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  • nice

  • completely cover the top of the bowl with led lights. and you will figure out how to program it to fly,just by watching the reactions of the lights when current is applied.

  • Haha l'accent français !

  • @coldsn It's kind of a dumb design, since it's producing a low pressure area below the craft. It's thrust would be much higher if there was a paper vent pulling air in before it goes up to the larger capacitor, and some paper around the outside to better direct the air downward

  • the thrust is pushing toward the larger electrode, but there's nowhere for the accelerated air to vent upward, so the rim of the top electrode redirects/ducts the flow out and down. That's also why it's so unstable.

  • joust some HV

  • o and it does work in a vacume my god the mythbusters really makes people look away from whats there they even said that the hho gas does not work when a man named bob lazar has one and it works

  • Looks like the aliens had a bit too much to drink.

  • What's your name?

  • eatshit2gofu*kyourself.ee

    

  • eatshit

    

  • 'Lifter' technology is a misnomer, these should be called 'thrusters', since they generate 'thrust'.

  • tell me how to make this. this is awesome

  • ionic wind

  • biggest crap

  • The guy with the fishin pole was around the corner...

  • post a video on how you built this flying contraption and then someone can back engineer the process and give you the answer your looking for.

  • @finderoftheway just google "brown bahnson saucer", theres plenty of sites out there

  • I mean no offense, but I can't really understand what you're saying. It's not just because of the accent, I think you just might be a little too close to whatever you're recording this on.

  • the string.. the string .. i can almost see it.

  • Very interesting. :)

  • omg, a flying lamp...

  • It's the alien hubcap from Mr. Accident

  • wtf you sayin man ?

  • sacrebleu!

  • 0.14 second are you talking about the rapper TUPAC?

  • haha !

  • very cool...

  • i made one of these and ive been to the moon three times .. it makes a great gift and only runs on 2 AA batteries.. great video

  • U remind of one of my professors of Electromagnetics ... He use to speak same language as urs.....:-)

  • touch it 0.0

  • I have a suspicion that you are creating an electromagnetic bubble underneath the cupola. If so, this is going to shove the smaller EM molecular bubbles out of it's space. The cupola is preventing upward expansion so the downward only expansion drives the lifter upwards.

  • @percyeyeeight you would need an inflow of "EM molecular bubbles" to create that flow downwards. Since the top of the cupola is closed this is not possible.

  • Basically a means of flying we have no control over? Useful, if you can't decide where to vacation.

  • fancy lamp though

  • at 0.51, this mimics how a female pilot would control the craft,

    if they could remember where they had parked it :-)

  • @faceityafired Fucking LOL!

  • @faceityafired I live in Cali so I was thinking Asian pilot.

  • @faceityafired parked it in the kitchen.

  • Cool video! I have a video of a lifter on my channel that I made of a lifter using a Schlieren photography setup. You can see the air moving between and around both the electrodes. Check it out and let me know what you think! Keep up the great work!

    Thanks - Otto

  • I like to put one'a those on my weenier

  • Bon je disais ça pour rigoler ne vous en faites pas j'entendais ça à votre accent que vous êtes Français c'est pour ça que je vous ai fait la remarque ;) :) si non dites moi ce que c'est et comment ça marche et à quoi ça sert svp en Français cette fois-ci :) ?

  • Bon je disais pour rigoler ne vous en faites pas ;) :) si non dites moi ce que c'est et comment ça marche et à quoi ça sert svp en Français cette fois-ci :) ?

  • can't understand your english

  • Ihh Jaahst looost maa miiiind

  • Biefield/Brown effect. (See T. Townsend Brown). Classic demonstration of Electro-gravitational stimulus. John Searl disc is similar in function. Often this is referred to as Net Inertia Propulsion Ion Drive. Electronatom corporation had patented a similar device in 1949 under legend "ion Boundary Layer Control".

  • Ce nais par vrai mon ami! Not anti gravity, just ion power.

  • It's "ionic wind". Well known principle, but unfortunately takes masses of power to make not very much thrust. 

  • @hog660 This is not due to ion wind, because it works better in vaccum, and also sealed in plastic and epoxy.

  • tabarnac t'as un esti d'accent d'marde

  • Ja. Und vid such capability, ve vil rule der welt.

  • waaaaaaaaaaaa col but i hope they use it good things O:)

  • welcome to text support how can i help you ?

  • je comprend pas l anglais mais la c est bizar j ai tous compris

  • OMG..THIS IS THE DANCE OF THE FLYING UMBRELLA......

  • oh yeaaaah zisse iz the explication ofze.... ho shit iou gaved me mdr

  • thank you for posting this video. pump enough power through the right shape and you can do anything. have you made anything else along these lines? all you need for a working prototype is magueurs perpetual current generator, a method for directing energy, and a big enough frame to mount all the equipment onto.

  • you gave up on ww2, keep on going.....

  • you sound like a terrorist

  • rha l'accent de batard !

  • This may not be a lifter. A lifter uses ionic wind, basically, an electric blower. I see no real path for air movement to create enough thrust for lift. Even if it is not straight lift, it is powerful considering how it's jumping all around. If this is based on the Biefield-Brown effect, a capacitor charged with high voltage D.C. will move towards the positive plate. Or, the foil on top could be acting like a Faraday cage allowing more air to be ionized at once.

  • would you idiots shut up and tell me whats that thing?it looks like a mushroom

  • mes salutations à vous mr jl naudin,votre conception ma plutôt mise à reflechire votre machine est performant, j'aimerai avoir l'amabilité de faire votre connaissance , pour optimiser la chance de vous revoir je vous invite à me contacte sur mon adresse E-mail: frayser_boy@hotmail.fr

  • cool experiment, keep up the good work and keep us posted

  • how can i connect the wires to the lifter???

  • I wouldn't want to be on an aircraft with THAT technology

  • @mbudd121 The military relies on aerospacecraft using this technology since 1949, and the Germans since the 1930s.

  • I HATE FRENCHIES!

  • good info

  • kool , pioneer ufo technology, the real ufos are probably laughing at you in

    ther souped up lowered orbs with rims

  • @ez2bhardcore and neons!

  • fukin crazy flying bot xD

  • Génial mais pas pour ton english ;)

  • wether its anti grav or ion, or particale based field lifters. its all the same and far ahead of our time. not even the military has this shit i would know. worked on enough specail field equipment. and just building random shit. the only thing "we" got is magnetic field anti grav based designs and trust me to lift a ship u need a powerful field not to mention a large area to cover..like say a city u'd need at least 4 super powerful mag towers

  • @TheNightrunner666 THe military has this "shit", I assure you. The B2 is the best know of these, the F35, more recent, and there are TR3B electrogravitics flying triangles, and VTOL 2 man electrogravitics fighter craft from Being, Nortrop, and Lockheed-Martin. Get with it!

  • @TheNightrunner666 Professor John Searl's first SEG units went airborne, unintentionally, in 1946! Since 1954 to 1978, the Searl teams (SNSRC) have built and flown 41 flying discs, which can go as fast as you want. THey have 1/2 G onboard gravitation, motion cannot be felt from inside, and the work has crecently been resurrected, after decades of secrecy and suppresion. Searl Magnetics, Inc. opened up manufacturing offices in California last week, Searl Aerospace Inc. incorporated in Nevada,May.

  • @Beamshipcaptain really? really? i think someone has been um watching to many conspiracy videos i had a level clearance of 7 thats enough for ANY vehicle. of this world.and i assure you i've seen every single one. we dont have those vehicles if we did then our entire airforce would be based oon tthem like when the SR-71 came out suddenly the design of the planes changed. to that of the F22..come on you get with it

  • @TheNightrunner666 There is a conspiracy organised by every government. Every government knows about the SEG and IGV saucerf flightframe from the team of Professor John RR Searl. The B2 Charges its leading carbond edge to 15-million Volts positive, uses a depleted Uranium Dielectric, and shoots negative charges out the GE engines, in a flame-jet generator arrangement, invented by American physicist TT Brown.

  • @Beamshipcaptain you do know high voltage magnetic fields are high visible to radar right? it would create like a massive cone shaped blaketed area behind the point. and of course they would know that the cone is the jet/what ever creatin teh magnetic field

  • @TheNightrunner666 There are so many UFO sightings on RADAR every month, it isnt funny!

  • @TheNightrunner666 We have these Electrogravity craft in our arsenal: The Northrop Grumman B2 Stealth Bomber, F-22 Raptor, F-35 Lightning, Lockheed Martin X-33 A, the Lockheed X-22 2 man electrogravitic fighter disc, Boeing/Airbus NAUTILUS, TR3-A "Pumpkinseed", the TR3-B flying Triangle, Teledyne Ryan Aeronautical XH75D antigravity Helicopter, Northrop/Lockheed TAW-50 hypersonic antigravity fighter/bomber, and the very advanced Northrop Quantum Teleportation (quantum tunneling) disc.

  • @Beamshipcaptain im done argueing we dont have any of that shit if we did it we be used. like removing the f22 raptor because of its low technology. and every other plane. the military is not this huge idustrial complex. and nor does it have the thinking minds to create this shit. if they did we'd be on the moon or terraforming mars so what ever im done argueing fine we got all this shit that i've never seen even though i have clearance too but ok

  • @TheNightrunner666 It has been used, it is being used, and there are thousands of witnesses, in the USA, and all over the world, but of course the military denies all knowledge and insults the intelligence of the people, and elected officieals and local police.

  • @TheNightrunner666 We are on the moon and mars, since the 1960s, with classified and public, manned and un-manned missions, US/Russian joint missions, that we are not told about, some we are. The military leaders of America stood up on the News at Noon today, they had witnessed UFOs over our most sensitve military and nuclear and nuclear weaponry storage installations, and urged the US government release to the American People and the scientific community all it knows about UFOs, Clean Energy.

  • @TheNightrunner666 You wrote, "...if we did it we be used". Considering your inability to handle English grammar at a fifth grade grammar school level, I find it impossible to take anything you say seriously. Your

    writing is very nearly incomprehensible; and certainly not because of your advanced level of knowledge or education. I suggest a course in remedial English grammar for you, as well as a spellcheck program!

  • @grifflesnaffle like my sack dont give a fuck,,,,happy?

  • @TheNightrunner666 That is no clearance at all. Those having acess to and knowledge of these craft ar far above your pitiful little clearance. Those in the know are Above Top Secret, MaJic, COSMIC Top Secret Umbra, such as the workers who fly out of McCarren AFB to Groom Lake, and S4, and Dugway proving Grounds,in Utah,m and Archuleta Mesa in Northern New Mexico.

  • @Beamshipcaptain S4's highest clearance level is 4..phil what ever the hell his name was had a clearance of 3 and he had secret metals and the whole story about how he shot aliens...

  • @TheNightrunner666 I know. Now, most people are not surprised to learn we are not alone in the Universe, and that travel to any Star is possible in reasonable time and economy, using suppressed Earth technology, and Foreigh tech from elsewhere in the universe. What is criminal is the continued suppression of free energy and gravity control technology in favor of Big oil and the utilities. No more. Free energy converters and systems are for sale NOW.

  • @Beamshipcaptain because of where i live the electric company wanted 43'000 to instal 12 miles of power lines and then another 12'000 a year for up keep plus my bill. i said fuck that and for 25'000 had a fully automatice and monitoring system installed in my home. my whole house is powered by a computer. it knows when im not in a room it shuts off the lights and when i enter them it turns them on. power comes from solar panels on my roof

  • @TheNightrunner666 That is because you are smart, and skilled, and knowledgable.Most are not! Bob Lazar shows on Youtube how he powers his Corvette with Hydrogen he extracts for almost nothing from WATER. Hydrogen stored in 100% SAFEer than gasoline metal hydride tanks. And the only exhaust is drinking water. "There is NO ENERGY CRISIS, ONLY A CRISIS OF IGNORANCE" -R. Buckminster-Fuller

  • @TheNightrunner666 Gravitation is the weakest force known. Electromagnetism is THOUSANDS of times more powerful!

  • @TheNightrunner666 Ask Dr. Richard Boylan, PhD, and the military has admitted the B2, and other aerospace systems are electrogravitic. Read THE US ANTIGRAVITY SQUADRON, by THomas Valone,WB Scott " Black Word Engineers,Scientists Encourage Using Highly Classified Technology for Civil Applications," AVIATION WEEK AND SPACE TECHNOLOGY,March 9,1992:66-67,"Northrop Studying Sonic Boom Remedy'" AVIATION WEEK AND SPACE TECH., Jan.22, 1968, "Sonic Boom Experiments," PRODUCT ENGINEERING, March 11,1968).

  • @Beamshipcaptain the b2 does not have a anti grav generstor only a super aerodynamic lifting body

  • ur going negative to positive ... laviolette said that was creating a G on potential hill.... so u are making antigravity .... ur going neg to pos.. in that moment u create a net thrust...

  • I think this guy works for DELL computers troubleshooting support 1- 800 line.........HA HA

  • I don't care if I cannot understand that well, that's cool!

  • did you try to use some farts?,,UFO IS THERE!

  • on dirait moi qui parle anglais mdr

  • You spik véri well in english man !

  • I thought I was talking to my cell phone customer service provider

  • didnt get a word -

  • lol tu aurais du faire les commentaire en francais et pas en anglais sa donne heum bizzard^^

    jolilifter cependant;=) ta utilisé une alim d ecran de pc pour faire la haute tension pour le faire volé?

  • e=mc2..........for every force there is an equal and opposite force acting in another direction away from the original force...archemedies principal

  • @weldon0m lol

  • @weldon0m why did u say the law of relativities? he is not transforming mass into energy....

    and for info, reaction force wil be not in another direction away from the original force, this law is each force make a resulting force in the EXACT OPPOSITE way from the original force..

    have nice day

  • Wonderful! It is like the carrot at the end of the stick, only here the stick is chasing the carrot.

  • Bullshit

  • @Infidelerious Wow....U really know how to make yourself look like an ignorant redneck dont ya? Try looking up lifters, t.t brown, asymetric capacitor, Ionocraft, and Ion propulsion for starters. This is proven technology......even Mythbusters built one of these. The interesting thing here with this one is the shape...which I wont even try to explain why, U wouldnt understand!

  • @frankensteinmoneymac Wow, what an incredibly long paragraph. You must really think I care.

  • @Infidelerious Sorry, I didnt take into consideration your stupidity. I should have simply said "Nu-Uh!! U R Wrong, Bro, this is like scientific N' Shit!!" Sorry to confuse you with an "incredibly long paragraph" I know that's just too many words a day for you to handle!!!

    LMFAO!!!!!

  • @frankensteinmoneymac Wow....both boring AND pompous! How do you do it?

  • @Infidelerious Well, you manage to be .....both stupid AND

    unfunny! So, how may I ask do you do that?

  • @frankensteinmoneymac I've seen lifter demos before, but never of one that needed to be suspended from above. Awful lot of swinging to and fro going on but not much lifting. Perhaps it should be called a dangler.

    Allow me to add "unoriginal" and "petulant" to the list for you.

    Now have the last word if you must. I've finished with your kind.

  • @Infidelerious It must be hard misunderstanding so much as U. Id probably automatically call things I didnt understand "bullshit" too if I was that pathetic.This is a VERY different idea than a typical lifter, which brings up intriguing questions. It is "suspended" from 1 of the power cables. which is a good way to shape the E field. it is also not tethered at three sides like most triangular lifters....this is why it bobs around. PS Unoriginal? LMAO! I was copying U 'cause I was PARODYING U!

  • Your anglais Is very bien franchement XD

  • @Quadoraptor most of the English vocabulary originates in French

  • hang the fucking wire from the top of the wall and let it rap around your head and shock you. wake up !!!!! lol

  • Simple electrostaic repulsion. However, like the Levitron using a simple spinning magnet assembly, it can be stable in the air due to its shape and/or pinned charges (the points on the triangular versions, for instance). The use of a shaped field to provide propulsion is useful. Most of the explanations by the creators of these have not been. The reason they are not experimenting with these in big labs is due mostly to that.

  • @RyuDarragh It is simple electrostatic attraction, NOT repulsion! This is the essence of GRAVITATION. Not some warp in the fabric of space, but a recreatable effect with electromagnetism! THis opens the door to inertialess space travel at many many times the speed of light, with no mass dialation and no time dialation.

  • @Beamshipcaptain: Sorry. Electrostatic fields can both repel and attract. Like polarity field charges repel (- to - or + to +) and unlike field charges attract each other (+ to -). This is basic physics and even children in grade school knows this. This has nothing to do with your odd notion of gravity at all. If field based lifting technology is going to go anywhere, it needs to shed the silly notions proposed by so many and buckle down and do the real work of science.

  • @RyuDarragh Many of us HAVE buckled down and done the real work of science I was the one who replicated TT Brown's ELECTROKINETIC APPARATUS in 1990, with HEAVY sheet aluminum, copper and pleiglas flying saucers, and my antigravs are the largest and most energy-efficient in all history, and my papers have been published in THE JOURNAL OF NEW ENERGY, and NEW ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES, and I have given numerous lectures at schools and conferences since 1990 on electrogravitics.

  • @Beamshipcaptain: Have you tested *any* of these lifters in a full vacuum? No? Didn't think so. I have. They. Stop. Working. It has nothing to do with gravity except as in any lifter technology that is trying to overcome it. It's lovely technology and I can see applications for what amounts to a "caterpillar drive" like an air based version of the plot device in "The Search for Red October". But, it's a different kind of lifter technology, not "UFO science" as so many have hyped it.

  • @RyuDarragh I don't have to. You can see proof of concept and tests from the 1950s to today of devices in hard vacuum levitating. Why would they not? the lifting force comes from the foil, or saucer, trying to fall into the anode.  In the 1990s I built sheet metal TT Brown saucers, and they flew with a lot of force from a standing start on 100kV to 120kV and if you are getting no results in vacuum, you need to use a solid dielectric, or raise the spark-gap, increase Voltage and lower current.

  • @Beamshipcaptain: Give me a ref to such a trial in a vacuum chamber as large as 6000 cubic feet. The one at General Atomic in NJ was where I got to play with many fun toys and they rent them out (well did in the late 70's... don't know about today). Remember, electrostaic repulsion will not work if you have no neutralizing path. It's corona/caterpillar drive that fails in a vacuum.

  • @RyuDarragh General Electric Space Center, King of Prussia PA which is only 2 milse from me, in 1959, and Paris France at Societe Nationale de constructions de sud ouest, in 1955, HONDA R & D, 1996-2007, Takaaki Musha showed how the effect works better in vaccum at the 2007 AIAA mtng.

  • @RyuDarragh Right. And the BB effect is NOT corona-based. That is why its more efficient in vacuum, without coronal losses.

  • @Beamshipcaptain still telling lies I see

  • @RyuDarragh It IS UFO science. Why would it not be? I also build the saucers of Professor John Searl and am chief IGV engineer in Swallowcommand. THese methodologies open the entire universe to Earth humans, again, like the Vimanas of antiquity, and the levitating free energy flying saucers of Austrian Viktor Schauberger.

  • @Beamshipcaptain: I should clarify. UFO science is a non-term. UFO means "Unidentified Flying Object" and applies to anything moving through the air or space you can't identify. What you seem to be referring to is "LGM Technology" and that's like trying to figure out how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Withour real documentable and repeatable proof, it's just sci-fi.

  • @RyuDarragh sacucer technology would be a better term, since the vast majority of UFOs are shapes as such. Form follows function. And where do you think sci fi gets its inspiration?

  • hmm.... Something fishy here

  • lol , ben oui a ecouter les version officiel , on aura des avion qui vole au solaire en 2050 lolll, nous sommes noyés ds du pipo.

    Pytagore en 400 av Jc parlait deja de force antigravitationel,

    la notion de profane et d'initié existe tjrs,

    anti nouvel ordre mondial

  • reply to description: Because the direction of the air thrust is dependant upon the direction of the electricity flow. I'm not sure where you heard that polarity is not an issue because it is. A typical lifter will send the electricity downward which sends the air down, but your device send the electricity up which pushes the air up into your dome-shaped foil which produces the lift. If you would hold up a cigarette to the device while powering it you will see the airflows in the smoke.

  • "Hi this is jean louis naudin speaking.."

    Man everytime i hear that i think way back a decade ago when i first started visiting his website. lol

  • COOL now what was it you said? hard to understand your voice sorry! good demo :)

  • Well I know what technology he is useing it is called "Ionic propulsion" the reactivity of the aluminum foil to high voltage electricity pulls ions that are negative through the Al foil to the opposing side of the charge. So where the power is at, the trust will go. This isnt fake, this was discovered during the late 1940s after the war was over.

  • THis is not ionic wind propulsion. Ion wind has an upper limit to thrust, and ion wind is too weak to levitate a 5-gram model bu at least THREE ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE, as the US Army found in the year 2000.

  • everyone is laughing at you again Russell.

  • THis is not ionic propulsion, which is too weak to cause levitation by at least three orders of magnitude, and this apparatus works more efficiently lin vacuum, and moves under OIL. THis is artificial gravity.

  • sucks

  • he should not speek english, unless he wants to be comedian, funny

  • litttle wobbly, but cool!

  • tu parle mal englais lol trop drole mais cool experiance!!!

  • haha il prononce les mot englais en francais!! lol trop drole

  • nice work. 5*

  • is that book any good?

  • I like this lifter structure. Makes me want to try making a "Lens" like a magnifying glass on the upper electrode. I am tired of playing with the "Triangular" cells and "Square" cells. Time to play with circles and spheres and cones/cylinders and such.

  • This has no moving parts. Try it yourself. It is 150 the poer to weight ratio of a jet-engine, and the longer it is operated, the more efficient it gets, and cancels inertial-mass with simple high-energy electrostatics. The brute-force approach to gravity-control.

  • Isn't the thrust toward the al foil because of the nonlinear field? I believe I read that in Paul A. LaVioltte's book "Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion"

  • The parabola focuses the lines of electrostatic force like a dish-antenna, or concave mirror does for light, increasing the force with less input power. Works in vacuum, because electrostatics works in vacuum >Se this device and similar rising and levitating inside evacuated Bell Jars, at AH Bahnson labs, in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, in 1956-58. On Youtube.

  • Exactly right. Someone actually READS in here. Great. You goto the head of the class.

  • Does this not confirm as shown by TESSLA that electricity acts as AND IS A RADIO wave, in which a a neon light can be swittced on like the same way we listen to music from a radio. HOW difficult would it be to set up a Tessal tower to operate for average home usage,?

  • @nbm34 the reason it never happened was due to the effects of the tesla coil on the human body..you might not feel it but it has the same initial effect as radiation. it essentially scrambles the electrons in your body

  • @fireball676 Thank you for this comment. On reflection you are quite right about this. I think we already have people sufering from being to close to substation.

    Any powerful electical force by human beings are harmful. This is why I fear the useof TASERS by the police and present micro wave anti riot Vans targeting people with EMF, is not the use of good science in such things. Thank you for

    puting me straight on this. CONTINUED

  • @fireball676 Perhaps though if THE ORIGINAL TESSLA TOWER was rebuilt away from, human beings. Small electrical recievers in various devives would pick up the

    EMF without causing harm. What are your views on this concept.

  • @nbm34 yea to your comment about the tasers. They dont act the same way as the tesla coil, they are all volts no amprage. you also dont have free voltage just arcing in the air, it actually has to arc from the positive node to the negative node instead of just unloading into the air. And yea i like the concept personally. It takes low amounts of electricity to power a tesla coil and you get amazing results. if they could somehow trap it in a faraday cage and keep everybody around it safe

  • @fireball676 You are very intelligent about this subject. I am happy to see we agree that with the will, the concepts of low cost energy could be created.

    regards

  • @nbm34 thanks, its good to have a conversation with somebody that has a good amount of knowledge/understanding about the topic at hand. Hopefully somebody gets this put into effect. Had they put the time and money into perfecting the transmission of the power from grid to grid, i am sure we would not have the issues we are having today with the government trying to cut back power consumption. you are very intelligent as well.

  • @ahelgechiwiz: It would actually be called a "caterpillar" drive using air as the air is ionized and flows from the points of the frame. A corona drive is another applicable term. It also benefits from a bit of electrostatic repulsion from the surface it is launched from. If you build a high voltage source on a frame that provides no neutralizing path, it stops working. However, a ceterpillar drive provides that in the drive itself. Look up "ion drive" and "caterpillar drive" to see.

  • @ahelgechiwiz

    no it's not anti gravity bullsh*t its ion wind. the high voltage produces ions that fly towards the smaller ring. but as they do this the ion's hit the atoms in the air producing thrust. so stop with this anti gravity and for field crap!!!!

  • @tim0090 But this works in vacuum! Go on Youtube and see for yourself. High Energy electrostatics works BETTER in vacuum!

  • I am working on several things at once, a 3-meter IGV for Profesor Searl, for parto of my duties at Swallowcommand, and I am preparing two lectures for 2010. The vacuum-tests in belljars and large NASA chambers are there for viewing on Youtube. These work by ELECTROSTATIC ATTRACTION, not ion-wind, which the US Army in 2000 confirmed is too weak a force to cause levitation even at one atmosphere. Review antigrav experimetns of George S. Piggott, in 1904. This is ELECTRODYNAMIC flight

  • "Hey guys you should totally believe me that I know how to make antigravity machines, I'm not going to do it but I can point you to obscure books that claim the same thing"

    "This is how science is done, by you just trusting what I and a few other people say, anyone who builds anything I describe and shows I am a liar is an infidel and will be kicked out of my religion... I mean my science club"

  • (euqations), again this value is 3 orders of magnitude too small to acount for lifting a capacitor with a mass of 3 to 5 grams. Therefore, the ionic wind contributiuon is too small, by 3 orders of magnitude, to account for the observed force on the capacitor. While the force of ionic wind computed above is too small to explain the experiments in air, it should be noted that this effect will operate in vacuum, and may contribute to the overall force on a capacitor."- US ARMY RESEARCH LAB, 2000.

  • @Beamshipcaptain

    No they are not to small, they are the propulsive force, as demonstrated by MANY people who build them then place them in a chamber with no air to demonstrate their method of operation.

    watch?v=Jk2GGoMJ7NU

    You need to stop lecturing and start trying to figure out why citing things that agree with you is not the same thing as understanding the principals of physics that apply here.

  • I know, and I have observed the films of Thomas Townsend Brown device better versions of this exact same device, patented by Agnew H. Bahnson in the early 1960s, operating in evacuated belljars, from over 50-years ago, to today. Electrostatic ATTRACTION between the cathode-plate (saucer) and anode (sbquantum kinetics) is what causes the force. Read SUBQUANTUM KINETICS, by Paul A. LaViolette. Google it!