Jesus discriminates SINS, EVIL, AND ALL WICKEDNESS FROM MEN..YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN TO ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD...YOU MUST COME TO THE FOOT OF THE CROSS AND THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM TO HAVE ALL YOUR SINS CAST OUT (REPENT) AND FORGIVING AND WASHED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS. ITS THE GOSPEL TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
...Also the meaning that Paul gave to "arsenokoitai" has to be unpacked in light of Romans 1:2427. When Paul speaks of the sexual intercourse of males with males (arsenes en arsenes) in v. 27, he obviously has in mind arsenokoitai.
The most credible translation of what Paul is condemning in 1 Corinthians 6:9 is a person doing exactly what Leviticus condemns: engaging in homosexual sex (a man being a man-lier). Far from dismissing the relevance of Leviticus, Paul is implicitly invoking its enduring validity for our understanding of sexual sin, and drawing on it as the foundation of his teaching on homosexual conduct. He is saying, Remember what it said not to do in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13? Dont do that!
@gr8deals2do - St Paul had a hang-up about ALL sex. He was celibate and said:
"Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." 1 Cor 7:8-9
"An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairshow he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this worldhow he can please his wife.." 1 Cor 7:32-:33
@gr8deals2do ALL the early Christians were anti-sex and anti-marriage. Matthew (22:30) says that in the ideal world "people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven". He praised those who "became eunuchs" and "renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven" [Matt 19:12]. Jesus repeatedly told people to leave their wives and families (Mark 10:29-30, Luke 18:29-30, Matt 19:29). So much for "Christian marriage" and "family values".
The Greek translation of these Leviticus 18:22, 20:13 passages condemns a man (arseno) lying with (koitai) another man (arseno); these words (excuse the pun) lie side-by-side in these passages in Leviticus. Paul joins these two words together into a neologism and thus he condemns in 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy what was condemned in Leviticus.
"If two men have sex, and one of them has a girlfriend, the two men should not have sex in the bed where that woman sleeps, because that would disrespect her. Of course, if she is okay with it, go for it." This is the true translation
Gays can join any church or faith they want, but it doesn't mean they will be in Heaven one day. A person who lives the Gay lifestyle is not Born Again.They will not enter Heaven because God is Holy and the path to Him is narrow. It is Scripture and it is Truth. Like it or not.
Love one another in Holy love as Christ loves the church. It is a pure Holy love not a perverted love. To say you know God and truly love God means to accept everything He says. His Word is ordained and given to us by Holy inspiration from His Apostles. He left us His Word and my Bible is not the Catholic Bible, you spoke of. I know the history of the early church, their epistles all the way to the 1611 English Bible. I am born again through the regeneration Jesus spoke of in His Gospel
Why are very important texts not in the bible ? In first verses Gospel of John, you read the word "WORD", it is impossible that this "Word" refers to the bible (because all bibles were made more then 300 years later). With the word "Word" he didn't mean "bible", but smth spiritually. + Jesus WON from Satan. That's why He won't condemn souls FOREVER in Hell. Lamentations 3 v31, Psalms 100 v 5, Ps 106v1 107v1+ end Micha sustain universal reconciliation
Not if you study the Greek text. I have the Bible in Greek-from original manuscript and in Hebrew. Jesus is God. He was with God at the Creation. I am born again. My life is about obedience to God. I give up myself so He can live through me. I have no desire to fulfill the flesh. Though I have to war with it until Time is completed. We must shine as lights in a dark world. It is important that others see Christ in us or they will die and go to Hell. That must be a burden to all who are saved
Based on the second part of your comment: You are thinking that you can live as it makes you feel because you are taking Lamentations (wrong) and assuming you will not be condemned to a Hell? Jesus spoke more than ANYONE else about Hell. There is one, and all that are not born again will be there. Don't fool yourself, please. Don't let Satan fool you. He is a master deceiver and God warns us the deception will increase as we approach the end.
O, but I do believe Hell exists, I didn't say I didn't. I know or believe many souls are there BUT the punishments cant be eternalc I explained, I go no further here about this, once you'll encounter the person of this channel again -Godwilling-+ I ask now Jesus Christ 2 bless u + teach u that His Grace is NOT LIMITED as you say. Also from Hell souls can go to Jesus.Yes : People have 2 try 2 live by His Will, 2become "spiritually reborn".
Read what Jesus says in John 3:3-7. Titus 3:5 explains the regeneration is being SPIRITUALLY BORN. A work that is done by the Holy Spirit and you should be able to recall when that event happened in your life (John 1:13).Also read Ephesians 5:26,27 and Ephesians2:5.
also Leviticus 10:3 God says He is to be regarded as Holy. John 11: 26 Jesus says he who lIVES in Christ and believes in Christ is saved. Ephesians 2 says Have that mind in you which is in Christ Jesus-Jesus is not homosexual
So, that's solved then : As I believe in Christ and try to live in Christ, I'm saved, as you say so. Jesus has conquerred aLL sins. If He has conquerred ALL sins, He MUST have been (a non practicing !) homosexual. He must have felt a samesex attraction, to have conquerred the practice of gay lustfull sex as sin. Do know that there exists something like homophilia (= GAY LOVE), LOVE EACH OTHER is what Jesussaid we should be doing.
Anyhow, i want to close convers.. thnks for info. God bless'
Hell exists only insofar as a cyclic celestial occurrence repetitively destroys the earth during which the greatest fire ever known envelopes the Earth. True, it lingers for ages in the minds of survivors. But their descendants never fail to distort its true meaning, and live in an unreasonable fear of its return, while those in power (i.e. organized religion) hold the information, and corrupt it for greed and continual power. Enter S.I.N.
Read above comment. Dont fool yourself, please. Read a book about the universe. And read between the lines of that Bible you people preach while knowing nothing of it. Also, Satan is a celestial occurrence personified, understandable for those who endured the event, but corrupted beyond all reason and paranoia today. Indeed, God is the cosmos personified. And the christ IS the anti-christ. Just as Harry is Lord Voldemort, you fools.
@mateogalandesoto I know the Bible and read it. One thing I have learned is that most of the people that claim salvation will never see God and do not have eternal life.
@nodoubt257 Indeed God does not exist, and eternal life is not what people think. Most will not have it, and you have to sign a contract, Just as even the Jehovas Witnesses believe basing their info on the early Greek word for faith, which precisely carried the connotation of "a promise of something to come" as if with a contract. Does anyone realize that we are quite literally LIVING the Bible?
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites(arsenokoitai) will inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 6:9 NKJV).
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 forbid a man lying with another man as one would with a woman.
Look at first video of my favourites bout the gay loverelation of David and Jonathan, book of Samuel.
And do know that Jesus came to bring a SPIRITUAL message, He said that we have to look to the things as they are "in spirit and truth". Gay people that love each other and come out for it don't LIE, they speak the truth.that they love another guy, as it would be their wife. And that's now "spirit an truth". We don't have to look at the bodies but at the INNER SOULS. who love each other.
are you telling me that Jesus allow a male have sex with other a male ? are you telling me that Jesus approved gay can have sex gay and they can go to the heaven ?
I'm a Christian Universalist. I don't' believe that a LOVING FATHER would punish one of His children FOREVER. The word forever is in fact a wrong translation of greek "aionios", what can mean "a long time", not eternal.
Gays are PEOPLE like other people, they are CREATED BY THE LORD :
Homophilia/homophile comes from Greek homos = equa end philein = to love. Jesus said to love one another, so Jesus can never condemn real love between people.Love is eternal ! (See Corinthians).
God is Just and Holy. Everything He does is Just, Righteous and Holy. NO ONE will be in His presence that is unclean and in a state of sin. That would include all people living in a gay relationship. If you think God would not or could not punish sin then I think it 's about time you open up a Bible and start reading it and praying for God to open your eyes to the Truth because God is going to judge this world and He will punish sin. If you truly are a Christian you can handle these words
In the bible it is written that we have all (including you) sinned. BUT
Please look at the first video of my favourites.
It comes out of the bible.
BTW : Do you know who wrote the bible and who put the 66 books and chose them in Nicea 4th century, to make "the bible". May Jesus Christ our common Heavenly Father bless you with His Divine Love and Grace
I didn't say or write that.Certain is that they will come in heaven, like all people once will (maybe after a long time). About ANY KIND OF SEX : If it's not done out of love it's sinfull. But the WORD "SIN" has another meaning if you know that Jesus will forgive you. We have to do our best. But 1 thing is sure : Jesus doesn't HATE ANYONE.HE IS PURE LOVE. According to a recent prophet (I can tell you more about him if you want), we will evolve in the Afterlife to the angels we once were ! ♥
I say that Jesus preached Male-Male sex, that he himself practiced it, that Heaven is the Milky Way, that hell is a celestial destruction of Earth (Read Earth Under Fire) come from the Milky Way, that Eden is the New Earth, a New Chance to do right. And only few will survive, and they shall decide whether or not to follow the Law, and the Law is Love and Love IS the Law.
Love is not a smoke screen....I have never felt that any words or arguments are intellectually disingenuous. If anyone stretches the truth it is the Christian right that twist and uses to their benefit what they wish to have the "text" interpreted, I am so tired of the holier than thou attitude, I had to deal with it when I was a child of God growing up and have just been able to make my way back into the fray after being alienated by these people. I am Christian and gay and get used to it!!
Wow... there are a couple things I would like to say. Matthew 19: 10-12, eunuchs were not homosexual, they were people w/ decreased (or no) sexual drive.II Samuel 1:26, Jonathan was David's son. Please read the whole chapter.Ruth chapters 1-3. Ruth was married, her husband died, Naomi looked at her as a daughter and sought to get her married (and did) get her remarried.
..who *quoting myself* miraculously (in these last days, where the Lord Jesus and His Apostles warned of being full of great deception & false teachers/-ings) find out "truths" that were hidden to the church for over 1900 years.
"There is nothing new in theology - except for the false." Spurgeon
The Lord Jesus will NOT establish His kingdom through the church, that is false JWs- or charismatic-/pentecostal-like "kingdom now" theology.
Deception and apostasy will grow and arise and the Lord Jesus will rapture His church. Later he will return visibly to everyone for judgment and then establish His kingdom here on earth.
Although they will see Him and His reign then, they still will sin (as man is wicked all through his heart), but in that time, sin will be judged immediately.
There are two kingdoms (or different aspects of it):
1) the "invisible" one: the Lord Jesus dwelling within the believer (since pentecost) = the church = the one that passage refers to
2) the visible one, when He returns to this earth to reign in Jerusalem
Anyway, I see no point to further discuss Holy/Godly issues with an unbeliever.. Or even worse, someone who -seemingly- once knew (of) THE truth and the gospel an traded it for humanistic, man-made ideas :-(
"the one that passage refers to " Well, that's your opinion. The scripture doesn't actually say that, but don't let that slow you down. "Heb 6: 4-6) Repent!" You have a very strange way of using scripture. The passage you refer to actually says that someone like myself CANNOT repent! For it is impossible to bring back to repentance those who were once enlightened...and who then turn away from God. It is impossible to bring such people back to repentance" Hebrews 6:4 - 6 Just read the book, man.
Why do you so adamantly emphasize the part that you feel does not apply to you, 'Tube? Let's be honest. Let's be rational. Let's not use a treatise against condemnation as a tool to condemn. The Bible ALSO says that believers have NO business judging those outside the church. 1 Corinthians 5: 12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. So please, stop misusing the teachings of your ""master."
Your point (1Cor 5) confirms what I meant, as this video is about people who want to bring sodomy INTO the church.
God's Word teaches that saved people can sin - but if someone chooses to integrate sin into their life (even claiming it be no sin) than he has to be dealt with (1Cor 5).
I always wonder how people miraculously (in these last, apostate days) find out truths that were hidden to the church for over 1900 years.
"There is nothing new in theology - except for the false." Spurgeon
Of course they / I can - read the rest of 1.John ;)
The Bible also teaches that those that leave God's truth and turn to sin will not see things clearly anymore; they will be deceived (It even speaks of a spirit of deception that they receive) - God "gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another." (From Romans 1)
Romans 1:22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.
"whosoever sinneth, hath not seen him, nor known him. .. LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU. He that commmitteth sin is of the devil. Whosoever is born of God, COMMITTETH NOT SIN: for his seed abideth in him, and he CAN NOT SIN, because he is born of God." 1 John 3 Those who are born of God CAN NOT sin. So says the Bible.
The shortened condensed version:.....My plea in this is, read and seek for yourselves and PLEASE DON"T TAKE THE BIBLE OUT OF CONTEXT. Let the scripture itself be its own explanation. READ the word of the lord, please READ ALL OF THE WORD. I've been in the position where I wanted to overlook parts of it because its applied to me and when I've accepted those parts that do apply to me, I'm always corrected and restored. I Really hope you guys listen. Our souls are at stake.
The answer is obviously "No, He would not discriminate against homosexuals." Jesus of Nazareth was not an idiot; however MOST of the people who claim to follow His teachings are ignorant of said teachings, yet at the.same time they are aggressively opinionated about these very same teachings. Exhibit A: This video. It is a strange phenomenon that most persons that are considered to be religiously "Christian" know very little about Jesus. For starters I suggest Gibran's "Jesus the Son of Man"
Continued research of Homosexuality has found not a cure to an illness, but the fact that Homosexuality is a prenatal development, a natural occurrence that takes place in the womb, long before birth and is irrevocable after birth.
You are incorrect. You do not know everything as much as we do not know everything. Please do not think you are right about homosexuality. The homosexualities is very mystery and hard for us to understand the history. One thing you need to read:
This cruel theory blames the parents and guardians of the child and, now with modern science developments, conflicts with these past findings.
Exactly. I am glad to see that there is someone who has taken the time to learn the philosophy of the man called Jesus of Nazareth. The Hypocrite, as you explained, is the only type of person that He discriminated against. Why do most "Christian" people not know this fact? Why do most "Christian" people know little-to-nothing about Jesus? It is a curious phenomenon.
This is fuckin stupid..u r dumbasses maybe if u told people to read the whole chapter and not jus certain verses they would see that what ur saying is taking one thing and making it out to be sumtin completely different,thtz stupid...u are the same way as all the other groups who try to justify what they are doing by taking a part of the bible and pretending that one sentence means something that it doesnt,it clearly says everything if you read the whole thing and not jus those certain parts.
"Neither do I condemn you." You haven't read this in your Bible? Try John chapter 8. "They must be put to death.. (Leviticus 20:13)" So you're gonna start killing people now? Smart-mouthed teenagers, adulterers, fornicators? Listen, McCain, you're using obsolete laws here. Jesus replaced the old covenant with the new covenant. The Jewish law is done, finished, kaput. Unless you're an orthodox Jew. Which is the ONLY people that law ever did apply to.
Jesus did not do away with the law. Read your bible. He came to fulfill the law. He died so we would not have to. He did not say live your life anyway you want.
Justify it all you want. We all know that it is not just immoral, but unnatural. Some things just don't go in certain holes.
"So I guess we should kill and steal and have sex with underage children?" Did I say that? Where do you get this from? Not from anything I've said. If you want to make up both sides of the argument you don't need my responses. It's called "masturbation" - repetitive solitary activity for your own pleasure. "Should be marry our sisters too." Is that what you'd like to do? I have no objections.
You try and use biblical context, twist it, to justify your life style.
Good luck... Your not worth my time.
Your twisted mind is made up. Have a nice time trying to convince Americans gay marriage is okay. We will work extremely hard in our groups and churches to defend out stance!
Jesus Christ did discriminate and will discriminate again. He discriminates between sinners and saints, those who reject his grace and those who accept it.
God is pure love, yet God is simultaneously purely righteous and just in nature. Thereby God must judge mankind for their transgressions, for there is no justice in pardoning. Yet God offered Himself on the cross to pay the penalty of those who accept his sacrifice for them as valid.
There's judgement, everything else is unscriptural.
more ppl need to accept differences im glad to see not everyone is hiding in fear of others opinions. ya the bible said one man one woman but if he loves us all equally who are we to judge what is right and wrong we arent God. im not gay but i have a great friend who is gay and i dont love him any less than the rest of my friends. u make me proud to be a christian! thank u
There's clearly a punishment for those who aren't following Christ and renewed by His spirit. There was no prophet who warned more extensively about Sheol and Judgement than Jesus.
''And these will depart into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
''And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.''
Don't dismiss the Word of God. There will be no manifestation of the Holy Spirit in such a congregation and no healing for the body.
my name is nick , I'm getting discriminatedin other words I'm getting judged
1, I ride the city bus ,at 9:45am(bus 3) their is a passger(also my neighbor ) she best friends with the bus driver donna, she is telling her to kick me off,because of my race an disability
2.my neighbor(the passger on the bus)is judging me and my friend vern she thinks we are gay because we hang out, but we are not gay,
Jesus discriminates SINS, EVIL, AND ALL WICKEDNESS FROM MEN..YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN TO ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD...YOU MUST COME TO THE FOOT OF THE CROSS AND THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM TO HAVE ALL YOUR SINS CAST OUT (REPENT) AND FORGIVING AND WASHED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS. ITS THE GOSPEL TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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...Also the meaning that Paul gave to "arsenokoitai" has to be unpacked in light of Romans 1:2427. When Paul speaks of the sexual intercourse of males with males (arsenes en arsenes) in v. 27, he obviously has in mind arsenokoitai.
gr8deals2do 1 year ago
The most credible translation of what Paul is condemning in 1 Corinthians 6:9 is a person doing exactly what Leviticus condemns: engaging in homosexual sex (a man being a man-lier). Far from dismissing the relevance of Leviticus, Paul is implicitly invoking its enduring validity for our understanding of sexual sin, and drawing on it as the foundation of his teaching on homosexual conduct. He is saying, Remember what it said not to do in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13? Dont do that!
gr8deals2do 1 year ago
@gr8deals2do - St Paul had a hang-up about ALL sex. He was celibate and said:
"Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." 1 Cor 7:8-9
"An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairshow he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this worldhow he can please his wife.." 1 Cor 7:32-:33
EqualAndFree 1 year ago
@gr8deals2do ALL the early Christians were anti-sex and anti-marriage. Matthew (22:30) says that in the ideal world "people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven". He praised those who "became eunuchs" and "renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven" [Matt 19:12]. Jesus repeatedly told people to leave their wives and families (Mark 10:29-30, Luke 18:29-30, Matt 19:29). So much for "Christian marriage" and "family values".
EqualAndFree 1 year ago
they were not anti-sex. They were homosexuals
mateogalandesoto 1 year ago
The Greek translation of these Leviticus 18:22, 20:13 passages condemns a man (arseno) lying with (koitai) another man (arseno); these words (excuse the pun) lie side-by-side in these passages in Leviticus. Paul joins these two words together into a neologism and thus he condemns in 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy what was condemned in Leviticus.
gr8deals2do 1 year ago
"If two men have sex, and one of them has a girlfriend, the two men should not have sex in the bed where that woman sleeps, because that would disrespect her. Of course, if she is okay with it, go for it." This is the true translation
mateogalandesoto 1 year ago
Gays can join any church or faith they want, but it doesn't mean they will be in Heaven one day. A person who lives the Gay lifestyle is not Born Again.They will not enter Heaven because God is Holy and the path to Him is narrow. It is Scripture and it is Truth. Like it or not.
nodoubt257 1 year ago
What do you mean with the Gay Lifestyle ?
And what about the Hetero-lifestyle ?
And do you consider yourselfd as spiritual reborn ?
And is everything what is written by humans (like the biblebooks)100% the truth ?
For me is a guy loves a guys, he does what Jesus told to do : Lovea each other, don' judge. LEt Him be the judge.
Christ' bless'
♥♂♂,♀♀♥
Holebis 1 year ago
Love one another in Holy love as Christ loves the church. It is a pure Holy love not a perverted love. To say you know God and truly love God means to accept everything He says. His Word is ordained and given to us by Holy inspiration from His Apostles. He left us His Word and my Bible is not the Catholic Bible, you spoke of. I know the history of the early church, their epistles all the way to the 1611 English Bible. I am born again through the regeneration Jesus spoke of in His Gospel
nodoubt257 1 year ago
How do you know you're born again ? +
Why are very important texts not in the bible ? In first verses Gospel of John, you read the word "WORD", it is impossible that this "Word" refers to the bible (because all bibles were made more then 300 years later). With the word "Word" he didn't mean "bible", but smth spiritually. + Jesus WON from Satan. That's why He won't condemn souls FOREVER in Hell. Lamentations 3 v31, Psalms 100 v 5, Ps 106v1 107v1+ end Micha sustain universal reconciliation
Holebis 1 year ago
Not if you study the Greek text. I have the Bible in Greek-from original manuscript and in Hebrew. Jesus is God. He was with God at the Creation. I am born again. My life is about obedience to God. I give up myself so He can live through me. I have no desire to fulfill the flesh. Though I have to war with it until Time is completed. We must shine as lights in a dark world. It is important that others see Christ in us or they will die and go to Hell. That must be a burden to all who are saved
nodoubt257 1 year ago
Based on the second part of your comment: You are thinking that you can live as it makes you feel because you are taking Lamentations (wrong) and assuming you will not be condemned to a Hell? Jesus spoke more than ANYONE else about Hell. There is one, and all that are not born again will be there. Don't fool yourself, please. Don't let Satan fool you. He is a master deceiver and God warns us the deception will increase as we approach the end.
nodoubt257 1 year ago
O, but I do believe Hell exists, I didn't say I didn't. I know or believe many souls are there BUT the punishments cant be eternalc I explained, I go no further here about this, once you'll encounter the person of this channel again -Godwilling-+ I ask now Jesus Christ 2 bless u + teach u that His Grace is NOT LIMITED as you say. Also from Hell souls can go to Jesus.Yes : People have 2 try 2 live by His Will, 2become "spiritually reborn".
But the Q is what does "spiritual reborn" mean ♥
Holebis 1 year ago
Read what Jesus says in John 3:3-7. Titus 3:5 explains the regeneration is being SPIRITUALLY BORN. A work that is done by the Holy Spirit and you should be able to recall when that event happened in your life (John 1:13).Also read Ephesians 5:26,27 and Ephesians2:5.
also Leviticus 10:3 God says He is to be regarded as Holy. John 11: 26 Jesus says he who lIVES in Christ and believes in Christ is saved. Ephesians 2 says Have that mind in you which is in Christ Jesus-Jesus is not homosexual
nodoubt257 1 year ago
So, that's solved then : As I believe in Christ and try to live in Christ, I'm saved, as you say so. Jesus has conquerred aLL sins. If He has conquerred ALL sins, He MUST have been (a non practicing !) homosexual. He must have felt a samesex attraction, to have conquerred the practice of gay lustfull sex as sin. Do know that there exists something like homophilia (= GAY LOVE), LOVE EACH OTHER is what Jesussaid we should be doing.
Anyhow, i want to close convers.. thnks for info. God bless'
Holebis 1 year ago
He was a practicing homosexual, doubtless. Ask me why if interested.
mateogalandesoto 1 year ago
Hell exists only insofar as a cyclic celestial occurrence repetitively destroys the earth during which the greatest fire ever known envelopes the Earth. True, it lingers for ages in the minds of survivors. But their descendants never fail to distort its true meaning, and live in an unreasonable fear of its return, while those in power (i.e. organized religion) hold the information, and corrupt it for greed and continual power. Enter S.I.N.
mateogalandesoto 1 year ago
Read above comment. Dont fool yourself, please. Read a book about the universe. And read between the lines of that Bible you people preach while knowing nothing of it. Also, Satan is a celestial occurrence personified, understandable for those who endured the event, but corrupted beyond all reason and paranoia today. Indeed, God is the cosmos personified. And the christ IS the anti-christ. Just as Harry is Lord Voldemort, you fools.
mateogalandesoto 1 year ago
@mateogalandesoto I know the Bible and read it. One thing I have learned is that most of the people that claim salvation will never see God and do not have eternal life.
nodoubt257 1 year ago
@nodoubt257 Indeed God does not exist, and eternal life is not what people think. Most will not have it, and you have to sign a contract, Just as even the Jehovas Witnesses believe basing their info on the early Greek word for faith, which precisely carried the connotation of "a promise of something to come" as if with a contract. Does anyone realize that we are quite literally LIVING the Bible?
mateogalandesoto 1 year ago
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Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites(arsenokoitai) will inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 6:9 NKJV).
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 forbid a man lying with another man as one would with a woman.
gr8deals2do 1 year ago
Very important what you are dong.
Gaygreetings from Holebis
May Jesus Christ bless all members of this church, ♥♂♂,♀♀♥
Holebis 2 years ago
@ Holebis,
Yes, it is Satan. it is NOT Jesus !
May Satan bless all members of this church. ( not Jesus ! )
Please read your bible, Roman 1:26.
Go ask your pastor and read on Roman 1:26. he will glad to help you..
UNKNOWNDEAF 2 years ago
Look at first video of my favourites bout the gay loverelation of David and Jonathan, book of Samuel.
And do know that Jesus came to bring a SPIRITUAL message, He said that we have to look to the things as they are "in spirit and truth". Gay people that love each other and come out for it don't LIE, they speak the truth.that they love another guy, as it would be their wife. And that's now "spirit an truth". We don't have to look at the bodies but at the INNER SOULS. who love each other.
Holebis 2 years ago
Holebis,
are you telling me that Jesus allow a male have sex with other a male ? are you telling me that Jesus approved gay can have sex gay and they can go to the heaven ?
UNKNOWNDEAF 2 years ago
I'm a Christian Universalist. I don't' believe that a LOVING FATHER would punish one of His children FOREVER. The word forever is in fact a wrong translation of greek "aionios", what can mean "a long time", not eternal.
Gays are PEOPLE like other people, they are CREATED BY THE LORD :
Homophilia/homophile comes from Greek homos = equa end philein = to love. Jesus said to love one another, so Jesus can never condemn real love between people.Love is eternal ! (See Corinthians).
Holebis 2 years ago
God is Just and Holy. Everything He does is Just, Righteous and Holy. NO ONE will be in His presence that is unclean and in a state of sin. That would include all people living in a gay relationship. If you think God would not or could not punish sin then I think it 's about time you open up a Bible and start reading it and praying for God to open your eyes to the Truth because God is going to judge this world and He will punish sin. If you truly are a Christian you can handle these words
nodoubt257 1 year ago
In the bible it is written that we have all (including you) sinned. BUT
Please look at the first video of my favourites.
It comes out of the bible.
BTW : Do you know who wrote the bible and who put the 66 books and chose them in Nicea 4th century, to make "the bible". May Jesus Christ our common Heavenly Father bless you with His Divine Love and Grace
Holebis ♥♂♂,♀♀♥
Holebis 1 year ago
I didn't say or write that.Certain is that they will come in heaven, like all people once will (maybe after a long time). About ANY KIND OF SEX : If it's not done out of love it's sinfull. But the WORD "SIN" has another meaning if you know that Jesus will forgive you. We have to do our best. But 1 thing is sure : Jesus doesn't HATE ANYONE.HE IS PURE LOVE. According to a recent prophet (I can tell you more about him if you want), we will evolve in the Afterlife to the angels we once were ! ♥
Holebis 2 years ago
I say that Jesus preached Male-Male sex, that he himself practiced it, that Heaven is the Milky Way, that hell is a celestial destruction of Earth (Read Earth Under Fire) come from the Milky Way, that Eden is the New Earth, a New Chance to do right. And only few will survive, and they shall decide whether or not to follow the Law, and the Law is Love and Love IS the Law.
mateogalandesoto 1 year ago
God loves gays :D
chaotic5chick 2 years ago
Of course He does :)
He loves the sinner, but hates sin - all sin, including sodomy.
MisterLXPsTube 2 years ago
"Homosexuality has always been an abomination in the Bible."
Ah, but the Bible lists so many abominations, muscle.
Arrogance, hypocrisy, greed, gossip, judging,
over eating, allowing enemy children to survive,
shellfish, and the prayers of those who don't get it.
The real question is,
how do we choose to treat one another?
If you really think Jesus was a great example,
do what he did and shut up about gays
and treat others as you wish to be treated.
shas1814 2 years ago
Love is not a smoke screen....I have never felt that any words or arguments are intellectually disingenuous. If anyone stretches the truth it is the Christian right that twist and uses to their benefit what they wish to have the "text" interpreted, I am so tired of the holier than thou attitude, I had to deal with it when I was a child of God growing up and have just been able to make my way back into the fray after being alienated by these people. I am Christian and gay and get used to it!!
01rdturner 2 years ago
Quite right, rdturner.
I spent my childhood on a pew
and my career in a pulpit
and I left because I could no longer support the organized
perpetuation of bronze-age ethics
in clear contradiction of the teaching of Jesus.
The world is changing, people.
You claim to believe in a god who is creative,
and who has promised to establish his kingdom on earth.
And you thought everything was gonna stay the same?
shas1814 2 years ago
Wow... there are a couple things I would like to say. Matthew 19: 10-12, eunuchs were not homosexual, they were people w/ decreased (or no) sexual drive.II Samuel 1:26, Jonathan was David's son. Please read the whole chapter.Ruth chapters 1-3. Ruth was married, her husband died, Naomi looked at her as a daughter and sought to get her married (and did) get her remarried.
str8boutit23 2 years ago
Correction. Jonathan was David's brother
str8boutit23 2 years ago
"Correction. Jonathan was David's brother"
What nonsense.
David was the son of Jesse.
Jonathan was the son of Saul.
My plea in this is, read and seek for yourselves and PLEASE DON"T TAKE THE BIBLE OUT OF CONTEXT. Let the scripture itself be its own explanation.
The truth must be told,
and the church-goers are not telling it!
shas1814 2 years ago
I agree on the "church-goers" argument..
But I'd also like to add apostates.
..who *quoting myself* miraculously (in these last days, where the Lord Jesus and His Apostles warned of being full of great deception & false teachers/-ings) find out "truths" that were hidden to the church for over 1900 years.
"There is nothing new in theology - except for the false." Spurgeon
MisterLXPsTube 2 years ago
"...find out "truths" that were hidden to the church for over 1900 years"
Think about this for a moment-
you claim to believe in a creative, wise, omnipotent god
who has promised to destroy the works of the devil
and establish his kingdom on earth.
And you think things are not going to change??
Oh, brother!
shas1814 2 years ago
The Lord Jesus will NOT establish His kingdom through the church, that is false JWs- or charismatic-/pentecostal-like "kingdom now" theology.
Deception and apostasy will grow and arise and the Lord Jesus will rapture His church. Later he will return visibly to everyone for judgment and then establish His kingdom here on earth.
Although they will see Him and His reign then, they still will sin (as man is wicked all through his heart), but in that time, sin will be judged immediately.
MisterLXPsTube 2 years ago
"the Lord Jesus will rapture His church. Later he will return visibly to everyone for judgment and then establish His kingdom here on earth."
Jesus said otherwise.
"Truly I say to you,
there are some of those who are standing here
who will not taste death
until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."
Matthew 16:28
Gee, those people must be, what,
two thousand years old now?
shas1814 2 years ago
There are two kingdoms (or different aspects of it):
1) the "invisible" one: the Lord Jesus dwelling within the believer (since pentecost) = the church = the one that passage refers to
2) the visible one, when He returns to this earth to reign in Jerusalem
Anyway, I see no point to further discuss Holy/Godly issues with an unbeliever.. Or even worse, someone who -seemingly- once knew (of) THE truth and the gospel an traded it for humanistic, man-made ideas :-(
(-> Heb 6: 4-6) Repent!
MisterLXPsTube 2 years ago
shas1814 2 years ago
as I learn.
str8boutit23 2 years ago
John 8:
10b Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: GO, AND SIN NO MORE.
MisterLXPsTube 2 years ago
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shas1814 2 years ago
Your point (1Cor 5) confirms what I meant, as this video is about people who want to bring sodomy INTO the church.
God's Word teaches that saved people can sin - but if someone chooses to integrate sin into their life (even claiming it be no sin) than he has to be dealt with (1Cor 5).
I always wonder how people miraculously (in these last, apostate days) find out truths that were hidden to the church for over 1900 years.
"There is nothing new in theology - except for the false." Spurgeon
MisterLXPsTube 2 years ago
The fact that this is what ppl are teaching saddens me. Its a clear sign that the truth must be told. Let God be true and every man a liar.
str8boutit23 2 years ago
"God's Word teaches that saved people can sin"
The Bible (which in no place claims to be "the Word of God")
says that those born of God CAN NOT SIN.
How's that working out for you?
shas1814 2 years ago
Of course they / I can - read the rest of 1.John ;)
The Bible also teaches that those that leave God's truth and turn to sin will not see things clearly anymore; they will be deceived (It even speaks of a spirit of deception that they receive) - God "gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another." (From Romans 1)
Romans 1:22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.
MisterLXPsTube 2 years ago
shas1814 2 years ago
Lots of false teachings come from quoting God's Word out of context - so is the false teaching that a saved/born-again person cannot sin.
Reading the same book, 1.John:
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.
MisterLXPsTube 2 years ago
"false teaching that a saved/born-again person cannot sin."
Exactly.
Here we have two scripture passages
saying precisely opposite things.
So you pick the one that tickles your dogma
and call the other one "false teaching."
Actually, it's simply an example of Shas' Law:
for every statement in the Bible
there is an equal and opposite statement.
shas1814 2 years ago
Only for people that don't know the context and do not have the Holy Spirit living within them.
MisterLXPsTube 2 years ago
"Only for people that don't know the context and do not have the Holy Spirit living within them."
Actually, no.
Some scriptures say that believers sin.
Some say they cannot sin.
The account of creation in Genesis chapter 1
contradicts the account in chapter 2.
The rule holds-
the scriptures say just about EVERY thing,
so you can use it to support ANY thing.
shas1814 2 years ago
The shortened condensed version:.....My plea in this is, read and seek for yourselves and PLEASE DON"T TAKE THE BIBLE OUT OF CONTEXT. Let the scripture itself be its own explanation. READ the word of the lord, please READ ALL OF THE WORD. I've been in the position where I wanted to overlook parts of it because its applied to me and when I've accepted those parts that do apply to me, I'm always corrected and restored. I Really hope you guys listen. Our souls are at stake.
str8boutit23 2 years ago
ass pounding is ok. Jesus approves.
MrPeGames 2 years ago
Eh? I thought the very first story in the bible was Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve?
h3ll0b0b 2 years ago
Didn't you get the memo? They've found other books that the church originally thought it had burned.
angelmrpaul 2 years ago
The answer is obviously "No, He would not discriminate against homosexuals." Jesus of Nazareth was not an idiot; however MOST of the people who claim to follow His teachings are ignorant of said teachings, yet at the.same time they are aggressively opinionated about these very same teachings. Exhibit A: This video. It is a strange phenomenon that most persons that are considered to be religiously "Christian" know very little about Jesus. For starters I suggest Gibran's "Jesus the Son of Man"
harbach 2 years ago
Continued research of Homosexuality has found not a cure to an illness, but the fact that Homosexuality is a prenatal development, a natural occurrence that takes place in the womb, long before birth and is irrevocable after birth.
Rockmangames 3 years ago
@mccainteam,
You are incorrect. You do not know everything as much as we do not know everything. Please do not think you are right about homosexuality. The homosexualities is very mystery and hard for us to understand the history. One thing you need to read:
This cruel theory blames the parents and guardians of the child and, now with modern science developments, conflicts with these past findings.
Rockmangames 3 years ago
Jesus did discriminate, of course.
But only against religious teachers
who laid burdens on others
that they themselves would not even try to carry.
shas1814 3 years ago 5
Exactly. I am glad to see that there is someone who has taken the time to learn the philosophy of the man called Jesus of Nazareth. The Hypocrite, as you explained, is the only type of person that He discriminated against. Why do most "Christian" people not know this fact? Why do most "Christian" people know little-to-nothing about Jesus? It is a curious phenomenon.
harbach 2 years ago
"Why do most "Christian" people know little-to-nothing about Jesus? "
I have found that very few xians know what the Bible says at all.
They are familiar with the predigested bits
spooned out from the pulpit every week,
but they have very little direct knowledge of their own.
Which is only to be expected;
if they knew what their bibles said
the church would be a VERY different thing!
And if they knew about Jesus, even,
their lives would be hugely different.
shas1814 2 years ago 5
AMEN!!!
01rdturner 2 years ago
Thank you.
melindabear1 3 years ago
This is fuckin stupid..u r dumbasses maybe if u told people to read the whole chapter and not jus certain verses they would see that what ur saying is taking one thing and making it out to be sumtin completely different,thtz stupid...u are the same way as all the other groups who try to justify what they are doing by taking a part of the bible and pretending that one sentence means something that it doesnt,it clearly says everything if you read the whole thing and not jus those certain parts.
manic136 3 years ago
Then read it!!!
mccainteam 3 years ago
Hello... homosexuality is a sin.
Jesus would say sin no more.
Follow me and pick up your cross NOT your homo agenda!
mccainteam 3 years ago
"Jesus would say sin no more."
Jesus would say
"Neither do I condemn you."
shas1814 3 years ago
Jesus would say
"Neither do I condemn you."
What bible are you reading? Condemnation is there... pick one up and read it...
mccainteam 3 years ago
shas1814 3 years ago 2
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
She was not to carry on in her sin. Homosexuality is a sin.
Stop watering down what is right and wrong for your self interest.
mccainteam 3 years ago
mccainteam
"She was not to carry on in her sin."
Correct.
But it does NOT say
"IF you stop sinning I will not condemn you."
Can you see the difference, sir?
If not, we're just spinning our wheels.
shas1814 3 years ago
"Stop watering down what is right and wrong for your self interest."
There's no self-interest involved.
Other than my desire to live in a free and fair society
and to be a free and fair human being.
I've been married over 35 years.
I just want others to be free to do the same.
All others.
shas1814 3 years ago
That is why we will continue to teach in our churches that Homosexuality is wrong.
That marriage is between a women and a man.
That society will be judged for their lack of morale.
But who cares, right?
We don't want to be judged for our stance. So stop judging those that disagree.
Do not judge me and my house as we serve the Lord and stand up for what we BELIEVE in with most Americans!!! Let's VOTE. O we already did!!!!!!
mccainteam 3 years ago
"That is why we..."
Um, what exactly is "that"?
Listen, McCain, you're using obsolete laws here.
Jesus replaced the old covenant with the new covenant.
The Jewish law is done, finished, kaput.
Unless you're an orthodox Jew.
Which is the ONLY people that law ever did apply to.
"Let's VOTE. O we already did!!!!!!"
Yes, we elected Obama.
Time to change your name, isn't it?
shas1814 3 years ago
So we have no laws right?
Jesus did not do away with the law. Read your bible. He came to fulfill the law. He died so we would not have to. He did not say live your life anyway you want.
Justify it all you want. We all know that it is not just immoral, but unnatural. Some things just don't go in certain holes.
mccainteam 3 years ago
jewish law is done?
what world are you living in?
there are millions upon millions of jews in this country, and throughout the world. Most of which are NOT orthodox.
jesus was a jew-a rebel jew, yes, but none the less he was born and died a jew. remember that.
thoughtbeforebelief 3 years ago
Relax, thoughtbeforebelief.
I was speaking to mccainteam,
who speaks from the Christian position.
Of course Mosaic law still applies to Orthodox Jews.
But that is not relevant to a conversation
between a "Christian" and an atheist.
shas1814 3 years ago
So I guess we should kill and steal and have sex with underage children? Should be marry our sisters too.
Your justification for sin leads to NO condemnation. That is not Biblical. Living in any sin is not Holy.
mccainteam 3 years ago
shas1814 3 years ago
Thank you...
You have made my point.
You and your type don't care what people do.
You try and use biblical context, twist it, to justify your life style.
Good luck... Your not worth my time.
Your twisted mind is made up. Have a nice time trying to convince Americans gay marriage is okay. We will work extremely hard in our groups and churches to defend out stance!
mccainteam 3 years ago
'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have
done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will
be on their own heads.' (Leviticus 20:13)
mccainteam 3 years ago
Jesus Christ did discriminate and will discriminate again. He discriminates between sinners and saints, those who reject his grace and those who accept it.
God is pure love, yet God is simultaneously purely righteous and just in nature. Thereby God must judge mankind for their transgressions, for there is no justice in pardoning. Yet God offered Himself on the cross to pay the penalty of those who accept his sacrifice for them as valid.
There's judgement, everything else is unscriptural.
Mishpat91 3 years ago
"God is pure love."
That's why he plans to torture most of his "children"
for ever and ever with no chance of escape.
Funny thing, though-
when humans treat their kids like that
we put them in prison.
Even if the children don't "love and obey" them.
Isn't that silly?
shas1814 3 years ago 2
more ppl need to accept differences im glad to see not everyone is hiding in fear of others opinions. ya the bible said one man one woman but if he loves us all equally who are we to judge what is right and wrong we arent God. im not gay but i have a great friend who is gay and i dont love him any less than the rest of my friends. u make me proud to be a christian! thank u
pinky2389 3 years ago
There's clearly a punishment for those who aren't following Christ and renewed by His spirit. There was no prophet who warned more extensively about Sheol and Judgement than Jesus.
''And these will depart into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
''And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.''
Don't dismiss the Word of God. There will be no manifestation of the Holy Spirit in such a congregation and no healing for the body.
Mishpat91 3 years ago
my name is nick , I'm getting discriminatedin other words I'm getting judged
1, I ride the city bus ,at 9:45am(bus 3) their is a passger(also my neighbor ) she best friends with the bus driver donna, she is telling her to kick me off,because of my race an disability
2.my neighbor(the passger on the bus)is judging me and my friend vern she thinks we are gay because we hang out, but we are not gay,
what can I do please help me
hero22zippy 3 years ago
Very powerful!
naplesfrank 3 years ago
Keep fighting the good fight!
jjbootsj 3 years ago
You rock! This is awesome!
jjbootsj 3 years ago
This is awesome! You rock!
romancito 3 years ago