to do so. Just because someone can reproduce doesn't mean that they should. Take sarah palins parents as an example.
RobNLynchburgVA 1 year ago
I love how they proclaim what "americans" want...Hey Romney - kiss my ass and STFU!
rextrek 3 years ago
Because he said leave it to a vote and he had a view but wouldnt impose it on anyone and he's the bad guy?
Da55Moose 1 year ago
Mitt Romney and John McCain should be 100% for gay adoption. I thought he was promising "change" WTF? Douche BAGS!! -_-'
CallMeNaruto 3 years ago
I know not all gays will adopt, but not all straights procreate. I mean, I don't see anyone making moves to beak up straight marriages who don't have children.
pisscunt 3 years ago 3
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vechorik 3 months ago
You know why they oppose gay adoption? It shows that there's a very valid component to gay marriage. Its the biggest thing that just shuts up the Right's argument. They bring up gay couples not being able to have children as an example of why gay marriage shouldn't be legal. Adoption, in many cases, not only shows that heterosexual marriage isn't all that ideal, but it also shows that gay spouses can serve a very real purpose in our society.
pisscunt 3 years ago
McCain and Romney are just heartless. Republicans always talk up state right when it suits them. However, when the states truly make up their own mind on something the federal government disagrees with, then Washington puts its foot down. People are just wrong to vote people like this in and keep on voting for them. They don't feel that way about gay marriage. They're not saying, just let the states decide. No, they're trying to get the supreme court to ban it nationally. assholes
pisscunt 3 years ago 2
Last time I checked, gay people were members of families too. IS this really the message we want to put out? That gay people, no matter how hard they try, don't and will not ever belong? That they can't grow up expecting the sames things as everyone else because they are something less than everyone else? Jesus Christ.
JuanIII 3 years ago
OKAY, lemme get this straight.. McCain is Pro-Life, so he wants more orphans but doesnt want those orphans to be housed by gays who are statistically more law abiding, intellegant and understanding people..
PartVIII 3 years ago 2
They're statistically more intelligent, understanding, and law-abiding? What source do you get this from? I just want to know.
TolsmaLMC 3 years ago
Its funny how the minority on a subject can make such a big impact when people who know what is right don't act on what they believe in. Everyone is too afraid about being politically incorrect. You don't hear people protesting the degeneration of basic moral values. Its more "be more accepting" and "if it makes them happy it ok". And you wonder why there are more divorces and broken families now, than anytime in history.
joeshawaii 3 years ago
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Adopting unwanted children is a "chore" I gladly am doing without. I can avoid bigoted charities, plenty of others will happily accept my checks. All of those things and places that want to keep gays away are the same ones I don't want any part of anyway.
I spent years as a teacher, until I finally realized how unnecessary the headaches and the pains teachers are subjected to were. Eventually I figured they can all find another fool. Since then I've tripled my income and never looked back.
thursdaysrecords 3 years ago
I don't consider being homosexual to be a birth defect Ms.Bliss2387...
Nobody is truly straight or homosexual. We're all attracted to the same sex in some way as we're to all human beings, right?
I don't see how two homosexuals are going to be any different than a heterosexual couple besides their sexual interests and the fact they're either both males or females. Why do we think so negatively of different, new concepts?
Yaguermeister 3 years ago
Well, allow me make this perfectly clear for the uneducated and ignorant. Gay, transgendered, and intersexed human beings do not choose to be born with a birth defect. However, just like many of you are obviously born mentally challenged(based on the disgusting comments you leave) there are people born with these differences and deserve to be able to give these beautiful children a loving home. So, this very minute you all need to educate yourselves and wake up. Hillary wastheonly viable choice
msbliss2387 3 years ago
I can not forgive my father if he raised me and left my mother for a gay man. I can not forgive my mother if she left my father for a another women. A mother and father is important to me. if they divorce thats there choice, but if they replace eachother for homosexual preferences I cannot forgive that. Its selfish, wrong, and immoral. Gays may not like hearing that, but that is what I believe. Call me a homophobe, Then I call you a heterphobe!
dikensteign 3 years ago
Is this really the Republican's presumptive nominee? McCain supporters must scream and cry in their pillows late at night when they're all alone. Is this the best they've got... really? Sad and pathetic. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Tell John "Mr. Magoo" McCain he's going to lose by a landslide in November. Stevie Wonder can see that.
kevski11 3 years ago
I wish all these candidates would lose or the people would ignore them. your right, its sad that this is the best that they have to offer. I want a rework of the voteing system to include another option on the vote. that option would be to: Get someone Better, or get out of town.
dikensteign 3 years ago
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WHEN U R READING THIS DONT STOP ORSOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN! MY NAME ISSUMMER I AM 15 YEARS OLD i have BLONDEHAIR ,MANY SCARS no NOSE OR EARS.. IAM DEAD. IF U DONT COPY THIS JUST LIKEFROM THE RING, COPY N POST THIS ON 5MORE SITES.. OR.. I WILL APPEAR ONEDARK QUIET NIGHT WHEN UR NOT ExPECTINGIT BY YOUR BED WITH A KNIFE AND KILLU. THIS IS NO JOKE SOMETHING GOOD WILLHAPPEN TO U IF YOU POST THIS ON 5 MOREPAGES.
FlowerPowerChicks 3 years ago
What a helmet hair idiot. If only we lived in an ideal world, but we don't. And this idiot and his crazy partner mcshame want to skirt the issue and not take a stand one way or the other, what a cop out, consv, can't say "he's for gay addoption" and gays cant' say, "thay don't want me to raise a child" give me a break, they are both bigots. I would rather have my kids raised by a gay person, than to move from foster home to foster home. Assholes. makes me sick..
littledogs1 3 years ago
you want a kid to not be raised right? You want him/her to be raised by two mothers or two fathers? To be taught that there is No relation to mother/father/brother/sister/cousin/uncle/aunt/Grandparents? Are you suggesting that kid to grow up without that, and that there is no relation or knowledge of where he/she came from? That there is no different between male or female? Homosexuals do just that, they ignore the family line and mock it, and now believe they are better than heters? lol
dikensteign 3 years ago
No,I want children to be raised to be tolerant of others who may be different, I want them raised with love and understanding, disapline, self respect. You think that there are no grandparents, cusins, aunts,uncles, ect of children raised by gays? Of course there are. Why have them move from foster care to foster care, for years, sometimes until they are 18, then they are out on the street with no family, I would rather my kids be raised by a loving gay couple than live through that, yea i would
littledogs1 3 years ago
In addition, why do you assume that gay couples say there is no difference between male,female,or they don't explain where the kids came from, that is not the way it works, infact, Gay couples want the same thing everyone wants for their kids, to be happy, self confident, well adjusted. Try to be more tollerant, you will find that the world is not such a bad place, and things are more gray than black and white.
littledogs1 3 years ago
If i was raised by a gay couple, they would probly teach me that they are my family and that I have no real mom or dad or real siblings. If I was adopted. Children who were born from mothers who went to sperm banks dont have fathers, just a name to go by. The black community is full of single mothers with sons who grow up and do the same thing to there wives all because there fathers left for whatever reason. even gay couples wont recognize or teach or keep track of whose real family.
dikensteign 3 years ago
A whole community of gay people who adopt children, they will eventually teach lies to supposed adopted kids. And then noone for a whole generation will know who was responsible for bringing them into the world. Raising and creating children are two different things. A good mother and father who make right choices is important for raising a kid the right way.
dikensteign 3 years ago
why do you assume that gay couples would not raise their adopted children not to know their roots, any more than strait couples? What do you think, should they take away children born to gay people? Kids need love, most adopted kids are told they are adopted, what about adopting kids from china, is that right? It is not true that gay people raise their children any different then strait. God bless you and I hope you are blessed everyday.
littledogs1 3 years ago
dikensteign-
So do you think that if a child is adopted by a straight couple, biological ties just appear out of nowhere? Does God come out of nowhere and make them related by blood? Family is about more than just who spawned you. It's about love and support.
How do you feel about a single gay person adopting? A het couple adopting? A single parent adopting?
shufen2 3 years ago
do you think that just because you choose a specific lifestyle that you get special liberties and rights? The family is not just some idea or notion, its a sacred institution. Changing that to fit your lifestyle is like peeing on your neighbors front yard. I don't know of any single parents adopting. its hard enough to raise children alone. Yes marriage is about love but also most importantly procreation of the family and only a women and a man can do that. why are you against that?
dikensteign 3 years ago
I notice that you think since I'm for gay rights, I'm automatically gay. The only reason I got myself involved in this is because I was adopted and I can't see how you argument doesn't apply to straight couples as well as same-sex couples. I'm not against family, I'm not against marriage, and I'm not against straight people in the slightest. However, I am opposed to letting kids go without a loving family just because you don't like their prospective family's lifestyle.
shufen2 3 years ago 3
Marriage is not just some right, it is more than that! Family has been defined for thousands of years as a Husband, Wife, and children and all who are related down to the family line. Why do you insist on changing that?
dikensteign 3 years ago
love and support does not make someone family, that only means you love and support someone. which is what everyone should be doing anyways. Family is more than just people deciding to live together. It is more than just a lifestyle. Stop trying to bring adoption into this to justify some gay agenda.
dikensteign 3 years ago
I guess this conversation isn't worth continuing if you think that bringing adoption into a conversation about GAY ADOPTION is off topic.
shufen2 3 years ago 2
Children should be adopted into families not adopted by two people just living together. Thats not a family institution, thats just a mental institution. Homosexual couples will only teach homosexuality on adopted children. what should be taught is that child should pursue someone of the opposite sex when they grow older so they can marry and have a real family. Being taught homosexuality only would confuse children about who they really are and hinders there chance at having a real family.
dikensteign 3 years ago
You sound like there are creepy homos all over lining up to adopt kids so they can lock them up and teach them butt-sex all day. You seem to have this one-side-only, one-way-only definition of the word "family" and to me, it's a narrowminded way of looking at it. Since diversity is an outstanding feature in north america, there are endless ways a functional family unit can exist here. MOST people do not grow up in the so called perfect nuclear family you embrace.
Kaiem 3 years ago 3
Exactly! I grew up in a nuclear family that was extremely dysfunctional. But I have yet to meet a gay person that I didn't feel possessed some if not all of the qualities of an ideal parent. I'm glad I live in Canada where the typical thoughts on this matter are a bit more open-minded.
thedarkcourtsjester 3 years ago
Do you not think the gay parents, having more than likely experienced their share of oppression at some point in their lives, allow the child his or her freedom of choice? It comes down to the question; would a child raised by homosexuals also in fact be one? Then comes the age old debate of whether homosexuality is governed by environment or chemical makeup. Judging by the cases you hear of the 'anti-gay redneck dad' Vs. 'the gay son who runs away', I'd be inclined to go with the latter.
Kaiem 3 years ago 5
If you follow your own logic, and I use the word loosely, it means that every gay child had a gay parent they "learned" from. Which we all know is not the case. It also means that you some how get to decide what a REAL family is.
It is also strange to me that the very people that oppose gay marriage also then want to penalize gay couples for not being married.
Families are about love not sex. Get your bigoted mind out of the gutter!
Tsavoma 3 years ago
Who said they want to penalize gay couples for not being "married"?
TolsmaLMC 3 years ago
The post that I was replying to (the reply button does not always seem to work ) made a statement about gay couples not being married and having a "real" family and that gay couples would teach their children to be gay.
Tsavoma 3 years ago
With that in mind, what difference does it make over what orientation is used to raise a child? How do you figure differs from the traditional methods? Do you seriously believe the kid will grow up knowing only homosexuality? Do you fear a future overpopulated with prancing, rainbow colours and comical lisps? Get real man. A human's nature is to grow, develop and EVOLVE, it'll be up to the individual what path he/she decides on. Not the parents, not the family, nobody but that person.
Kaiem 3 years ago 3
(oops, this was supposed to be an additional reply to dikensteign, I replied to the wrong post. My bad.)
Kaiem 3 years ago 2
Did it ever occur to you that what a child sees and is taught early on will affect the way they will perceive things for the rest of their lives. People grow, evolve, and form their own opinions, yes. But the path that they will lead is carved out mostly in their youth and directly affected by circumstances and what they are taught is "right".
joeshawaii 3 years ago
Well that was a generic argument that said pretty much nothing. Contrary to primitive belief, gay parents won't 'make a kid gay'. It may make the kid tolerable of it... by the sounds of your argument, that's not "right". Is tolerating gays is really that "wrong"? And what the crap's the divorce rate gotta do with tolerance? lol Sounds like you're grasping straws on only your second comment.
Kaiem 3 years ago 2
Why is McCain angry at the world and bitter about Americans? He stated that America is a "Nation of Whiners", he is against gays and lesbians, he dislike blue collar workers, he has even shown distain for individuals like Britany Spear and Paris Hilton, for no apparant reason. I don't think I want an angry, bitter person leading my country. He's too explosive and resentful for me. You can't negotiate peace with other countries with that kind of personality.
olejazzman 3 years ago
so you want a president that will raise people up and encourage more wickedness, corruption, immoral deterioration and further destruction of the family in our society? We need a president to stand up and be a role model for this country, NOT an Obama with a slogan that says: "YES WE CAN,, do whatever the hell we want." Wow Im amazed at how much that sounds like utter rebellion against everything thats made this country great and good.
dikensteign 3 years ago
Sorry, but our country has never been so wicked, corrupt, immoral and destructive of family as it is now, after 8 years of republican dictatorship. Bush may be your role model, but he is one that I can respect, and McCain is too much like Bush. Oh, by the way, didn't you know that this country was founded out of utter rebellion? It was called the American Revolution, and that rebellion is what made this country great and good. Vote for change we can live with. Vote Obama in 2008!!!
olejazzman 3 years ago
it was founded out of utter rebellion against a government that maintained tyrannical control over human rights and the right to worship. Yes I would gladly rebel for freedom and liberty. I cant say I will vote obama though. I cant trust that he'll stand for the people and not be another puppet president. Ive lost faith in bush along time ago, when he started stripping away our rights, and pardoned himself of any possible war crimes in iraq.
dikensteign 3 years ago
I agree with your comments. My biggest concern with McCain being president, is that he would have to rely on the same people who served Bush. I don't want another administration who works for the oil companies and against the American people. It's time for a major change. We need to reclaim the rights that republicans stripped away from us in the last 8 years. God bless America!
olejazzman 3 years ago
Hahaha. The Republicans are so fucked this year. Well, even more than usual.
seenew88 3 years ago
I think most Americans would want kids to be adopted by any family or single parent rather than be left to move from place to place under the foster care system.
ihastings 3 years ago
McCain says Obama is just like Britney and Paris--but McCain wears $520 Ferragamo shoes???
Obama's family dressed him down on national television for owning the same suit pants for over a decade; and McCain wears $520 Italian shoes????
I think one of these candidates has confused his lavish Washington lifestyle with the 'experience' needed to run the country. I for one think it's a GOOD thing Obama hasn't spent his adult life living it up in Washington!
$520 Ferragamo shoes?????
Baz744 3 years ago
Why not? If there is something America needs, then it is more style. I spend a lot of money on clothes too and i encourage everybody to do so. I mean he has enough money to buy shoes 5 times as expensive, so why not?
Londres2410 3 years ago
forget mccain with all this bull shit
trickydog32 3 years ago
Mitt Romney is a closet HO-MO-SEXUAL!
He loves the cock!
YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT!
p.s. - He's also a bit of a douche...am I wrong?
jrBunny1979 3 years ago
Those who bitch about gays the most usualy are gay. Look at that bathroom bandit who got cought with his pants down and foot a tapping. He has pushed every anti gay bill ever proposed. Lary creig. Why arn't mits 5 sons serving their country in Iraq? He said, they are serving their country by helping to elect him pres, then he dropped out. Hope mcsame picks him. Then they can put that little remark on a loop.
littledogs1 3 years ago
Homosexualism is a deliberate
practice and not an ethnicity.
procommenter 3 years ago
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Gays bring upon a curse when they adopt a child...imagine whats going to happen when these children get older and realize they dads or moms are an abomination to the Lord?
taxmino 3 years ago
if god made man, and if god mad elove and emotions and attractions...then god made gay cant have the world full of breeders we be ear deep in un-wanted offspring by now
meryanoneill 3 years ago
Western society is continually being undermined.
procommenter 3 years ago
Rommney and McBush probably have White hoods in thier closets.
crisoner 3 years ago
By the time this fraud was out of the race he was screaming for all kinds of anti-gay legislation. Making it hard to tell how many homophobes make up the republican base.
abassler 3 years ago
Timothy,
Why would you deny children the opportunity to have a permanent home with a gay couple?
I would trust many gay couples with children more than many heterosexual couples.
isrred 3 years ago 3
This man is a grinning, leering nut case. Oh, and a raging bigot, too.
thoughtful 3 years ago 2
One of the main reason he would make a "fabulous" running mate for McCain. The closet racists who don't want to vote for Obama would eat up his bullshit and call it Boston cream pie. BTW...Where's Jeb Bush? Why isn't he running?
jrBunny1979 3 years ago
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I say give homosexuals all the rights normal people have, but put a clause to ban homosexual adoption.
Social security, hospital rights, taxes, everything.
Why cant they do what they want, as long as no children are involved?
This seems like a law that both democrats and republicans can get behind.
Support Chris Dodd and Joe Leibermans bill for fair rights for homosexuals!
TimothyRed1990 3 years ago