Colonel Macgregor: Stryker Fatally Flawed

[Vietboy1st]

lighter armored means more good soldiers will get kill... So i rather have heavy armored which can safe the soldier lives.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

@thenoobfactor The Stryker isn't light or mobile; MTVL Gavins are. We need a CAVALRY; Strykers should be transferred to MP brigades for road security work.

[TheJamesrocket]

@douglasmacgregorTV Exactly. Strykers will be useless in a real fight. They're bound to the road (where they can be easily ambushed), are too thinly armored, and they only have a bloody machine gun to boot! A gavin has none of those weakness, and it is only a fraction of the cost. The solution is in plain sight, the army must be blind not to see it.

[sgtpayn3]

I rode on an LAV. those strykers are the same thing just new. i think the lav is very goood and in a way in battle makes you wanna not be in there. simply it makes you a bigger target. and Rpgs go in there and cook you up. its nice to use as cover and it saves you the walk plus it looks intimidating. its up to experience i think. if you suffer in these or if you didnt you know?

[bklacc1]

@sgtpayn3 forget about the rpg cookin u, cause the HEAT will lol because of m deployment, i kno what baked pork chops feel like.

[anthony9thompson]

Show me positive comments from soldiers that have discharged. These guys look like they are reading from a script with a dozen officers leaning over their shoulders

[WunderDoob]

I'll take a BMP, thanks.

[Squarerig]

The old Rhodesian Army had V-bottomed armoured vehicles back in the 1970's and they were all home produced.Many had wheels which blew off when mined and the US is spending milliards of dollars attempting to create something "new".Also the old Daimler DIngo from WWII with a 37mm cannon could easily reach 55-65 mph and could be driven in both directions with a rotating driver's seat.Are they all outmoded?

[douglasmacgregorTV]

@Squarerig These were make-shift vehicles to meet war crisises; the U.S. Army needs to fight and win with dominance not get-by; this means we need v-hulled and multiple bottom layered tracks that can maneuver cross-country away from roads/trails and not use protection as their crutch.

[orlock20]

The U.S. made a 95 ton tank, the T-28. It had all the armor you could possibly fit on a tank and went about 12mph. A Russian T-80 could rip a T-28 to pieces. Adding armor increases its profile, increase it's weight and decreases it's range, decreases its speed and decreases where one can operate. I'm sure the troops are willing to wait weeks if not months to see their APCs which would have to be delivered by ship instead of plane.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

The point is to field the BEST tracked tanks possible and not squander 28% of your armor potential by being on wheels. In war you also need a cavalry that is more mobile by air and cross-country mobility than the main body to seize objectives and screen ahead; Strykers are not it.

[smarzotais]

the t-28 is alot older than the t-80, the t-28 was run before the 50's. No fucking duh the t-80 would rip it apart t-80 entered service in '76. T-28 super heavy tank was a fuckin experimental tank intended to simply investigate what the extent of armor could be... it was tested in '47 and was immediatley rejected.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

He was trying to make excuses for thin-skin Strykers by saying armoring is futile which is false.

[Dominik520520]

newer stryker versions will probably have an anti rpg system blowing up rpg missiles BEFORE they are even close,about 5-7 meters away...

[douglasmacgregorTV]

APS can be applied to far better, more mobile and protected tracked platforms. What makes Strykers "kevlar coffins" is their restriction to roads/trails where land mines await them.

[mrgoodvibrations]

What a pile of sh*t, they should have upgraded the M113 or the Bradley.

[dejawolf]

GAAAVINHH gavin gavin gavin gavin gavin GAAAHHVVVHHVAAVHH.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

An up-armored MTVL would not only be cross-country mobile, it would have multiple armor layering to include v-hull shaping 28% greater than any wheeled vehicle like a Stryker can have.

[daveme7]

In my ignorance not sure if that is feasible as many times in Yakima in a FMTV with the amount of crap I packed into my supply truck-eventually got left behind on the trip there and back because of coms and I knew where I was going. I'm sure if they soup up the engine maybe not and at least in an FMTV I could go cross country but could not keep up with the strykers as tje shock systems were not as good and eventually you have to figure out did I roll it or just go down another ditch-Emme

[douglasmacgregorTV]

@daveme7 Engine power will not solve high ground pressure from narrow tires that mire vehicles in soft ground.

[daveme7]

I did google what you listed and took me right to the FMTV family of vehicles so if I got the exact wrong vehicle and is some super wonder vehicle-please excuse my ignorance-been retired for about 4 years now. Where has the time gone and how did I ever get blown the 'f up. Still cant wrap my head around that-Emme or emmis if you knew me.

[leadman1979]

I would replace them with a medium tank based on the Merkava concept.

[ECWUSA1995]

"The heavier the armor the better", AMEN

[douglasmacgregorTV]

Soldiers now realize Strykers are "Kevlar Coffins" just as we have warned all along. Just imagine all the things we will realize the hard way by tragedy since we refuse to think ahead based on facts and past combat experience!

[rentnation]

"TRY NEW STRYKER!" "Now with Tinsel" "Guaranteed to stop really big birds and rocks.... and stuff!" Birdcage?

"Your mileage may vary with birds toting real RPG's."

"I walked away from the incident with ROUTINE INJURIES?"

Injury is routine aboard Strykers!

There is an idiot blog out there about "28 Strykers lost since July and ONLY one soldier has been killed with each bus."

19 tons! M 41's took out t-54s. Nam

Maybe the Stryker is the birdcage and the soldiers inside are the birds?

[sirstikay69]

"Routine Injuries" is a term used by all US military forces, they refer to simple bumps, bruises, cuts, and other non-serious injuries.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

Bureaucrats who are getting paid-off by post-retirement jobs with GDLS are quick to use any verbage to hide the truth that their cash cow is killing our troops.

[rentnation]

19 tons won't go on a c-131 unless it's going to a birthday party.

Options Chaffee, PZKW 3?

How about a Taiwanese upgraded Walker Bulldog?

The Bulldog knocked out T-54s during Lam Son 719. Weight at that time 23 tons. Put band tracks on a b-dog, use lots of kevlar and composite stuff, and you should be able to have a real tank. Rather than a camo-six wheeled-overloaded school bus. By the way, read the report of the loss of a Stryker that happened while you enjoyed yer Thanksgiving:(

[gunmonkey1185]

Tracked vehicle can go places that wheeled vehicle will not. However, the weight of tracked versus is what Army sold to politician that okay the purchase. Sad but true

[douglasmacgregorTV]

We have tracked vehicles that are lighter than Strykers and better protected in addition to being more mobile, go figure.

[nihilist66]

If a vehicle is tracked and it does go on roads, it the downside the tracks where out faster on hardend surfaces? Why was there so much push back and insistance on wheeled vehicles? Realize i have spent 16 in light infantry....

[douglasmacgregorTV]

Remember steel tracks have rubber pads so they wear out faster on hard roads and need replacing more often but you will get the full 5-10, 000 miles from your tracks; your rubber tire can pop at any time so several thousand miles is not guaranteed. The generals could claim saving money on wheels but get billions from Congress to buy them, now we are constantly replacing tires!

[knightpremier]

Goodyear and Michelin say thank you American taxpayer, for your unwilling support!

[douglasmacgregorTV]

Ever CSA of the Army wants to do something different to make a name for himself and tends to undo any good the previous one did. This is an invitation to undo whatever is already good in the Army, in this case tracked mobility, firepower and protection that just needed a medium-weight form in a combined-arms team

[cr9527]

mobility.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

Mobility must be off-road and able to advance in the face of enemy fires; the Stryker can do neither.

[azz578]

I agree. "less troops with more electronics and more mobile vehicles". The Government plans to increase the size of the army, and keep all the current MBT's. Suddenly every ones' seen sense and realised APS would buckle such light vehicles. Ironic no? Imbeciles. Its easy to get caught up in all this "revolutionary" nonsense.

[moisesfermin]

So where is the ultimate and nearly invincible combat vehicle? The MRAP? I don't think anyone will ever see this fantasy combat vehicle of the future.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

We have not fielded the best tracked combat vehicle possible which will be 28% better protected than any wheeled vehicle in addition to being cross-country mobile. Until then, don't even bring up "invincible" when we haven't done what's now possible.

[PorkIsHalal]

The idea of a mobile brigade doctrine was good but the execution was flawed.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

We have not fielded the best tracked combat vehicle possible which will be 28% better protected than any wheeled vehicle in addition to being cross-country mobile. We should transfer all Strykers to MP units and replace with upgraded tracks.

[ccr5cxcr4]

Yeah, they said the exact same kinds of things about the Bradley in the early 80's. People who don't know what they are talking about, and don't understand what the vehicle is intended for.

Combat always identifies weaknesses, and then you refine the vehicle.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

LTC Burton USAF insisted the Army take the center fuel tanks out of the Bradley, the Army refused and now we have hundreds of Soldiers dead and burned horribly.

So do not lecture to me young man about vehicle design nor about intended uses somehow making fatally unsound flaws ok, when they are clearly not.

Was the Stryker intended to go up and down roads making American casualties?

[douglasmacgregorTV]

The wheeled Stryker cannot be made cross-country mobile like tracks. There is no fix or "refinement here".

[totticommando07]

The opinion of the soldiers that matter NOT the fucking desk jockeys.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

The sad fact is that Soldiers suffering with bad equipment and tactics can also romanticize and make excuses for their plight lest their sacrifice be seen as in vain. Someone once said those not involved cannot see the pain, and those involved, that's all they see.

[frizenfreeze]

its simple, if the army doesn't buy their equipments from within the country, all there get is countless senate enquiries, suings from the weapons makers which in the end, they have no choice but to buy from them and make their own soldiers suffer the consequences while at the same time singing its praises.... which is why the us army is soooo poorly equipped even though its a 4th generation army

[Makaveli331]

More weapons to murder, how impressive !

[douglasmacgregorTV]

If weapons smother conflict by efficiency, the war racket can be curtailed. Be suspicious of weapons and strategems that are deliberately weak that prolong conflict.

[Makaveli331]

more weapons to kill, how impressive!

[afferch]

Never get anyone in the military on camera for an honest opinion. They know who the boss, is and what the repercussions are.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

I give my honest opinion, always. Don't give up on us yet.

[symmetry08]

Make rear track version w/ front steering wheels. It will be faster than tank but heavy enough to have good armors. Remember german armored vehicles in combination of track and wheel.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

The problem with half-tracks is that their front wheels plow into the soil and mire the whole vehicle. Compared to all wheels; much better, but still not as good as all-tracks.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

The Canadians who build wheeled LAV-III/Strykers are telling us to instead take TRACKED TANKS to Afghanistan! If they can wake up, what's our excuse?

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[Jordan22473]

LOL cant stop RPG try a shaped charge. I agree weels belong in the reer.

[DKMBismarck]

Remind me where does all the weight went? How is stryker weight so much more than LAVs and Piranha?

[DKMBismarck]

.US army not always looking for new stuff, like how they stick to the M-6/M4 rifle. despite The M4 suffered far more stoppages (882/60,000 rounds) than 116 stoppages of XM8 (H&K), FN SCAR with 226 stoppages and the HK416 with 233.

[douglasmacgregorTV]

A gas piston system for the M16/M4 will solve most of its reliability problems at affordable costs...we have more important things to purchase than new popguns...

[douglasmacgregorTV]

The Stryker hasn't gotten any better since we began to have our Soldiers drive up and down roads and get blown up.

[macmarine]

The Stryker is IMHO the only 21st century designed APC that can actually be brought down by small arms fire. 'Nuff said!

[veronicadredd22]

These guys are just pissed that thay are made in canada,

[Spartan043]

Tracks will always be better than wheels for combat vehicles. Period.

[HELISTRYKER]

yes he is

[Stretedge]

wolf blitzer is a nazi!

[douglasmacgregorTV]

Reporting the truth here that the Stryker is a bad vehicle.

[muir020]

The only problem wth the Stryker is that its not used for the conditions that it was built for, its a lightly armoured fighting vehicle. not a tank.