Why is it people like you must assume that the average consumer must be required to become rocket scientist just to operate something as complicated as Windows?
Don't blame the OS for you not being blessed with an average brain. Just look at yourself and how you talk, how can anyone expect a person like you to solve minor issues?
There are average people who want to use a computer simply to do work and do productive things. I don't think they're gonna want to tinker around with the computer all day long. That may be fine for you and for some other people, but the average consumer wants a computer to just do what they want it to do PERIOD!!!!
Coraxuss, that computer has not and will never be invented. Any computer has issues, if it's not with the OS then it's with an application or why your pinter output doesn't look as expected. People who don't want to deal with those issues shouldn't buy a computer or aks someone for help who does understand, that's where warranty and service contracts come in to play. And let's face it, with Windows popularity even free help is very(!) easy to find.
You can't compare a Mac with a PC either. The Mac only needs to support a limited amount of hardware, on a Windows computer this number is tens of thousands of times higher. There are thousands of different memory modules, thousands of different motherboards, cpus, graphic cards, input devices, hard drives, etc, not to mention thousands of different laptops, so yes, problems will occur, it's unavoidable.
Anyone who knows Windows (And I use Windows since 2.03) will also know that Windows always needs to mature because of this. Too many people simply have unrealistic expectation of any brand new release of Windows. Nevertheless, my Vista 64 bit with the latest service packs and more mature drivers runs rick solid. Also XP SP3 is every rock solid operating system
Perhaps the main problem with WinPCs is Microsoft's way of approaching the computer market. You have one company making the OS and other companies making the hardware. Granted that having choices are good, but not all choices are good. Windows may run better on one brand of PC than another, or maybe some features of Windows may work well than on others, we don't really know. But then you have a variety flavor of Vista and all of a sudden there's too many combinations (cont'd)
"Perhaps the main problem with WinPCs is Microsoft's way of approaching the computer market."
That's not a problem, as long as the vendors bring out descent drivers. Actually this astronomical choice (=freedom) of hardware that you have on the PC platform is what makes UNIX, Linux and Windows the most popular operating systems ever. What you want is Microsoft to become Apple and that's just not going to happen, people want that freedom.
"What you want is MIcrosoft to become Apple and that's just not going to happen..."
Actually, I did hear rumors about Microsoft planning to build a computer of their own to run Windows, but it's only a rumor, but I can't really confirm it. It's said that Microsoft has established a factory in India where they will start production of these computers. However it's just a rumor so I could be wrong most likely.
And with all these combinations which Vista will work with which OEM brand hardware, or in cases, custom-built hardware, this becomes overwhelming in my perspective. Apple however controls both hardware and software, they can integrate both of them seamlessly because they can make sure that both interact properly. Now what would be the trade-off in vertical architeture? That because much of the hardware was designed by Apple, the Macs are not going to be as customizable as PCs are. (cont'd)
No, only if all that hardware would have to be supported by a single company that writes the drivers, but that's not the case, each hardware vendor writes their own drivers or makes use of exiting drivers like you see for example with Intel chipset drivers.
And if you consider how much hardware Windows needs to support, isn't then so difficult to understand how much Windows relies on driver support to make the system stable? 99% of all drives are written by third part vendors. Most of the problems with reliability on Windows have nothing to do with Vista , they have to do with the lack of proper drivers.
For Windows to support all kinds of hardware, it needs to be designed generically and since there are several OEMs out there in the market, one must find the right combination for Windows to work decently as much as possible IMO. From this point on, configurations may be necessary for both hardware and software, but the majority consumers aren't going to know how to do that exactly.
Apple has targeted the consumers and designed the iMac and the MacBooks. These computers are limited in hardware expansion, and their designs aren't configured the way Mac Pros are for easy upgrades. Reason being? Because these computers don't focus on customizability as they are meant to be simple in design for the consumers to use and become productive. The most you can do with these Macs is upgrade RAMs and hard drives.
Yes, you're right and that's exactly the reason why lots of users stick to windows and it's those who don't care about hardware choices that are more likely to make the switch to windows. Building your own PC is a much bigger business than a lot people think! While not everybody builds their own PC, there are still millions of amateurs and professionals who build PCs on request, ANY kind of PC.
I firmly believe that this is the reason why Apple will never have the highest market share. But the truth of the matter is, that's not what they want, because otherwise they would have made OS/X fully compatible with PC hardware and that's exactly what they refuse and always will refuse.
Granted that if Apple licensed OSX to non-Apple computers, their market share would grow, but would unfortunately suffer a big trade-off and that would be the quality of its OS. Apple would have to redesign Mac OS X to conform to different kinds of hardware. Over ten years ago Apple tried to go the way of Microsoft and it nearly killed them until Steve Jobs returned.
Why are people always so stupid to get blue screens (BSOD)? I never get them on either Vista and XP.
Btw, stop watching Chris Pirillo, he's a Mac fanboy.
66oc 4 years ago
Why is it people like you must assume that the average consumer must be required to become rocket scientist just to operate something as complicated as Windows?
Coraxuss 4 years ago
Don't blame the OS for you not being blessed with an average brain. Just look at yourself and how you talk, how can anyone expect a person like you to solve minor issues?
66oc 4 years ago
There are average people who want to use a computer simply to do work and do productive things. I don't think they're gonna want to tinker around with the computer all day long. That may be fine for you and for some other people, but the average consumer wants a computer to just do what they want it to do PERIOD!!!!
Coraxuss 4 years ago
Coraxuss, that computer has not and will never be invented. Any computer has issues, if it's not with the OS then it's with an application or why your pinter output doesn't look as expected. People who don't want to deal with those issues shouldn't buy a computer or aks someone for help who does understand, that's where warranty and service contracts come in to play. And let's face it, with Windows popularity even free help is very(!) easy to find.
66oc 4 years ago
You can't compare a Mac with a PC either. The Mac only needs to support a limited amount of hardware, on a Windows computer this number is tens of thousands of times higher. There are thousands of different memory modules, thousands of different motherboards, cpus, graphic cards, input devices, hard drives, etc, not to mention thousands of different laptops, so yes, problems will occur, it's unavoidable.
66oc 4 years ago
Anyone who knows Windows (And I use Windows since 2.03) will also know that Windows always needs to mature because of this. Too many people simply have unrealistic expectation of any brand new release of Windows. Nevertheless, my Vista 64 bit with the latest service packs and more mature drivers runs rick solid. Also XP SP3 is every rock solid operating system
66oc 4 years ago
Perhaps the main problem with WinPCs is Microsoft's way of approaching the computer market. You have one company making the OS and other companies making the hardware. Granted that having choices are good, but not all choices are good. Windows may run better on one brand of PC than another, or maybe some features of Windows may work well than on others, we don't really know. But then you have a variety flavor of Vista and all of a sudden there's too many combinations (cont'd)
Coraxuss 4 years ago
"Perhaps the main problem with WinPCs is Microsoft's way of approaching the computer market."
That's not a problem, as long as the vendors bring out descent drivers. Actually this astronomical choice (=freedom) of hardware that you have on the PC platform is what makes UNIX, Linux and Windows the most popular operating systems ever. What you want is Microsoft to become Apple and that's just not going to happen, people want that freedom.
66oc 4 years ago
"What you want is MIcrosoft to become Apple and that's just not going to happen..."
Actually, I did hear rumors about Microsoft planning to build a computer of their own to run Windows, but it's only a rumor, but I can't really confirm it. It's said that Microsoft has established a factory in India where they will start production of these computers. However it's just a rumor so I could be wrong most likely.
Coraxuss 3 years ago
And with all these combinations which Vista will work with which OEM brand hardware, or in cases, custom-built hardware, this becomes overwhelming in my perspective. Apple however controls both hardware and software, they can integrate both of them seamlessly because they can make sure that both interact properly. Now what would be the trade-off in vertical architeture? That because much of the hardware was designed by Apple, the Macs are not going to be as customizable as PCs are. (cont'd)
Coraxuss 4 years ago
"this becomes overwhelming in my perspective"
No, only if all that hardware would have to be supported by a single company that writes the drivers, but that's not the case, each hardware vendor writes their own drivers or makes use of exiting drivers like you see for example with Intel chipset drivers.
66oc 3 years ago
And if you consider how much hardware Windows needs to support, isn't then so difficult to understand how much Windows relies on driver support to make the system stable? 99% of all drives are written by third part vendors. Most of the problems with reliability on Windows have nothing to do with Vista , they have to do with the lack of proper drivers.
66oc 4 years ago
For Windows to support all kinds of hardware, it needs to be designed generically and since there are several OEMs out there in the market, one must find the right combination for Windows to work decently as much as possible IMO. From this point on, configurations may be necessary for both hardware and software, but the majority consumers aren't going to know how to do that exactly.
Coraxuss 4 years ago
Apple has targeted the consumers and designed the iMac and the MacBooks. These computers are limited in hardware expansion, and their designs aren't configured the way Mac Pros are for easy upgrades. Reason being? Because these computers don't focus on customizability as they are meant to be simple in design for the consumers to use and become productive. The most you can do with these Macs is upgrade RAMs and hard drives.
Coraxuss 4 years ago
Yes, you're right and that's exactly the reason why lots of users stick to windows and it's those who don't care about hardware choices that are more likely to make the switch to windows. Building your own PC is a much bigger business than a lot people think! While not everybody builds their own PC, there are still millions of amateurs and professionals who build PCs on request, ANY kind of PC.
66oc 3 years ago
I firmly believe that this is the reason why Apple will never have the highest market share. But the truth of the matter is, that's not what they want, because otherwise they would have made OS/X fully compatible with PC hardware and that's exactly what they refuse and always will refuse.
66oc 3 years ago
Granted that if Apple licensed OSX to non-Apple computers, their market share would grow, but would unfortunately suffer a big trade-off and that would be the quality of its OS. Apple would have to redesign Mac OS X to conform to different kinds of hardware. Over ten years ago Apple tried to go the way of Microsoft and it nearly killed them until Steve Jobs returned.
Coraxuss 3 years ago
Correction: "that are more likely to make the switch to windows" = "that are more likely to make the switch to Mac".
66oc 3 years ago