@mainestategop you have to take into consideration that this novel was written during a period in which it seemed likely that extremism within the right-wing could topple moderate thought. The feminist movement was still relatively young - seeing as how the sexual revolution had not quite reached it's 20th anniversary. As well, it's quite an odd thing to watch American political culture from this side of the border. Much of what your politicians do and say rattles core Canadian sensibilities
@skscharf I rememeber that time. I don't recall Jerry Falwell or Jimmy Swagart or any of the moral majority leaders advocating any curtailment in women's rights like sufferage and the like.
And you Canadians, should be more concerned about Muslims than guys like us. I mean im noteven a fundamentalist christian. Nothing I or my friends do should worry you. YOU should worry about the importation f Islamic radicals from the middle east.
@mainestategop If you had a brain then maybe you would understand that there are extremist in ALL religions and that MAYBE that is what the athor ment to portray.
@Missbiccan But looking up the information on the author we find that it is simply her acting out her leftist spite against faith. Turns out Ms Margaret Atwood is an envirowacko, a radical feminist, and marxist. Add to this an atheist. I remember a friend of mine from Minnesota spoke of her.
@Sonik117 It was a typo and this woman has a tenuous grasp on history.
She needs to do some unbiased research. The Majority of Christians supported the sufferagete movement and many of the sufferegetes were right wing.
I don't recall Phyllis Schalfly (a woman) or Pat Robertson advocating any of the dog shit that was in the book. I have female employees in MY business IN mangagement positions BTW.
@mainestategop This book is not meant to be historical, it meant to look critically at where extremism can go if it is "followed to its logical conclusions," its not meant to be a prediction. it is meant to challenge the reader into seriously considering gender expectations. There are now so many small extreme movements, such as Christian dominionism and Christian patriarchy that the book is again relevant. The presence of women managers does not nullify female oppression in society.
@samiam2088 The book was meant to smear christians and put them in the same light as Mormons and Muslims. I mean look at the USSR. They were atheist and all the good positions were taking by men. Old white men BTW.
I know of a minister who's involved in christian dominionism and they have never advocated any of that. In fact the bible condemns the whole thing with handmaids. Look what happened each time it was done like with Ishmael.
Stalinism is only atheistic in the sense that they don't believe in sky daddy. It's still extremely dogmatic and basically a religion centered around the worship of authority figures. That's called a cult of personality, that's why you have people thanking pictures of leaders for food in Stalinistic countries.
Have you ever seen the documentary by National Geographic about North Korea, in which people thanked paintings of Kim Il Sung after being healed of glaucoma, rather than the doctor? Does that sound familiar to you (substitute Kim Il Sung by Jesus)?
This book did not smear Christians. I can pick up a history book and read of far worse things that were done in the name of your God. Hell, I can pick up a Bible and just point out the horrible, depraved shit in there. You don't need fiction to smear Christians. As for putting you in the same light as Mormons and Muslims, why not? Your books have the same depraved morals and stories, your all dogmatic, you all have a pretty bloody history (maybe not Mormonism), ...
You mean true as in stoning homosexuals, killing people who approach the alter with a limp etc.? Have you read the Bible and The Quran? Really, it's not as different as you might think...
No, that proves that worshiping things and dogmatic thinking doesn't work. The problem isn't atheism or theism, it's dogmatic thinking and fundamentalism.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH That is no fallacy. One only needs to examine the bible. Jesus said in the book of matthew why we should not practice intolerance and so on. there is a difference between old and new testament.
Then you aren't doing a very good job at what you think Jesus told you, he? Judging by your profile and the way you have dedicated half of your info to hating liberalism (with a big nice middle finger)... So you aren't a true Christian then?
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH I try my best to be a christian but I am only a sinner. We all are sinners. Our churches today are more in love with money and prestige than Christ. That is why we are collapsing. We no longer pray in school, the 10 commandments are outlawed ETC. I could go on.
Then you have no leg to stand on in calling other people non-true Christians. If you are still a true Christian in spite of doing what you say the New Testament tells you not to do, than people like Ivan the Terrible are just as true of Christians. That is in essence the no true-Scotsman fallacy applied to yourself.
The 10 commandments are ridiculous anyway. There are 2 that make sense as laws, don't kill and don't steal. They are only 10 of much more numerous commandements by the way, among which are things like 'thou shalt not wear clothes of mixed fibers'. There are good reasons we don't consider those things laws.
At the end of the day, remember this, you are also an atheist on most gods. I just happen to believe in one less god then you.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH You have no problem with people cheating on other people's spouses or kids who screw with their parents or who covet other people's things or lie under oath?
And that thing about mixed fibers is an old testamnent law that no longer applies.
No, I didn't say that. I said It shouldn't be a law. I wouldn't like my girlfriend to cheat on me. I don't intend to cheat on my girlfriend. But there should not be a law against that. Cheating on anyone is wrong, but it's not a crime. As far as lying is concerned, lying isn't illegal unless it is under oath, of which the Bible mentions nothing in the Commandments. Lying under oath is a crime, a simple lie is not.
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dancthegr 2 months ago
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BaliwTaKa 2 months ago
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karlmall 3 months ago
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BaliwTaKa 2 months ago
@mainestategop you have to take into consideration that this novel was written during a period in which it seemed likely that extremism within the right-wing could topple moderate thought. The feminist movement was still relatively young - seeing as how the sexual revolution had not quite reached it's 20th anniversary. As well, it's quite an odd thing to watch American political culture from this side of the border. Much of what your politicians do and say rattles core Canadian sensibilities
skscharf 5 months ago
@skscharf I rememeber that time. I don't recall Jerry Falwell or Jimmy Swagart or any of the moral majority leaders advocating any curtailment in women's rights like sufferage and the like.
And you Canadians, should be more concerned about Muslims than guys like us. I mean im noteven a fundamentalist christian. Nothing I or my friends do should worry you. YOU should worry about the importation f Islamic radicals from the middle east.
mainestategop 4 months ago
Also the Giliad flag is freemasonic and 10:20 !!! THe mark of the beast?
This idiot who wrote the book really thinks this is what Christians want?
mainestategop 5 months ago
@mainestategop If you had a brain then maybe you would understand that there are extremist in ALL religions and that MAYBE that is what the athor ment to portray.
Missbiccan 5 months ago
@Missbiccan But looking up the information on the author we find that it is simply her acting out her leftist spite against faith. Turns out Ms Margaret Atwood is an envirowacko, a radical feminist, and marxist. Add to this an atheist. I remember a friend of mine from Minnesota spoke of her.
mainestategop 5 months ago
@mainestategop
Someone with such a tenuous grasp on grammar shouldn't call Margaret Atwood an "idiot".
Sonik117 5 months ago
@Sonik117 It was a typo and this woman has a tenuous grasp on history.
She needs to do some unbiased research. The Majority of Christians supported the sufferagete movement and many of the sufferegetes were right wing.
I don't recall Phyllis Schalfly (a woman) or Pat Robertson advocating any of the dog shit that was in the book. I have female employees in MY business IN mangagement positions BTW.
mainestategop 5 months ago
@mainestategop This book is not meant to be historical, it meant to look critically at where extremism can go if it is "followed to its logical conclusions," its not meant to be a prediction. it is meant to challenge the reader into seriously considering gender expectations. There are now so many small extreme movements, such as Christian dominionism and Christian patriarchy that the book is again relevant. The presence of women managers does not nullify female oppression in society.
samiam2088 4 months ago
@samiam2088 The book was meant to smear christians and put them in the same light as Mormons and Muslims. I mean look at the USSR. They were atheist and all the good positions were taking by men. Old white men BTW.
I know of a minister who's involved in christian dominionism and they have never advocated any of that. In fact the bible condemns the whole thing with handmaids. Look what happened each time it was done like with Ishmael.
mainestategop 4 months ago
@mainestategop
Stalinism is only atheistic in the sense that they don't believe in sky daddy. It's still extremely dogmatic and basically a religion centered around the worship of authority figures. That's called a cult of personality, that's why you have people thanking pictures of leaders for food in Stalinistic countries.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@mainestategop
Have you ever seen the documentary by National Geographic about North Korea, in which people thanked paintings of Kim Il Sung after being healed of glaucoma, rather than the doctor? Does that sound familiar to you (substitute Kim Il Sung by Jesus)?
Stalinism is a religion.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@mainestategop
This book did not smear Christians. I can pick up a history book and read of far worse things that were done in the name of your God. Hell, I can pick up a Bible and just point out the horrible, depraved shit in there. You don't need fiction to smear Christians. As for putting you in the same light as Mormons and Muslims, why not? Your books have the same depraved morals and stories, your all dogmatic, you all have a pretty bloody history (maybe not Mormonism), ...
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Far worse things? True christianity is as close to moromonism and Islam as Geneva is to Mecca and Great salt lake!
mainestategop 4 months ago
@mainestategop
You mean true as in stoning homosexuals, killing people who approach the alter with a limp etc.? Have you read the Bible and The Quran? Really, it's not as different as you might think...
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Firsst of all, all that was old testament law. It no longer applies. Quran and book of mormon are two different faiths entirely.
mainestategop 4 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH It just proves atheism doesn't work. We all worship something. In N Korea and under Stalin, it was the state.
mainestategop 4 months ago
@mainestategop
No, that proves that worshiping things and dogmatic thinking doesn't work. The problem isn't atheism or theism, it's dogmatic thinking and fundamentalism.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@mainestategop
True Christianity? Maybe you should look up the 'no true Scotsman'-fallacy, and realize why it's a fallacy before continuing this discussion.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH That is no fallacy. One only needs to examine the bible. Jesus said in the book of matthew why we should not practice intolerance and so on. there is a difference between old and new testament.
mainestategop 4 months ago
@mainestategop
Then you aren't doing a very good job at what you think Jesus told you, he? Judging by your profile and the way you have dedicated half of your info to hating liberalism (with a big nice middle finger)... So you aren't a true Christian then?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH I try my best to be a christian but I am only a sinner. We all are sinners. Our churches today are more in love with money and prestige than Christ. That is why we are collapsing. We no longer pray in school, the 10 commandments are outlawed ETC. I could go on.
mainestategop 4 months ago
@mainestategop
Then you have no leg to stand on in calling other people non-true Christians. If you are still a true Christian in spite of doing what you say the New Testament tells you not to do, than people like Ivan the Terrible are just as true of Christians. That is in essence the no true-Scotsman fallacy applied to yourself.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@mainestategop
The 10 commandments are ridiculous anyway. There are 2 that make sense as laws, don't kill and don't steal. They are only 10 of much more numerous commandements by the way, among which are things like 'thou shalt not wear clothes of mixed fibers'. There are good reasons we don't consider those things laws.
At the end of the day, remember this, you are also an atheist on most gods. I just happen to believe in one less god then you.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH You have no problem with people cheating on other people's spouses or kids who screw with their parents or who covet other people's things or lie under oath?
And that thing about mixed fibers is an old testamnent law that no longer applies.
mainestategop 4 months ago
@mainestategop
No, I didn't say that. I said It shouldn't be a law. I wouldn't like my girlfriend to cheat on me. I don't intend to cheat on my girlfriend. But there should not be a law against that. Cheating on anyone is wrong, but it's not a crime. As far as lying is concerned, lying isn't illegal unless it is under oath, of which the Bible mentions nothing in the Commandments. Lying under oath is a crime, a simple lie is not.
So who picks what stuff applies and not?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
I've read about the novel and the movie in the wikipedai archive.
This has more bearing on an islamic dictatorship than aChristian theocracy.
mainestategop 5 months ago
I mean 1169
adely22 5 months ago
What 1689
adely22 5 months ago
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equilibrium0994 6 months ago
@equilibrium0994
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karlmall 2 months ago
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this is the reason why christian fundamentalist needs to be wiped out
hamster700 8 months ago