A Dorian to D Dorian - Backing Track Play Along (DP's Backing Tracks Series)

[cbpk1996]

i just moved between A dorian and C lydian .Sounded pretty good

[skwizzgar]

@cbpk1996 a dorian and c lydian are the exact same thing lmao

[00TheGuitarMan00]

@skwizzgar They share the same notes, but they are not the same thing.

[ShredableGuitar]

They're not. :)

[IzzySpint]

@skwizzgar Same notes. Not the same thing.

[AXELGRIZ]

@cbpk1996 thats becuase hey have the same notes, but should be treated differently : ).

[TomRolfeplaysguitar]

really nice, helping me alot to get to grips with the dorian mode thanks

[SpeedPickers]

@BDagys Are you sure you're using the proper scale ? The mood is set by the backing track,not by your scale usage...you only define different melodies with different scale usage and different rhythm phrasing...try to end your phrases on chord tones to be sure to land on "right" notes (1,b3,5,b7 for Dorian)

[BDagys]

@SpeedPickers Hey, thanks a lot for your reply. Yes, I understand that it's based on the backing track, therefore for this track I'd alternate between the G and C major scales (correct?) If I'm playing the right scales over the backing tracks, is it just a matter of my phrasing and not hitting chord tones then?

Thanks!

[SpeedPickers]

@BDagys correct (scale usage),but bear in mind that phrsing is a subject extremely complex and nobody can explain it in few words (there are millions of books about this topic),but is very useful, as a starting point,to start and end your phrases with chord tones,because they relate better to the undelying chords

[BDagys]

@SpeedPickers Okay, but over this track for example, if I play the G and C major scales (respectively) each four bars I'm doing the right thing though, correct?

[SpeedPickers]

@BDagys correct...but after some weeks or months practicing,try to use for example Am9 arpeggios over A Dorian and Dm9 arpeggios over D Dorian,and also can try A Minor pentatonic and D Minor pentatonic...

[BDagys]

@SpeedPickers For sure, I'm just really trying to understand modes right now...one last question

Lets say I have a G maj progression (G C Em D)

Over the progression I can use G Ionian, are there any other modes I can use over top of the entire progression (forgetting pentatonics and such just right now)

And over the individual chords... for say G, do I have the option to play Ionian, Lydian, OR mixolydian over it (as they're all major modes? aka its just based on preference?)

[SpeedPickers]

@BDagys over this progression you write,that's strictly major,you can use ony Ionian/Major scale or any subfamily (major pentatonic,major arpeggios,major 7th arps) not different modes,is not a way of your preferences,but the harmony set the mode...over the single chords youre better using arpeggios if you want to enhance the color of the single chords...

[BDagys]

@SpeedPickers Okay thanks, I'm almost there. As I understand there is only one mode to use over any chord progression, and that's based on the structure of the progression (eg. ii - V - vi is a dorian progression, I'd play dorian ontop)

But what I'm mostly interested (and that's great advice about arpeggios) is soloing over each chord. If I want to play a different mode over each chord in a progression, how do I know what to use? I know this isnt best always, but I still want to know in case :)

[SpeedPickers]

@BDagys the subsject is too complex:I suggest you to buy "Frank Gambale Techniques book 1 and 2" that can help you for many years to come !!

[BDagys]

@SpeedPickers Okay thanks for all the help. I got all of Frank Gambales stuff and will look at it. Thanks again!

[SpeedPickers]

@BDagys thank you...and keep practicing with my backing tracks (there are more than 200 now in my channel)....

[kaoD]

@BDagys it might not be the right way to do it, but I just try to match alterations from the chord to the suitable mode.

e.g. C Maj7#11, see how #11 is the same as #4 and the 7th grade is major so the C Lydian (C Major with a raised fourth) mode should fit. E7 is the same as E Major with a Dominanth 7th, so E Mixolydian (flat 7th) would do the job.

I'd appreciate any corrections, because I've been self teaching myself music theory and it might be wrong.

[BDagys]

@kaoD Okay but is there a way in general to know? Or just looking at the alterations?

Two examples...

G C Em D (G Ionian)

I know it's Ionian but are there any other ways to know what modes you can use other than just G Ionian, C Ionian, E Aeolian (might be wrong), D Ionian?

Second example...

Am C D G (A Dorian)

What modes can I use over the individual chords? I know that over the whole progression I can use A Dorian.

Thank you.

[BDagys]

@SpeedPickers and over the Em, which modes could I use? as you can see I just want a way to know which modes to use and when, then I can work on my use of chord tones, phrasing, etc.

[SpeedPickers]

@BDagys still using G major (or E natural minor/aeolian,that's the same scale)