Ken Robinson - multiple intelligences

[Tchilufya]

'Hilarious genius....Kids will take a chance, if they dont know they will hav A GO!!(the tone )

Am trying to fry an egg in HERE...LOL

[hortihorteae]

@Tchilufya The correct phrase is "If you're not prepared to be wrong, you will never come to be original."

[Tchilufya]

LOL 'Frank sent this'

[graciegail]

Yes, ''People who have to move to think''...I relate...thank you for this...

[andersoncouncilpf]

He's a very good speaker. 'Multiple intelligence' is obvious.

[beterbutz]

look at her...shes a stripper, she has to strip TO THINK!

[gurraglad]

@beterbutz I bet you're an overweight american.

[Redbullgiveswgs11]

@gurraglad I'm an overweight american, and I don't think that that person did. Watch how you perceive others

[jenfredsams]

One of my all time favorites!

[DoctorDeo1]

SIr Ken for president over planet Earth...

[Jortegasjournal]

I took an IQ test and scored lower than all my friends in school, I am a CEO now and graduated from UC.Berkeley, and some of my high school mates work in the hair dresser! So yeah..fuck IQ test!

[teflmusic]

@Jortegasjournal The IQ test is so out of touch with reality, scrap it!

[johnnystevens1975]

Don't do music do trig.



[andrewquinn413]

@johnnystevens1975 Well you see the way that sound waves work is modelled on trigonometric functions, where the amplitude is the volume and the frequency is how high the sound sounds, so in a way I'm doing both... And physics.

I wish my high school graded me on making links between my passions, I'd definitely have a 4.2. Ah, well.

[redibeaver]

NO MEDS! That's the most insane methodology for controlling kid's behavior there is!

[porklash]

@redibeaver I want "meds" because otherwise my brain gets totally exhausted by just natural social situations. You see the medication can be a help to not just a way to get children to behave. ADHD isn't about how you behave! I've had it all my life (am 45 now) and for me it's a very hard work to concentrate on something, to focus and finish any kind of work. that's the problem. If you're a kid and got ADHD and you're beeing forced to sit in a classroom it's sometimes almost like torture.

[Valommusic]

"If you are not prepared to be wrong then you’ll never come up with anything original."

The Illusive obvious.. Mind blowing

[rh001YT]

@Valommusic Not exactly sure where you're coming from, but I do want to point out that Sir Ken used that phrase to downgrade traditional, straight-on cogntive thinking, in order to flatter the less cognitively gifted. Scientists have always not been afraid to be wrong, and often are, but they are not really thinking outside the box but attempting to enlarge in-the-box thinking. Science is tending towards orthodoxy but any new insights will have to incorporate all the old ones.

[TCupUK]

I can not help but finding myself agreeing with this man. Maybe it is because he actually demonstrates intelligence.

[rh001YT]

"Multiple Intelligences" is such a scam, a farce. There is only one useful definition for "intelligence"...the tradtional def. So people who feel left out of that club feel cheated, and then want to wear the golf shirt with that club's name on it. The more dim-witted one is, the more susceptible to flattery, and that is what Sir Ken is doing - dishing out flattery. The vain don't get that flattery is bad. But it has always been that way. Example: Pol Pot & Stalin, the rule of the brutes.

[scorinaldi]

@rh001YT your argument is somehow both at once laughably banal ( lack of any real though, evidence, discussion) and hyperbolically paranoid ( the bizarre shout out to dictators at the end ). let me guess, you're an american conservative?

[rh001YT]

@scorinaldi American, yes, conservative, no. May I point out that true to your type, you have replied with nothing of substance. So I will assume you are one of the vain, loving flattery as if it is as dear as food and water. You likely believe you are good, right and just, simply because you think you are, and your friends and like-types tell you so, and you tell them the same. Words without definitions that can set the word apart from others are mere playthings. Thus bad can mean good.

[mancheromanchero]

i was thinking of dropping out of school for a while...it was on my mind for 2 years. what was stopping me was the reward of money and diploma. When i saw this, it clicked me...and i dropped out of school.

It was probably the best decision i've ever made.

I'm taking part currently on Occupy Wall Street and never felt happier.

Revolution!!

[caboolturescumbag]

much respect to you sir ken,,,,,,,,,,,,

[dyablohunter]

3 Dislikes?

[Ughdor]

@dyablohunter Prolly ritalin salesmen. XD

[sirLEVITSKY]

This is beautmazing. I had to invent a word comprised of "beautiful" and "amazing" to describe what I just saw. Brilliant man!

[backpackpanda]

im confused. if females on average are better at multi tasking, why were/are male pro gamers so much better at broodwar?

[florydory]

The theory of multiple intelligences is easily explained by the parable of The Animal School...in which all animals are pushed to excel in an arbitrarily chosen curriculum; destroying their innate strengths and talents in the process.

[chrismca]

@florydory You are EXACTLY right! People who look at multiple intelligences as serious, informed, honest adults, would agree that Gardner's work in this area is best explained by a work of fiction. Well done.

[jaykid160]

Great guy!



[csharrio]

I love these videos and adore Sir Robinson for his humor, insight, intelligence and public speaking prowess.

I can't imagine why @tvs would speak so harshly....more of an insight into their heart than that of any external target...

I'd rather our TV's be full of these educational insights than the wonderful reality tv and info-mercials flooding the market today...........

Keep up the great work....

[rh001YT]

"Diverse thinking"...I can't wait till the D word falls out of fashion. In art, anything goes - the public will decide if it's bankable. And that is the case in every field. In biz, economics & scitech we can gauge the usefullness of an idea in advance according to whether it better approaches the middle of the good-cheap-fast triangle.

[rh001YT]

anyone wanting to grasp some of the prob with current education need only view some of the video responses to this vid. In one, a college student says she does not think that at parties, teachers are "shunned upon", and that students should be able to dance & paint in class if they want to...what?? Maybe she was dancing & painting when the English language was being taught. Here's a clue to sounding "intelligent": don't end a sentence with a preposition. Of course, doing so is creative.....

[tvswnet]

@rh001YT Don't most college students go to parties? Also, I'd caution against listening to one's use (or lack) of standard grammar patterns as being somehow indicative of their intelligence or cognitive capacities...especially since language standards are not fixed. I'm not sure the "D word" is a fashion as much as a realization...we ARE diverse...why do we pretend we're not? Our current one-size-fits-all, fall-in-line approach is simply not working...so why not try something different?

[rh001YT]

@tvswnet Proper grammar usage is common among the functional & power classes. For instance, engineers typically have excellent grammar, as they structure speech according to how the flow of thoughts describe, in order of precedence and significance, cause & effect, attributes, etc. Also, refined people don't want to hear poor grammar - it offends. You can tune in via the internet to ndtv (New Delhi Television) & hear that the news presenters/reporters in India use perfect English grammar.

[rh001YT]

There are NOT multiiple intelligences, though people do have different talents to different degrees, and that includes athletics - or are we going to say there is ""athletic intelligence"?  If you don't know the correct definition of "intelligence" then you will probably misuse it, & want to apply it to yourself, simply because it is a golden word, though it may not apply, . Intelligence is the ability to abstract sense data into categories, and to further categorize the abstraction scaffolds.

[tvswnet]

@rh001YT In this case, Multiple Intelligences refers to a specific learning theory. No, not "athletic intelligence," but "Bodily-Kinesthetic Intelligence." Your definition is along the lines of "Logical-Mathematical Intelligence." The rationale is that cognition propensities and patterns are not universal, and some learners have less cognitive flexibility than others; thus, educators can enhance learning by balancing or targeting specific "intelligences" (deeper than fostering talent).

[rh001YT]

@tvswnet Why do you believe such nonsense? Do you think it clever to redefine a term, & then posture that something more profound has happened? Intelligence is properly defined as I have defined it. Playing games with words is of course possible, but the reality does not change. "Cognitive flexibility" - again, games. Either one can or can't perform certain cognitive tasks or grasp some concepts, though the grasp can be strengthened it has nothing to do with "flexibility" I despise your type.

[tvswnet]

@rh001YT You despise my type? Really? Like you know me or my type? You may not agree with it, but the Multiple Intelligence Theory in education is a bit more than playing games with words. Why are you so angry with people who don't see the world exactly the same way you do? Why would you tell another person you despise him/her just because you don't see eye-to-eye on an education theory?

[rh001YT]

@tvswnet You're nothing but word games and slave-morality. No, Multiple Intelligence theory is only word play - redefinition of existing words & concepts to fit an ideological/political/self-adv­antage seeking agenda. I despise word gamers, & BTW, not only do you & your type present no value to me, you are a liability. And is there a better reason to despise someone than on the grounds of education theory? I want to help strong minds get stronger, you only spread confusion and flatter the weak.

[tvswnet]

@rh001YT LOL!! Yikes! :-))) Good luck with all that...

[MargaWest]

Dear Sir Ken Robinson,

I LOVE YOU!!!!

[nailedurmum01]

simply incredible. Profoundly moving insight.

[dmpeters]

AH YES.. ELEVATING THE PEOPLE BY DUMBING DOWN THE WORLD INTO BOXES THAT WE ALL..YES ALL..NEED TO FIT INTO ACCORDING TO PIN HEADS LIKE YOU..JUST LISTEN TO UNESCO AND THE UN OF CONTROLLING EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING...BRAVO

[rh001YT]

Be sober, people. The proliferation of job types in the West is the result of the cleverness and high productivity of the industrial/tech sector, which enables the surplusses of income that people need to buy any non-essential items. All jobs in non-essential sectors are tied to the amount of disposable income. Disposable income in the West is declining due to globalization. Non-traditional "intelligences" work in the non-esential sectors. Think this through.

[dmpeters]

@rh001YT

WELL PUT

[SarahE201113]

Is there a way to get the whole thing?

[danielodyssey]

@SarahE201113 Go to TED dot com

[SpicyHam]

Ken Robinson is a god.

[rh001YT]

Sir Ken is simply pandering to the lower-cognitive ability types. Publc education was not invented to "serve the needs of the industrial revoltuion", it was created to serve the public whose numbers was increasing beyond the carrying capacity of the land. thus people had to learn the more efficient ways of producing, which required education beyond the plow. Emphasis on "producing". The extra efficientcy of industry created money and leisure time for the "arts". Horse before cart, please.

[rosenbluntz]

@rh001YT Oh, really? Are you pandering to the same lower-cognitive ability types now, too? Sure, sure, it was created to do what you're saying, too, I guess... but is it effective?

[rh001YT]

@rosenbluntz No, I am not pandering the lower-cogs, as unlike Sir Ken, I am content to report accurately even if such reportage is taken as insult by the lower-cogs. The current system in the USA is effective if the student is not disorderly & negatively influenced by low-type parents or lack of. There are barely any employment shortages for experts in USA, & small shortages are not really shortages but shortages of techies willing to work for the lower wages that for instance Asians will.

[rosenbluntz]

@rh001YT if you're not afraid to offend them, why don't you just call them dumb people? The impression I'm getting from you is that public schooling works for you if you're lucky. I fail to understand how one correlates disorderliness or incompetent parents to lower cognition. Your stance covers bases in how to fit the gears into place that already exist... but it's also very vertical, hierarchical, and reliant on the preconception that each successive degree mandates one's relative brilliance.

[rh001YT]

@rosenbluntz I am using the correct terminolgy from cognitive science - if one feels that insults, so be it. Why don't you quit whining? BTW, "dumb" mean unable to speak, the correct word you're trying for is "stupid" which actually does have a textbook definition, basicaly: extreme categoriztion failure. The good cognitive genes seem to be rather randomly spread around - if that is lucky, then so be it. As we don't need low-cogs to do high-cog work, what is your point?

[rosenbluntz]

@rh001YT Stop whining? I'm pretty sure I wasn't whining. Not that I could convince you otherwise all the way up there on your horse. This is over, you brought petty definitions into an argument when colloquialisms are perfectly understood. I didn't bust your ass on grammar and I wont bust it on some of your spelling. I'll only suggest you pull your head from whatever dark and cavernous region it's lodged in. Go ahead, be mad that I dangled a preposition while you're at it.

[rh001YT]

@rosenbluntz OD, well it's pretty clear now, as is was for the most part from the get go, that you're a slave moralist. Nothing can be done about your type, but please take a minute to note that your type has never made a significant contribution to human progress towards peace and prosperity. I am not against the upliftment of those that can be uplifted, but I am against spending my money on boondoggles even if it makes the doggles feel better about their mostly useless selves.

[adlowdon]

@rh001YT You contradict yourself. Public education was created in order to have a higher skilled workforce that was required by the industrial revolution which came about because industrialization was more efficient that the earlier cottage industry model and the agricultural model before that. What Ken is saying is that simply because this system came out of the economic requirements of industrialization does not mean that the system is at all ideally suited for all people.

[rh001YT]

@adlowdon It's a bit more complex than the simple picture you paint. But yes the system is not ideally suited for all people, it is suited for focused, self-driven medium-high to high cognitive types who are that way even as children. In order to have a modern, comfortable, reasonably secure & fun civilization a lot is required of the mind. The current system properly implemented w/ normal children does develope in them the kind of mind needed to man this ship. The error factor is unfortunate.

[rh001YT]

@adlowdon I think you are putting the cart before the horse. The Industrial Revolution & the scientists & inventors were not separate from the people, they were part of the people. The IR bootstrapped itself up, & people liked the new efficiencies & comforts & funs. The IR progressed too rapidly for some, and once, ie Italy had packs of street urchins, but no more. Everyone wanted education, including the poor, & where there are poor today, like India, they want education. The system is working.

[superbn0va]

this man speaks the truth.

[mhand00]

BTW, the book he is talking about writing and names: "Epiphany", is now published under the name "The Element", as in "being in your element".

[caseyspaos]

2 people were my high school teachers

[numerrita]

I have adhd, hd, ddd, fuckinghdhd, and i love it.

[0HippyHunter0]

Odd that he would repeat the mulitasking myth. Woman are not simply better, as though all women are better than all men. This simply wasn't the case. When they compiled the results they found that the average score for women was slightly higher than that of men.

[Wolfsrain90]

@0HippyHunter0 I think that it's understood that he's speaking in generalised terms.

[0HippyHunter0]

@Wolfsrain90 Ummmm... no. He is talking very specifically. Women have a larger brain chunk that makes them better at multitasking, and his anecdote backes it up. Even if he was, the study is still bunk. This "raf (?) of research" is BS.

[blondeviking64]

@0HippyHunter0 Anyway, I cant cite the study but I had read about a year ago about multitasking. It said that both men and women lose at least 60% of their productivity by multitasking. That number is higher in men than women. What it means is that women are better at multitasking than men. It also means that both men and women are less productive when multitasking. Also, the number could be 40 percent but I cant remember the exact number. Either way it was significant and kind of startling.

[0HippyHunter0]

@blondeviking64 I'm aware that this is very pervasive. The Center for Cognitive Brain Imaging at Carnegie Mellon University and Alfred P Sloan Center on Working Families at the University of Chicago both found that women do not hold an edge in multitasking, its a MYTH. Both of those studies found men and womens abilites to be within the margin of error. Multitasking is more dependent on the individual than it is on gender, women would love you to believe they "multitask more" so they're better.

[drbayoms]

@0HippyHunter0

" When they compiled the results they found that the average score for women was slightly higher than that of men."

Semantics

[Mu5clehead]

Mr. Robinson's speeches are practical and straight to the point.

BUT, most importantly he is 100% correct.

[MacGregorMr]

TrenerSPW: I am too and I am working towards the same end. You are not alone.

[HelpWithMath1]

The reason our education system is the way it is? Because it's easy. There are so many people everywhere that you need to be able to assign numbers and measurements to everyone. Have you ever advertised for a job? You get 100s of applications and so what do you do? You look at everyone's grades, degrees, presentation - anything that's easily measured. Unfortunately creativity, personality and interest are not easily measured, so they are not considered when picking the 5 top candidates.

[musicwithcolour]

@HelpWithMath1 Indeed you have said much in saying a little

[kmakuakane]

I was feeling so alone on this issue till now

[GrannyHoney]

I love Sir Ken!

[TrenerSPW]

Since it is so blatantly obvious what must be done to bring out kids' full potential why is it that nobody does anything to change the educational system? Could it be that they don't want you to be a creative, conscious, free-thinking, self-sufficient entity?

[Kaisharga]

@TrenerSPW Not quite so obvious as you think, especially to those who are in charge of administration, the people who provide the money for schools and teachers. To wit: No Child Left Behind, the biggest homogenizing step in schooling in America in decades.

[SpicyHam]

@TrenerSPW well the world is stuck, it is clogged up,

in other words, there is no one acutally alive. hehe

did i cheer you up

[TrenerSPW]

@SpicyHam Not really, no... but, I'm not going to stand by; i work in education, trying to make a difference. and Sir K.Robinson really inspired me to try to contribute to bringing down the obsolete system... I know, I'm just one man- what can I do, right? Well...maybe I can, if I try. everyone should.

[SpicyHam]

@TrenerSPW alrighty

[Nickismyname7]

@TrenerSPW I think since our generations have all been brought up into public education they see school as something that isn't changeable. Everyone hates school but nobody thinks they can change it for some odd reason.

[Snardfhat]

This is an excerpt from Sir Ken Robinson's "Do school kill creativity?"

The twenty minute video is time well spent.

[leparditas]

he have great sense of humor and great point of view.respect...thumbs up!

[CeeGeeZ]

"They WILL in a minute!" {LOL!} this is the applied constructive, creative and confident competence our national moment requires! One of my fave Sir Ken parables.~{^_^}~

[joseppy2005]

Sir Ken Robinson in Norwich for just £115... on the 18th november 2010 (search specialist education)

[yserrant]

"Somebody else would have put her on medication and told her to calm down."

That almost makes me wan to cry. So many powerful minds that have been squandered because we label them as having a problem rather than being different.

[vk92007]

There is no two way about it. You gotta love this man to death. The other person for arts & sciences was Jacob Bronowski with his 'Ascent of Man'.

[MrKli4d]

I love that he said ADD hadn't been invented instead of discovered.

[BEATSbyV]

this is less than half of the vid

[666fruitfly]

differentiation is a principle of good teaching today, where each child's needs and strengths are IDEALLY recognized and met,

YET, your child will read ABOUT "democracy" in books, and never experience or actually practice it in any deep or meaningful way in 99% at school (democracy as a way of life, not as an 'event'),

(if you think a student council with occasional bake sales is a full and complete exploration of democratic governance, then these ideas are not meant for you)

[666fruitfly]

as a teacher in a singapore international school, i am confident that were the majority of parents given access to what many of us educators REALLY think about schools, "education", about you and about your kid, you'd have to lay down to take the bad news,

anyway, what do teachers know about education, we're all just in it for the long breaks, the tenure, and the fat pay stubs,

education has no vision and no guts because the middle class want the status quo, at any cost,

because it's safe.

[china4418]

@666fruitfly

Fruitfly! Either you are joking, or you need to move schools!!! ha ha.

[janfischer66]

this is so good and true...

[thejerseydude]

If you've seen the movie "Girl, Interrupted?" That's me, except in a guy's body.

One day I was told I have AHDD, and within a few months  of taking medication I was reduced to a schizophrenic, almost vegetable-like state. Though I am better now, (after taking antipsychotics for several years that I'm still on) I will never be the same spontaneous, revolutionary and not as motivated as I was when I was 16. Now I am just one of the rest-- A tragic loss all in just a few months.

[gbgunn2]

His humor keeps our attention, but his point is serious and right on target.

[berryberrymuch]

exactly !

[archilTb]

@gbgunn2 

[anonymousjg]

@gbgunn2  the only way people can get their points across these days is to be humurous with some intellegence.

[OdinsLoaf]

Im glad im stubborn enough to not take the pill my parents wish i took xD

now someones on my side

[CeeGeeZ]

@OdinsLoaf Good for YOU!! I always hunched that the whole ADHD (blame the victim of adult ignorance) phenom was incredible-but once again tyrannical tunnel visioned AMA rules inherent individual experiential awareness & self healing.

[SpicyHam]

@OdinsLoaf and what a brilliant decision u've made, young one

[MargaWest]

@OdinsLoaf That's really great of you, OdinsLoaf! You've surely lots and lots of TALENTS!!!!!

[OdinsLoaf]

@MargaWest haha I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not

[Matt0401]

@OdinsLoaf

Absolutely. We're all human. We have natural thoughts and natural talents. Let's keep it that way. There's no need to medicate away abnormalities. They're gifts.

[OdinsLoaf]

@Matt0401 furthermore, even if we all have the same ideas, we all have different processes to explain them, and/or get to that final finished presentation. Disrupting the process is like cutting of the soul

[MrRichieRichieRichie]

@OdinsLoaf I was forecd to take pills, but i broke free.

[ssjpowell]

@OdinsLoaf Really dude... your not taking the pill your parents wish you to took... i dont blame you i was like you. This mans is very intellegent however... ADHD is real and the pills work... i have it and the pills help me concentrate and kept me in school. Take your fucking pill and do some work. This man knows nothing of ADHD most people dont most "Experts" no NOTHING of ADHD first hand... ADHD is real, and its a blessing... i love it! We were born fighters!

[TheFurinkan]

@ssjpowell I was diagnosed with ADHD. I'm sure that it is real, and that your little pill made you all better. I however responded negatively to the medication. Why? I don't have ADHD. Doctors have gotten ADHD happy, and are diagnosing a lot of things as ADHD that aren't. The result is people like me not being able to remember large chunks of my childhood. Some blessing ADHD is; glad I stopped taking my meds. My GPA is now 3.6+.

[ontological100]

@OdinsLoaf Rock on. Don't do drugs man.

[FlaiteOne]

@OdinsLoaf same here xD

[trickmastermonkey]

the last example he gave about the young girl who ended up becoming in her future career a dancer/choreographer (Gillian Lynne) is, on the multiple intelligence spectrum, predominantly kinaesthetically intelligent.

"she had to move to think"

"somebody else might have put her on medication (for ADHD) and told her to calm down"

i can definitely relate to this video in more ways than one, based on the many examples he gave (in the full length version of the this vid).

[Wcoltd]

I agree entirely, I wrote a letter to one of my speech class professors - a mandatory speech class at the university I go to, and I told her that teachers don't do what they think they do, that is, they do not teach their students, people forget most of what they learn within a few months, teachers can only interest students so that the students teach themselves

[Turbolego]

Love it. :D

[GearMaven]

Love this video, especially with the beginning scenes. Excellent and humorous talk about education. So accurate and timely.