Raimi said it all he says he read spider-man in the 70's and Venom is a character in the 80's/90's... Helloooo don't you have access to the fuckin marvel library u ASS!!! They knew this movie was gonna suck!!! Damn them all and Damn Sony for fucking up the Spiderman character
@sosa4693 yeah true even though his audience wanted to see venom in this movie, it would have been much better without him. i just hope that if they introduce carnage in spiderman 4, they dont ruin him as well,
i still think that if they portrayed venom as the large bruiser he is in the comics, it would have been a better movie
i'm the son of sam raimi and i'll tell you why this movie sucked.My dad hated venom but i wanted him there also avi arad wanted him too so my idiotic father put 3 villans in one movie what idiot huh now he is in depression now i'm secretly working with the reboot.
the only reason venom was there was cos fans wanted him,then they bitched tht there was too many villains,even though i think he should of had his own movie
Sam raimi didnt care about venom because he didnt read him in the comic he was only focused on the villains hes familiar with, not caring what the fans want.
all the persons seems so sick and tired at this interview.raimi dunst and tobby talk like somebody put a gun in their head for making this movie. also we fans feel same for that serie,movie serie goes to be a crap,we all 80s spidey fans wish that serie will continue with a new director and new actor/actress.
SPidy fans you only have you own selves to blame why venom was crap, you wanted to have him in it. raimi didnt, he wanted sandman and harry, leaving venom for spidy 4, but noo you and your ignorance, persuaded the producer arad to put him in, causing a mush of storylines making venom come and go like a fart in a breeze
@Vide0sPlz Venom is dead. Peter threw a pumpkin bomb at the symbiote and when Eddie jumps back in, the symbiote and Eddie were vaporized. And anyway Spider-Man 4 was canceled because of Sam Raimi's withdrawal.
Sargent KNEW that the script was too complex for a single movie, but his lack of talent left him incapable of writing an intermediate climax, so he went ahead and ****ed up the movie anyways.
Don't blame Arad's ignorance on the fans: sure, we wanted Venom, but we also wanted a good ****ing story. They could have included Venom at the very end, setting him up as a main character for the fourth movie, and I guarantee that most of the fans would have been ecstatic.
im not going to play the blame game but i think they should have done is had harry and Sandman be the villans in this one and then at the end have Brock become Venom thurs seting us up for Spidey 4 that would have been awesome but oh well im just hoping that Venom makes a return for spidey 4 along with The Lizard since its possible that venom could have survivored the explosion at the end thats what im hoping anyway
I think the villains in the next one will be carnage lizard and hobgoblin. The only reason i think its hobgoblin is because if harry and norman are dead, who gets the house with the goblin goodies in it? The butler could have gotten it of course but eventually if the butler inherited their money, it would dwindle away and he wouldnt really be able to live in the house anymore. whoever buys it i think will find the goblin stuff and decide a forge a goblin path of his own.
I like Spider-Man 3... I don't see why everyone objects to it. It tells and honest and emotional story. Sure it is a bit more silly than the previous 2, but come on, it is still awesome.
Plus, some friends of mine that hated it at first went to it a second time with me, and they totally changed their opinions. I would suggest all the haters do that...
to me, harry osborn as the new green goblin and sandman were the only villians needed for spiderman 3. when sam raimi explains the reasons why he chose those villians, it really makes sense. venom is only there because one of the produces was only thinking about the fans and the box office, not the story or peter parker's journey. i'm not saying venon wasn't great in the film. he was, but i just don't think there was no reason for him as a villian.
Ok Dumbfucks if they want to put carnage eddie shoundn't have died eddie shold have said peter no and didn't so he would go to jail then peter tells dr. conors that eddie is safe and sound without the symbiote and the symbiote in the lab heard that went to the jail eats eddie and the blood goes on the suit and goes on kletus kasady ok.
He doesnt design the suit, Raimi didnt even want Venom in the movie at first cus he thought he's too un-humanlike, did u hear him say it was his producer that told him about the kids?
if u play ultimate spiderman game in ps2 carnage is peter they wanna test some experiment so they use it on peter..try the game and see..i wish spiderman 4 wil come out..
actually spiderman 4 was formally announced, and in spiderman 4 venom will appear again. other villaiins also will appear. try to search spiderman or spiderman 4 on yahoo movies...
Venom can't appear again, because Brock is dead. If the symbiote bonded with someone else it wouldn't create another venom, but someone new. Such as Carnage.
yeah eddie brock is dead, i was wrong..and sorry for that.. maybe carnage will appear in 4th movie... you can also get other information in yahoo movies.. just search for spider-man 4...
spider man for will come out.. i misunderstood.. i thougth that dr conners wil become the venom but iwas wrong... dr conners is the one who will become the lizard..Sony hasn't officially announced any plans for a release date yet, but a summer release is a sure thing, and it will probably be in either 2009 or 2010. With many changes in the cast and crew possible between the third and fourth movie, 2010 seems most likely at this point, unless Sony announces 2009.
There's a good chance Tobey might do a Spidey 4, the villains for the 4th will obviously be the lizard, and carnage. Because dr. connors has some of the symbiote and he will use it to become the lizard. Oh and also venom is not dead so he may come back, oh wait Sam Raimis directing, no he wont.
Spider-Man has a large rogue's gallery of villains who have yet to be brought to the big screen including Electro, Mysterio, Rhino, the Vulture and many more. Two strong possibilities for this fourth movie are the return of Venom, who is introduced in the second half of Spider-Man 3 and the Lizard (Wikipedia), whose creation has slowly been teased in the second and third movies by the inclusion of Dr. Kurt Connors, as played by Dylan Baker.
Venom doesn't die. For you'r information he can't die. Peter threw the bomb after the symbiote takes Eddie again. There will be a fourth a fith and a sixth movie. Venom will probably show up in the fourth. I liked Spider-man 3 the most;)
venom died.. but remember the prof of peter? theres a small particle its something that idont know from venom, it will probably conquer the profs body and then walla...
no u dumbass,the prof. becomes the lizard,didnt u ever watch the cartoon u idiot.thats the stupidest thing i ever heard..."the symbiote conquering the profs. body" psssst retard!
is spiderman naked after he tore the venom suit??haha i guess so but itdidnt show..cuz when he is tearing the suit it expose his hands,head,body and so on..
Probably at time, you have seen the film. Venom appears in about five scenes and it takes... ten minutes from the movie, he is not a villain, venom is an estra on spiderman 3. What a shame! ONLY TEN MINUTES!!!! His dead is awful! and Dr- Connors get a piece of the simbionte. The end is poor, no spiderman scene. Well, Are you sure this is the expensivest movie of the story? ... Where the money went out??? ALL THE MOVIE IS TOLD IN THE TRAILER!!!! POOR & VERY COMMERCIAL!
I find it hilarious how at 2:25 he's saying you have to know the character, and after it shows Gwen I think they butchered the character of Gwen!
greengoombastomper 3 weeks ago
worst films of all time
australiakevinp 1 month ago
I LOVE SPIDER-MAN 3!
Harri927 3 months ago
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it suck because you saw venom only on the end
nio1998 5 months ago
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nio1998 5 months ago
Raimi said it all he says he read spider-man in the 70's and Venom is a character in the 80's/90's... Helloooo don't you have access to the fuckin marvel library u ASS!!! They knew this movie was gonna suck!!! Damn them all and Damn Sony for fucking up the Spiderman character
superheromovies 6 months ago
this movie would have been better if venom wasnt in it
sosa4693 7 months ago
@sosa4693 What you meant was; this movie would be better if they portrayed venom as he should have been.
thereaperish17 4 months ago
@thereaperish17 no i meant what i said, not even raimi wanted to use him, venom is played out
sosa4693 4 months ago
@sosa4693 yeah true even though his audience wanted to see venom in this movie, it would have been much better without him. i just hope that if they introduce carnage in spiderman 4, they dont ruin him as well,
i still think that if they portrayed venom as the large bruiser he is in the comics, it would have been a better movie
thereaperish17 4 months ago
@thereaperish17 exactly
sosa4693 4 months ago
Pare em 3:49 e olhem o rosto do Tooby
azinx1231 9 months ago
i hate this fucking movie
doomy88kent 9 months ago
@sres1913
Get the fuck out of here and go be a retard somewhere else
TheWill9528 9 months ago
Stop at 6:16 and look at Toby's face
deathcharm1231 10 months ago
Keep pressing 4 and look at Toby's face
deathcharm1231 10 months ago
i'm the son of sam raimi and i'll tell you why this movie sucked.My dad hated venom but i wanted him there also avi arad wanted him too so my idiotic father put 3 villans in one movie what idiot huh now he is in depression now i'm secretly working with the reboot.
MrIamabitch 1 year ago
@MrIamabitch You're on here pretending to be Sam Raimi's son? Weird!
Craigmin 11 months ago
Man!, I will remember this movie for the rest of my life. What a amazing and well done film.
07Gamboa 1 year ago
Venom should be bigger in size
Rattrap767 1 year ago
7 people got killed by venom
sethz3r0 1 year ago
@sethz3r0 that was just awful
topknot01 1 year ago
@topknot01 ...yah
sethz3r0 1 year ago
just imagine if they made a Spiderman web of shadows movie? Man that's gonna take a lot of black paint.
DeathIsEz 1 year ago
I only watched spiderman 3 just to see the black suit
DeathIsEz 1 year ago
Sam Raimi is a legend!
BrickMasher 1 year ago
MJ have yellow-ish hair now???
did the director just said "HAIRY Osborn"?!?! xD
xiaoli26 1 year ago
Raimi is such a fail!!!
FreeeeS 1 year ago
@FreeeeS You must be an Epic Fail for saying this Director is "fail"... -.-
TheDM75 1 year ago
female make spiderweb haha
don20057 2 years ago
@don20057 dumb dick head
FreeeeS 1 year ago
5:54 - 6:02
Then why the fuck didn't you make the whole movie with just Sandman?!
TheFishyOneSKiT 2 years ago
spider man 4 is suppose to be in 3d for what ive heard
Duane237 2 years ago
They will starting making the Spider Man 4 in February or March of 2010!
MTBportugal 2 years ago
i love this saga is amazing
zo3nalle 2 years ago
i wanna know how they did that last part
DanielSevilla17 2 years ago
the only reason venom was there was cos fans wanted him,then they bitched tht there was too many villains,even though i think he should of had his own movie
JiMMyJaM08061991 2 years ago
Sam raimi didnt care about venom because he didnt read him in the comic he was only focused on the villains hes familiar with, not caring what the fans want.
chel821 2 years ago
i know tht
JiMMyJaM08061991 2 years ago
cant wait for spider-man 4 woot!!
darkchief118 2 years ago 3
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this is not the MAKING
MINDWORM621 2 years ago
spiderman 4 in 2011 year !!!
durmenijala 3 years ago 14
they still making it ? how is the story leading up to
mrblackmamba866 2 years ago
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darkchiefReborn 1 year ago
@durmenijala i want it to come out i wonder who is the bads lol
SuperMisfits13 1 year ago
@durmenijala not anymore :) its a remake
quechus13 1 year ago
@durmenijala There will be no Spider-Man 4 it's rebooted
deathcharm1231 10 months ago
@durmenijala no summer 2012 !
xStarkstromx 6 months ago
@durmenijala that's not gonna happen.
pamelazanest 2 months ago 2
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costaricarealestate 2 months ago
@durmenijala aww... that sucks, as long as you weren't too excited.
memememe405 2 days ago
I just saw the 3rd one, it was completely AMAZING! :) cant wait till spiderman 4
yellowlemon12 3 years ago 6
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@yellowlemon12 aww... that sucks, as long as you weren't too excited.
memememe405 2 days ago
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i liked the firs two movies. the last one was annoying.
lovelyspringweather 3 years ago
all the spiderman movies are and will always be exellent
hitsugaya448899 3 years ago
Kirsten reminds me of my once-love but she was a real redhead:)
gerhajdu 3 years ago
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tobie is tragic actor, u dont know when this dude laugh or cry, same face always
dondrapichrust 3 years ago
This movie it's just amazing!!!!!
Davidrsq 3 years ago 6
Yes, Arkfeller.
chrisminator19 3 years ago
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Why did Harry told Peter to shut up for? Peter and Harry have been friends for a long time. He cannot tell Peter to shut up like that.
chrisminator19 3 years ago
Did you actually watch the end of Spiderman?
(the first one)
Arkfeller 3 years ago
Friends do that.
sdkjhsdglih 3 years ago 4
he told peter to shutup cuz peter said that harries dad killed himself by trying to kill him
Grimreaper905 3 years ago 3
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sexydanny21awesome 4 years ago
you spelled "bored" wrong.
chisellerdrums 4 years ago 3
so why wud u spell it wrong on purpose if u're tryin get a point across??
silent23death 4 years ago
dude... dats german.. haha..
just chillax man and check ur spellings eh?
silent23death 4 years ago 3
i wonder wat would happen if harry bonded with the symbiote
kyleaznfcuk 4 years ago 5
electro and maybe lizard plus venom in spiderman 4 would be awesome!!
wuzheredontcare 4 years ago
all the persons seems so sick and tired at this interview.raimi dunst and tobby talk like somebody put a gun in their head for making this movie. also we fans feel same for that serie,movie serie goes to be a crap,we all 80s spidey fans wish that serie will continue with a new director and new actor/actress.
hexenexen 4 years ago
I wish Bryce got to do an interview related to this.
spidermanfan7 4 years ago
the aesthetics of a digital realm
bigpiimpiiin 4 years ago
SPidy fans you only have you own selves to blame why venom was crap, you wanted to have him in it. raimi didnt, he wanted sandman and harry, leaving venom for spidy 4, but noo you and your ignorance, persuaded the producer arad to put him in, causing a mush of storylines making venom come and go like a fart in a breeze
DirectorOli 4 years ago
totally
smlshin 4 years ago
I thought Venom was good...but yea he shoulda been in SM4, I hope he comes back
Vide0sPlz 4 years ago 9
@Vide0sPlz Venom is dead. Peter threw a pumpkin bomb at the symbiote and when Eddie jumps back in, the symbiote and Eddie were vaporized. And anyway Spider-Man 4 was canceled because of Sam Raimi's withdrawal.
sres1913 11 months ago
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dude i agree
i didnt want venom
to be honest i didnt want sandman niether
i wanted harry as the new goblin and electro in spiderman 3
and venom and carnage in 4
mammapingu 4 years ago
Bull****.
Sargent KNEW that the script was too complex for a single movie, but his lack of talent left him incapable of writing an intermediate climax, so he went ahead and ****ed up the movie anyways.
Don't blame Arad's ignorance on the fans: sure, we wanted Venom, but we also wanted a good ****ing story. They could have included Venom at the very end, setting him up as a main character for the fourth movie, and I guarantee that most of the fans would have been ecstatic.
TheGameJedi 4 years ago
im not going to play the blame game but i think they should have done is had harry and Sandman be the villans in this one and then at the end have Brock become Venom thurs seting us up for Spidey 4 that would have been awesome but oh well im just hoping that Venom makes a return for spidey 4 along with The Lizard since its possible that venom could have survivored the explosion at the end thats what im hoping anyway
maxg316 4 years ago
at 2:08, when james franco says "to destroy spiderman" he says spiderman like spoiderman. does he have an accent?
andyserkis 4 years ago 2
actually he says spidoman
haroonkhan23 4 years ago
it sounds like he says spoonoman
mammapingu 4 years ago
kirsten had a nasy attitude here>_<
encyclo1782 4 years ago
I think the villains in the next one will be carnage lizard and hobgoblin. The only reason i think its hobgoblin is because if harry and norman are dead, who gets the house with the goblin goodies in it? The butler could have gotten it of course but eventually if the butler inherited their money, it would dwindle away and he wouldnt really be able to live in the house anymore. whoever buys it i think will find the goblin stuff and decide a forge a goblin path of his own.
jwbstudios 4 years ago
tobey now has a mustache and a facial hair down
keyblade09 4 years ago
I like Spider-Man 3... I don't see why everyone objects to it. It tells and honest and emotional story. Sure it is a bit more silly than the previous 2, but come on, it is still awesome.
Plus, some friends of mine that hated it at first went to it a second time with me, and they totally changed their opinions. I would suggest all the haters do that...
MaximumMadnessStixon 4 years ago 4
Man! The special effects are amazing!
FreeFatma 4 years ago
to me, harry osborn as the new green goblin and sandman were the only villians needed for spiderman 3. when sam raimi explains the reasons why he chose those villians, it really makes sense. venom is only there because one of the produces was only thinking about the fans and the box office, not the story or peter parker's journey. i'm not saying venon wasn't great in the film. he was, but i just don't think there was no reason for him as a villian.
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xXJAVXx 4 years ago
Ok Dumbfucks if they want to put carnage eddie shoundn't have died eddie shold have said peter no and didn't so he would go to jail then peter tells dr. conors that eddie is safe and sound without the symbiote and the symbiote in the lab heard that went to the jail eats eddie and the blood goes on the suit and goes on kletus kasady ok.
fuger8077 4 years ago
Rumors are not always true, they usually start something bad.
ericinghammontevista 4 years ago
Eddie turned into a skeleton you blind dumbasses! And please god no freaking Carnage!!!!
theamazingspideremil 4 years ago
Check out this clip "Spider-man 3 -Did Jhing make the cut?" She seems cool, but she's gotta be pissed.
bobb0707 4 years ago
sam raimi says some shit about how kids want venom. well kids didn't want venom to look like shit did they dumb ass?
yo1337man 4 years ago
He doesnt design the suit, Raimi didnt even want Venom in the movie at first cus he thought he's too un-humanlike, did u hear him say it was his producer that told him about the kids?
Pintofrost2 4 years ago
they will put*
dudzmasterz423 4 years ago
spiderman 3,4,5,6,7 are the best! They did until 7 only bcus instead of SPIDER-MAN 7, they will THE DEATH OF SPIDERMAN
dudzmasterz423 4 years ago
EricCarrlsGod is right thats what i was thinking
darthneji1992 4 years ago
this is the best film there will b
Dragonball4eva 4 years ago
Spiderman 4 (I Think)
Peter & MJ finally get married
Dr. Connors turns into Lizard: runs into Cletus Kassady who later gets arrested.
The symbiote that Dr. Connors had escapes and attaches itself to Kassady
TBA
EricCarrIsGod 4 years ago
nice video hasnaad bhaijan
UmarDin 4 years ago
I'll make it simple and short what i wont in sp4.
Venom comes back
quickly captured by spidey goes to jail
is with jail mate physopathic serial killer cletus kascky (carnage)
venom tries to get rid of the symbiote
joins to carnage
become best friends
try to destroy spiderman
(best film ever if sony could get that right)!!!
lilyounan 4 years ago
wow..how do u know??
tew7 4 years ago
yeah dude. but how can venom come back? eddie died.
Dragonball4eva 4 years ago
The symbiote brings him back to life.. like in the comic? also people thats just my hopes not wahtas really going to happen :p
lilyounan 4 years ago
part of it was left with dr. connors dumb ass if you watched the movie you would know
ericinghammontevista 4 years ago
i watched the movie u shit. the symbiote that doc conners had will come 2 cletus and not eddie u lol
Dragonball4eva 4 years ago
Chinga tu padre
ericinghammontevista 4 years ago
No shit, Eddie is dead, I watched the movie 5 fucking times
ericinghammontevista 4 years ago
I think that the both, Carnage and Lizard are coming in SM 4.
MasterBluemail 4 years ago
bringing in carnage would be to sudden
they have to dr. connors as the lizard
cause they held his story back for so long
jappyfosho 4 years ago
damm i hate harry to die..i think he is way better than his dad..
tew7 4 years ago
i love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SilviaRulez 4 years ago
well i wonder how can dr conners take a symbiote and become the lizard?? it doesnt make sense right??i dunno sorry if i am wrong..
tew7 4 years ago
if u play ultimate spiderman game in ps2 carnage is peter they wanna test some experiment so they use it on peter..try the game and see..i wish spiderman 4 wil come out..
tew7 4 years ago
actually spiderman 4 was formally announced, and in spiderman 4 venom will appear again. other villaiins also will appear. try to search spiderman or spiderman 4 on yahoo movies...
lireo2000 4 years ago
thanks..i will..
tew7 4 years ago
everyone who wants to know if there will be spiderman 4.. go to the fallowing yahoomovies>search spiderman4 .. dr. conners will become the lizard..
lireo2000 4 years ago
thanks..
tew7 4 years ago
hey dun have also the movie in yahoo lireo2000??tell me how..
tew7 4 years ago
Venom can't appear again, because Brock is dead. If the symbiote bonded with someone else it wouldn't create another venom, but someone new. Such as Carnage.
Goatmon 4 years ago
yeah eddie brock is dead, i was wrong..and sorry for that.. maybe carnage will appear in 4th movie... you can also get other information in yahoo movies.. just search for spider-man 4...
lireo2000 4 years ago
i cant find any spiderman trailer or anythin to do wit spiderman 4 at yahoo movies..
tew7 4 years ago
spider man for will come out.. i misunderstood.. i thougth that dr conners wil become the venom but iwas wrong... dr conners is the one who will become the lizard..Sony hasn't officially announced any plans for a release date yet, but a summer release is a sure thing, and it will probably be in either 2009 or 2010. With many changes in the cast and crew possible between the third and fourth movie, 2010 seems most likely at this point, unless Sony announces 2009.
lireo2000 4 years ago
hmmm so dr conners wont take the symbiote and become the lizard???
but i think that carnage wil appear cuz in the comic books carnage is a prisoner but i dunno the name..
tew7 4 years ago
venom does die STUPID!!
jayl4c 4 years ago
There's a good chance Tobey might do a Spidey 4, the villains for the 4th will obviously be the lizard, and carnage. Because dr. connors has some of the symbiote and he will use it to become the lizard. Oh and also venom is not dead so he may come back, oh wait Sam Raimis directing, no he wont.
spidermanfan528 4 years ago
toby is not coming for sp3
shanktheman 4 years ago
i wonder if they will make a Spiderman Four
makosharkman 4 years ago
lol tjeck the facts idot before saying anything...there is coming a fourth one
pikhoved14 4 years ago
yup i support u pikhoved14 there will be spiderman 4 or mayb 5..
tew7 4 years ago
Spider-Man has a large rogue's gallery of villains who have yet to be brought to the big screen including Electro, Mysterio, Rhino, the Vulture and many more. Two strong possibilities for this fourth movie are the return of Venom, who is introduced in the second half of Spider-Man 3 and the Lizard (Wikipedia), whose creation has slowly been teased in the second and third movies by the inclusion of Dr. Kurt Connors, as played by Dylan Baker.
lireo2000 4 years ago
the end of spiderman in venom mode is the birth of venom rite..haha..
tew7 4 years ago
i love spiderman 3 but i dun think so its gonna end..remember sandman he wont die guys he just fly away with the wind..he is still not dead..
tew7 4 years ago
is spiderman 3 gonna end here??damm i hate them..
tew7 4 years ago
Venom doesn't die. For you'r information he can't die. Peter threw the bomb after the symbiote takes Eddie again. There will be a fourth a fith and a sixth movie. Venom will probably show up in the fourth. I liked Spider-man 3 the most;)
Ryprus 4 years ago
is it??how come venom wont die??
tew7 4 years ago
venom died.. but remember the prof of peter? theres a small particle its something that idont know from venom, it will probably conquer the profs body and then walla...
lireo2000 4 years ago
no u dumbass,the prof. becomes the lizard,didnt u ever watch the cartoon u idiot.thats the stupidest thing i ever heard..."the symbiote conquering the profs. body" psssst retard!
francescoakajoker 4 years ago
yeah, there will be a 4th or 5th part.. because there are characters that are not yet shown like carnage, war machine and iron man and etc..
lireo2000 4 years ago
i watched it on 1st may very cool
Tiyong55 4 years ago
is spiderman naked after he tore the venom suit??haha i guess so but itdidnt show..cuz when he is tearing the suit it expose his hands,head,body and so on..
tew7 4 years ago
Probably at time, you have seen the film. Venom appears in about five scenes and it takes... ten minutes from the movie, he is not a villain, venom is an estra on spiderman 3. What a shame! ONLY TEN MINUTES!!!! His dead is awful! and Dr- Connors get a piece of the simbionte. The end is poor, no spiderman scene. Well, Are you sure this is the expensivest movie of the story? ... Where the money went out??? ALL THE MOVIE IS TOLD IN THE TRAILER!!!! POOR & VERY COMMERCIAL!
termiactor 4 years ago
I saw the movie today...it was awsome and its worth watching, besides im a big fan of MARVEL/Spiderman!
nemury 4 years ago