@PhantomTimeLord This game is set 200 years after the first Myst game, and the main character in this game isn't the same stranger as in the first four games. According to Cyan, the main character in Myst V is Dr. Watson from the DRC.
Another brilliant performance by Dilandau3000! Now to go back and watch the Uru expansions which I purposely missed because I thought the original Uru was the hole i needed to fill...
I must say bravo to you good sir, I have always loved the Myst series and it's one of the single best series ever made. I found your Let's play for Myst 1 and have followed your entire series to this point, though I wish you had done Myst 3 I watched shadyparadox's version. All in all your Let's Plays were amazingly well done, well narrated, and a true joy to watch. Once again bravo to you and thanks.
Something bugged me about the protagonist being Dr. Watson in this game and then it hit me that David Ogden Stiers also voiced Dr. Watson in a recording from To D'ni. Which meant that if Dr. Watson could talk back, well, he'd be talking to himself :).
Esher at the end there really reminded me of the WoW kid freak out video. He's whining and whining and whining and Yeesha just goes "Silence." and he shuts up.
@Zoney1 He reminded me of Mojo Jojo for some reason. Still not sure why.
Didn't you say that the Bahro/Tablet also had something to do with the ability to write Ages and to Link? What if those don't work anymore?
That'd be kind of a poetic ending: they're now stuck in Relishan, meaning they have to protect their world and make it the best they possibly can, just like us.
@Sailor11Sedna We know that's not the case, since the events of Myst Online Uru Live while it was under gametap take place after Myst V chronologically (that's also when it was established that Dr. Watson freed the Bahro). So we know that linking still works.
I like to think that Riven was the last canon game and the ones that follow were just fan fiction games. Because honestly, they were all really silly after Riven.
So if this is near present day and the previous Myst events were dated back in the 19th century... that would make Atrus really old. Do D'ni live a long time, then?
@SJothra The D'ni can live up to nearly 3 centuries. I'm not sure exactly when Atrus was born, but Yeesha was born in 1815, so she'd be a 190 years old by the time of Myst V.
@Dilandau3000 300 years?!? Holy sh*t... Man, that's- oh, wow. Those people have everything. They can make new worlds, live a long time, have an interesting history... I wish this stuff was real. I wanna make a linking book!
Now I know that it can't really happen (as far as logic and understanding goes), but out of curiosity, how does one make a linking book function? Is it the ink? Do you have to be D'ni?
your way of doing this is great!!! i was unable to install the game so i started watching this videos. Your way of explaining the things you were doing were like playing the game myself! Thank you. It was like watching a damn long good movie!
@SJothra Miller did voice Atrus (he's the one thing that's consistent about the series, actually) - or are you pointing out that his performance overall seems like he's lost a bit of the energy he had from the previous installments?
@Corpseplower I pause around 9:41 and look at what says "Voix" (which I looked up and it somewhat means voice) and it says someone named Bernard Bollel did his voice. Doesn't seem right, though. Sounds like Miller and I can't imagine anyone else playing Atrus' voice.
My mom believes that Esher isn't Esher, but Kadish. My mother says that Yeesha brought Kadish back to life, and said that in his new life his name was to be Esher. Do you believe my mom is correct? I don't know......
I just hope for more ages for Myst online. I don't feel like it has a good way to go without having enough books to fill the shelf and more. I want to fill BOTH shelfs with linking books, and possibly even more expansions to Relto.
I guess in the end, this game was pretty much a disappointment. It's not a bad game, per se - in fact, it has many good points. The navigation is easy, the graphics are breathtaking, and the character animation is superb - but as you mentioned here at the end, the Ages just don't feel alive like they do in Myst or Riven. The nooks and crannies to explore are gone. The sense of history is eliminated and is given to us only by Esher.
It is, as he said, a "Myst opportunity," which is unfortunate.
The one exception to this rule is Riven, where we know who the villains/heroes are, and it's just a matter of figuring out how to follow Atrus's instructions. In Myst and Myst IV, we have to decide which of the brothers to trust - and the entire game must be spent figuring this out. Myst III presents us with Atrus and Saavedro, who appear to be respectively good and bad. But as the game progresses, we actually feel some sympathy for Saavedro. Not so with Esher.
Finally, one of the biggest issues with the game has to do with the end choice. It's obvious from the start that Esher cannot be trusted, so that leaves Yeesha. But both Esher and Yeesha have stated not to give it to her - although Esher says at the end that she has changed her mind, but still. The decision is pretty much laid out for you. This isn't like the other games, where you need to go through the whole journey before you know who to trust.
Another issue with the game that really stood out was the linear structure, which violates the free exploration that makes Myst so wonderful. This is probably most obvious in Taghira, which seems to serve as an introductory Age with only one puzzle; and Laki'ahn, where we see Esher at his darkest. Obviously, the game was meant to be played in the order that you used - and the inclusion of Direbo was a rather sloppy way to attempt to make the game non-linear.
Thanks for yet another wonderful LP, Sven - it was very entertaining!
I agree with all of your conclusions about how this game turned out, especially about repetitiveness and homogeneity. What was really frustrating was that every single Age involved getting the slate from pedestal to pedestal and to the Keep, plus using the environmental manipulation glyph somewhere along the way. And, with the exception of Todelmer, there's always a pressure pad puzzle in every Age. Way too much repetition.
Something occurred to me: if you were to drop the Tablet next to the Myst book, then link to the island (as Carlushka suggested), wouldn't two endings happen simultaneously?
You would experience the Yeesha-Bad ending on your own, in which Esher berates you for wasting the Tablet, but the Bahro would pick up the Tablet from K'veer.
Thus, you would be trapped, but the Bahro would be freed.
Given all this, Cyan should perhaps have programmed a fourth ending.
im not too sure about it but has it ever been actually tried? i still think the action of u findin ur way out and selling it on ebay is the best ending an LP could ever have.
Yeah, I thought the same thing would happen in the game as it is. But if they were to make a 4th ending, do you think the Bahro might know to come pick you up at Myst Island, like they seem to have done with Esher?
Anyone besides me get naughty thoughts when Yeesha said "I am not given easily to those around me?" And regarding your theory about Dr. Watson, Atrus calls the player "My old friend" obviously referring to the stranger in the previous 4 games. So either Atrus is getting senile as he approaches 400 (or however old they get) or it's implied that the stranger is really Dr. Watson. I really hope that isn't the case. I also have a theory about the relationship between the Bahro, Dni, and tablet.
I belive Atrus may be going blind in his old age. He is like 300 by now, since Yeesha is around 200. Also, the protaganist can't be Dr. Watson, the strategy guide used the same guy as the Uru guides. Could be that Watson got the tablet in an alternate dimension, considering how the strategy guide handled the bad (MYST) endings.
Congrats on completing another great Let's Play. I look forward to the Myst IV one.
Although I have to say one thing about the ending. I did not really like how the good ending does not require the player to visit Myst. I think it would have been more fitting to have it play a part in the games end events.
not my faviorate ending , too cliche
jmm1233 1 month ago in playlist More videos from Dilandau3000
Thank you for these playthroughs! These games are amazing. I'm now reading the novels.
WhisperDeeply 2 months ago
u definitely sold me on myst 4 (which i have) and now i want this one lol
why do storytellers have to be so magical LOL! i can tell it probably took you months to get these games together but it is worth it they work
themananswer2250 3 months ago
has anyone realised how old the "stranger" must be by now? its been like 50 yrs since the first myst game...
PhantomTimeLord 6 months ago
@PhantomTimeLord This game is set 200 years after the first Myst game, and the main character in this game isn't the same stranger as in the first four games. According to Cyan, the main character in Myst V is Dr. Watson from the DRC.
Dilandau3000 6 months ago 3
Another brilliant performance by Dilandau3000! Now to go back and watch the Uru expansions which I purposely missed because I thought the original Uru was the hole i needed to fill...
mercuraz 6 months ago
ok, the esher scene...kiiinda...definetly looked like ...ahem..you know...they were getting cozy ..ahem..cough
aserta 8 months ago
I must say bravo to you good sir, I have always loved the Myst series and it's one of the single best series ever made. I found your Let's play for Myst 1 and have followed your entire series to this point, though I wish you had done Myst 3 I watched shadyparadox's version. All in all your Let's Plays were amazingly well done, well narrated, and a true joy to watch. Once again bravo to you and thanks.
Phenominal222 9 months ago
Did you say a "clean slate"?
mimkyodar 9 months ago
Esher. A childish brat.
mimkyodar 9 months ago
ok MAJOR plothole here : why didn't Yeesha simply tell the stranger to drop the tablet???
schwarzfalk 9 months ago
@schwarzfalk Because, even though she knows better, she still wants to have the tablet.
Dilandau3000 9 months ago
@schwarzfalk DUH! That would be way too easy.
Mrgahoolefan 6 months ago
Something bugged me about the protagonist being Dr. Watson in this game and then it hit me that David Ogden Stiers also voiced Dr. Watson in a recording from To D'ni. Which meant that if Dr. Watson could talk back, well, he'd be talking to himself :).
shuboy05 10 months ago
Esher at the end there really reminded me of the WoW kid freak out video. He's whining and whining and whining and Yeesha just goes "Silence." and he shuts up.
Zoney1 10 months ago
@Zoney1 He reminded me of Mojo Jojo for some reason. Still not sure why.
Didn't you say that the Bahro/Tablet also had something to do with the ability to write Ages and to Link? What if those don't work anymore?
That'd be kind of a poetic ending: they're now stuck in Relishan, meaning they have to protect their world and make it the best they possibly can, just like us.
Sailor11Sedna 10 months ago
@Sailor11Sedna We know that's not the case, since the events of Myst Online Uru Live while it was under gametap take place after Myst V chronologically (that's also when it was established that Dr. Watson freed the Bahro). So we know that linking still works.
Dilandau3000 10 months ago
I like to think that Riven was the last canon game and the ones that follow were just fan fiction games. Because honestly, they were all really silly after Riven.
BigGator5 1 year ago
So if this is near present day and the previous Myst events were dated back in the 19th century... that would make Atrus really old. Do D'ni live a long time, then?
SJothra 1 year ago
@SJothra The D'ni can live up to nearly 3 centuries. I'm not sure exactly when Atrus was born, but Yeesha was born in 1815, so she'd be a 190 years old by the time of Myst V.
Dilandau3000 1 year ago
@Dilandau3000 300 years?!? Holy sh*t... Man, that's- oh, wow. Those people have everything. They can make new worlds, live a long time, have an interesting history... I wish this stuff was real. I wanna make a linking book!
Now I know that it can't really happen (as far as logic and understanding goes), but out of curiosity, how does one make a linking book function? Is it the ink? Do you have to be D'ni?
SJothra 1 year ago
your way of doing this is great!!! i was unable to install the game so i started watching this videos. Your way of explaining the things you were doing were like playing the game myself! Thank you. It was like watching a damn long good movie!
Dankjewel !!!
TolTU 1 year ago
I noticed that Rand Miller didn't voice Atrus as he usually plays him. Oh, well.
SJothra 1 year ago
@SJothra Miller did voice Atrus (he's the one thing that's consistent about the series, actually) - or are you pointing out that his performance overall seems like he's lost a bit of the energy he had from the previous installments?
Corpseplower 1 year ago
@Corpseplower I pause around 9:41 and look at what says "Voix" (which I looked up and it somewhat means voice) and it says someone named Bernard Bollel did his voice. Doesn't seem right, though. Sounds like Miller and I can't imagine anyone else playing Atrus' voice.
I dunno. Maybe I'm just confused lol
SJothra 1 year ago
@SJothra Those are the voices for the French localised version of the game. In the English version Rand Miller voices him as usual.
Dilandau3000 1 year ago
@Dilandau3000 Oh! That would explain the "voix" part then. Thanks for clearing that up for me :)
SJothra 1 year ago
Great Let's Play, aweful game! A shame the myst series ends that way!
PappaNoah 1 year ago
You did an AWESOME job man.....thanks! Riven still my fav, but this wasn't bad.
Snowmation 1 year ago
My mom believes that Esher isn't Esher, but Kadish. My mother says that Yeesha brought Kadish back to life, and said that in his new life his name was to be Esher. Do you believe my mom is correct? I don't know......
SierraMurray 1 year ago
@SierraMurray:
It sounds like your mom is taking several leaps of faith.
PeterRabbitTV 1 year ago 2
I just hope for more ages for Myst online. I don't feel like it has a good way to go without having enough books to fill the shelf and more. I want to fill BOTH shelfs with linking books, and possibly even more expansions to Relto.
SalesKital 1 year ago
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CopycatStudios 2 years ago
You know, Esher kinda acts like a little 7 y.o. who doesn't get the ice cream he wants. @ 4:27
L1F315MU51C 2 years ago
Yeesha looks like Gilbert Gottfried! Starting at 5:43
Stevanhale 2 years ago
I guess in the end, this game was pretty much a disappointment. It's not a bad game, per se - in fact, it has many good points. The navigation is easy, the graphics are breathtaking, and the character animation is superb - but as you mentioned here at the end, the Ages just don't feel alive like they do in Myst or Riven. The nooks and crannies to explore are gone. The sense of history is eliminated and is given to us only by Esher.
It is, as he said, a "Myst opportunity," which is unfortunate.
thetopcrusader2 2 years ago
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The one exception to this rule is Riven, where we know who the villains/heroes are, and it's just a matter of figuring out how to follow Atrus's instructions. In Myst and Myst IV, we have to decide which of the brothers to trust - and the entire game must be spent figuring this out. Myst III presents us with Atrus and Saavedro, who appear to be respectively good and bad. But as the game progresses, we actually feel some sympathy for Saavedro. Not so with Esher.
thetopcrusader2 2 years ago
(continued from previous comment)
Finally, one of the biggest issues with the game has to do with the end choice. It's obvious from the start that Esher cannot be trusted, so that leaves Yeesha. But both Esher and Yeesha have stated not to give it to her - although Esher says at the end that she has changed her mind, but still. The decision is pretty much laid out for you. This isn't like the other games, where you need to go through the whole journey before you know who to trust.
thetopcrusader2 2 years ago
(continued from previous comment)
Another issue with the game that really stood out was the linear structure, which violates the free exploration that makes Myst so wonderful. This is probably most obvious in Taghira, which seems to serve as an introductory Age with only one puzzle; and Laki'ahn, where we see Esher at his darkest. Obviously, the game was meant to be played in the order that you used - and the inclusion of Direbo was a rather sloppy way to attempt to make the game non-linear.
thetopcrusader2 2 years ago
Thanks for yet another wonderful LP, Sven - it was very entertaining!
I agree with all of your conclusions about how this game turned out, especially about repetitiveness and homogeneity. What was really frustrating was that every single Age involved getting the slate from pedestal to pedestal and to the Keep, plus using the environmental manipulation glyph somewhere along the way. And, with the exception of Todelmer, there's always a pressure pad puzzle in every Age. Way too much repetition.
thetopcrusader2 2 years ago
Atrus has lost a lot of weight getting old.
cataphracts123 2 years ago
Something occurred to me: if you were to drop the Tablet next to the Myst book, then link to the island (as Carlushka suggested), wouldn't two endings happen simultaneously?
You would experience the Yeesha-Bad ending on your own, in which Esher berates you for wasting the Tablet, but the Bahro would pick up the Tablet from K'veer.
Thus, you would be trapped, but the Bahro would be freed.
Given all this, Cyan should perhaps have programmed a fourth ending.
Let me know what you think.
QUANTUMJOKER 2 years ago
im not too sure about it but has it ever been actually tried? i still think the action of u findin ur way out and selling it on ebay is the best ending an LP could ever have.
awesumness15 2 years ago
Yeah, I thought the same thing would happen in the game as it is. But if they were to make a 4th ending, do you think the Bahro might know to come pick you up at Myst Island, like they seem to have done with Esher?
carlushka 2 years ago
Why would a creature with an innate ability to link even evolve wings? This flying Bahro looked faintly ridiculous, I must say.
Another thing: if Noloben is the home Age of the Bahro, then why do we never see any wild Bahro living on the plains?
QUANTUMJOKER 2 years ago
Anyone besides me get naughty thoughts when Yeesha said "I am not given easily to those around me?" And regarding your theory about Dr. Watson, Atrus calls the player "My old friend" obviously referring to the stranger in the previous 4 games. So either Atrus is getting senile as he approaches 400 (or however old they get) or it's implied that the stranger is really Dr. Watson. I really hope that isn't the case. I also have a theory about the relationship between the Bahro, Dni, and tablet.
Phanto5692 2 years ago
@Phanto5692
I belive Atrus may be going blind in his old age. He is like 300 by now, since Yeesha is around 200. Also, the protaganist can't be Dr. Watson, the strategy guide used the same guy as the Uru guides. Could be that Watson got the tablet in an alternate dimension, considering how the strategy guide handled the bad (MYST) endings.
Mogman12 1 year ago
@Mogman12
personnally i play all the games as I'm actually in the ages, rather than just playing the game I even talk to the screen even if they can't hear me.
SalesKital 1 year ago
Congrats on completing another great Let's Play. I look forward to the Myst IV one.
Although I have to say one thing about the ending. I did not really like how the good ending does not require the player to visit Myst. I think it would have been more fitting to have it play a part in the games end events.
Andy120290Returns 2 years ago
So Myst IV next. Should be interesting. :-)
Did anybody ever do, or is planning to do a LP of Myst III?
htilden42 2 years ago
Shadyparadox said he wants to do one, which is the main reason I'm not doing it. No idea when he'll get around to it, you'd have to ask him.
Dilandau3000 2 years ago
Wow, I had no idea the Bahro had wings. But the Bahro are kinda cute :D
SoraOwnsAll8745 2 years ago
Great set of videos, anxiously waiting for the next one.
Rock4Switz7 2 years ago
Thanks, Sven. Already looking forward to the next one!
nleonard49 2 years ago
"I needed iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! Duck knee needed mEEEEeeeeeee!"
What a whiner XD
Any idea what would happen if you dropped the tablet right next to the Myst book and linked there before a bahro came to pick it up?
carlushka 2 years ago 9
@carlushka
You get the first bad ending, where it's like if you gave the tablet to Yeesha.
htilden42 2 years ago
Thanks :)
carlushka 2 years ago
there's a glitch. a little blob thing will be by the tower
VoyagesInEnglish 2 years ago