wow, look at how boxing was then and 20 years ago, so many good matches. Boxing was so much more interesting back then, today it sucks. Its so bad that i would like to watch cricket instead of boxing.
"I've done wrestle an aligator, Tustled with a whale, Handcuffed lightning & thrown thunder in jail. Only last week I murdered a rock, injuried a stone, hospitalized a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick." - Muhammad Ali.
sometime people just get on my nerves, the last thing two exhausted fighters need is to be surrounded by a huge crowd, causing more heat and taking up more air, get the fuck out of the ring!
Oh, there's no question...it's not even argueable. Muhammad Ali is the greatest and best heavyweight champ in history.
No fighter ever fought as many quality opponents as Ali. The heavyweight division, during Ali's time, had far more talent than at any other time, and Ali fought them all, and beat them all.
@Beteje92 He might not be the greatest technical boxer, but people like him for what he did outside the ring. And instead of laughing at him, take a second and reflect on what you have done with your life. Ali did more in ten seonds of a simple boxing round than what you could do your entire life..
And the 1967 Ali was the greatest, fastest, quickets and most beautiful fighter out there
notice how Ali is fair play? Never hit the other guy when they're stuck to each other... never tries to hurt Frazier in a lousy way, when they're in each others arms... True player, real sportsman.
You won't agree but Ali was nothing more than a overhyped slapper, Frazier had one punch, Foreman moved at the speed of a glacier, Marciano had no skill, Louis was... well actually he was good! If Klitchko was around back then, you blindly nostalgic laymans would think he was a legend. P.s he's not.
Frazier clearly won the fight. howard cowsell really pissing me off talking SHIT! he just completely sucks Ali's arse hole, alot of these Ali flurries of like 6 7 punches are not really landing, only i would say 2 or 3 not 6 or 7 like cosell was making out. Ali misses a lot in the flurries. and the fast jabs are not all landing as smoke is bobbing and weaving constantly.
Why is this fight not mentioned like the first and third fights? Are they only fighting 12 rounds because no tiltes were involved?
I know for the casual boxing fan this fight is no where near the 1st and 3rd but I've heard many boxing fans say this was a very underrated fight and deserves to be placed on the level as the other fights between Ali and Frazier
11th close, draw ? 12th Frazier. If you think Ali won 12th with the hyperbole you don't know boxing. A quick flash is there to fool you. Were you fooled ? lol Strong argument Frazier won the fight. The MOST significant shots were landed by Frazier. Good fight, seen for the upteenth time.
I had Ali winning the fight 8rds-4. Ali just had a way better game plan this time around. Joe looked like his career was pretty much over, no where close to being as intense as he was in the first. Alot less power on his punches. Foreman prob beat whatever fight joe had left out of him.
This is how the FIRST fight should have and could have went if Ali was actually in shape for it and not clowning around. Here, you can tell he prepared his ass off just from the fact that his build is noticeably more muscular and lean and he was able to stay on his toes and dance almost the entire fight. Even a past-his-prime Ali who was in shape could make Joe look like a amateur. Imagine what it would have been like if Ali had never been exiled. Frazier would have had zero chance.
As I saw document with guys all over around Ali, and Frazier, I found out, that Ali had something strange in his mind, and personnaly I don't think he is a cool guy.
I must say his punches are very accurate, but Frazier has punch like "horse". in this match both guys don't contend, they want to beat each other to possibly death.
did u know, that Frazier was amlmost blind to left eye since 1964 or 1965? and he almost beat Ali 2 times of 3...Ali had PR, Frazier was true sportman.
Clinching & holding are a part of fighting. If you don't know how to wrestle the opponent he's going to out wrestle you and tire you out, case and point Ali vs Foreman. Another good example is Sugar Ray Leanord vs Hearns 1. Hearns didn't have any of those infighting skills and got KO'd in the 14th when Leanord got him against the ropes.
But if you make a PLAN of holding on and clinching, that's a good way to loose your teeth, or get disqualified, loose points, etc. By the way MMA fights seem
i scored this fight 9 - 3 to ali. when ali is in good shape he doesnt really lose. he always performed better when he was lighter and slimmer. the extra weight after the foreman fight did no good to him.
very poor performance from joe fraizer. i only gave him 1 round. ali clearly won at least 9 rounds. i counted the punches very carefully. i included fraizer's bodyshots as well. ali clearly scored more punches. no question about that.
What people don't know is that Frazier invited Ali to clinch. Frazier used the clinches to rest. People need to stop making excuses for Frazier with the clinches. Ali outboxed him and won 9 rounds easily. Frazier won 4 rounds at BEST. Theres a reason why Frazier came out firing wildly in the 12th round, he knew he was loosing badly and needed a knockout. Lopsided win for Ali.
comparing ali to frazier is so stupid, ali is dictating his fight in every match that s why is the all timer. i more understand his famous quote about his style after watching this.
I don't always care for how 'beyond sympathetic' Cosell is toward Ali, but he is absolutely right that Ali had a great chin, and that that is an element to his success that is often overlooked. I also agree that neither fighter in this fight looked even near as good as in their first match (which I regard as one of boxing's all-time classics -- top 5). Also, as has been repeatedly pointed out, MA's incessant hanging on JF's neck mars the fight & should've been stopped from round 1.
Ever see Lennox Lewis fight Henry Akinwande back in the 1990's? Akinwande decided he didn't want to be in there even before the fight started, spent round after round grabbing Lewis in every exchange. Referee Mills Lane warned him multiple times to start fighting, to no effect. Lane finally disqualified Akinwande, who criminally still got his purse for the bout. Ali's holding here wasn't nearly in that class, but it sure as hell was worth some early warnings, then deductions if he persisted.
How much skill does it take to clinch someone? Anyone with two arms and decent upper body strength can do it. Amazing how the referee, judges and media gave Ali a free pass on turning a 12-round professional fight into a 4-round hug-fest. How many warnings and deductions do you think 130 clinches should merit in the scoring of this fight? Joe never clinched once. And if George Foreman couldn't keep Joe on the canvas eight times, what makes anyone think Ali had the strength to do it?
Toufuckingche XavierMarciano. Ali looked like the Dean of the "Andre Durrell School of Holding/Clinching/Holding Around Neck..."Oh, & we also saw the famous dancing durrell technique mixed in. Perez was WIDELY criticized 4 allowing outrageously excessive holding/neck grabbing, etcfckngcetera, every fcking round. Didn't want to absorb punishmnt as in 71 - the 1st fight when Joe Smoked his fuckin, bigmouth ass.
@rocketman2442 But he didn't. He's just lucky, as the white man's BOY, that Tony Perez saved him from the KO he was on the way of getting, in the 2nd round.
@Soulblackman How dare you call Joe Frazier the white man's BOY, Joe Frazier was as black as it got. He came from a very humble crop growing family. On the other hand Ali came from an upper middle class family. Oh yes lets look at Fraziers corner, there's three black men in that corner. On Ali's corner there's two white men. It's a shame Ali conned ignorant fools like yourself into believing that Frazier represented the white populace. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@XavierMarciano So, being POOR, makes on BLACK? Frazier, because he wasn't forced to take a stance vs. "Nam, was, whether he liked it or not, the white man's BOY! He was the "anti-Ali", the GOOD BOY, who would have GLADLY killed "them VietCong". In II, Ali had Frazier GOING, so Perez, "suddenly" heard the "bell", that NO ONE to this day, heard. There was NO WAY they were going to let Ali KO their BOY, even if it meant IMAGINARY BELLS.
@Soulblackman Your nothing more than an extremist muslim, your the "boy", your the slave, slave to your religon Islam, it clouds every judgement you make, if frazier was Muslim you would have exhaulted his praises. I have seen your page, talk about an extremist. Your one Muslim rally away from being a suicide bomber. How did the ref "SAVE" Frazier, from a knockdown maybe!! What you don't think Frazier would have got up!! He got up six times against Foreman. Get real you idiot.
@XavierMarciano There is NO WAY Perez heard a damn bell; like I said, Frazier, whether he liked it or not, WAS the anti-Ali, thus the white man's BOY! Suicide bomber? Ur a FOOL, who can't defend his position! Even if Frazier had gotten up, he STILL had to be protected. Now, since we're on FOREMAN, there was a pt. where he was going for the kill [again], and Mercante, inexplicably pulled him off. you can see Saddler going ballistic over that. Frazier HAD to be protected, as he was their boy.
@XavierMarciano And by the way, you're nothing more than a white supremacist, who loves to defend his BOYS. IF Frazier was Muslim, you'd be slinging arrows at him, similar to what you're trying to do now. Furthermore, I'm ALWAYS amazed at how many people visit my page. Hell, I rarely go there myself. I don't go to yours, because you're NOT worth it. Get it? As good of a fighter Frazier was, the fact remains, he can NEVER be considered in the class of Ali, because he did NOT fight heavy hitters
@XavierMarciano Shavers, Williams or Lyle. He ONLY had 37 fights, to Ali's 72, and then the FOOL gloats about what HE did to cause Ali's eventual and existing health conditions. So, go back and glorify your BOY! I'll keep him in proper perspective.
@rocketman2442 Why? As the commentators said and WE ALL SAW IT happen, Frazier´s face was used as target practice in this fight. No excuses for Joe, he lost to a better boxer that night, not to mention the referee saved Frazier from being knocked out by Ali in the 2nd round.
Ali held illegally way to much but the ref probs didnt warn him. Considering hes an outside boxer he couldve stepped away (especially in the first few rounds when he had lots of energy) and joe fraizer lol couldve counter punched ali every time he ducked with strong hooks to the kidney or stiff jabs but besides tht i very gd fight real barnburner ;) but im probz wrong cos these guys are some of the best boxer of all time so i should probz shut up XP
R1 ali holds 11 times, R2 ali holds 6 times, R3 ali holds 10 times, R4 ali holds 12 times, R5 ali holds 12 times, R6 ali holds 11 times, R7 ali holds 14 times, R8 ali holds 14 times, R9 ali holds 13 times, R10 ali holds 13 times, R11 ali holds 13 times, R12 ali holds 13 times. I have checked this three times, Im not wrong. In total thats 142 illegal holds by ali, without warning, points deduction, disqualification. Its disgraceful how much ali holds, love to here what ali fans have to say on it.
@XavierMarciano ---a certain amount of holding is tolerated by the refs, even though he breaks them. Almost every fighter holds at some point. Very seldom does a fighter get penalized for holding. It was part of Ali's style when fightin a puncher, as was his style of dancing and moving around. But as howard said, they were both clearly past their primes at this point
@XavierMarciano oh u know how it is! ali is the greatest because he says so, so he must be. No Ali is not the greatest. he's great but overrated. howard cosell really pisses me off in this fight, just sucking Ali's arse hole. Joe clearly wins. You know i don't think Ali ever beat Frazier. and yeah the holding is discusting.
@ayresy89 I agree, totally, mate! I have a book called "The One Hundred Greatest Boxers", and the author had Ali at number one, POUND FOR POUND! Better than Ray Robinson, no less. This is the type of shit we deal with. Ali was great, but so was Frazier, and the Ali fans never forgave Joe for kicking Ali's ass in the first fight. Now nobody can suggest that Ali isn't the number one ever. My call is Joe Louis, but Ali is untouchable to many. Pisses me off, big time!
@dicktiger68 yeah! i also put Joe Louis 1) as greatest heavyweight! i don't get it when people put any heavyweight really infront of the brown bomber.
@Soulblackman I have seen two of your other comments made, and what you don't seem to understand, which shows how little you know about these two fighters and how ignorant these comments are, is that Ali was very clever and for him to call Joe an uncle tom was extremely stupid, and so one with interest, facts and an understanding for these two fighters can only conclude that Muhammad was talking nonsense, shit, to shock and build their fights up. This talk was an act, Ali confirms this himself.
@ayresy89 YET, there was a hint of bitter truth to what Ali said, which is why, to nearly the end, Frazier, wracked with a sense of inferiority and resentment, HATED Ali.
How do you think black Philadelphia felt about own of their own in Joe Frazier openly declaring his support for Frank Rizzo? As I understand,Rizzo was a very unpopular figure among blacks within Philadelphia.
@tapiaassasin That's a good question. I never got any sense of that, but I would guess, because he was respected, he was given somewhat of a pass on that. Hell, Rizzo was tough with anyone in Philly; ask the white fireman who got beaten up by a cop, during Rizzo's regime. And then again, you have to wonder how black people in Philly, receive Wilson Goode, for his justifying the bombing of MOVE.
The fact that "you dont get" why somebody would place another fighter ahead of Louis in an all time heavyweight list is an clear cut evidence of how foolish and ignorant you are.If you cant see why people would place Ali,who's overall level of competition faced takes one giant dump over Louis and his resume then there really is no helping you.
@tapiaassasin haha you just said to me " Ali, who's overall level of competition faced takes one giant dump over Louis and his resume" shows just how ignorant you are.
No,it's simply common knowledge.Louis level of competition was generally solid with the odd elite level heavyweight(walcott and schmeling) but that was it.Ali's resume speaks for it self,and the fact that he was able to beat the level of competition that he did while an obviously diminished fighter in the 70's speaks volumes of how good he was.Now explain to me why this doesnt compare to louis and why there isnt a single credible argument to be made for ali being rated over louis.
@tapiaassasin i love Ali. did some great things out of the ring, i'd place him at 2 or 3 as greatest heavyweight. but as far a boxing skills go i think he was a little overrated. i don't need to justify why i put louis as greater boxer than Ali, there is always going to be this argument ali or louis, louis ali. brown bomber or louisville lip, yea whatever! different eras, they are the greatest, i place Joe Louis Barrow at NO. 1 heavyweight, you might put Ali as NO.1 heavyweight end.
You stated that "you dont get why" anyone would put another heavyweight in front of louis.whether you rate Louis as the greatest heavyweight isnt the issue here; it's the fact that you're so dismissive of any other fighter being placed in front of him,as if Louis was unquestionably the greatest heavyweight and that there isnt a single credible argument to be made for Ali or anybody else being placed above him.
@tapiaassasin Plus, until late in his career, Louis did not fight black boxers. Louis had greater power than Ali, but his slower foot speed would have put him at a great disadvantage. Just think about how Billy Conn, who would have been champ, had he not gotten careless, handled Louis.
@ayresy89 Ali OWNED Frazier in this fight. And to his dying day, Frazier HATED the fact that Ali WHUPPED the man that WHUPPED him like a spoiled child.
@Soulblackman Okay, and how do you know that joe hated the fact? this fight is a farse, and i think you will find if you actually watch and score this fight, joe lands alot more convincing shots to the body and head then Ali actually lands, oh and not to mention the 100 + foul holding ali does. i also think you should find, styles makes fights. joe didn't hate the fact foreman whupped him. Joe gave foreman all the credit for it. would ali give foreman another chance, oh no he wouldn't.
Too be honest i like ali as much as the next guy but all he did throughout this was grapple everytime he was in the corner, he defo feared fraziers power
@bangitslo Have to disagree with you big time. Frazier put on an amazing performance in the '71 fight and deserved the win. Ali won some big rounds but Frazier was just not going to be beaten that night. He was even taunting Ali and getting away with it and making Ali miss. He was busier, more aggressive, and the 15th round knockdown capped it. Considering Ali was naturally bigger, stronger, and faster, I think Frazier's performance was heroic. I love Ali, but Frazier kicked his ass in '71.
@zapboook dunno about kicked his arse but yeah he did win. soem of that was clearly down down to ali beign out for 3 years and gettign older. he was no where near his prime. and i woudl say joe is stronger as whole than ali. ali was just bigger and faster
@bestlions He won the fight!yes,but remember, he didn't get pressured by williams or terrel like frazier did. Who know's what would have happend to Ali if he met a fighter like Frazier in '67!We'll never know really.All we know is Ali beat Quarry and Bonevena,,some people say that wasn't enough! Who the heck was he supposed to fight to prepare for Frazier!.the only way was to fight Frazier!,,and he lost! He thought he could beat him march 8th but he was wrong! Frazier was right! That's it!
@bestlions Oh really?? Do I have your word on that?? All of these "if's" and "but's"!! "but if Ali would have fought him in "67"!!"..yea...and if frog's had wings they wouldn't bump their ass when they jumped..
@bestlions I agree. I think the scoring was biased towards Frazier in both the 1st and 2nd fights. Not that I don't think Frazier won the 1st, but he didn't "dominate" like so many say he did. Ali never gets the big punches in but he is pummeling Frazier with the jab all day long.
THT F>CKNG sucks the ref kept pulng thm aprt evey tme they evn strted to tie up,BS! Tht is tking awy frm the flow of the fght and also tking awy from JOE and how he wld cme in close and hit body blows(thts prt of how he fghts!) Thts like if the ref pushed thm tgther every time Ali strted hitting frm the otside F.I.X.E.D,.It is a shame becse we will nver knw who wld have won tht imprtnt 2nd fight .
Ali landed ridiculously more shots than Frazier. In a number of rounds Frazier failed to land a head shot and Ali landed about 20. In terms of power punches, Ali landed a number of meaty left and right jabs, regular combinations. To me 6-4-1 by round 11 looked generous, Frazier apparently won round 3 with 1 body shot and work rate.
If the round is dead even, work rate and body shots come into it, not if one fighter has landed significantly more head shots.
This is the first time I heard Larry Merchant´s name... I mean, the earliest time, 1974... Larry was a young guy, and coming through the ranks, and when Cosell died, he was his heir... as Lampley is Merchant´s heir...
But Merchant´s score of Ali-Frazier I was wrong. Close fight, but 8-7 Frazier.
there are 2 types of fighters..."to hit and not be hit" fighter, and the "not be hit and hit" fighter. u can match it up rite, boxing has been this way since the early 20's. and it wont change, if u fight in the inside, ur jaw bettr be bouncing up and down trying to not got hit.
The number of punches landed is hardly an accurate criteria for the winner in professional boxing. Ali landed way more punches in the first fight but this did not change the fact Frazier's punches did more damage. Syrandon wins the all time foot in mouth award for ignorantly calling Frazier a coward, a man who got off the canvas eight times against Foreman, and had to be stopped from fighting Ali blind in the 15th in Manila. And why, Anikin, does Frazier deserve the Uncle Tom label?
Sportshistorybuff...Seems to me,,any black man that works hard,,tries to get along with all the people he meets thoughout the day,,is not a racist,,follows the law's of the land,,,is certainly up for the "uncle tom" award..that's my take from my observations in my life...
Seems Ali was winning rounds on a few jabs, many of which missed, and lots of holding. Perez gave him over 100 warnings for holding behind the neck without taking a single point away. Just one of many officiating gifts he received in his career.
As an aside to that Cosell was completely clueless when it came to boxing. Poor chap didn't even know what he was watching half the time.
wow, look at how boxing was then and 20 years ago, so many good matches. Boxing was so much more interesting back then, today it sucks. Its so bad that i would like to watch cricket instead of boxing.
TheKPRZ 2 days ago
While watching this Im thinkin to myself... "DO THE SHUFFLE!!!" xD Very Good Match:)
sethbennett15 2 weeks ago
"I've done wrestle an aligator, Tustled with a whale, Handcuffed lightning & thrown thunder in jail. Only last week I murdered a rock, injuried a stone, hospitalized a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick." - Muhammad Ali.
sethbennett15 2 weeks ago
it's such a polite fight :P
BabygalLondon 3 weeks ago
sometime people just get on my nerves, the last thing two exhausted fighters need is to be surrounded by a huge crowd, causing more heat and taking up more air, get the fuck out of the ring!
agip07 3 weeks ago
LOL, that Left Joe threw at 1:26 woulda knocked Ali's head off his shoulders LOL!!
agip07 3 weeks ago
great stuff good work rate both men to the end.
MrTokelosh 3 weeks ago
Lol Larry Merchant.
musood6630 1 month ago
what is oj simpson doing there??
emirler86 1 month ago
Oh, there's no question...it's not even argueable. Muhammad Ali is the greatest and best heavyweight champ in history.
No fighter ever fought as many quality opponents as Ali. The heavyweight division, during Ali's time, had far more talent than at any other time, and Ali fought them all, and beat them all.
namhie94 1 month ago
So true. Two great men in this fight who gave it their all. Very sad that this era will never be replicated.
vgr112261 2 weeks ago
ali the greatest ? HAHAHAHAHA great joke
Beteje92 1 month ago
@Beteje92 He might not be the greatest technical boxer, but people like him for what he did outside the ring. And instead of laughing at him, take a second and reflect on what you have done with your life. Ali did more in ten seonds of a simple boxing round than what you could do your entire life..
And the 1967 Ali was the greatest, fastest, quickets and most beautiful fighter out there
michaelyouth 1 month ago 2
@Beteje92
yes Greatest, fuck off
PanQiu997 1 month ago
notice how Ali is fair play? Never hit the other guy when they're stuck to each other... never tries to hurt Frazier in a lousy way, when they're in each others arms... True player, real sportsman.
mhatthei 2 months ago 7
@mhatthei id disagree hes just smart he waits to use his energy on vital shots
Streetwrites 3 weeks ago
Ali won yay
SanMono9 2 months ago
8:29
Cigarette smoking man
JSPHawk 2 months ago
Quite boring boxing match.
JoseJalopeno1 2 months ago
@JoseJalopeno1 i bet you've never been in a fight in your life.
dangmonkey1 2 months ago
@dangmonkey1 Lennox Lewis - Tyson match had much more energy and power (and remember Tyson wasn't anymore in his best shape on those matches).
JoseJalopeno1 2 months ago
ufffffffffff toda una leyenda!!
joseernesto18 2 months ago
Rocky I jajajaja
penquista21 2 months ago
MIEWHAMED ALI! What a dweeb announcer!
percoplus 3 months ago
Wasn't a terribly exciting bout.
capablemachine 3 months ago
the news was bush league back then lol
MrChessmove 3 months ago
You won't agree but Ali was nothing more than a overhyped slapper, Frazier had one punch, Foreman moved at the speed of a glacier, Marciano had no skill, Louis was... well actually he was good! If Klitchko was around back then, you blindly nostalgic laymans would think he was a legend. P.s he's not.
scousesheep 3 months ago
That was boxing!! Not that shit they play now!
2415elcapitan 3 months ago
@bangitslo You don't sound too bright anyway. Ali didn't win anymore than 5 or 6 rounds of the '71 fight.
MelC54 3 months ago
Frazier ko ali
arael76 4 months ago
Frazier clearly won the fight. howard cowsell really pissing me off talking SHIT! he just completely sucks Ali's arse hole, alot of these Ali flurries of like 6 7 punches are not really landing, only i would say 2 or 3 not 6 or 7 like cosell was making out. Ali misses a lot in the flurries. and the fast jabs are not all landing as smoke is bobbing and weaving constantly.
ayresy89 4 months ago
frankly, i had it perfectly even, with frazier winning 4,5,7,8,10,12 and ali winning 1,2,3,6,9,11
carlitoboxing7 4 months ago
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R.I.P. Smokin Joe!!!
Why is this fight not mentioned like the first and third fights? Are they only fighting 12 rounds because no tiltes were involved?
I know for the casual boxing fan this fight is no where near the 1st and 3rd but I've heard many boxing fans say this was a very underrated fight and deserves to be placed on the level as the other fights between Ali and Frazier
Miles3363 4 months ago
11th close, draw ? 12th Frazier. If you think Ali won 12th with the hyperbole you don't know boxing. A quick flash is there to fool you. Were you fooled ? lol Strong argument Frazier won the fight. The MOST significant shots were landed by Frazier. Good fight, seen for the upteenth time.
1saxonwolf 4 months ago
@1saxonwolf This was a very good fight by both fighters,I had Ali winning the 11th and 12th,he was simply too fast for Joe.
Irishfanism 4 months ago
The murderer OJ is on here, lol
Vergon3256 5 months ago
I had Ali winning the fight 8rds-4. Ali just had a way better game plan this time around. Joe looked like his career was pretty much over, no where close to being as intense as he was in the first. Alot less power on his punches. Foreman prob beat whatever fight joe had left out of him.
MrScarface6055 5 months ago in playlist Ali vs Frazier II (1/28/74)
Joe showin' some class!
tyronebiggimsh 5 months ago 4
man when ali moved and danced in the ring nobody could beat him.
kuriaki71 5 months ago
ali winner? WTF!!!
PirulitoEreto 5 months ago
Ten komentator jest beznadziejny.
123Santur 6 months ago
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This is how the FIRST fight should have and could have went if Ali was actually in shape for it and not clowning around. Here, you can tell he prepared his ass off just from the fact that his build is noticeably more muscular and lean and he was able to stay on his toes and dance almost the entire fight. Even a past-his-prime Ali who was in shape could make Joe look like a amateur. Imagine what it would have been like if Ali had never been exiled. Frazier would have had zero chance.
LedWhisky69 6 months ago
Frazier's face looked battered, they seem pretty effect punches.......Joe!
JRGrange25 6 months ago
GIVE ME SOME PROTECTION PLEASE!! LMAO HIS VOICE IS TO FUNNY
ABCDEFG4267 6 months ago
the killer OJ
mrfunkeymunkey1 7 months ago
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counterstriving 7 months ago
think anyone else but frazier would fall! at least in the last round! wholy shit! some mean bombcombos by ali!
KaNaCkStAr21 7 months ago
As I saw document with guys all over around Ali, and Frazier, I found out, that Ali had something strange in his mind, and personnaly I don't think he is a cool guy.
I must say his punches are very accurate, but Frazier has punch like "horse". in this match both guys don't contend, they want to beat each other to possibly death.
did u know, that Frazier was amlmost blind to left eye since 1964 or 1965? and he almost beat Ali 2 times of 3...Ali had PR, Frazier was true sportman.
cobychnikdynesezral 7 months ago
@cobychnikdynesezral bro, Ali is the GREATEST, period.
AwesomeMB7Cowboy 6 months ago
@AwesomeMB7Cowboy and ain't nobody topping him PERIOD!!
demariojason 5 months ago
@demariojason =)
AwesomeMB7Cowboy 5 months ago
wtf somethign strange in his mind? what motivation, ambittion, the mind of a winner? you dont even say what it is cause its plain bull shit.
elNikobonito 5 months ago
Thanks for a great vid. And fuck off wiggling OJ.
Nocturne9999 8 months ago 34
muhamad ali quaeda
HebusxJebus 8 months ago
smoken jose face looks bad
ecosby100 9 months ago 2
Clinching & holding are a part of fighting. If you don't know how to wrestle the opponent he's going to out wrestle you and tire you out, case and point Ali vs Foreman. Another good example is Sugar Ray Leanord vs Hearns 1. Hearns didn't have any of those infighting skills and got KO'd in the 14th when Leanord got him against the ropes.
But if you make a PLAN of holding on and clinching, that's a good way to loose your teeth, or get disqualified, loose points, etc. By the way MMA fights seem
IASOU2005 9 months ago
Its all about his footwork.
erikkk54 9 months ago
Both great men and great champions. I wish Joe and Ali would bury the hatchet before it is too late.
music4life829 9 months ago
nice name "Boxing a tit's best"
:p
nyway nice bout
Nemitorsis 9 months ago
i scored this fight 9 - 3 to ali. when ali is in good shape he doesnt really lose. he always performed better when he was lighter and slimmer. the extra weight after the foreman fight did no good to him.
1990evren 10 months ago 2
joe frazier thinks he won. he must be an imbecile.
1990evren 10 months ago 2
Two very poor bums in a backyard fight...
AgentPaulSmecker 10 months ago
very poor performance from joe fraizer. i only gave him 1 round. ali clearly won at least 9 rounds. i counted the punches very carefully. i included fraizer's bodyshots as well. ali clearly scored more punches. no question about that.
1990evren 10 months ago
What people don't know is that Frazier invited Ali to clinch. Frazier used the clinches to rest. People need to stop making excuses for Frazier with the clinches. Ali outboxed him and won 9 rounds easily. Frazier won 4 rounds at BEST. Theres a reason why Frazier came out firing wildly in the 12th round, he knew he was loosing badly and needed a knockout. Lopsided win for Ali.
vladiator100 10 months ago 2
Ali,,,is cheating!!!!!...breaking the rules...hanging..all..over Smoking Joe's neck...Ali should be ashamed..of himself!!!!
divisionmagus 11 months ago
@bangitslo
I scored the first fight 8-6-1 and this one 8-4 for Ali.
Rdenn9001 11 months ago
thanks for letting me know who won, i didnt wanna be suprised.
cursiver 11 months ago
Does anybody know why Ali will just hold Frazier's held in like a held lock?
NBVvideos 11 months ago
comparing ali to frazier is so stupid, ali is dictating his fight in every match that s why is the all timer. i more understand his famous quote about his style after watching this.
pinusstrikesback 11 months ago
I don't always care for how 'beyond sympathetic' Cosell is toward Ali, but he is absolutely right that Ali had a great chin, and that that is an element to his success that is often overlooked. I also agree that neither fighter in this fight looked even near as good as in their first match (which I regard as one of boxing's all-time classics -- top 5). Also, as has been repeatedly pointed out, MA's incessant hanging on JF's neck mars the fight & should've been stopped from round 1.
pnutbutrncrackers 11 months ago
Ever see Lennox Lewis fight Henry Akinwande back in the 1990's? Akinwande decided he didn't want to be in there even before the fight started, spent round after round grabbing Lewis in every exchange. Referee Mills Lane warned him multiple times to start fighting, to no effect. Lane finally disqualified Akinwande, who criminally still got his purse for the bout. Ali's holding here wasn't nearly in that class, but it sure as hell was worth some early warnings, then deductions if he persisted.
sportshistorybuff 1 year ago
How much skill does it take to clinch someone? Anyone with two arms and decent upper body strength can do it. Amazing how the referee, judges and media gave Ali a free pass on turning a 12-round professional fight into a 4-round hug-fest. How many warnings and deductions do you think 130 clinches should merit in the scoring of this fight? Joe never clinched once. And if George Foreman couldn't keep Joe on the canvas eight times, what makes anyone think Ali had the strength to do it?
sportshistorybuff 1 year ago
stay there, stay there baby, stay there ^^
omgzorz1235 1 year ago
Cosell was disgusting !!
faltagh 1 year ago
Toufuckingche XavierMarciano. Ali looked like the Dean of the "Andre Durrell School of Holding/Clinching/Holding Around Neck..."Oh, & we also saw the famous dancing durrell technique mixed in. Perez was WIDELY criticized 4 allowing outrageously excessive holding/neck grabbing, etcfckngcetera, every fcking round. Didn't want to absorb punishmnt as in 71 - the 1st fight when Joe Smoked his fuckin, bigmouth ass.
3244gorilla 1 year ago
It would have been 2nd round knockout if the referee didn't save smokin joe.
boxingiscruel 1 year ago
ha Ali is smart he out smart him and win on decision.
hotboyme 1 year ago
4:00 so true, sooo true
ThomasWinkworth 1 year ago
joe frazier should've won
rocketman2442 1 year ago
@rocketman2442 But he didn't. He's just lucky, as the white man's BOY, that Tony Perez saved him from the KO he was on the way of getting, in the 2nd round.
Soulblackman 1 year ago
@Soulblackman How dare you call Joe Frazier the white man's BOY, Joe Frazier was as black as it got. He came from a very humble crop growing family. On the other hand Ali came from an upper middle class family. Oh yes lets look at Fraziers corner, there's three black men in that corner. On Ali's corner there's two white men. It's a shame Ali conned ignorant fools like yourself into believing that Frazier represented the white populace. You should be ashamed of yourself.
XavierMarciano 3 months ago
@XavierMarciano So, being POOR, makes on BLACK? Frazier, because he wasn't forced to take a stance vs. "Nam, was, whether he liked it or not, the white man's BOY! He was the "anti-Ali", the GOOD BOY, who would have GLADLY killed "them VietCong". In II, Ali had Frazier GOING, so Perez, "suddenly" heard the "bell", that NO ONE to this day, heard. There was NO WAY they were going to let Ali KO their BOY, even if it meant IMAGINARY BELLS.
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@Soulblackman Your nothing more than an extremist muslim, your the "boy", your the slave, slave to your religon Islam, it clouds every judgement you make, if frazier was Muslim you would have exhaulted his praises. I have seen your page, talk about an extremist. Your one Muslim rally away from being a suicide bomber. How did the ref "SAVE" Frazier, from a knockdown maybe!! What you don't think Frazier would have got up!! He got up six times against Foreman. Get real you idiot.
XavierMarciano 3 months ago
@XavierMarciano There is NO WAY Perez heard a damn bell; like I said, Frazier, whether he liked it or not, WAS the anti-Ali, thus the white man's BOY! Suicide bomber? Ur a FOOL, who can't defend his position! Even if Frazier had gotten up, he STILL had to be protected. Now, since we're on FOREMAN, there was a pt. where he was going for the kill [again], and Mercante, inexplicably pulled him off. you can see Saddler going ballistic over that. Frazier HAD to be protected, as he was their boy.
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@XavierMarciano And by the way, you're nothing more than a white supremacist, who loves to defend his BOYS. IF Frazier was Muslim, you'd be slinging arrows at him, similar to what you're trying to do now. Furthermore, I'm ALWAYS amazed at how many people visit my page. Hell, I rarely go there myself. I don't go to yours, because you're NOT worth it. Get it? As good of a fighter Frazier was, the fact remains, he can NEVER be considered in the class of Ali, because he did NOT fight heavy hitters
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@XavierMarciano Shavers, Williams or Lyle. He ONLY had 37 fights, to Ali's 72, and then the FOOL gloats about what HE did to cause Ali's eventual and existing health conditions. So, go back and glorify your BOY! I'll keep him in proper perspective.
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@XavierMarciano
Strange,I've never heard of any household that contained a sign painter and a domestic houseworker being described as being "upper middle class".
You clearly don't have the slightest of clue of what upper middle class is do you?
tapiaassasin 3 months ago
@rocketman2442 Why? As the commentators said and WE ALL SAW IT happen, Frazier´s face was used as target practice in this fight. No excuses for Joe, he lost to a better boxer that night, not to mention the referee saved Frazier from being knocked out by Ali in the 2nd round.
vladiator100 1 year ago
The Juice He was playing then
curtismoff 1 year ago
Ali won the fight hands down!
Irishfanism 1 year ago
Ali whooped his butt...
paulstefan 1 year ago
oj just makes me laugh, i don't know why!!
deonvan 1 year ago
i kno joe won da first won ali won dis one who one da last one ?
krayziebonejr 1 year ago
@krayziebonejr ali won the 3rd
cainey66 1 year ago
Joe won this fight but referees was blind
BlackSiegesmund 1 year ago
@BlackSiegesmund What the are you talking about are you blind??Ali whipped the chump!!!!
Irishfanism 1 year ago
Stay there!
wilson0213 1 year ago
After a marathon of punches, artful dancing, Ali shuffling like a rockstar in the 12th and last round! Simply amazing. GOAT! Greatest of all time!
tomnoda3 1 year ago
Ali held illegally way to much but the ref probs didnt warn him. Considering hes an outside boxer he couldve stepped away (especially in the first few rounds when he had lots of energy) and joe fraizer lol couldve counter punched ali every time he ducked with strong hooks to the kidney or stiff jabs but besides tht i very gd fight real barnburner ;) but im probz wrong cos these guys are some of the best boxer of all time so i should probz shut up XP
1jakaroo 1 year ago
this man is damn tough man really all rocks!!!
ARIFHALAI 1 year ago
Great fight ! I enjoy watching every fight of Ali!
landreev 1 year ago
Ali's coach has nest on his head..lol
24triggerman 1 year ago 2
lol @4:32-4:38
kaussey4 1 year ago
R1 ali holds 11 times, R2 ali holds 6 times, R3 ali holds 10 times, R4 ali holds 12 times, R5 ali holds 12 times, R6 ali holds 11 times, R7 ali holds 14 times, R8 ali holds 14 times, R9 ali holds 13 times, R10 ali holds 13 times, R11 ali holds 13 times, R12 ali holds 13 times. I have checked this three times, Im not wrong. In total thats 142 illegal holds by ali, without warning, points deduction, disqualification. Its disgraceful how much ali holds, love to here what ali fans have to say on it.
XavierMarciano 1 year ago 2
@XavierMarciano
he shouldv'e been havin a point deducted. he still wouldv'e won. but in boxing just keep holding unless the ref warns u. lol
ichirima 1 year ago
@XavierMarciano ---a certain amount of holding is tolerated by the refs, even though he breaks them. Almost every fighter holds at some point. Very seldom does a fighter get penalized for holding. It was part of Ali's style when fightin a puncher, as was his style of dancing and moving around. But as howard said, they were both clearly past their primes at this point
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@XavierMarciano True, its just destroying the fight. no infighting one time..
connymat 1 year ago
@XavierMarciano oh u know how it is! ali is the greatest because he says so, so he must be. No Ali is not the greatest. he's great but overrated. howard cosell really pisses me off in this fight, just sucking Ali's arse hole. Joe clearly wins. You know i don't think Ali ever beat Frazier. and yeah the holding is discusting.
ayresy89 4 months ago
@ayresy89 I agree, totally, mate! I have a book called "The One Hundred Greatest Boxers", and the author had Ali at number one, POUND FOR POUND! Better than Ray Robinson, no less. This is the type of shit we deal with. Ali was great, but so was Frazier, and the Ali fans never forgave Joe for kicking Ali's ass in the first fight. Now nobody can suggest that Ali isn't the number one ever. My call is Joe Louis, but Ali is untouchable to many. Pisses me off, big time!
dicktiger68 4 months ago
@dicktiger68 yeah! i also put Joe Louis 1) as greatest heavyweight! i don't get it when people put any heavyweight really infront of the brown bomber.
ayresy89 4 months ago
@ayresy89 Jack Johnson was better. Maybe even Sam Langford.
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@Soulblackman I have seen two of your other comments made, and what you don't seem to understand, which shows how little you know about these two fighters and how ignorant these comments are, is that Ali was very clever and for him to call Joe an uncle tom was extremely stupid, and so one with interest, facts and an understanding for these two fighters can only conclude that Muhammad was talking nonsense, shit, to shock and build their fights up. This talk was an act, Ali confirms this himself.
ayresy89 3 months ago
@ayresy89 YET, there was a hint of bitter truth to what Ali said, which is why, to nearly the end, Frazier, wracked with a sense of inferiority and resentment, HATED Ali.
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@Soulblackman
How do you think black Philadelphia felt about own of their own in Joe Frazier openly declaring his support for Frank Rizzo? As I understand,Rizzo was a very unpopular figure among blacks within Philadelphia.
tapiaassasin 3 months ago
@tapiaassasin That's a good question. I never got any sense of that, but I would guess, because he was respected, he was given somewhat of a pass on that. Hell, Rizzo was tough with anyone in Philly; ask the white fireman who got beaten up by a cop, during Rizzo's regime. And then again, you have to wonder how black people in Philly, receive Wilson Goode, for his justifying the bombing of MOVE.
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@ayresy89
The fact that "you dont get" why somebody would place another fighter ahead of Louis in an all time heavyweight list is an clear cut evidence of how foolish and ignorant you are.If you cant see why people would place Ali,who's overall level of competition faced takes one giant dump over Louis and his resume then there really is no helping you.
tapiaassasin 3 months ago
@tapiaassasin haha you just said to me " Ali, who's overall level of competition faced takes one giant dump over Louis and his resume" shows just how ignorant you are.
ayresy89 3 months ago
@ayresy89
No,it's simply common knowledge.Louis level of competition was generally solid with the odd elite level heavyweight(walcott and schmeling) but that was it.Ali's resume speaks for it self,and the fact that he was able to beat the level of competition that he did while an obviously diminished fighter in the 70's speaks volumes of how good he was.Now explain to me why this doesnt compare to louis and why there isnt a single credible argument to be made for ali being rated over louis.
tapiaassasin 3 months ago
@tapiaassasin i love Ali. did some great things out of the ring, i'd place him at 2 or 3 as greatest heavyweight. but as far a boxing skills go i think he was a little overrated. i don't need to justify why i put louis as greater boxer than Ali, there is always going to be this argument ali or louis, louis ali. brown bomber or louisville lip, yea whatever! different eras, they are the greatest, i place Joe Louis Barrow at NO. 1 heavyweight, you might put Ali as NO.1 heavyweight end.
ayresy89 3 months ago
@ayresy89
You stated that "you dont get why" anyone would put another heavyweight in front of louis.whether you rate Louis as the greatest heavyweight isnt the issue here; it's the fact that you're so dismissive of any other fighter being placed in front of him,as if Louis was unquestionably the greatest heavyweight and that there isnt a single credible argument to be made for Ali or anybody else being placed above him.
tapiaassasin 3 months ago
@tapiaassasin Plus, until late in his career, Louis did not fight black boxers. Louis had greater power than Ali, but his slower foot speed would have put him at a great disadvantage. Just think about how Billy Conn, who would have been champ, had he not gotten careless, handled Louis.
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@ayresy89 Ali OWNED Frazier in this fight. And to his dying day, Frazier HATED the fact that Ali WHUPPED the man that WHUPPED him like a spoiled child.
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@Soulblackman Okay, and how do you know that joe hated the fact? this fight is a farse, and i think you will find if you actually watch and score this fight, joe lands alot more convincing shots to the body and head then Ali actually lands, oh and not to mention the 100 + foul holding ali does. i also think you should find, styles makes fights. joe didn't hate the fact foreman whupped him. Joe gave foreman all the credit for it. would ali give foreman another chance, oh no he wouldn't.
ayresy89 3 months ago
Ali was the clear winner - don't know what the argument was .....
AIMANALI 1 year ago
@AIMANALI --yeah, Joe didnt protest too much afterwards.
loyaldude10 1 year ago
Too be honest i like ali as much as the next guy but all he did throughout this was grapple everytime he was in the corner, he defo feared fraziers power
kyron123456789 1 year ago
oh snap its oj simpson!
2010bigleo 1 year ago
@bangitslo "Most writers and ringside observers", eh? And from where do you get that?
zapboook 1 year ago
@bangitslo Have to disagree with you big time. Frazier put on an amazing performance in the '71 fight and deserved the win. Ali won some big rounds but Frazier was just not going to be beaten that night. He was even taunting Ali and getting away with it and making Ali miss. He was busier, more aggressive, and the 15th round knockdown capped it. Considering Ali was naturally bigger, stronger, and faster, I think Frazier's performance was heroic. I love Ali, but Frazier kicked his ass in '71.
zapboook 1 year ago
@zapboook dunno about kicked his arse but yeah he did win. soem of that was clearly down down to ali beign out for 3 years and gettign older. he was no where near his prime. and i woudl say joe is stronger as whole than ali. ali was just bigger and faster
evol121 1 year ago
'Can we get some pretection PLEASE' *Guy comes running out with condoms*
JarJarAssault 1 year ago
These guys were two great champions.
GETole 1 year ago
ali's shuffle is so fast, I love it
AsianLatinoRemix 1 year ago 23
Oj killed innocent people and God retributed him.
paprichaat5 1 year ago
So how many times can one boxer hold the other one behind the head without a point deduction?
wtg2989 1 year ago 2
OJ...murder.
RomanSedlak 1 year ago
Why does the idiot OJ wiggle when he talks? What a fucking faggot.
GETole 1 year ago
@GETole
because OJ has a dick in his ass,it lets him shake and wiggle
Schehit 1 year ago
@GETole Word
Ndinogona 1 year ago
At 3:30 is the 'i' upside down?
drno62 1 year ago
Boxing lesson by Ali.
frankdrebin 2 years ago 2
hmm this was posted three months ago.. hopefully you are getting the help you need now
benballs999 2 years ago
Like usually : 3 arrows of Ali for 1 big left of Frazier.
regismo 2 years ago 2
I think it's abvious that ali was better ,, not the 'greatest ' like when he fought terrel or williams but he was good.
Buy the way SUPER VIDEO MAN ! thnx
bestlions 2 years ago 12
@bestlions He won the fight!yes,but remember, he didn't get pressured by williams or terrel like frazier did. Who know's what would have happend to Ali if he met a fighter like Frazier in '67!We'll never know really.All we know is Ali beat Quarry and Bonevena,,some people say that wasn't enough! Who the heck was he supposed to fight to prepare for Frazier!.the only way was to fight Frazier!,,and he lost! He thought he could beat him march 8th but he was wrong! Frazier was right! That's it!
pakee64 2 years ago
Yes but what I mean is that ali was in topcondition when he was younger. If he would have fought frazier in 67 he would won thats for sur !
bestlions 2 years ago
@bestlions Oh really?? Do I have your word on that?? All of these "if's" and "but's"!! "but if Ali would have fought him in "67"!!"..yea...and if frog's had wings they wouldn't bump their ass when they jumped..
pakee64 2 years ago
@pakee64 yes and IF you would be in front of me i would knock you down
bestlions 2 years ago
@bestlions I agree. I think the scoring was biased towards Frazier in both the 1st and 2nd fights. Not that I don't think Frazier won the 1st, but he didn't "dominate" like so many say he did. Ali never gets the big punches in but he is pummeling Frazier with the jab all day long.
RonnieLeeDuck 2 years ago
@bestlions Ali's fight vs. Williams can only be described as a piece of art, a flawless exhibition of boxing skill.
Paul17373 9 months ago 16
@bestlions
abvious............
xR1D1xful 5 months ago
without a doubt Muhammad Ali won this bout he hit so many punches compared to their 1st bout
silvermoonredmoon 2 years ago
THT F>CKNG sucks the ref kept pulng thm aprt evey tme they evn strted to tie up,BS! Tht is tking awy frm the flow of the fght and also tking awy from JOE and how he wld cme in close and hit body blows(thts prt of how he fghts!) Thts like if the ref pushed thm tgther every time Ali strted hitting frm the otside F.I.X.E.D,.It is a shame becse we will nver knw who wld have won tht imprtnt 2nd fight .
surfgod62 2 years ago
Ali landed ridiculously more shots than Frazier. In a number of rounds Frazier failed to land a head shot and Ali landed about 20. In terms of power punches, Ali landed a number of meaty left and right jabs, regular combinations. To me 6-4-1 by round 11 looked generous, Frazier apparently won round 3 with 1 body shot and work rate.
If the round is dead even, work rate and body shots come into it, not if one fighter has landed significantly more head shots.
cliveindia7 2 years ago
As i spent last month watching over all ALI's fights and also Joe's and Foreman's i must say Joe had one WICKED LEFT HOOK :))
Foreman is probably one of most powerful punchers ever while ALI's speed of legs, hands and brain made him GOAT
nemanjaarsic1 2 years ago
This is the first time I heard Larry Merchant´s name... I mean, the earliest time, 1974... Larry was a young guy, and coming through the ranks, and when Cosell died, he was his heir... as Lampley is Merchant´s heir...
But Merchant´s score of Ali-Frazier I was wrong. Close fight, but 8-7 Frazier.
007rocksalotmann 2 years ago
there are 2 types of fighters..."to hit and not be hit" fighter, and the "not be hit and hit" fighter. u can match it up rite, boxing has been this way since the early 20's. and it wont change, if u fight in the inside, ur jaw bettr be bouncing up and down trying to not got hit.
prebird 2 years ago
The number of punches landed is hardly an accurate criteria for the winner in professional boxing. Ali landed way more punches in the first fight but this did not change the fact Frazier's punches did more damage. Syrandon wins the all time foot in mouth award for ignorantly calling Frazier a coward, a man who got off the canvas eight times against Foreman, and had to be stopped from fighting Ali blind in the 15th in Manila. And why, Anikin, does Frazier deserve the Uncle Tom label?
sportshistorybuff 2 years ago
Sportshistorybuff...Seems to me,,any black man that works hard,,tries to get along with all the people he meets thoughout the day,,is not a racist,,follows the law's of the land,,,is certainly up for the "uncle tom" award..that's my take from my observations in my life...
pakee64 2 years ago
Largely and sadly true.
sportshistorybuff 2 years ago
i said before he cant box. he won the last cause ali wa dead for 3 years , thast alot of time for a boxer
SA2137 2 years ago
hahahha...is everyone still making excuses for that uncle tom frazier....let me give evryone the facts
Frazier - 1 win by UD Ali - 1 win by UD and 1 win by TKO......therefore ALI > frazier
anikin69 2 years ago
yeh ali landed a lot more punches FACT,thats why he won dumb dumbs
745bobman 2 years ago 21
still i think ali didnt look that strong and superieur as he was it was an even match joe with the harder punches
TonyCeylan 2 years ago
@TonyCeylan frazier barely touches ali FACT,look at how many punches ali lands
745bobman 2 years ago
yea maybe on points he won but if u look if u look at it as just a fight joe wasnt worse then ali
TonyCeylan 2 years ago
The fight was the fight. The decision was the decision. The two were not related.
MrNicespaces 2 years ago
judging the decision was interdependent with the fight, then it must be related to it.
kippister 2 years ago
Seems Ali was winning rounds on a few jabs, many of which missed, and lots of holding. Perez gave him over 100 warnings for holding behind the neck without taking a single point away. Just one of many officiating gifts he received in his career.
As an aside to that Cosell was completely clueless when it came to boxing. Poor chap didn't even know what he was watching half the time.
FlaviusConstantius 2 years ago