ObamaCare 101: What the Healthcare Law Means to You Part 2 of 3

[IAMTHATIAMONEable]

Check ou the bill under medical device around 100-1007. Mass chipping 2014-2017. REVELATION MY KING LORD, GOD JESUS CHRIST SAID there will be days like this MY KING GOD AND LORD JESUS CHRIST SAID!

[IAMTHATIAMONEable]

And the obama care health bill requores all American to get chiped "Rfid health care bill" by 2014-2017. If you don't get the chipyou will not get any health care from any medical insurance If you don't get the chip I read the bill no bull!

[funkateerkitty]

All I have to say is too much law, too much government is an infringement and an oppression to freedom. We have the Right to have PRIVACY. Remember this one.

[MrProgaDelic]

Don't forget that the Canadian health care's creator, Claude Castonguay, wants to open up more private clinics because it's in "crisis"

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 My government provides my health care, but my life is not "controlled", my rights are not infringed upon. You are crazy. And this video is completely out-of-this-world crazy. Um, the government is not going to send a social worker to your home or become more controlling any way, if they start providing health care. That doesn't even make any sense!!!!!!! Go eff your yanky self biatch. LOL You spew the exact kind of crap I would expect from some idiot who listens to Bush.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 People voted for Obama knowing from his platform that this was what he was going to do if elected, so it is democratic. Idiot.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 Go sleep with Bush. Providing universal health care is like nazism? Go get your head checked cowboy. :D This is why Canadians are smarter, friggin dumbass. Providing health care is the same thing as committing a genocide??? You're a laughable idiot!

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 You lost me when you continued to say that everyone who is in need of universal health care is a "lazy ass." I won't have a conversation with some who refers to poor people that way. A person can be poor for all kinds of reasons, including disability, or being too young or too old to work full-time, not all poor people should be blamed for their situation. I won't waste my time trying to reason with someone who is ok with poor people dying because of not receiving health care.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 Bottom line, there are real enemies in this world and health care reform is NOT one of them and I was offended by how this video tries to compare government health care to communism, totalitarianism and Nazism. If you don’t like that, you can kiss my a**.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 It’s funny that you will probably continue in the next term to have a democratic president, even though you obviously hate it, too bad for you. You just showed how ignorant some Americans can be. Great job. :D

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 I’m aware that I pay for my health care through taxes, I already said that, but you have trouble listening. All I said was that it’s a better system because you pay into the system during stages of life when you are financially able to and you can still receive health care at stages of life when you are unable to afford health care.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 I heard a story about a black man in the U.S. who died because his health insurance company who he had paid into for years, refused to fund surgery for his kidney cancer, because they said the treatment was “too experimental”, even though his doctor said the surgery had an 80% chance of saving his life. I guess you think that people like him deserve to die, even though he had a wife and kids??? What if that person were you? Then you’d expect people to care about this issue. Ha!

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 Obama had a right to say that health insurance companies should not legally be allowed to do that. But I guess many people like you are unable and unwilling to see the unfairness of a situation until they find themselves in it and then it is too late.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 If you or your family member needed to receive health care from your insurance company and they denied your claim for a bogus reason, as they have with many Americans, your tune would quickly change on the issue of some of the reforms that have been made.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 That is not democratic socialist at all, when a company is still the one in charge and making profits. Therefore, to say that American’s will be paying the same amount of taxes as Europeans is inaccurate.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 In your second last comment you compare the U.S. health care system to England’s universal government health care. Are you too dumb to realize that those are 2 different things? England’s universal health care was like Canada’s, paid for by the government. America’s is still going to be basically a capitalist system, because the health insurance companies are still going to make a profit!

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 Your constitution says that you have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I guess impoverished Americans don’t have the ‘right to life’ since they are not given life-saving health care in some cases… That’s not “constitutional.”

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 So you believe that if the government provides a service then that a form of control of the population? Then the government is being controlling by providing public schools and roads?? That makes no sense. There is a need and a logic for some things in life, necessities that all citizens of a country need, to be collectively paid for, it just makes sense and the country as a whole benefits.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 At least my government will not “control” me by letting me die by not providing me health care, like your government gladly would if you were among the poorest Americans. Please don’t tell me you believe what the fellow in this clip says that federal health care is comparable to Nazi Germany and such??? Don’t be brainwashed. Ask yourself if that makes any sense. lol

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 So, it’s “controlling” that my government provides free health care to me??? I literally laughed out loud at that comment! That makes no sense at all, but you are not the first conservative American who I have heard this idea from. lol What does “control my personal life” mean? Yes, I have to pay taxes that are higher than an American’s taxes. Other than that I can’t think of how this system is controlling to a Canadian.???? 

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 I guess you’re too afraid to actually answer my question about how I would manage to receive health insurance in the U.S.A. when I already have a pre-existing health issue before applying. You don’t want to admit the truth, that I would basically be screwed if I moved there, because then it’s harder for you to hold up your ideas as perfect. Ha, answer the question coward!

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 I never said that “freeloading” was a way of life to be encouraged. I said that I agree with a capitalistic system, but that health care is the exception to the rule because it affects matters of life and death. I guess you like to hear your own voice more than actually listen…

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 Actually everybody in Canada WORKS to pay for the health care system too. You have to work and earn money in order to be taxed on it. It’s just the idea of putting all of our money in a shared pot, for the purpose of health care, because unlike other goods and services that one should have to earn, EVERYBODY deserves health care.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

You’re honestly saying that Canadians are controlled by their government? Coming from the country where George Bush listened in on thousands of your phone calls??? Ha! A little bit of the pot calling the kettle black I see. 

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 To say that one is ‘lazy’ just because one can’t afford the more expensive types of medical care is just inaccurate. Many people work hard at their job but do not make enough to pay for the health care of their family, especially if they have a serious disease or an accident, that hardly makes them a “welfare bum.” Get real.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

So, you would rather die than receive help from the government? That’s a little proud! Would that still be true if your child was dying and needed an expensive surgery to save his/her life that you could not afford? This statement is just silly. Health care, especially for serious illnesses and injuries, is VERY expensive, even to many lower-middle class hard working people!

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 FYI, I never said that what Obama is doing is great either, because this system is still going to be making health care into a capitalist commodity, which is not in the best interest of the patient, try listening, but I guess that’s too much to ask.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

Don’t talk about “American Christians” because the Bible is FULL of instructions for Christians to help the poor. Somehow I don’t believe that denying poor people health care and the right to stay alive is obeying that commandment!

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 But by your comments about “welfare bums” I guess you believe that poor people DO deserve to die. I can’t talk reason into somebody like that. Have a nice life. And may uncompassionate people like you stay out of American politics, Lord willing.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@Mr545432 You said that “If everything is AlWAYS handed to us. We will go bankrupt.” Um, did I say that citizens of either Canada or the U.S. should have “everything” handed to them? I said that health care, which literally determines matters of life and death, should not be denied even to poor people. 

[TEARDUCTER]

Sounds to me like a barbarian society. I still think I would rather take my chances in the jungle at least it would not be as depressing as this.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

you completely lost me when you started comparing government run health care to the ability to commit genocide. PLEASE! This sounds like propaganda!!!! The real genocide in the U.S. was allowing the poor people to die from a lack of health care!!!

[valeriethekkumbruff]

i live in Canada and love my FREE health care, so i disagree with this video. i think the U.S. should become like Canada and have absolutely free health care. (Canadians have a long life expectancy as a result of free healthcare.)

[thirst953]

@valeriethekkumbruff nothing is free. The universal health care that you enjoy comes at a steep price. The price is paid in tax dollars and physician shortages due to the increase in patients and the decrease in pay. This physician shortage is causing long waiting lists to be treated. So tell me What good is universal health care if you cannot be treated in a timely manner.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 um, so you're saying that if a system in Canada is mostly good, but has some problems in it, the whole system should be thrown in the garbage? That makes no sense. And no, I do not find that physician shortages effect my ability to get health care at all in the part of Canada that I live in.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 (I live in southern Ontario. And I do access the free health care system often because I have rheumatoid arthritis. I see a family doctor, a lung specialist for asthma and a rheumatologist as often as I need to. And when I have an asthma attack or other problem that requires me to visit the ER I don't have to worry about my ability to pay. (Although Canadians do still have to pay $80 for the ambulance ride.)

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 I haven’t experienced these ridiculously long wait times that you speak of, but I guess you think you know more about the Canadian healthcare system than someone who lives in Canada. At least in Canada health care decisions are made by the doctor based what is best for the patient, not like in America where the decision is often based on the patient’s ability to pay or based on the willingness of the insurance company to approve a treatment.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 The life expectancy in Canada is an average of 3 years longer than one’s life expectancy in the U.S. mostly because our health care system is better. Because poor people in the United States fail to seek health care because they can’t afford it and the government won’t pay for it. A federally funded health care system is the solution to this problem!

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 Yes, the wait time for SOME specialist doctors in Canada needs to be reduced and Canada is working to fix this problem. That doesn’t mean that the idea of a federally funded universal health care system should be thrown out.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 At least I can walk into a walk in clinic right now for FREE and get help. And I have no monthly health insurance bill like Americans have to pay. If you were poor and couldn’t afford to pay for your health care out of pocket or couldn’t afford to pay for health insurance, or like many, couldn’t get approved for health insurance, you wouldn’t say what you are saying that America’s health care system is just fine and should be left alone.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 It's a system like America's that leaves many impoverished citizens of the United States completely without any healthcare that needs to be thrown in the trash. I would honestly be scared if I lived in the United States, because for one thing, I wouldn't be able to get health coverage with all of their rules about not being approved for coverage because you already have a pre-existing health problem.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 What would become of me in the U.S. ? Pay for health care out of my own pocket? Even though I don't have the money? I'll take a Canadian free health care system, albeit with some small kinks that need to be worked out, over an American health care system that leaves many of it's poorest citizens to die, any day!

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 I’m all for capitalism in general, but health care is the exception to this rule, as a famous Canadian named Tommy Douglas said. Health care should be available to all people if a country actually cares about its citizens. A service that literally means the difference between life and death should be attainable to everyone, unless you believe that only the rich deserve to live and the poor deserve to die.

[thirst953]

@valeriethekkumbruff Currently, the United States government spends 2 trillion dollars a year on health care. How can countries like canada afford to offer this service for free. Even if you have the most efficient system in the world or even the most efficient possible, the government cannot afford to spend that much of it's budget every year on healthcare. The money has to come from somewhere. if the health care isn't coming from taxes, then the government is compromising on something else.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 I guess we do “compromise” on some other spending, like we spend much less money war-mongering than the U.S. does. lol But that’s fine, at least we provide for our citizens. We also spend less money on law enforcement because we do not own guns like people in the U.S. and therefore we have lower crime rates in all categories. Health care is NOT a waste of government money.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 Actually everybody in Canada WORKS to pay for the health care system too. You have to work and earn money in order to be taxed on it. It’s just the idea of putting all of our money in a shared pot, for the purpose of health care, because unlike other goods and services that one should have to earn, EVERYBODY deserves health care.

[valeriethekkumbruff]

@thirst953 For further explanation see the comments that I just posted on the clip directed at Mr545432. I do not have time for this. Some people don't want to see reason and I have to accept that.

[Chidanandaji]

I compiled a blog titled "Corporate Executives Deny 57 Million Americans Healthcare - by Bill Woollam" Just Google that. The American health care system is one of the worst in the world and has been compromised by the US Administration, the Health Insurance and Management Offices, and the American Medical Assoc.

Canada, Britain, France and even Cuba all have hassle free, debt-free, comprehensive, universal health care plans where every citizen receives health care with no additional costs

[tehawesome100]

all the programs Art Thompson talks about sound great - happier children, happier parents and no violence - why is he against this? Because it goes against the belief of social darwinism!!!!! He wants only a few to be rich and powerful . I don't agree with a completely free market because it goes against christian teachings - morals which teach us that usury and greed are wrong and to helping the poor is good.

[thirst953]

@tehawesome100 this bill is unconstitutional and indirectly supports abortions. I check everything i hear about on this video because i realize how politically slanted it is. I looked at the bill on my own and came to the conclusion that the money is given to health facilities regardless of what they offer. The health facility decides what to do with the money. If the government really wanted to prevent the funding of abortions, they would put a limitation as to what the money could be spent on.

[ddwest47401]

this has never been about health care, this has always been about control of the masses transforming our nation into a communist society.

[Babylauncher3000]

Well of couse it wouldent end funding to people and places that proform abortion. Abortion is legal, and removing all funding from something that every american has a right too is obsurd.

[TheJohnBirchSociety]

@Babylauncher3000 Would love to see where in the Constitution it says that you have a right to kill babies.

[Daguigoz]

@TheJohnBirchSociety Two cells attached together is a foetus and hardly a baby yet

[TheJohnBirchSociety]

@Daguigoz All the more reason to protect the most vulnerable.

[Daguigoz]

@TheJohnBirchSociety It's not alive or anything...No heart beat no concience... it is like scratching dead skin or or pulling out some hair. I hate people that kill the foetus while they have a heart beat.. but when its in early stages its nothing...

[TheJohnBirchSociety]

@Daguigoz If it wasn't alive, it would not be growing. Cells would not be multiplying.

[Daguigoz]

@TheJohnBirchSociety Then trees, insectes, animals and middle easterners deserve to live and killing them is immoral and all human beeing should stop to kill all life, and I mean ALL. No more killing nature and humans for the production of oil, No more farms. No more wars, no more tree cutting.

[TheJohnBirchSociety]

@Daguigoz All human life is indeed precious and should be protected. Humans have dominion over the resources of the earth, including animals, plants and minerals, of which we should use wisely for our benefit.

[PGMEagle]

Our Gov will be the people that will cause the death of the United States

[intellaricovision]

Goodbye the United States of America, here is the United Socialist States of America.

[minion6500]

@jerzyguy29 sadly most people just dont care about politics, what they dont realize is how much politics affects us individually AND as a whole. it scares me

[rowland2110]

I expect full scale riots across the US when the impact of Obamacare on this country really starts to hit people. Buckle up.

[dezldummi]

I can just imagine how they will be answering the phone at the white house in the very near future.....  "Mao, Marx, Stalin, and Sotero...how may I direct your call"

[jshpro3]

So your argument is that Obama is going to kill my grandma?

[greenghost2008]

I'm not against assisted suicide by itself.

[iFreedom4ever]

ObamaCare = Govt control