Yup, we'll be doing this, right after WW3, after everyone is dead, after everyone left is chipped. Then....more modern art for your modern home. Get a painting of the color yellow and have your robot hang it on the wall.
@ronmorris88 Cult an interesting word, "a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies. " I guess if community outreach can be considered rites and ceremonies, and religion hmm if you call a collection of ideas a religion, and by worship if you mean we actively think about the idea. But that would make most jobs, most political parties, most clubs a cult. Hmm Well I guess but then your stretching language to a useless degree.
first get unsuspecting people to agree to being comparmentalized,and then build the perfect prison system that can be implemented to all persons regardless,moved and marginalized by an unseen power that fresco dosnt mention.he did leave a lot of details out including my power to reason.nice try jacques.he tries to corralate nice country atmosphere with a prison institution in the picture....a true fasist guru, caught by me, right out in the open..
Islam, Christianism, Judaism ... understand they are all the same, believes created to divide us and conquer us, do you think ANYONE cares about you ,your future or your family ? On heaven OR earth? Time to wake up and see the true enemy,the monetary system and the people controling it using you as a slave with money that doesn't exist, to exploit and control
Try watching this, leave superstition (religion) and start to be a real human being: Zeitgeist - The Venus project
@wonggongs do you use a washing machine, hoover we know you use a pc technology frees us and makes life easy the venus project is simply saying we no longer need to work in mundain jobs so we can spend our time doing things we enjoy or improving things for each other. The concept is this rather than put a price tag on a item you simply automate it so everyone has the item for free so rather it being the have and have nots we all have. This backwards system we are in now fails on all levels
@MultiShampain i actually agree with his vision. I was trying to state that if we were smart, all of our current money right now would go to scienctific advancements along with building automated robots that create our housing/ do our jobs. Then in the future we can live doing what we want.
@EasternMerchant Freedom is defined as ones ability to make choices; the more freedom one has, the more choices they may choose. It is only related to survival insofar as that one chooses to survive. Not worrying about ones survival means that choice has been removed. It's one of the most basic principals of slavery; lack of choice. If someone guarantees your survival, they remove your ability to survive on your own. You become dependent on them. Trade freedom for safety and you'll loose both.
@Spazzboy911 but surely you must admit that life can be more fun if we make choices based on what we WANT to do for FUN rather than what we must do to survive! :P
@EasternMerchant Sure I can choose to have fun, but not at the cost of security or freedom. It's called practicing responsibility for the consequences of ones actions. My survival is based on my actions defined by my freedom. 'Fun', on the other hand, is a very loose term. I, for one, have fun living, ie; survival. I don't sacrifice my freedom or survival just for fun. And don't stick your tongue out at me, it's rude. We're in public comment, grow up. And don't call me Shirley.
@Spazzboy911 hehe np I'll refrain from the horseplay. Ofcourse, you should loosen up a little. Life is too short! As you say, Freedom is defined by our ability to make choices, this I agree,but Choices of what job we must take surely is not as exciting as choices of how we want to design our new home, or spend our FREE time. In some ways the Venus Project allows for more choices! Just think for once.... what have you always dreamed of doing but couldn't because of lack of money?
three questions, say we build these new cities, what will happen to the other cities? we blow them up and build new ones over them? and where would we build these cities?
I love how they completely skipped one of the biggest features of his vision and thats a resource-based economy. That means no more money. Food, shelter, etc, will be giving to everyone for free. There is no work either. If you watch some of his interviews he says he wants people to focus on doing whatever it is they want with their lives. Going to school, learning, creating. Not serving the government.
@S1T1K2012 Naw it's more technocratic than socialist, of course some may prefer to work for other people their entire life as a disposable commodity making other people rich.
No one would be chipped. You must be afraid of change from the current system. We have all already been brainwashed to think that how we live today is best. The Venus project promotes cooperation rather than competition. Competition promotes waste, fear, war, economic slavery. With the Venus project we won't be tied down to redundant worthless jobs and will be free to think and improve. everyone will be able to have access to basic needs in life and more. The way we are raised is re
@baihbalm If the establishment of this project proved successful, would you not do anything to could to be a part of it? If there were any bad apples, they would merely have to accept a new social way of life to take part. Otherwise they could simply go off on their own and do their own thing.
@SlyRoach It won't be successful without a screening process. It's nice to say any and all are accepted, but it won't work that way. You can go ahead and try.
@baihbalm Why wouldn't it be possible? I often get told these things but never with any definitive idea of why not. I can tell you why I think it would work, because some people aspire to live in a world that doesn't have poverty and suffering. A world that everyone could live at a higher standard to the richest people of today. All of which and more is possible, and all it requires is knowledge and understanding of the ways current systems fail and how this new system will succeed.
@baihbalm I'm sure when money was first thought of, there were cavemen who probably said the same thing you said. "What if Ogg no have money. What Ogg eat? Where Ogg live? What if Zog have more than Ogg, but Zog no work as much? Me like barter system. Barter system give Ogg nice club to hit brontosaurus. Barter help Ogg make fire with nice rock" lol. I know money came way after the stone age, this was just funny, at least in my head lol
In a Resource Based Economy the new currency would be knowledge. We would spend our time and energy acquiring knowledge rather than money and cars and cheap plastic toys. Our social status would be based on what we know rather than what we own. Unfortunately we were all born about 100 years too early to see this utopian society. bummer :(
Your ALL brain washed who likes this idea. Yes the building designs are great and all but the fundamentals is EVIL! Its Basically WORLD COMMUNISM! Every one monitored, controlled and in part of the Network. Its NEW WORLD ORDER Slavery! With the population chipped and monitored, This reminds me, Terminator Movie and 666 In bible. When you are chipped and monitored its much easier for corrupt person to take control of you and eliminate you from the system if you resist. Fuck Venus Project!
@scott22v Well, since the Venus Project supporters hate "boring" jobs, they will ask the tooth fairy to build them those machines and to materialize resources out of thin air.
@juicyappleish This project might be one of the possible sollutions for the failing monetairy system. If you don't agree, it's maybe more constructive to come up with a solution of your own
@juicyappleish My brother was already taking apart and putting together again all his toys before he could walk and he loves to be a mechanic, My brother also loves to hear music while he is working on those machines. I love to make music. Would be nice if we all have what we need and can do the things we love. I'm doing already just that but unfortunely not everyone.
yes.. ufortunately most people don't do what they like to do and what makes them happy..
why? because they need money for themself for food, shelter and electricity..
crappy faulty world system we live in.. most people are not happy and the world is still at war out there.. i wonder why? money perhaps again, the probblem is..
it always comes down to money in this decaying world..
@scott22v Once we understand that the current system is not working, policies that will be taken will correspond to the transition period. During this period, the foundations for building a resource-based economy will be laying.
@TheJoaquinsabina No one is trying to eliminate religion. You should listen more carefully. What Jacque tries to do is call for racional part of each person. You can have the religion you want, if you discriminate someone one upon that belief, that is the thing that Jacque doesn't want to happen. End religion? Do you evern read something about VP? No one will prohibet religion. You just have to keep for yourself your beliefs if those will hurt someone.
People act like the venus project is the only alternative concept ever created in the history of man outside of the current model we're using, when in reality it is just one of many hundreds if not thousands. I think that the zeitgeist films did a good job in showing people that there are other possibilities, but I think the people in control have already planned all of this out for at least the next century. We can still dream though can't we?
I've heard about the technology, the cool architecture, the resource-based economy, it's all so incredibly beautiful, but no one is answering the one important question. How will people run it? He never talks about the political structure. He never talks about democracy. He never talks about freedom. Can anyone help me out here? Is this some kind of democratic utopia, or a technocratic oligarchy?
@Etsihcrana u dont listen very well rbe = no goverment they do not contribute to the good of man only to the evil its that simple when is the last time u saw a goverment do something that the people want? and whens the last time u saw a goverment do the people dont want? the first answers 0 and the second answer is 10,000,000,000
p.s stop the flouridated water reverse osmosis filtering! there are other ways to filter it out of your water its just one im nameing for you to lean on
@Etsihcrana He doesn't talk about political structure because there won't be one. the only people "running" anything will be science teams, made up of smart, motivated individuals, whose sole purpose is to solve our problems such as food production and construction. no one is controlled (which is the purpose of a political system).
@Etsihcrana Politicians'll not exist because the problems'll be solved by applying the scientific method. About freedom, everyone will be free to do whatever they want (except if that thing hurts somebody). When you remove the problems associated with money, shortage of food, clothes, shelter and so on, people'll not be so violent. People will be free, because they'll understand that we all are a family and racism, homophobia, classe segregation'll not do anything good to the human family.
To the one that commented about income. You said income average has gone up, and I laugh because also prices has gone up standard of living is crap. Only the real rich can have a higher standard of living. Stop worrying just about you and worry a bit about all those kids dying of hunger while CEOs spend thousands on just one meal.
@juicyappleish What an ignorant comment from a person who thinks that anything other than the rusty shit box system currently employed is a pejorative comment meaning: 'a totalitarian police state.' No, my ill informed friend... Capitalism and any other inSANE systems that utilize money and markets require social stratification. The rich elite rule and we are their boot licking wage slaves. Capitalism is sugar coated fuedalism, Technocratic Anarchal Communism is heaven on earth by comparison.
@elbowbiter1 How can money bring problems? Money is just a tool to make exchange more convenient. Exchange still happens in Venus Project. Are you saying that if people don't trade/exchange, or if they exchange without money (barter) people would be better off?
And why is that the average salary in the USA today is today much higher than 100 years ago????
Today the average houshold income is $50,233.00
Compare that a hundred years ago, the rate has gone up and improved standard of living.
@juicyappleish I don't think you know much about the venus project yet. Not to worry I will help you with some of it. No: there is no reason to trade in the system. No: there is no need to use money as an intermediary in this system. No: the increased numbers does not mean increased wealth... purchasing power is decreasing a long with the value of money. A hundred years ago people could purchase things with pennies that now cost bills. Peace, my friend.
@juicyappleish Ooo, the douchery at the end there, classic argument of the defeated. No one cares about what inflation is caused by in a moneyless system. No one cares if you trade in a resource based society... it would be a massive waste of time as there is no reason to hoard personal wealth and everything you need will be supplied to you on simple request. No one said that inflation causes purchasing power to erode. Strawman much? Before you trash a thing... learn about it.
@juicyappleish Yeah, you should read that sentence again with the blinders off. In no way does:
"Purchasing power is decreasing along with the value of money" =
"Purchasing power is decreasing BECAUSE OF the loss of the value of money."
So yeah, it is a straw man and demonstrably so. What you have utterly failed to do is address my original post with anything resembling a thought out argument. Looks like we all need more logic hey.
@juicyappleish Why? I don't even want there to be a debate about the subject. I am advocating a system that won't have purchasing power as an attribute.
@juicyappleish Oh I can answer... but why bother... I think it is about as relevant as bickering over how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. As to your question, who will decide how much access to resources people will have. It is clearly stated in their literature... and it won't be a who it will be a what. Seriously you can answer a lot of your questions by doing some honest research. You'll find all of your objections are well addressed and highly irrelevant. Ferrari's?!?! Seriously?
@juicyappleish hypothetically you don't need some big government to oversee a true democratic voting process. it is simple technology to use the internet to collect votes via polls. once the program is set -up all people have to do is cast their vote and the system tallies it up. the results can be streamed live as the process proceeds. setting up the program will need some checks and balances, but any fraud would be easy to detect, and fraud itself will not benefit anyone.
@juicyappleish and it is nowhere near similar to communism. leaders in communist countries are not voted it. not to mention they rely on human labor for agriculture and manufacturing which are the 2 fields we have been able to automate the most. obviously the system will not be making Ferrari's for everyone. those cars are a pure sign of social status that would be eliminated in a RBE. no one will have individual wealth to flaunt.
@ejpetersondub You don't get it do you? They say everyone will be rich here. There will be superabundance of goods because machines will do the work. That's the reason I asked about the ferrraris.
Adding hi-tech machines to communism will not change the fact that it's communism.
@juicyappleish u cant be "rich" if there is no money. a high standard of living does not need to imply great wealth. u seem to be missing the most basic point of TVP. THERE IS NO MONEY!! not everyone can be rich because there will be no money. if you had the slightest clue about communism you would know that it too relies on money to function. this is the most basic concept that seems to have flown right over your head. please, think just a little bit before you write comments.
@ejpetersondub if you had the slightest clue about communism you would know that it too relies on money to function. this is the most basic concept that seems to have flown right over your head. please, think just a little bit before you write comments
@THExHOUND what the fuck are you talking about? i write that communism needs money right in my comment and u have the retardation to claim that i didnt know that? go back into your brain cave, troll!!!
im just pointing out the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about. and dont say troll, makes you look like a hipster fag. nvm, your profile picture does that.
Cant blame most layman for criticizing TVP, especially when they have been living under a monetary economic system SINCE BIRTH and have been for thousands of years. Humans are genetically stubborn traditionalist, it is VERY HARD to get them to accept new things when they are perfectly comfy with what they already have, even if it will lead to a slow but eventual collapse, most people will only wake up when the danger is IMMINENT, not 50 years down the road.
@juicyappleish The one who dicides how much recourses everyone gets is you, cause you know what you really need don't you? As Ghandi said: The world has enough for everyone's need but not for everyone's greed.
@juicyappleish Do you need gold? it's not eatable. Do you need a ferrari when you can travel for free (in the future maybe even up till 4000 miles an hour) with maglev-technologie? Besides, when there is no money there's no need for competition so you don't need to show of to the neigbours that you are richer than they are with fancy cars and gold. Greed and corruption are byproducs of the monetairy system. Communism is a system that also runs on money.
@TheMidwestsk8ter Money is just a means to exchange goods conveniently. In Venus Project, people can still exchange goods. How can money cause poverty then?
Venus Project is only socialism coupled with hi-tech machines.
@juicyappleish Do you even know what socialism is? Or do only have an idea of what it is b/c of what people show you on TV? Socialism fails because people are forced to work a job to supply the whole. Some have to work terrible jobs with long days while others don't. In the Venus project, you will not be forced to do anything. This system works because if you're not getting something that you want, you have the choice to live without it, or help fix it.
If this abomination ever happened, who do you think would regulate medicine? what we eat? breath? It definitely won't be us (the people) since by then us & our children will all be unskilled, smoking pot all day [or so the supporters think]. Big brother will be regulating everything; put more fluoride & psychotic chemicals in the water, add more chemtrails, because big brother knows it's "best" for us. We will even lose the skills to test for these poisons.
@MysticalNinja64 Do you drink coca cola or other refrigerant? How do you thing the cans are made? By humans? Do you enjoy watching youtube videos? Where did your computer come from? Was it created by GOD? You made so negative points that I will not answer all of them.
Don't fall for it people. Think about what would happen to your rights. Remember who's currently in charge (illuminati), and how ripe for abuse/enslavement this system would be.
FOX supporting it so glowingly should be evidence enough. Why do you think republican FOX would even think of supporting this communist idea (GOP/ FOX are for small govt control)? Because the only goal of those controlling the media is eventual Total Enslavement.
@MysticalNinja64 First, you have no fact that this is related with "New World Order". Second, 'Your right's?' What are your rights, right now? We don't participate in the destiny of your country (don't say you vote, please), you don't have access to the things you want, only part of them... Third, Communist ideia? Are you kidding me? Comunism used money, in a Resouce Based Economy will not exist money. You'll have acess to the things you need.
The Zeitgeist Docu is good until the Venus Project come,Is a contradiction.On the other hand .NO ,we need to rebuilt ,what take the earth to built billions of years we are destroying it in two centuries.thousands of species has dissipated and keep counting .Even Tasmania and Madagascar are been deforested,it is very sad ,here in US every lake or river is contaminated...
As we progress, more and more technologies and ideals become obsolete.
of course people who have interests in those ideals will hold on to them, and do everything in their power to stop technological progress, so their interests won't cast back by technological progress. now though it is the economy system's turn.
But, there may be few with interests in that system, but they have the ability to keep it and stop technological progress. if you look into it, the zeitgeist ideas date back to the 70s
The Venus project is a blueprint for scientific dictatorship, it would only take a few minutes to look it up. These guys are fascist control-freaks. Look up "resource based society" and ask your self what place does freedom have in all of this
@AtheistRightWing I guess it depends on how you define "freedom"? If it means to explore and learn new things to improve life for everyone on the planet or stay at home and take care of the family without having to be a wage-slave then I guess freedom is a given. However if your definition is more about your choice to screw up the world more by polluting it while making money for your own personal gain through selling shit to people that they don't need, then I guess it's bad.
Fox promoting zeitgeist? Designers of a future scientific dictatorship??? The man who profoundly hates the USA and it's Costitution and principles of Liberty? Well, fuck fox
This guy obviously hasn't had to deal with an automated box maker which is one of the more simple automated feats and how they constantly break down. Also, how do you automate the mining/farming/etc for raw materials? How do you know how much you need? That's a problem the Soviet Union happened. They had tons of concrete, but no food.
After getting some unintendedly amusing hatemail in response to my previous question, I decided to give the guy another shot by watching Future By Design, a "documentary" about his ideas and person.
In conclusion, I retract my statement on him being unintelligent. He clearly is both intelligent and creative. But the remarkably retarded company he keeps throughout the movie diminishes his purpose and appeal by a great deal. He's preaching high concepts to low people.
Jac doesnt have much time on Earth anymore. He's one guy that's got a vision no one can replicate. Better squeeze as much information out of him in a humanly way before he's gone. Jacq's a high school drop that was too smart for school.
Love how this guy's wiki article basically proclaims he's the smartest guy on the planet. And then you see this. Some shabby playhouses on a cheap property in the middle of nowhere. "How will we build this society?"
@Partyffs What you're accusing me of doing is exactly what this movement is doing. And you. Talking about how far technology has come, without showing how specific technical problems with the different ideas and designs should be solved; this stuff is NOT known - it is presumed.
I'll start taking this seriously when the different contraptions get a technical blueprint down to every single part and detail, and enough other scientists of reputation jump on the bandwagon.
the only thing they failed to mention is the most important part... getting rid of the monetary system and replacing it with a resource based economy.
First, we need to start by building automated solar dish and battery factories... Just 1% of Earth's land space is all that's needed to power 10,000,000,000 people at even a better standard!
Jacque fresco is a ChampioNnnnnnnn! What an awesome awesome place this world would be under these amazing designs!!!! This would ultimately be a dream well worth living in! Thanks for posting amigo:)
Zeitgeist addendum! for everyone who wants answers to why we keep getting the same problems, economics, war etc. It explains that the way society is ran nowadays is old-fashion. Because with present day technology we dont need to have scarsity on water, food housing etc. and al of this comes from money.
@The420Gunslinger It is not about ruling.WE rule the machines. It is about automation, wich has expanded since the industrial revolution. Do you still think it is abad thing the "elevator guy" is gone? Or that you now can buy food from a machine and not in a store?Is that a part of your vision of those fucking machines ruling us?
chaval informate mejor, el proyecto venus lleva más de 30 años en marcha, deja tu mente paranoica a un lado y presta atención a las soluciones que ofrece.
Don't take this wrong way, but this man is very old and when he passes I hope that people younger carry his words. This man is the most underrated genius in american history(if this landmass is even america anymore), but yet we don't embrace his mind. Why? The fact that this man has no credentials and came up with a practical world that turned into actual scientific design is only more astonishing. It's ironic that he's living to see the peak of bullshit in this world. It's a sign people. Change
@A1r3adyT4ken tell me, what would you do about all the people that will hack your computers, and what about the millions of crazy people going around murdering and raping people. after all, you said that we should be nice to everyone. well, being nice would mean putting down our guns. you know what happens to people after they put their guns down?
@conservthestate The most over looked fact of The Venus Project and also The Zeitgeist Movement (as they are very related) is that people tend to see the physical structure (the computers, buildings, circular city, the automation) as the sole solution. I'll admit, quite often the material even portrays it that way. But that's not the case, you can't simply dump the people of today into a city of tomorrow and expect there to be harmony on any level. Humanity has to got to grow into it.
@conservthestate I'll expand more if you like, it's hard to type it all out in 500 chars or less.
But coming from your current understanding of it all, you are quite right to have those concerns. They are very valid points which showcases how poorly the information is coming across.
Yup, we'll be doing this, right after WW3, after everyone is dead, after everyone left is chipped. Then....more modern art for your modern home. Get a painting of the color yellow and have your robot hang it on the wall.
101101101777 4 days ago
THIS IS A CULT
ronmorris88 5 days ago
@ronmorris88 please define a cult becuase by Webster it is not.
starknight97 4 days ago
@ronmorris88 Cult an interesting word, "a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies. " I guess if community outreach can be considered rites and ceremonies, and religion hmm if you call a collection of ideas a religion, and by worship if you mean we actively think about the idea. But that would make most jobs, most political parties, most clubs a cult. Hmm Well I guess but then your stretching language to a useless degree.
MrVictorPhoenix 2 days ago
THIS IS A CULT. U PPL R FUCKING STUPID. GO GET A REAL FUCKING JOB
ronmorris88 5 days ago
@ronmorris88 I guess that all depends on what you define as a cult. Care to share your definition?
enticed2zeitgeist 5 days ago
@ronmorris88 please stop lieing
starknight97 4 days ago
wow he dropped out of school at the age of 14? sure as hell shows a lot about society
SergeantPepper8 1 week ago 2
Fox is capable of good? Woah.
MrStillmans 1 week ago
@MrStillmans Not really. They just show the parts that will get them entertainment points. They don't really have a purpose to do good.
enticed2zeitgeist 5 days ago
NEW VIDEO SITE-> gomusictv.info
USAMoviesUSA 3 weeks ago
first get unsuspecting people to agree to being comparmentalized,and then build the perfect prison system that can be implemented to all persons regardless,moved and marginalized by an unseen power that fresco dosnt mention.he did leave a lot of details out including my power to reason.nice try jacques.he tries to corralate nice country atmosphere with a prison institution in the picture....a true fasist guru, caught by me, right out in the open..
sparkyohms1 3 weeks ago
Once again, Fox news misses the point and proved to everyone how much they suck at journalism
Zeverouis 3 weeks ago 2
bias fucking media won't mention the most important factor the resource based economy
ilovebewbz101 4 weeks ago
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Islam, Christianism, Judaism ... understand they are all the same, believes created to divide us and conquer us, do you think ANYONE cares about you ,your future or your family ? On heaven OR earth? Time to wake up and see the true enemy,the monetary system and the people controling it using you as a slave with money that doesn't exist, to exploit and control
Try watching this, leave superstition (religion) and start to be a real human being: Zeitgeist - The Venus project
xeneize666 1 month ago
Applauds for Fox News.
Pesola 1 month ago
nice ...
AndaHeldiS 1 month ago
65 people likes the slavery
fcukingalien 1 month ago
1:54 Was it only me that thought he said "The Penis project"? XD
rabies79 1 month ago
@CASTLEPIE9
great logic, you 2 month old used tampon
jkjkjkish 1 month ago
use all current labor towards building the machines that will then take our jobs and create everything with no assistance. voila
wonggongs 1 month ago
@wonggongs do you use a washing machine, hoover we know you use a pc technology frees us and makes life easy the venus project is simply saying we no longer need to work in mundain jobs so we can spend our time doing things we enjoy or improving things for each other. The concept is this rather than put a price tag on a item you simply automate it so everyone has the item for free so rather it being the have and have nots we all have. This backwards system we are in now fails on all levels
MultiShampain 1 month ago
@MultiShampain i actually agree with his vision. I was trying to state that if we were smart, all of our current money right now would go to scienctific advancements along with building automated robots that create our housing/ do our jobs. Then in the future we can live doing what we want.
wonggongs 1 month ago
this is interesting :) and yAY! i got a virtual tour in Venus, Florida
wvwification1 1 month ago
i dont know what it is, but the reporter at the end is hot.
THExHOUND 1 month ago
FREEDOM = NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT SURVIVING.
EasternMerchant 2 months ago
@EasternMerchant Freedom is defined as ones ability to make choices; the more freedom one has, the more choices they may choose. It is only related to survival insofar as that one chooses to survive. Not worrying about ones survival means that choice has been removed. It's one of the most basic principals of slavery; lack of choice. If someone guarantees your survival, they remove your ability to survive on your own. You become dependent on them. Trade freedom for safety and you'll loose both.
Spazzboy911 1 month ago
@Spazzboy911 but surely you must admit that life can be more fun if we make choices based on what we WANT to do for FUN rather than what we must do to survive! :P
EasternMerchant 1 month ago
@EasternMerchant Sure I can choose to have fun, but not at the cost of security or freedom. It's called practicing responsibility for the consequences of ones actions. My survival is based on my actions defined by my freedom. 'Fun', on the other hand, is a very loose term. I, for one, have fun living, ie; survival. I don't sacrifice my freedom or survival just for fun. And don't stick your tongue out at me, it's rude. We're in public comment, grow up. And don't call me Shirley.
Spazzboy911 1 month ago
@Spazzboy911 hehe np I'll refrain from the horseplay. Ofcourse, you should loosen up a little. Life is too short! As you say, Freedom is defined by our ability to make choices, this I agree,but Choices of what job we must take surely is not as exciting as choices of how we want to design our new home, or spend our FREE time. In some ways the Venus Project allows for more choices! Just think for once.... what have you always dreamed of doing but couldn't because of lack of money?
EasternMerchant 1 month ago
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three questions, say we build these new cities, what will happen to the other cities? we blow them up and build new ones over them? and where would we build these cities?
juki0h 2 months ago
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juki0h 2 months ago
i donate to this awsome project
micap20078 2 months ago
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@Laughingblades "but show me it getting done." what? lol
how could you ask that of someone when you try nothing to get it done yourself.
TheDebtisslavery 2 months ago
I love how they completely skipped one of the biggest features of his vision and thats a resource-based economy. That means no more money. Food, shelter, etc, will be giving to everyone for free. There is no work either. If you watch some of his interviews he says he wants people to focus on doing whatever it is they want with their lives. Going to school, learning, creating. Not serving the government.
This man is my here
PapMagick 2 months ago 50
@PapMagick *hero
PapMagick 2 months ago
@PapMagick I can imagine it... Everyday, filled with learning and fun.
anythingnew 2 months ago
Big ideas are great and all but show me it getting done.
Laughingblades 2 months ago
Socialism in yet another form
S1T1K2012 3 months ago
@S1T1K2012 Naw it's more technocratic than socialist, of course some may prefer to work for other people their entire life as a disposable commodity making other people rich.
Laughingblades 2 months ago
@S1T1K2012
The minds that created Socialism, Capitalism or any ism had no clue of the technology we have today. Try to think beyond the ism's.
CosmosPrivateer 2 months ago 13
stop underestimating peoples intelligence with stupid graphics chesey music and shit - youare destroying america
sunlightblessing 3 months ago
This response is a little off topic, but does anyone agree that the female anchor is pretty much useless at her job as a speaker?
TheMarshallstacks 3 months ago
@YouTheory
No one would be chipped. You must be afraid of change from the current system. We have all already been brainwashed to think that how we live today is best. The Venus project promotes cooperation rather than competition. Competition promotes waste, fear, war, economic slavery. With the Venus project we won't be tied down to redundant worthless jobs and will be free to think and improve. everyone will be able to have access to basic needs in life and more. The way we are raised is re
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freemanpatriot 3 months ago
It only takes one bad apple... there must be a screening process or it won't work and I dare anyone to disagree with me! LOL.
baihbalm 3 months ago
@baihbalm If the establishment of this project proved successful, would you not do anything to could to be a part of it? If there were any bad apples, they would merely have to accept a new social way of life to take part. Otherwise they could simply go off on their own and do their own thing.
SlyRoach 3 months ago
@SlyRoach It won't be successful without a screening process. It's nice to say any and all are accepted, but it won't work that way. You can go ahead and try.
baihbalm 3 months ago
@baihbalm Why wouldn't it be possible? I often get told these things but never with any definitive idea of why not. I can tell you why I think it would work, because some people aspire to live in a world that doesn't have poverty and suffering. A world that everyone could live at a higher standard to the richest people of today. All of which and more is possible, and all it requires is knowledge and understanding of the ways current systems fail and how this new system will succeed.
SlyRoach 3 months ago
@baihbalm I'm sure when money was first thought of, there were cavemen who probably said the same thing you said. "What if Ogg no have money. What Ogg eat? Where Ogg live? What if Zog have more than Ogg, but Zog no work as much? Me like barter system. Barter system give Ogg nice club to hit brontosaurus. Barter help Ogg make fire with nice rock" lol. I know money came way after the stone age, this was just funny, at least in my head lol
handyandyradio 2 months ago
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In a Resource Based Economy the new currency would be knowledge. We would spend our time and energy acquiring knowledge rather than money and cars and cheap plastic toys. Our social status would be based on what we know rather than what we own. Unfortunately we were all born about 100 years too early to see this utopian society. bummer :(
timmaahhyy1 3 months ago
@manycuppps It's really awesome that you responded to me and then closed your account.
titovalasques 3 months ago
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Your ALL brain washed who likes this idea. Yes the building designs are great and all but the fundamentals is EVIL! Its Basically WORLD COMMUNISM! Every one monitored, controlled and in part of the Network. Its NEW WORLD ORDER Slavery! With the population chipped and monitored, This reminds me, Terminator Movie and 666 In bible. When you are chipped and monitored its much easier for corrupt person to take control of you and eliminate you from the system if you resist. Fuck Venus Project!
YouTheory 3 months ago
But who will build the machines that will build the buildings?
scott22v 3 months ago
@scott22v Well, since the Venus Project supporters hate "boring" jobs, they will ask the tooth fairy to build them those machines and to materialize resources out of thin air.
juicyappleish 3 months ago
@juicyappleish This project might be one of the possible sollutions for the failing monetairy system. If you don't agree, it's maybe more constructive to come up with a solution of your own
Kolderwolf 1 month ago
@juicyappleish My brother was already taking apart and putting together again all his toys before he could walk and he loves to be a mechanic, My brother also loves to hear music while he is working on those machines. I love to make music. Would be nice if we all have what we need and can do the things we love. I'm doing already just that but unfortunely not everyone.
Kolderwolf 1 month ago
@Kolderwolf
yes.. ufortunately most people don't do what they like to do and what makes them happy..
why? because they need money for themself for food, shelter and electricity..
crappy faulty world system we live in.. most people are not happy and the world is still at war out there.. i wonder why? money perhaps again, the probblem is..
it always comes down to money in this decaying world..
A1r3adyT4ken 1 week ago
@scott22v Once we understand that the current system is not working, policies that will be taken will correspond to the transition period. During this period, the foundations for building a resource-based economy will be laying.
fabioESER 3 months ago
That memory wire is the same wire they use in my braces
scott22v 3 months ago
the most satanic movement ever created by a silly ignorant and anti cristian guy...horrible!!!!
TheJoaquinsabina 3 months ago
@TheJoaquinsabina Can you show me some proves that corroborate your theory? Do you know Jacque Fresco personnaly to say something like you said?
fabioESER 3 months ago
@fabioESER yeah i have proves!!! try to eliminated the religions on the world is enough!!!
TheJoaquinsabina 3 months ago
@TheJoaquinsabina No one is trying to eliminate religion. You should listen more carefully. What Jacque tries to do is call for racional part of each person. You can have the religion you want, if you discriminate someone one upon that belief, that is the thing that Jacque doesn't want to happen. End religion? Do you evern read something about VP? No one will prohibet religion. You just have to keep for yourself your beliefs if those will hurt someone.
fabioESER 3 months ago
People act like the venus project is the only alternative concept ever created in the history of man outside of the current model we're using, when in reality it is just one of many hundreds if not thousands. I think that the zeitgeist films did a good job in showing people that there are other possibilities, but I think the people in control have already planned all of this out for at least the next century. We can still dream though can't we?
DefenceSpeech 3 months ago
I've heard about the technology, the cool architecture, the resource-based economy, it's all so incredibly beautiful, but no one is answering the one important question. How will people run it? He never talks about the political structure. He never talks about democracy. He never talks about freedom. Can anyone help me out here? Is this some kind of democratic utopia, or a technocratic oligarchy?
Etsihcrana 3 months ago
@Etsihcrana u dont listen very well rbe = no goverment they do not contribute to the good of man only to the evil its that simple when is the last time u saw a goverment do something that the people want? and whens the last time u saw a goverment do the people dont want? the first answers 0 and the second answer is 10,000,000,000
p.s stop the flouridated water reverse osmosis filtering! there are other ways to filter it out of your water its just one im nameing for you to lean on
LBFOREVERLB 3 months ago
@Etsihcrana He doesn't talk about political structure because there won't be one. the only people "running" anything will be science teams, made up of smart, motivated individuals, whose sole purpose is to solve our problems such as food production and construction. no one is controlled (which is the purpose of a political system).
ejpetersondub 3 months ago
@Etsihcrana Politicians'll not exist because the problems'll be solved by applying the scientific method. About freedom, everyone will be free to do whatever they want (except if that thing hurts somebody). When you remove the problems associated with money, shortage of food, clothes, shelter and so on, people'll not be so violent. People will be free, because they'll understand that we all are a family and racism, homophobia, classe segregation'll not do anything good to the human family.
fabioESER 3 months ago
To the one that commented about income. You said income average has gone up, and I laugh because also prices has gone up standard of living is crap. Only the real rich can have a higher standard of living. Stop worrying just about you and worry a bit about all those kids dying of hunger while CEOs spend thousands on just one meal.
ciscowilliam 3 months ago
@ciscowilliam You can afford to use a fast computer and use youtube.
The richest billionaire 50 years ago cannot afford that.
You can afford to buy an anti-biotic for sorethroat and others illnesses.
You can afford an appendectomy if you have appendicitis.
The richest billionaire 300 years ago cannot afford those.
The richest man today cannot afford the cure for cancer.
An ordinary worker 100 years into the future, maybe, who knows, maybe he can buy the cure for cancer.
juicyappleish 3 months ago 2
@juicyappleish In a resource based economy, that person wouldn't have to 'buy' it. He may simply be given it.
SlyRoach 3 months ago
What a fancy sugar-coated name for socialism.
juicyappleish 3 months ago
@juicyappleish What an ignorant comment from a person who thinks that anything other than the rusty shit box system currently employed is a pejorative comment meaning: 'a totalitarian police state.' No, my ill informed friend... Capitalism and any other inSANE systems that utilize money and markets require social stratification. The rich elite rule and we are their boot licking wage slaves. Capitalism is sugar coated fuedalism, Technocratic Anarchal Communism is heaven on earth by comparison.
elbowbiter1 3 months ago
@elbowbiter1 How can money bring problems? Money is just a tool to make exchange more convenient. Exchange still happens in Venus Project. Are you saying that if people don't trade/exchange, or if they exchange without money (barter) people would be better off?
And why is that the average salary in the USA today is today much higher than 100 years ago????
Today the average houshold income is $50,233.00
Compare that a hundred years ago, the rate has gone up and improved standard of living.
juicyappleish 3 months ago
@juicyappleish I don't think you know much about the venus project yet. Not to worry I will help you with some of it. No: there is no reason to trade in the system. No: there is no need to use money as an intermediary in this system. No: the increased numbers does not mean increased wealth... purchasing power is decreasing a long with the value of money. A hundred years ago people could purchase things with pennies that now cost bills. Peace, my friend.
elbowbiter1 3 months ago
@elbowbiter1 There is no reason to use money? What if some people WANT to trade?
Inflation is not caused by Capitalism.
Inflation is caused by a monetary policy that favors deficit spending.
And lastly, inflation does NOT erode purchasing power of a country as a whole.
Stop reading sci-fi books and start reading economics books.
juicyappleish 3 months ago
@juicyappleish Ooo, the douchery at the end there, classic argument of the defeated. No one cares about what inflation is caused by in a moneyless system. No one cares if you trade in a resource based society... it would be a massive waste of time as there is no reason to hoard personal wealth and everything you need will be supplied to you on simple request. No one said that inflation causes purchasing power to erode. Strawman much? Before you trash a thing... learn about it.
elbowbiter1 3 months ago 2
@elbowbiter1 "Strawman much? Before you trash a thing... learn about it."
I'm simply refuting your arguments that inflation is caused by capitalism.
"No one said that inflation causes purchasing power to erode."
well, you just said the opposite a few minutes ago, you typed here:
"purchasing power is decreasing a long with the value of money."
LOGIC learn something LOGIC
juicyappleish 3 months ago
@juicyappleish Yeah, you should read that sentence again with the blinders off. In no way does:
"Purchasing power is decreasing along with the value of money" =
"Purchasing power is decreasing BECAUSE OF the loss of the value of money."
So yeah, it is a straw man and demonstrably so. What you have utterly failed to do is address my original post with anything resembling a thought out argument. Looks like we all need more logic hey.
elbowbiter1 3 months ago
@elbowbiter1 Okay, then tell me what decreases purchasing power.
juicyappleish 3 months ago
@juicyappleish Why? I don't even want there to be a debate about the subject. I am advocating a system that won't have purchasing power as an attribute.
elbowbiter1 3 months ago
@elbowbiter1 just proves you can't tell the answer. You don't know the thing that's you're ranting against.
Tell me, who's going to decide how much resources each person gets?
Resources are limited. Gold, iron, and copper are limited. You cannot give a Ferrari to every person in the billions.
Who's going to decide who gets what.
If you answer 'the people' vote, that will need some council or government.
That is just similar to communism.
juicyappleish 3 months ago
@juicyappleish Oh I can answer... but why bother... I think it is about as relevant as bickering over how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. As to your question, who will decide how much access to resources people will have. It is clearly stated in their literature... and it won't be a who it will be a what. Seriously you can answer a lot of your questions by doing some honest research. You'll find all of your objections are well addressed and highly irrelevant. Ferrari's?!?! Seriously?
elbowbiter1 3 months ago 2
@juicyappleish hypothetically you don't need some big government to oversee a true democratic voting process. it is simple technology to use the internet to collect votes via polls. once the program is set -up all people have to do is cast their vote and the system tallies it up. the results can be streamed live as the process proceeds. setting up the program will need some checks and balances, but any fraud would be easy to detect, and fraud itself will not benefit anyone.
ejpetersondub 3 months ago
@juicyappleish and it is nowhere near similar to communism. leaders in communist countries are not voted it. not to mention they rely on human labor for agriculture and manufacturing which are the 2 fields we have been able to automate the most. obviously the system will not be making Ferrari's for everyone. those cars are a pure sign of social status that would be eliminated in a RBE. no one will have individual wealth to flaunt.
ejpetersondub 3 months ago
@ejpetersondub You don't get it do you? They say everyone will be rich here. There will be superabundance of goods because machines will do the work. That's the reason I asked about the ferrraris.
Adding hi-tech machines to communism will not change the fact that it's communism.
juicyappleish 3 months ago
@juicyappleish u cant be "rich" if there is no money. a high standard of living does not need to imply great wealth. u seem to be missing the most basic point of TVP. THERE IS NO MONEY!! not everyone can be rich because there will be no money. if you had the slightest clue about communism you would know that it too relies on money to function. this is the most basic concept that seems to have flown right over your head. please, think just a little bit before you write comments.
ejpetersondub 3 months ago 27
@ejpetersondub Exactly! None of the monetary systems will ultimately work.
LeftoverJedi 3 months ago 2
@ejpetersondub if you had the slightest clue about communism you would know that it too relies on money to function. this is the most basic concept that seems to have flown right over your head. please, think just a little bit before you write comments
should take your own advice, chief.
THExHOUND 1 month ago
@THExHOUND what the fuck are you talking about? i write that communism needs money right in my comment and u have the retardation to claim that i didnt know that? go back into your brain cave, troll!!!
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@ejpetersondub
im just pointing out the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about. and dont say troll, makes you look like a hipster fag. nvm, your profile picture does that.
THExHOUND 1 month ago
@ejpetersondub
Cant blame most layman for criticizing TVP, especially when they have been living under a monetary economic system SINCE BIRTH and have been for thousands of years. Humans are genetically stubborn traditionalist, it is VERY HARD to get them to accept new things when they are perfectly comfy with what they already have, even if it will lead to a slow but eventual collapse, most people will only wake up when the danger is IMMINENT, not 50 years down the road.
TheLamelyNamed 1 week ago 2
@juicyappleish The one who dicides how much recourses everyone gets is you, cause you know what you really need don't you? As Ghandi said: The world has enough for everyone's need but not for everyone's greed.
Kolderwolf 1 month ago
@juicyappleish Do you need gold? it's not eatable. Do you need a ferrari when you can travel for free (in the future maybe even up till 4000 miles an hour) with maglev-technologie? Besides, when there is no money there's no need for competition so you don't need to show of to the neigbours that you are richer than they are with fancy cars and gold. Greed and corruption are byproducs of the monetairy system. Communism is a system that also runs on money.
Kolderwolf 1 month ago
@juicyappleish you should look into consumer-ism snd why the world crisis is here today..
good look bending around that curve with a rational aproach ;)
A1r3adyT4ken 1 week ago
@juicyappleish Socialism uses money and has social stratficatons...the venusproject has none of that do your research.
TheMidwestsk8ter 3 months ago
@TheMidwestsk8ter Money is just a means to exchange goods conveniently. In Venus Project, people can still exchange goods. How can money cause poverty then?
Venus Project is only socialism coupled with hi-tech machines.
juicyappleish 3 months ago
@juicyappleish Do you even know what socialism is? Or do only have an idea of what it is b/c of what people show you on TV? Socialism fails because people are forced to work a job to supply the whole. Some have to work terrible jobs with long days while others don't. In the Venus project, you will not be forced to do anything. This system works because if you're not getting something that you want, you have the choice to live without it, or help fix it.
SlyRoach 3 months ago
I am both surprised and delighted to find that they did not paint him in a negative light. :)
SalientK 3 months ago
Why do futuristic homes always look like the Jetsons?
I'm thinking we'll be more like the Flintstones.
rubbersole79 3 months ago
If this abomination ever happened, who do you think would regulate medicine? what we eat? breath? It definitely won't be us (the people) since by then us & our children will all be unskilled, smoking pot all day [or so the supporters think]. Big brother will be regulating everything; put more fluoride & psychotic chemicals in the water, add more chemtrails, because big brother knows it's "best" for us. We will even lose the skills to test for these poisons.
Automation to the death of humans.
MysticalNinja64 3 months ago
@MysticalNinja64 Do you drink coca cola or other refrigerant? How do you thing the cans are made? By humans? Do you enjoy watching youtube videos? Where did your computer come from? Was it created by GOD? You made so negative points that I will not answer all of them.
fabioESER 3 months ago
New World Order/One World Government PROPAGANDA!
Don't fall for it people. Think about what would happen to your rights. Remember who's currently in charge (illuminati), and how ripe for abuse/enslavement this system would be.
FOX supporting it so glowingly should be evidence enough. Why do you think republican FOX would even think of supporting this communist idea (GOP/ FOX are for small govt control)? Because the only goal of those controlling the media is eventual Total Enslavement.
MysticalNinja64 3 months ago
@MysticalNinja64 First, you have no fact that this is related with "New World Order". Second, 'Your right's?' What are your rights, right now? We don't participate in the destiny of your country (don't say you vote, please), you don't have access to the things you want, only part of them... Third, Communist ideia? Are you kidding me? Comunism used money, in a Resouce Based Economy will not exist money. You'll have acess to the things you need.
fabioESER 3 months ago 2
so we're supposed to conform to one man's idea of shaping and restructuring the world? uhhhh fuck that.
jkjkjkish 3 months ago
@jkjkjkish thats why america is blind and retarded people like you
CASTLEPIE9 3 months ago
@CASTLEPIE9
haha I'm canadian therefore it is merely a foreign observation and your insult is rendered useless
jkjkjkish 3 months ago
@jkjkjkish haha im a human fuck canada.. and your observation is totally useless since your blind..
CASTLEPIE9 1 month ago
im not sure if anyone else has this Question but i do...how can i protect myself from this evil goverment?
nm4l 3 months ago 19
@nm4l first you can get the flouride out of your water so you can think clearer then get some iodine supplements
LBFOREVERLB 3 months ago
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acharya s back peddles on ALL of her zeitgeist claims and sources:
search for: The 'Real' Zeitgeist Challenge" DEBUNKED
bible condemns sun worship in Deuteronomy 17:3 and Ezekiel 8:15-16
Horus NOT A VIRGIN BIRTH
Pyramid Text line 632
Isis "placed opon thy phallus and thy seed comes forth into her"
NOT A VIRGIN BIRTH
John Gwyn Griffiths Egyptologist
search for: Zeitgeist addendum is NWO propaganda
TheTrollFU 4 months ago
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The Zeitgeist Docu is good until the Venus Project come,Is a contradiction.On the other hand .NO ,we need to rebuilt ,what take the earth to built billions of years we are destroying it in two centuries.thousands of species has dissipated and keep counting .Even Tasmania and Madagascar are been deforested,it is very sad ,here in US every lake or river is contaminated...
rafyselles 4 months ago
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rafyselles 4 months ago
they misspelled the project:
It shoulda been called PENIS PROJECT.
if you go live in the dome you get ass poked
xRussianButcher 4 months ago
@xRussianButcher
The Venus Project.
Venus = Lucifer = The Morning Star... hahaha.
deshadower 4 months ago
As we progress, more and more technologies and ideals become obsolete.
of course people who have interests in those ideals will hold on to them, and do everything in their power to stop technological progress, so their interests won't cast back by technological progress. now though it is the economy system's turn.
But, there may be few with interests in that system, but they have the ability to keep it and stop technological progress. if you look into it, the zeitgeist ideas date back to the 70s
dgurevich1 4 months ago
Lets hope this mans vision is put into practice before he dies of age. If it does, this man will be the greatest revolutionary there has ever been.
HawK047 4 months ago
AIR CARS are here already. Look up AIR CARS
IdaSputum 4 months ago
Want CLEANER AIR?
/watch?v=n-hjxFaLXAk
FaIIenBh0y 4 months ago
no fucking thanks. if this happens then george orwell is a prophet
coloursnspice 4 months ago
@coloursnspice He already IS a prophet. We are living in an Orwellian society already.
titovalasques 4 months ago
The Venus project is a blueprint for scientific dictatorship, it would only take a few minutes to look it up. These guys are fascist control-freaks. Look up "resource based society" and ask your self what place does freedom have in all of this
AtheistRightWing 4 months ago
@AtheistRightWing I guess it depends on how you define "freedom"? If it means to explore and learn new things to improve life for everyone on the planet or stay at home and take care of the family without having to be a wage-slave then I guess freedom is a given. However if your definition is more about your choice to screw up the world more by polluting it while making money for your own personal gain through selling shit to people that they don't need, then I guess it's bad.
titovalasques 4 months ago
@AtheistRightWing Freedom? Can you define freedom? Or is it just another buzzword of the Right?
Keitaro2011 4 months ago
Fox promoting zeitgeist? Designers of a future scientific dictatorship??? The man who profoundly hates the USA and it's Costitution and principles of Liberty? Well, fuck fox
AtheistRightWing 4 months ago
U simply cant sell such brilliant ideas to religious freaks.And America is full of them.
MrMethadrine 4 months ago
@MrMethadrine Whole world not only America.
1GTX1 4 months ago
This guy obviously hasn't had to deal with an automated box maker which is one of the more simple automated feats and how they constantly break down. Also, how do you automate the mining/farming/etc for raw materials? How do you know how much you need? That's a problem the Soviet Union happened. They had tons of concrete, but no food.
eurohim 4 months ago
@eurohim Watch zeitgeist 3 (zeitgeist moving forward) and all your questions will be answered
Partyffs 4 months ago
After getting some unintendedly amusing hatemail in response to my previous question, I decided to give the guy another shot by watching Future By Design, a "documentary" about his ideas and person.
In conclusion, I retract my statement on him being unintelligent. He clearly is both intelligent and creative. But the remarkably retarded company he keeps throughout the movie diminishes his purpose and appeal by a great deal. He's preaching high concepts to low people.
BIasphemer 4 months ago
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Jac doesnt have much time on Earth anymore. He's one guy that's got a vision no one can replicate. Better squeeze as much information out of him in a humanly way before he's gone. Jacq's a high school drop that was too smart for school.
TheNavyGuys 5 months ago
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TheNavyGuys 5 months ago
Get rid of the talking snake and you'll get flying cars.
lightitupfool 5 months ago
Love how this guy's wiki article basically proclaims he's the smartest guy on the planet. And then you see this. Some shabby playhouses on a cheap property in the middle of nowhere. "How will we build this society?"
-with machines
"How?"
-with science
"Yes but HOW, HOW does all this stuff WORK?"
-science has come a long way...
This guy is a fake. Great ideals, bad ideas.
BIasphemer 5 months ago
@BIasphemer American right?
What if you bothered to look how far we have come in technology and keep your comments to what is known and not to what you believe.
Partyffs 4 months ago
@Partyffs What you're accusing me of doing is exactly what this movement is doing. And you. Talking about how far technology has come, without showing how specific technical problems with the different ideas and designs should be solved; this stuff is NOT known - it is presumed.
I'll start taking this seriously when the different contraptions get a technical blueprint down to every single part and detail, and enough other scientists of reputation jump on the bandwagon.
BIasphemer 4 months ago
the only thing they failed to mention is the most important part... getting rid of the monetary system and replacing it with a resource based economy.
Maiden280 5 months ago
All retard has are a bunch of drawings LOL
tjohn1986 5 months ago
Not in America... How sad!
First, we need to start by building automated solar dish and battery factories... Just 1% of Earth's land space is all that's needed to power 10,000,000,000 people at even a better standard!
fireofenergy 5 months ago
interesting
reneonlineg1 5 months ago
Jacque fresco is a ChampioNnnnnnnn! What an awesome awesome place this world would be under these amazing designs!!!! This would ultimately be a dream well worth living in! Thanks for posting amigo:)
Cheers, peace, much love n stay gold;]
lovosazul 5 months ago
Go Venus Project!!
WOcoFunnies 5 months ago
I wonder if this guy new Buckminster Fuller? In this new society what would people do with all their free time?
Big news that our technology has outpaced our primitive thinking.
Skyluna07 5 months ago
No war? lol there will always be a war, making this stupid venus project will cause a war.
MizukiOokami01 5 months ago
@MizukiOokami01 with people thinking like you..we would probably be dead by now...
stickytoffeebeatz 5 months ago
@MizukiOokami01, The things war's are fought over will be made redundant in this system. Your argument is invalid.
superluminalthought 5 months ago
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justintylercarey 5 months ago
they don't mention rbe at all
Dinglebag 5 months ago
This man is genius.
MyMindTank 5 months ago
THE FUCKING CAPITALIST WILL NEVER ALLOW THIS HAPPEN
well they finally controlled the world
NAZMY2003 5 months ago
@nomihc36 Theres plenty of documentaries... Inside job (won an Oscar) and Zeitgeist: Moving Forward are the best I've seen.
Creebo87 5 months ago
Zeitgeist addendum! for everyone who wants answers to why we keep getting the same problems, economics, war etc. It explains that the way society is ran nowadays is old-fashion. Because with present day technology we dont need to have scarsity on water, food housing etc. and al of this comes from money.
fluim0102 5 months ago
is the u.s really corrupted? r there any documentary's i could watch that can prove this?
nomihc36 5 months ago
@nomihc36 Zeitgeist: Moving Forward
nikerocks 5 months ago
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@nomihc36 Here is a list of documentaries that I personally recomend:
Zeitgeist: Addendum*
Zeitgeist: Moving Forward *
Capitalism a love story - Michael Moore (i bet u know where he is politicaly)
Sicko - Michael Moore
Another docs. indirectly about the subject:
Collapse - Michael Ruppert
Home - (This is a really well made and beautifull movie. A "must see" for thinking beeings)
How Many People can Live on Planet Earth - BBC (On Youtube)
hcpiano 5 months ago
@nomihc36 Noam Chomsky look him up.
kotkee 5 months ago
Your fuckin machines will never rule me!!!
The420Gunslinger 5 months ago
@The420Gunslinger It is not about ruling.WE rule the machines. It is about automation, wich has expanded since the industrial revolution. Do you still think it is abad thing the "elevator guy" is gone? Or that you now can buy food from a machine and not in a store?Is that a part of your vision of those fucking machines ruling us?
hcpiano 5 months ago
how will the future look like? pff. With the "Federal Reserve" in power of the monetary system, we'll never see a good future.
EdMan2012 5 months ago
chaval informate mejor, el proyecto venus lleva más de 30 años en marcha, deja tu mente paranoica a un lado y presta atención a las soluciones que ofrece.
antoniodengra81 5 months ago
"I'll use my pictures, models and bending coil... to save the world."
antediluvian99 5 months ago
Read Walden Two, with Skinners ideas on behavioral engineering and Fresco's ideas on technology and science, the human race may have a chance.
boulterjeff 5 months ago
Don't take this wrong way, but this man is very old and when he passes I hope that people younger carry his words. This man is the most underrated genius in american history(if this landmass is even america anymore), but yet we don't embrace his mind. Why? The fact that this man has no credentials and came up with a practical world that turned into actual scientific design is only more astonishing. It's ironic that he's living to see the peak of bullshit in this world. It's a sign people. Change
KitMusicDojo 5 months ago 4
i can go on for a while to why this is nonsense, fantasy is not reality, and our reality is not turning into a fantasy.
conservthestate 5 months ago
@conservthestate
yes and people flying in the sky are fantasy too right?
until someone thought it not to be an consistently tried to prove the opposite by creating a so called flying-machine..
everything in the world is pure fantasy/fiction if you keep thinking it is ;)
A1r3adyT4ken 1 week ago
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everything in the world not invented nor proven yet is pure fantasy/fiction if you keep thinking it is ;)
A1r3adyT4ken 1 week ago
@A1r3adyT4ken tell me, what would you do about all the people that will hack your computers, and what about the millions of crazy people going around murdering and raping people. after all, you said that we should be nice to everyone. well, being nice would mean putting down our guns. you know what happens to people after they put their guns down?
conservthestate 1 week ago
@conservthestate The most over looked fact of The Venus Project and also The Zeitgeist Movement (as they are very related) is that people tend to see the physical structure (the computers, buildings, circular city, the automation) as the sole solution. I'll admit, quite often the material even portrays it that way. But that's not the case, you can't simply dump the people of today into a city of tomorrow and expect there to be harmony on any level. Humanity has to got to grow into it.
enticed2zeitgeist 5 days ago
@conservthestate I'll expand more if you like, it's hard to type it all out in 500 chars or less.
But coming from your current understanding of it all, you are quite right to have those concerns. They are very valid points which showcases how poorly the information is coming across.
enticed2zeitgeist 5 days ago
@enticed2zeitgeist well, i dont know what they left out. but you can make a message with all the information if you want
conservthestate 5 days ago