Christianity and Euclidian Geometry

[anonymolol]

white isn't a color.  maybe that's the problem.

[Cimbolic]

Yes, that could be it !

[anonymolol]

also as lorezapocalypse said, you can create images easily in photoshop of say, a matte white square on top of whatever picture you want and be able to set the alpha to whatever level of transparency you like.

so really whatever that dude was saying in his book doesnt pass the fact test. i mean i'm sure that there are limitations on our visual imagination, but "transparent white" is both imaginable and easily created

but otherwise, as a mathematician myself, i enjoy your math thought process

[Cimbolic]

It's going to be a good mental exercise. I"ll gradually decrease the alpha as I visualize translucent white, till I arrive at transparent.

Glad you like the thought process, anonymolol.

[spuzzdawg]

@anonymolol This method only allows you to see view a more opaque version of the colour below. Transparent white can't be imagined because it's a nonsense concept. You are essentially trying to imagine the effect a filter with no filter-like properties has on colour. It's about as profound as asking someone to imagine something they can't imagine.

[lorezapocalypse]

Can't imagine a transparent white? That got a big huh? on my part. I can, either I do not understand what you mean by transparent white, or, um, I do not understand what you mean by transparent white.

I mean you can create a white transparency in Photoshop real easy...

[Cimbolic]

For a think to be transparent, you must be able to look through it and see what is on the other side with no loss of clarity.

Some things are tranlucent. Translucense is different. Translucent things let some light through, but not a clear image.

[lorezapocalypse]

It seems like then by its definition transparent does not have a color. I think you said something about being able to see green transparent, how exactly?

[Cimbolic]

Transparent is a quality, rather than a color.

If I look through a transparent green glass, I can see an object that is on the other side of the glass with no loss of clarity. It will look green, of course, but it's image is sharp.

But this won't work with White glass. The image always suffers some sort of degradation.

[brainouty]

Christians have as much trouble with the 'math' of God as atheists do. Took me a long time to figure out why. And it's in our semantics. We call God "Infinite", but that's a spatial term. A better term is "Absolute". Absoluteness is qualitative. Dimensionless. Conceptual. Immaterial. Thus would be in every 'dot', yet occupying no space.

So now we need an "equation of God". But "equation" only means finity, however interminable. So at best we'd find an "equation reflecting God".

[Cimbolic]

I agree with you, you brilliant ornery person :).

[8elhaj]

i agree with u, it actually confirm the idea in Islam that the human brain and conception is limited and like it was said in the QURAN: GOD is not like anything you can imagine.

amazing!

[Cimbolic]

That's the perfect verse for the video!

[leporidus]

Transparent white? I see backlit frosted glass.

[Cimbolic]

I wonder which is more beautiful.

[leporidus]

I'd go with transparent white being more beautiful. It's a concept and thus has a certain abstract perfection to it, which any kind of real-world thing never can. Except ice sculptures and sugar cones. Mmmh, sugar. (o:

Good point about the fractal nature of possible mappings to lower-dimensional manifolds and the information loss you get from the "usual" mappings (pentachoron to triangle, tesseract to square etc). The Banach-Tarski paradox coms into mind as well...

[Cimbolic]

I agree with you re transparent while being more beautiful and for the reason your point out.

Here's a great quotation attributed to Pythagoras:

"Mathematics is the only form of truth that is above human prejudice".

[leporidus]

That's a beautiful quote. And thank you for subscribing, Cimbolic! Unfortunately, I suck at making videos of my own. {-:

[Cimbolic]

Likewise!

[snow3585]

thanks for the vid my friend

[Cimbolic]

Likewise, Snow. I enjoy your videos very much.

[CelphaFiael]

As for disciplines of math that give better understanding of this problem, how about topology? I suppose that this perhaps coupled with density could allow us to more easily imagine this god man. (I chose the word imagine carefully ^_^)

[Cimbolic]

Very interesting thought, Celpha. It is interesting that some religions discourage visual representations of the divine. Perhaps because if we cannot visualize transparent white what hope have we of visualizing the divine? We are bound to be wrong.