Bernard-Henri Lévy v. Abdel al-Bari Atwan on Libya intervention

[melfandi]

i listened very carefully to both of them , my opinion is that what Mr Henry mentioned is correct , and the argument of Mr. Atwan failed , If we wait for the Arab to save Bengazi at the time when Gaddafi troops were knocking the doors of the city , there were no time to hesitate or second thoughts , the only power in the world which can make a very quick action is the western countries , the arabs will need months to prepare for this kind of action .

[19781978hk]

@melfandi I agree with you completly.

[Fezzel93]

Why do we look and treat people based on their religion and not based on their humanity?

[rosenkreutzer]

@MasjidABakrNorrk No racism on this page please.

[TheAztecConquistadoo]

BERNARD LEVY is THE HYPOCRITE.

[MrPouyakhanuk]

i am sorry you delete my post its ok what you are saying is that Palestine that occupies Israel yo grow up and accept the truth.

EU and USA are destroying middleast and asia.

[rosenkreutzer]

@MrPouyakhanuk What I am saying is do not swear, respect your opponents and use reasoned argument. Passion is fine, but even if you are angry you should treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. As for my own views on Palestine, I have great sympathy for the plight of the Palestinian people.

[MrPouyakhanuk]

@rosenkreutzer ok i underestand You are right.

[rosenkreutzer]

@MrPouyakhanuk thanks, salaam

[rosenkreutzer]

@MrPouyakhanuk Stop behaving like a child and try reasoned argument.

[rosenkreutzer]

@MrLads13 I only delete posts that contravene youtube policy, hence I have deleted your own as it contains anti-gay hate speech. This page is a forum for reasoned argument, not for burdening the world with your anger management issues... why not post again, but substitute the emotive diatribes with factual evidence? As this is a complex issue that shouldn't be too hard, but make sure your comments show respect for your brother and sisters in the human family.

[SheilaWonderland]

A philosopher who’s never taught the subject in any university,

a journalist who creates a cocktail mingling the true, the possible, and the totally false, a patch-work filmmaker, a writer without a real literary oeuvre,

he is the icon of a media-driven society in which simple appearance weighs more than the substance of things.

BHL is thus first and foremost a great communicator, the PR man of the only product he really knows how to sell: himself.

[rosenkreutzer]

@TobnaSpahi I believe the word you are looking for is "Untermensch", and you should consider carefully how well it applies to anti-Semites and others who spread a sub-human hatred on the basis of race, religion or ethnicity

[rosenkreutzer]

Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah, brother, and may God guide us all to the paths of wisdom

[daraghma100]

@rosenkreutzer

Peace be upon every single human in this universe, may the evilness disappear forever insha'Allah. Believe me, despite all the differences and backgrounds of religions, ethnicities and races, nothing makes me extremely glad than seeing every single human being in this world happy, comfortable and pleased as we all came from Adam and Eve and we are all brothers in humanity. Salam alikum brother :)

[daraghma100]

@rosenkreutzer

"We all have evil within us, daraghma100, or at least the potential for it".

In general, I totally agree with these words 100% ,but the significant difference is that I worship Allah the only God of this whole universe and I can pretty much assure to you that I control the evil inside me almost in every single situation I go through in this non-lasting life as worshiping my Lord Almighty helps to do so. Huge difference, isn't it ? ;)

[rosenkreutzer]

@daraghma100 I'm very glad to hear that, daraghma100 - peace be upon you.

[daraghma100]

@rosenkreutzer

Again mark my words carefully, "The greatest triumph of Satan over the human intellectual is that Satan succeeded in convincing the brains of some human beings that his presence is a delusion and not an absolute certainty".

[daraghma100]

@rosenkreutzer says:

@daraghma100 Threatening war and using hate speech ("Zionist criminals and liars") to describe civilians is unacceptable behaviour, daraghma100. Mark my words carefully - we must defeat the devil within us before we can fight the devil outside. Salaam/Shalom...

I'm not evil I dare u to bring back the comments I wrote before u delete them if u were honest as you claim, you even state Zionists as " civilians" well, what about 800 civilians of women and kids in Gaza war 2008?

[rosenkreutzer]

@daraghma100 We all have evil within us, daraghma100, or at least the potential for it. You are no more or less evil than I am. :)

[daraghma100]

@rosenkreutzer

You removed most of my comments even the ones that has no insults at all, no wonder you have some hidden agendas here, regards to your masters of the New Middle East and New World Order for their extreme failures in the near future. Peace be upon good people of this world who only deserve it, but not for the servants of Satan the Antichrist.

[rosenkreutzer]

@daraghma100 Threatening war and using hate speech ("Zionist criminals and liars") to describe civilians is unacceptable behaviour, daraghma100. Mark my words carefully - we must defeat the devil within us before we can fight the devil outside. Salaam/Shalom...

[MrLads13]

@rosenkreutzer , but zionists are criminals and liars. Can you name me one that isn't? Just one. YOu can't cuz there aren;'t any. Why even bother posting videos if you can't even tell the truth between good and evil. Truth or lie. Nothing else matters. There's no grey area as you seem to want to make everything. Dharma is right & he's only replying to those who are posting lies or exaggerations. Its people posting obvious lies you should delete.

[daraghma100]

Mr. rosenkreutzer, I didn't threat others, I don't beg people to believe my opinions and If you're gonna delete my comments which shows the ultimate truth about Palestine, then that's really biased and serving Israhell which wasn't even known to the whole world before the occupation of Palestine in 1948th and 1967th. I already have a side to stick for, If you kept playing on both sides it's your free choice and I'm not gonna force you to change it ever; just don't try to change facts, salam.

[rosenkreutzer]

Feel free to express your opinion, daraghma100, but threatening or abusive language will not be tolerated here (that's why your last posts were removed).

[daraghma100]

@The1Kidneythief

As for the Masonic scheme of creating a New Middle East, starting with Iraq, Afghanistan, Tunisia,Libya,....etc, lemme tell you something pal. Tell Bernard Henri Levi to read history carefully before trying to divide the Arab and Islamic world; we are the nation of prophet Mohammed(PBUH), Kahlid Bin Al-Walid the sword of Allah, Saladin the lion of Islam; this nation will survive until the day of judgment and Aqsa mosque will be restored insha'Allah, we see it coming already :).

[daraghma100]

@The1Kidneythief

Apparently you are the total nutcase arrogant Zionist, what's called Israel was created by massacring the people of Palestine by the Zionist gangs of Argon, Stern and other Zionist butchers; Zionists even butchered the British forces mandating Palestine at that time. Hamas could never abort elections, I'm a Palestinian; I know most people here elected Hamas because they were disappointed with Fatah concessions. Hamas took power in 2007 after the elections results.

[hchattington]

@daraghma100 Stop pointing the finger at others and look at yourself, "pal" - during the British Mandate your Grand Mufti recruited for the Waffen-SS and tried to poison the people of Tel Aviv en masse. Forget the conspiracy theories, you are the problem just as much as the 'other side'...

[The1Kidneythief]

Abel is a total nutcase, its a whole different situation. The Israeli government is a democratically elected government, who accepts freedom of press. The Hamas regime has aborted elections! There has been no elections Since they took power in 2005, they have also tortured political opponents and there is no freedom of press in Gaza. Just because the Hamas regime was democratically elected, obviously it dosent mean that they want to preserve democracy.

[hchattington]

venceremos

[3379ify]

Bonjour Mr Levy.

Vous qui combattez les injustices de ce monde...

Dites moi pourquoi???.... vous ne parlez jamais du Français SALAH HAMOURI....

Ce jeune homme est emprisonné et torturé en Israël depuis des Années.

Il est vrai qu'il n'est président du FMI. Mais Je pensais que vous.... et la république française s'occupait de ses ressortissants....

SALAH HAMOURI a juste critiqué La constitution Israélienne.

Une constitution qui est basée sur le vol de la terre....

[lokalllize]

that hair 

[jonanini1]

POOR Libyans !!

They have listened to the WHISPERERS they have to be ready to pay the PRICE with their BLOOD and their OIL !

AGAIN the same faces BHL like in DARFOUR .they will give you just enough bullet to be killed so that they can justify taking over your souverainty!

The actors are always the same just the context changes(RWANDA, DR CONGO,IVORY COST, LIBYA, LIBERIA, SIERRA LEONE, SOUDAN, BURUNDI....) +- 12.000.000 DEADS in AFRICA and yet we STILL BELEIVE THEM, the WHISPERERS !!!

[hchattington]

@jonanini1 The problem isn't that Africans listen to foreign "WHISPERERS", it's that they listen to macho men and demagogues from their own countries. African support for Gaddafi is shameful!

[jonanini1]

@hchattington WHO ARE THE DEMAGOGUES? THOSE WHO HAVE MASSACRED AND ENSLAVED EVERY SINGLE NATION ON THIS PLANET? DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT WE BELEIVE EUROPEANS ARE HONEST? TELL ME ONE SINGLE ALLY OF WESTERNERS IN AFRICA WHERE LIFE IS BETTER THAN IN LIBYA. THE PROBLEM WITH YOU IS YOUR MONOLOGUE , YOU GOT CONVINCED OF YOUR OWN LIES.

WHAT HAPPENED IN IRAK?? DID YOU FORGET ? WE DID NOT. YOU COME TO LIBYA WE WILL FIGHT YOU ! NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. CRIMINALS. DID KADAFI KILL MORE THAN G W BUSH ?

[rosenkreutzer]

@jonanini1 Watch the caps Jonanini - you don't need to shout to get your message across. Just lower case, NOT CAPITAL LETTERS ALL THE TIME

[hchattington]

@jonanini1 We Europeans brought good things and bad things to Africa, jonanini - stop playing the victim. And even here in Europe we have had to fight for our freedom of expression and association (remember Hitler?). We're not so different from you. So why are you supporting a man (Gaddafi) who shoots his own people when they demonstrate peacefully for their rights? You should stop shouting and getting so angry just because someone has a different opinion. It is better to disagree peacefully.

[jonanini1]

@hchattington It is obvious that this so called rebellion is fake. I am not play the victim i just don't want to see MORE victims in Africa if you can give your email address i'll send you pictures of what the French army just did in Ivory Cost in a complete silence because lives of Blacks is not worthy.

If you say i play the victim and that's bad then Jews have to thank NAZIS for helping them to have now a state.

I'm from Congo and a similar revolution just caused 5 millions lives No one Care.

[hchattington]

@jonanini1

1. I trained soldiers for the EUFOR RD Congo mission. It cost us $428 million to secure elections in your country - don't tell me Europeans don't care.

2. You say the Libyan rebellion is "fake"? Type "unarmed protesters libya" into youtube.

3. Is there any African dictator you don't like? The UN and even the AU were against Gbagbo, not just the French.

4. History proves the Jews can't rely upon others for their security. This is not playing the victim, it is taking control of destiny.

[jonanini1]

@hchattington

1. $428 million will never replace 4.5 million lives we have lost or confort 200-400 thousand raped women.

2. Election that brought to power your poppet that have participated in the killing of 250-400 thousands refugees in Ubundu, Tingi-tingi, Mbandaka (UN Report)

3.AU is a club of dictators any African will tell you that.(That's why they don't like Gbagbo and Kadafi)

4. Israel can't exist without USA or EU support.

[jonanini1]

@hchattington

1. During this period of instability $35 billion in Minerals were smuggled out of Congo by western corporations (Anglo gold ashanty)

2. While Congo was under arms embargo weapons were brought to rebels in the very same cargo that was bringing supplies to the UN Blue helmets. we see the same in Libya the UN calling for War , allowing EU and USA to train rebels.Kadafi has accepted not less than 3 cease fires and Rebels? 0.

WAR NEVER GIVE BIRTH TO A BEATIFUL BABY !

[jonanini1]

@hchattington

The problem with you westerners is that you are A DICTATORSHIP in a bigger scale.

The very same way dictators are in their last days of reign disconnected from the people.

You are also living your last days , you are stuck in your praise of your ego you don't LISTEN.

You will be going war after war until you consume all your resources and we will be there to give the final blow.

OUT of Africa , OUT of LIBYA!

[hchattington]

@jonanini1 You have to deal with the world as it is, not as it should be, jonanini. Anyway, good luck and see you at Armageddon... ; )

[jonanini1]

@hchattington

1.The world as it is means african being killed. Europeans getting rich.

As you said see you at Armagedon.

[congeliz]

Bernard-Henri Levy est un opportuniste défendant les intérêts d'Israël avant tout. Qu'il arrête de dire que la situation était urgente et qu'il fallait absolument agir pour sauver "ses frères libyens", qu'il arrête... La situation à Gaza n'était-elle pas aussi URGENTE quand des hommes, des femmes, des enfants, des nourrissons étaient tués par balles?! Je ne parle pas du Hamas, je parle bien de vies humaines... Pourquoi n'avait-il pas eu cette même compassion pour les Palestiniens?

[hchattington]

@congeliz The two situations are very different. In Gaza Hamas fired thousands of rockets, killing and maiming civilian men, women and children; Israel responded with strikes against weapon depots situated in civilian areas. Perhaps that response was disproportionate and counter-productive, but the intention of Hamas was to murder Jews, pure and simple. In Libya peaceful civilian protests against a dictatorship were met with massacres, and BHL makes a good point - we cannot look the other way.

[54lakhdar]

contre les musulmans qui veulent l`application de leurs chariaa et merci

[54lakhdar]

le probleme avec des gens comme BHL c`est qu`il est toujours contre le hamas , meme apres avoir ete elu democratiquement par le peuple ??

ce qui nous rappel son soutien au soit disant democratique algeriens qui ce sont dresser contre le fis qui venait d`etre elu democratiquement par le peule !

il refait le meme geste pour la demolitions de la vraie democratie la vraie liberte dans les pays musulmans et je rappel a tout le monde que celui ci n`a jamais cacher son anti attitude contre

[54lakhdar]

le mensonge trouve chemin par la voie des philosophe , comme c`est le cas ici !

avec bernard henri levy qui est pro sioniste , et qui ne cesse de proclamer son total

soutien pour israel !