Cellos were amazing :D even though I'm a viola player. I'm playing this song in a Middle School quartet, and we're not quite good as these people... :P
@jfichter69 , im a hendrix fan an i thought of hendrix when i saw this , similar passion and soul, your to busy comparing the two to see any similarity whatsoever, and bet hendrix would been amazing at any of the intruments.
Saying beethoven was deaf is like saying Nietzsche was mad,....they weren't like that all the time, it's just something that happened near the end of their lives.
Out of 313 measures, I count 102 statements of the first measure, in one form or another, not counting the repeat (but counting the recap). That's funny. Hooray for motivic extension!
As one matures one gains an appreciation for what truly beautiful music is. Many don't make it through the stages of their youth where all that crap is fostered upon them. They lead their lives without gaining an appreciation for what true music and musicians are capable of producing. That is their loss.
@SNDBDGR I find this piece very difficult. I going to say. If anyone who finds this piece "Easy" Your Ensamble did not play it very well. That goes for anyone! Beethoven is one composer who writes very difficult music.
strings are one dimensional filaments of energy vibrating at different modes which gives rise to the different particles which make up matter in the universe.
@TheSingingCello i don't think you understand my random, scientific comment. you might want to research string theory first before commenting again. thank you.
@henf5671 I know about string theory, realities manifest according to osculating vibrations and harmonies, the physical manifestation of events and objects are held in place by the mixing and matching of these different waves and vibrations.... the inner workings are the supposed "strings" as postulated by 'string theory', they are in a very similar sense, like the strings beethoven uses to create his 'world of music, and can be held to the same degree possible in terms of 'novelty' *continued*
@TheSingingCello and 'experience' as expressed by our forms of consciousness, I.e the feeling of a passing breeze, the simple fluxuations in our tones and expressions in passing conversations with others, the feeling of new love.... the idea applies to it all in forms of this creation coming into play through the harmonies of these strings..... I know about string theory, but what I'm saying is listen to what the tree's have to say, they tell a different story!
Ahhhh I remember playing this piece it was so much fun! Also to join in on the debate on who gets what in a quartet, that all really depends on the composer in this piece the violin and cello have a back and forth thing going on while the viola and second violin support and ad contrast to what is going on but this is definitely not true for every piece of music for quartet.
of course music of the classical period was very often written with most of the themes being interpretated by the first violin and the inside voices have a lot to accompaign , but also here, to say its boring to play is just an ego thing ,cause in the end it doesnt matter who is playing what, it is the quality of the whole which is importent... later on the 4 parts are getting equally attention (i.e. debussy ,ravel etc..)
It is not a question of who is more dominant or more importent because thats not the point in a string quartet. all four instruments are equally importent in order to form in the end the whole ensemble and to make the music live.
I really don't understand what all of the conversation over the melody parts are about..... I am a violist, and I've played songs where each part gets the melondy, aven doublebass and some songs where only the first violins get the melody. The violists usually play what some call "boring" notes but I take joy in each wonderful sound a harmony makes....shouldn't we all?
are you kidding? the cello almost never gets the melody. I know because I am a cellist and I listen to the violas to my right and in a lot of orchestral and chamber works the viola has a way more dominant role to play.
@atirisdes thats very debatable. did he bring about a new era of music? beethoven was basically the bridge from the classical period to the romantic era. bach didnt have much influence on anything. im not denying hes amazing, but beethoven is more influential
@quickshots11 bach influenced beethoven by his fugues (which he wrote the grosse fugue later on from studying bachs well tempered clavier) also because Bach wrote much chorales and ceremonial music including mathaus passion, Beethoven had rediscovered the Dorian had it not been for Bach. plus Bach's rediscovery had not only helped influence beethoven heavily, but also people like Mendelssohn, and those who came after. Bach's rediscovery influenced everytime during this time.
Your part is not boring.It is part of a harmony.Listen to the framework which VIOLA is a PART of .Then you will feel the collective joy of being in a quartet.Apianist never thinks oh that line in the harmony is boring .You must feel it as a part of the whole.pianists spend their whole lives learning how to voice lines .You are lucky since you play only one line you can make perfection as you are a part. See it this way : you are not a soloist in a quartet.
@lovesGenet First, the cello and first violin simply have more interesting parts :P Just listen to them! Second, a pianist DOES think that a line in the harmony is boring sometimes. There are times where the left hand part is simply uninteresting and repeats OVER and OVER. This is generally because the composition itself is written in an uninteresting way, but there are times where there is a beautiful melody over a DULL accompaniment.
To be fair, Beethoven is nice to the viola (see Razumovsky)
@lovesGenet - you make a good point... i play viola and a lot of times i really like how my part fits into the harmony of the piece in its entirety. however, i must say that as far as interesting lines go, often harmony isnt that entertaining, not on its own. and to perfect it, you have to practice... frankly, thats when the boredom makes itself known, as you don't necessarily have the other parts with you then. O.o
@jfoges4 The Opus number is like a catalog number, it uniquely identifies the work of the particular composer. Opus numbers are not used for all composers, but it's sure handy when they are.
I think people need to stop hating on all of the instruments in an orchestra. Violas, violins, cellos, contrabass... They're all beast, so just chill people.
noted. when i say arrangement of sounds, im talking about music in general. the notes are only sounds put together in certain ways to get a specific emotional response from yourself or your listeners. its only music. although genius, and completely groundbreaking.
quit making it more complicated than it is. It is a piece of music. The history is important. But it seems that you lose touch with the music by focusing on history. Listen to the piece. An arrangement of sounds that are appealing to you. That is all that music is. Im pretty sure Beethoven wouldn't care that you know all of these historical details.
not necessarily true. if you've ever taken a theory class, you know that there is a huge amount of structure that is included into the music. it's not just an arrangement of sounds at all. also, the history is extremely important, because music has evolved SO much from the time even this piece was written. if you want an authentic interpretation of the piece, it's necessary to know the history behind it and why it was written to get the right emotions out of it.
Awesome! What else can someone say with MORE than two brain cells to rub together! Awesome, clena, precise, beautiful performance! (And it's only the first movement!)
For string quartet lovers, going to a concert with a world class quartet such as the Alban Berg is the ultimate musical experience. This instrumentation may have the most masterpieces that take the listener into the richest and most profound listening experiences. Sure, big symphonies and operas can do this as well. However, what's unique in string quartets is that listeners can here every liune, every note at all times - virtually nothing is lost. What a performance here.
This is some really great chamber music. I welcome criticism, but some of these comments aren't making any sense whatsoever. Body language isn't what makes or breaks the connection between performer and audience imo.
I agree. They played it well. But they seemed detached from the audience because of the way they were hunching over. It was almost like they were playing for the floor and not the actual audience.
In the modern context yes, but music like this speaks for itself. "Nobody comes to see them anymore" because this generation has ADD and can't find an interest in music that isn't repetitive
Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron? If this generation does, as you state, have ADD wouldn't the ever changing and evolving nature of classical pieces, such as this string quartet, hold their attention? ADD is a disorder of not being able to pay attention, and I would assume that something repetitive would not hold ones attention if one was, indeed, ADD.
Haha fair point; I was thinking of ADHD sorry, with respect to one avoiding something that takes more mental effort and discarding it by calling it "boring" (ironically).
I'm trying not to be a snob (each to their own an' all that), but classical music is often an acquired taste, and if someone writes it off instantly because it's "boring" then they've gotta have a short attention span.
my music history teacher compared it to caviar. he said rich people are always trying to find a way to set themselves aside from "lessers" by taking something disgusting and pretending to like it, just like caviar. If you've ever had caviar, he says, its nasty unless you spend $1000 a bottle. Classical music is inaccessible to the uneducated person (usually) and so it will never be popular. It takes too much effort to learn to enjoy. (but I learned to enjoy it by taking Dr. Allen's class!!!!)
A nice point, but I believe the idea that classical music can only be enjoyed by force is a poor one. I don't believe I'm superior to non-listeners, infact the 'aristocratic' quality that surrounded it put me off at first. But it needs patience like you said. I can understand if someone doesn't like it, but writing the past 19+ centuries of music because it's 'boring' seems unfair, it's a hugely varied genre.
Like I said, there are exceptions. And I'm not saying everyone who listens to classical music is aristocratic. I certainly am not. But Mozart and Hayden (even Beethoven until his 3rd) worked to please aristocratic patrons. Beethoven relied on patrons as well. The music is typically lengthy (compared to 2-3 minute pop songs, and we're not talking lieder here) and you can never appreciate classical music for its full value unless you put effort forth to understand the music. Sure you can say...
surely the act of actually listening to the music and engaging, rather than treating it as a backcloth to our "more pressing" tasks is completely alien to our society. You are right, the sheer sum of common-practice music takes more effort, but all things of quality take effort, and we should not dismiss them on those grounds. And the metaphor of caviar is corrupt: caviar is of itself, it is not created for interpretation, whereas music can be enjoyed at all levels.
"I love Verdi's The Barber of Seville". Everyone knows that theme. Same with Carmen or Die Wulkure. We know some themes, but those are appreciated as simple catchy melodies, not complex emotional mechanisms or psychological tools and expressions. And by the way, if I'm understanding what your last sentence meant, there is no way in HELL that there are "19+ centuries" of classical music. Classical music started with Mozart and Hayden. IF you include Baroque music, that starts around 1700...
sorry, 1600...So what, that leaves us with 5 centuries of "Classical" music (Baroque, Classical, Romantic, Contemporary)? Not even close to 19. and Pre-Baroque music can in no way be considered "Classical" in this sense. Much Baroque music didn't even use the instruments its performed on today (such as the violin. the instrument was different when the music was written).
I regard the voice as an acoustic instrument, the definition of classical. I stretched the term back to include Plainsong as well. You're right, I over counted (probably 15 centuries using my definition).
These artists through their talent, dedication, and intelligence connect with their audience in a far deeper way than the superficiality of say a Vegas performer crying cosmetic tears on cue and entertaining the 'folks' that enjoy that sortve thing, Not that there is anything wrong with that but you misunderstand the relationship taking place and the fundamental difference between art and mere entertainment.
woa! people! i am a violist and i know that the parts are boring. but we are the foundation for chamber because the cello gets the melody most of the time! all parts do the same thing... produce amazing sound. violas and violins may not be compared!
It isn't one huge cello solo, just the cello opens the first and third with solos. It's mainly the first violin but the second and viola parts aren't boring either.
The Mozart Prussian quartets also have big cello parts.
@ViolasPWNall wow really, not to be mean but that is not a true statement, being a cello player i would know, we most definatly DO NOT get the melody most of the time. And we are the foundation sice we almost always have the base line. Violas usually have a harmony part with the cello.
One learns viola because they appreciate tone, delicacy, expression, beauty, and being in the middle of the orchestral or chamber texture. One learns violin because on is made to, or because one enjoys making horrible screeching sounds, or because one likes to show off (or, occasionally, because one actually wants to).
Cellos were amazing :D even though I'm a viola player. I'm playing this song in a Middle School quartet, and we're not quite good as these people... :P
goawayanddontcomebac 1 week ago
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mcrettable 1 week ago
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TheMillersTale2001 2 weeks ago
one of the few violas i dont want to burn..
AnonIndie101 2 weeks ago
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AnonIndie101 2 weeks ago
such a veteran players....
anythingunderthesun4 3 weeks ago
The violist is fantastic!
TheTommychafe 3 weeks ago
i listen to avenged sevenfold, lamb of god, metallica, job for a cowboy, all that remains, and beethoven. WIN
andrewjkjordan 1 month ago
Way to focus all the attention on the violins. The viola and cello have little solos that are really important.
roo34g 2 months ago
@roo34g all 4 instruments come together to make 1
mcrettable 1 week ago
I always scares me to think that this was the first string quartet Beethoven published. To begin with such a masterpiece...
Indiemusicianstube 2 months ago
@Indiemusicianstube Well he was/is the greatest composer who ever lived
mcrettable 1 week ago
i need a legit reason why you press the dislike button or i call you an idiot
topiaz951 2 months ago
Wonderful. Well I compose my first string quartet. See in my chanel:
/watch?v=bGOuOefQc8E
tiago3m 3 months ago
the chemistry is amazing.......
waterbuggg 3 months ago
Uma pena ter acabado...
oliveira130394 3 months ago
for some reason when I watch this i think of Jimmy Hendricks
trailertrashrnr 3 months ago
@trailertrashrnr you think of how insignificant he is compared to these guys? :-D
jfichter69 2 months ago in playlist Classical
@jfichter69 these gentelmen are wonderful but that does not justify calling Jimi Hendrix insignificant. lets all be respectful to one another.
frescablackbelt13 2 months ago 3
@jfichter69 , im a hendrix fan an i thought of hendrix when i saw this , similar passion and soul, your to busy comparing the two to see any similarity whatsoever, and bet hendrix would been amazing at any of the intruments.
thedugpar6 2 months ago
@jfichter69 no, just the passion and focus
trailertrashrnr 2 months ago
The Cellist is superb.
iCIRCOS 3 months ago
That video is friken amazing! Wow!
hahungdung240189 4 months ago
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i love this!
WafiOfficial 4 months ago
:) gimme more!
nicetvchannel49 4 months ago
sweet perfection. anybody see a metronome?
igno93 4 months ago
@igno93 I don't see one, I think they're just that well practiced so that they don't need one.
Also, having a metronome would stop them from doing some of the great tempo changes! :)
PYates77 3 months ago
do you all see that viola beast!!!! that is gonna be me someday :)
LUaKMa2 4 months ago
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MoverMontanaArtist 5 months ago
As a classical music connaisseur you're supposed to love the late quartets the most
but the six opus 18 quartets are my favorites.
keesvangulik127 6 months ago
@keesvangulik127 as a person, you're supposed to love everything your heart wants to
palmomki 4 months ago
EPIC
thanoulijonroth 7 months ago
Saying beethoven was deaf is like saying Nietzsche was mad,....they weren't like that all the time, it's just something that happened near the end of their lives.
amrhima 7 months ago
epicness starts at 0:33
kliu95 8 months ago
nicely done
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rkotcher 8 months ago
What year did this take place?
Coppaempire 10 months ago
I love music revision.
shadowfirecheese 10 months ago 8
Cello could kick auto tune's ass.
miwriplaysbass 10 months ago
Brilliant. See my first original string quartet, i apreciate your comments. /watch?v=D0cXbb-DRd4
tiago3m 10 months ago
See my quartet composition, i will apreciate your comnents
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tiago3m 10 months ago
brilliant! hey people, what do you think about my first string quartet? /watch?v=ZOCjSdKr2zg
tiago3m 10 months ago
Out of 313 measures, I count 102 statements of the first measure, in one form or another, not counting the repeat (but counting the recap). That's funny. Hooray for motivic extension!
Fcroaonlk 10 months ago
i guess i'm in love with their cellist...........
StupidFoolLady 10 months ago
Most beautifully performed, thanks for sharing. I call it a perfect Beethoven quartet.
LordMSh 10 months ago
As one matures one gains an appreciation for what truly beautiful music is. Many don't make it through the stages of their youth where all that crap is fostered upon them. They lead their lives without gaining an appreciation for what true music and musicians are capable of producing. That is their loss.
RCTPatriot75 10 months ago
ha i played this when i was in junior high...forgot who wrote this peice it was sooo easy
SNDBDGR 10 months ago
@SNDBDGR I find this piece very difficult. I going to say. If anyone who finds this piece "Easy" Your Ensamble did not play it very well. That goes for anyone! Beethoven is one composer who writes very difficult music.
YNGVIRTUOSOVIOLIST 10 months ago
@YNGVIRTUOSOVIOLIST ...pshh difficult for a 3 year old.
SNDBDGR 10 months ago
@SNDBDGR like is said, you are not mature and you probably that good.
YNGVIRTUOSOVIOLIST 10 months ago
@YNGVIRTUOSOVIOLIST I take that back, I really don't have time for things like that. I wish you luck!
YNGVIRTUOSOVIOLIST 10 months ago
@YNGVIRTUOSOVIOLIST mabe you should learn how to type.
SNDBDGR 10 months ago
ha i played this when i was junior high...forgot who wrote this peice it was sooo easy
SNDBDGR 10 months ago
wow ur dumb, what is it doing.
meaning what is it trying to express.
30inventionman 11 months ago
Sublime! FANTASTIC!!!!
daxdax500 11 months ago
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NORMALisSooOVERRATED 11 months ago
what is the viola doing?
30inventionman 11 months ago
@30inventionman
You can't hear the viola?Then it means ur a 3rd hand musician.The group is awesome,and i love they'r instruments.Q_Q
Seitong19 11 months ago
@Seitong19 pshh yea i cant believe you cant hear the viola.... i can pick out the viola with my eyes closed.
SNDBDGR 10 months ago
I saw one of their last concerts at the Philharmonie Berlin. A brillant and unforgettable quartet!!
WeisserAlarm 1 year ago
BRAVO!!!!
StupidFoolLady 1 year ago
I love this Quartet.
jonesdarrel 1 year ago
strings are one dimensional filaments of energy vibrating at different modes which gives rise to the different particles which make up matter in the universe.
henf5671 1 year ago
@henf5671 listen to what the tree's have to say, they tell a different story.
TheSingingCello 1 year ago
@TheSingingCello i don't think you understand my random, scientific comment. you might want to research string theory first before commenting again. thank you.
henf5671 1 year ago
@henf5671 I know about string theory, realities manifest according to osculating vibrations and harmonies, the physical manifestation of events and objects are held in place by the mixing and matching of these different waves and vibrations.... the inner workings are the supposed "strings" as postulated by 'string theory', they are in a very similar sense, like the strings beethoven uses to create his 'world of music, and can be held to the same degree possible in terms of 'novelty' *continued*
TheSingingCello 1 year ago
@TheSingingCello and 'experience' as expressed by our forms of consciousness, I.e the feeling of a passing breeze, the simple fluxuations in our tones and expressions in passing conversations with others, the feeling of new love.... the idea applies to it all in forms of this creation coming into play through the harmonies of these strings..... I know about string theory, but what I'm saying is listen to what the tree's have to say, they tell a different story!
TheSingingCello 1 year ago
i sooooooo love this piece :)
amatztoh 1 year ago
Abdul Galib Khan Loves this
nazmulali1992 1 year ago
I have to base my music composition in class on a string quartet. :-| Wish me luck guys, lol.
TheSvRQueen 1 year ago
Ahhhh I remember playing this piece it was so much fun! Also to join in on the debate on who gets what in a quartet, that all really depends on the composer in this piece the violin and cello have a back and forth thing going on while the viola and second violin support and ad contrast to what is going on but this is definitely not true for every piece of music for quartet.
stauwi13 1 year ago
fantastic
gutlover33uk 1 year ago
takes all four players to create such a wonderful piece of music. I enjoy each instrument!
BobbyFlat 1 year ago
of course music of the classical period was very often written with most of the themes being interpretated by the first violin and the inside voices have a lot to accompaign , but also here, to say its boring to play is just an ego thing ,cause in the end it doesnt matter who is playing what, it is the quality of the whole which is importent... later on the 4 parts are getting equally attention (i.e. debussy ,ravel etc..)
Narlune 1 year ago
It is not a question of who is more dominant or more importent because thats not the point in a string quartet. all four instruments are equally importent in order to form in the end the whole ensemble and to make the music live.
Narlune 1 year ago 13
I really don't understand what all of the conversation over the melody parts are about..... I am a violist, and I've played songs where each part gets the melondy, aven doublebass and some songs where only the first violins get the melody. The violists usually play what some call "boring" notes but I take joy in each wonderful sound a harmony makes....shouldn't we all?
TheRiah911 1 year ago
you smoke a joint and listen to this shit,its fantastic
MeganMcGraw 1 year ago 3
@MeganMcGraw Yeah! Smoke it and listen to Classical!!!!
conde19745 1 year ago
I play both violin and viola equally well. In an ensemble, without the viola, the violin is just a melody.
azntanan 1 year ago
7 people are deaf!
ZaraGlaser 1 year ago
are you kidding? the cello almost never gets the melody. I know because I am a cellist and I listen to the violas to my right and in a lot of orchestral and chamber works the viola has a way more dominant role to play.
Sahara101010 1 year ago
Are you kidding me? The cello almost never gets the melody.
Sahara101010 1 year ago
@Sahara101010 The violins always have a more dominant role.
ZaraGlaser 1 year ago
@ZaraGlaser all roles have a dominant role, if not why did beethoven right four parts?
shortmexican6494 1 year ago
Beethoven in a jolly mood, thanks nice recording.
Paxtoranious 1 year ago
it really IS a different language...wow
mangagrl01 1 year ago
7 people are deaf
mangagrl01 1 year ago
@mangagrl01
Beethoven was deaf
QwertyAzerty2009 7 months ago
Yeah? I don't see any movies about St. Bernards named "Bach." :-P
anredenwill 1 year ago
i love this piece so much. im playing this with my quartet
quickshots11 1 year ago
you only say something is boring because you are not really LISTENING to it. listen to the silence, you'll hear.
waterglass016 1 year ago
I play the viola and u guys r good!!!!!!!
Im only a kid though.
ememsade1 1 year ago
cellist is playing the part at 2:00 an octave lower. best recording though. hands down.
2856972 1 year ago
this guy was named after a vehicle. amazing
atirisdes 1 year ago
@atirisdes "this guy" is the most influential composer of all time. so id watch yourself if i were u
quickshots11 1 year ago
@quickshots11 bach is more influential moron
atirisdes 1 year ago
@atirisdes thats very debatable. did he bring about a new era of music? beethoven was basically the bridge from the classical period to the romantic era. bach didnt have much influence on anything. im not denying hes amazing, but beethoven is more influential
quickshots11 1 year ago
@quickshots11 "bach didnt have much influence on anything" LOLOLOLOLOL
atirisdes 1 year ago
@quickshots11 bach influenced beethoven by his fugues (which he wrote the grosse fugue later on from studying bachs well tempered clavier) also because Bach wrote much chorales and ceremonial music including mathaus passion, Beethoven had rediscovered the Dorian had it not been for Bach. plus Bach's rediscovery had not only helped influence beethoven heavily, but also people like Mendelssohn, and those who came after. Bach's rediscovery influenced everytime during this time.
Igneous01 1 year ago
well done. seeing the 1st violinists beard made me realize zach galifinakis should be in chamber music.
RickLectums 1 year ago 2
Your part is not boring.It is part of a harmony.Listen to the framework which VIOLA is a PART of .Then you will feel the collective joy of being in a quartet.Apianist never thinks oh that line in the harmony is boring .You must feel it as a part of the whole.pianists spend their whole lives learning how to voice lines .You are lucky since you play only one line you can make perfection as you are a part. See it this way : you are not a soloist in a quartet.
lovesGenet 1 year ago 31
@lovesGenet First, the cello and first violin simply have more interesting parts :P Just listen to them! Second, a pianist DOES think that a line in the harmony is boring sometimes. There are times where the left hand part is simply uninteresting and repeats OVER and OVER. This is generally because the composition itself is written in an uninteresting way, but there are times where there is a beautiful melody over a DULL accompaniment.
To be fair, Beethoven is nice to the viola (see Razumovsky)
throwscats 9 months ago
@lovesGenet - you make a good point... i play viola and a lot of times i really like how my part fits into the harmony of the piece in its entirety. however, i must say that as far as interesting lines go, often harmony isnt that entertaining, not on its own. and to perfect it, you have to practice... frankly, thats when the boredom makes itself known, as you don't necessarily have the other parts with you then. O.o
icefirecat 8 months ago
what does the Op.18 mean?
jfoges4 1 year ago
@jfoges4 The Opus number is like a catalog number, it uniquely identifies the work of the particular composer. Opus numbers are not used for all composers, but it's sure handy when they are.
tml4873 1 year ago
@jfoges4 it's the number of composers' works in chronological order.
ctimur 1 year ago
@jfoges4 it means nothing. its only some shit gay people put besides classical titles to feel they listen to superior music
atirisdes 1 year ago
I think people need to stop hating on all of the instruments in an orchestra. Violas, violins, cellos, contrabass... They're all beast, so just chill people.
tegansan 1 year ago 62
@tegansan...wow you really know how to make peace.
SNDBDGR 10 months ago
@tegansan
ehehehe ???????????
menusis 9 months ago
amazing simply astonishing nothing short of enchanting
silentfox87 1 year ago
Does anyone know where on youtube I can find a really nice performance of the Beethoven quartet op 18 no 2???
NiceVideos11 1 year ago
Amazing music...BTW, is it true the whole thing is 7 MVT? Can someone tell me a place where they have all 7 at once or is it to long?
Jediman2000 1 year ago
noted. when i say arrangement of sounds, im talking about music in general. the notes are only sounds put together in certain ways to get a specific emotional response from yourself or your listeners. its only music. although genius, and completely groundbreaking.
clammyrobin 1 year ago
quit making it more complicated than it is. It is a piece of music. The history is important. But it seems that you lose touch with the music by focusing on history. Listen to the piece. An arrangement of sounds that are appealing to you. That is all that music is. Im pretty sure Beethoven wouldn't care that you know all of these historical details.
clammyrobin 1 year ago
not necessarily true. if you've ever taken a theory class, you know that there is a huge amount of structure that is included into the music. it's not just an arrangement of sounds at all. also, the history is extremely important, because music has evolved SO much from the time even this piece was written. if you want an authentic interpretation of the piece, it's necessary to know the history behind it and why it was written to get the right emotions out of it.
MotherFan12 1 year ago
Very very pretty
oxvalentineox 1 year ago
this reminded me tchaikovsky violin concertı a bit
sinancans 1 year ago
Awesome! What else can someone say with MORE than two brain cells to rub together! Awesome, clena, precise, beautiful performance! (And it's only the first movement!)
RunWalkRace 2 years ago 3
I play viola but 2:38-2:46 is my favorite cello line in this quartet. very nice interpretation very clean and simple which is always good.
violaplayer1995 2 years ago
I love this piece. It's just so unique and full of character! I can't think of another piece that's quite like it.
Paradise737 2 years ago
For string quartet lovers, going to a concert with a world class quartet such as the Alban Berg is the ultimate musical experience. This instrumentation may have the most masterpieces that take the listener into the richest and most profound listening experiences. Sure, big symphonies and operas can do this as well. However, what's unique in string quartets is that listeners can here every liune, every note at all times - virtually nothing is lost. What a performance here.
PIanoReview 2 years ago
danke
yuehchopin 2 years ago
Great!
alsantu1 2 years ago
Always room in the heart strings for some beethoven
imeanbean 2 years ago
I was talking to DustinHahnMusic ...
PianomanBRJ 2 years ago
This is some really great chamber music. I welcome criticism, but some of these comments aren't making any sense whatsoever. Body language isn't what makes or breaks the connection between performer and audience imo.
evil2salad 2 years ago
prenádherné.....:) i like this :)
kokorunecka 2 years ago
Fantastic I"m jealous!
chn0205 2 years ago
Very good !
estudantedeviolino 2 years ago
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their stands should be higher but besides that....... Excelent
tortallini96 2 years ago
well its usually up to the performer, when playing chamber music its best to be able to make eye contact with the other performers
xXLeafXNinjaXx 2 years ago
I agree. They played it well. But they seemed detached from the audience because of the way they were hunching over. It was almost like they were playing for the floor and not the actual audience.
DustinHahnMusic 2 years ago
what are you talking about...? This isn't American Idol!
PianomanBRJ 2 years ago
What does American Idol have to do with anything?
DustinHahnMusic 2 years ago
Who cares about the audience, it's for the music, the audience just happen to be there.
danohrly 2 years ago
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drumfreak66 2 years ago
In the modern context yes, but music like this speaks for itself. "Nobody comes to see them anymore" because this generation has ADD and can't find an interest in music that isn't repetitive
danohrly 2 years ago
Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron? If this generation does, as you state, have ADD wouldn't the ever changing and evolving nature of classical pieces, such as this string quartet, hold their attention? ADD is a disorder of not being able to pay attention, and I would assume that something repetitive would not hold ones attention if one was, indeed, ADD.
jimmihshs 2 years ago
Haha fair point; I was thinking of ADHD sorry, with respect to one avoiding something that takes more mental effort and discarding it by calling it "boring" (ironically).
I'm trying not to be a snob (each to their own an' all that), but classical music is often an acquired taste, and if someone writes it off instantly because it's "boring" then they've gotta have a short attention span.
danohrly 2 years ago
my music history teacher compared it to caviar. he said rich people are always trying to find a way to set themselves aside from "lessers" by taking something disgusting and pretending to like it, just like caviar. If you've ever had caviar, he says, its nasty unless you spend $1000 a bottle. Classical music is inaccessible to the uneducated person (usually) and so it will never be popular. It takes too much effort to learn to enjoy. (but I learned to enjoy it by taking Dr. Allen's class!!!!)
lurxtlifeson 2 years ago
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danohrly 2 years ago
A nice point, but I believe the idea that classical music can only be enjoyed by force is a poor one. I don't believe I'm superior to non-listeners, infact the 'aristocratic' quality that surrounded it put me off at first. But it needs patience like you said. I can understand if someone doesn't like it, but writing the past 19+ centuries of music because it's 'boring' seems unfair, it's a hugely varied genre.
danohrly 2 years ago 2
Like I said, there are exceptions. And I'm not saying everyone who listens to classical music is aristocratic. I certainly am not. But Mozart and Hayden (even Beethoven until his 3rd) worked to please aristocratic patrons. Beethoven relied on patrons as well. The music is typically lengthy (compared to 2-3 minute pop songs, and we're not talking lieder here) and you can never appreciate classical music for its full value unless you put effort forth to understand the music. Sure you can say...
lurxtlifeson 2 years ago
surely the act of actually listening to the music and engaging, rather than treating it as a backcloth to our "more pressing" tasks is completely alien to our society. You are right, the sheer sum of common-practice music takes more effort, but all things of quality take effort, and we should not dismiss them on those grounds. And the metaphor of caviar is corrupt: caviar is of itself, it is not created for interpretation, whereas music can be enjoyed at all levels.
deadpoeticgirl 2 years ago
"I love Verdi's The Barber of Seville". Everyone knows that theme. Same with Carmen or Die Wulkure. We know some themes, but those are appreciated as simple catchy melodies, not complex emotional mechanisms or psychological tools and expressions. And by the way, if I'm understanding what your last sentence meant, there is no way in HELL that there are "19+ centuries" of classical music. Classical music started with Mozart and Hayden. IF you include Baroque music, that starts around 1700...
lurxtlifeson 2 years ago
sorry, 1600...So what, that leaves us with 5 centuries of "Classical" music (Baroque, Classical, Romantic, Contemporary)? Not even close to 19. and Pre-Baroque music can in no way be considered "Classical" in this sense. Much Baroque music didn't even use the instruments its performed on today (such as the violin. the instrument was different when the music was written).
lurxtlifeson 2 years ago
I regard the voice as an acoustic instrument, the definition of classical. I stretched the term back to include Plainsong as well. You're right, I over counted (probably 15 centuries using my definition).
danohrly 2 years ago
dude, cavier IS nice
Eejhunator 2 years ago
These artists through their talent, dedication, and intelligence connect with their audience in a far deeper way than the superficiality of say a Vegas performer crying cosmetic tears on cue and entertaining the 'folks' that enjoy that sortve thing, Not that there is anything wrong with that but you misunderstand the relationship taking place and the fundamental difference between art and mere entertainment.
proggoth 2 years ago
one of the cleanest performances i've seen of this, very nice
neetaso 2 years ago
My percussion class is playing this on marimbas. It sounds really good! I have the lead violin part.
metalhead513 2 years ago
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cindayyyyy510 2 years ago
lol 6:03-6:09 is really fun to play in the cello part!!
SofiieeWinter 2 years ago
PRetty sure that's a violin
d0md0mt0mt0m 2 years ago
I think he means the cello part accompanying the violin
willman1107 2 years ago
This is not as well-interpreted as the Lindsay performance, but is certainly better in tune.
1violaplayr 2 years ago
oh my ..
screeching from the violin much?
still very good overall :]
S00xD 2 years ago
Anyone know what violin Mr. Pichler plays? It really has an exquisite tone.
trinity729 3 years ago
woa! people! i am a violist and i know that the parts are boring. but we are the foundation for chamber because the cello gets the melody most of the time! all parts do the same thing... produce amazing sound. violas and violins may not be compared!
ViolasPWNall 3 years ago 27
What are you playing that has cello melody? My quartet's cellist is constantly bored. Please, do tell!
1violaplayr 2 years ago
If you want cello melody go Borodin II
vyvyanos 2 years ago
I meant a generally melodic cello part, not one huge cello solo.
1violaplayr 2 years ago
It isn't one huge cello solo, just the cello opens the first and third with solos. It's mainly the first violin but the second and viola parts aren't boring either.
The Mozart Prussian quartets also have big cello parts.
vyvyanos 2 years ago
@ViolasPWNall Woah woah. Cellist here. Violins are the ones with the fun parts. :P
Dakmor123 1 year ago
@ViolasPWNall The parts aren't boring? XD
ZaraGlaser 1 year ago
@ViolasPWNall I love the parts, they're not boring at all :')
ZaraGlaser 1 year ago
@ViolasPWNall wow really, not to be mean but that is not a true statement, being a cello player i would know, we most definatly DO NOT get the melody most of the time. And we are the foundation sice we almost always have the base line. Violas usually have a harmony part with the cello.
haruhifujioka104 1 year ago
@haruhifujioka104 agreed
coolragazzo94 1 year ago
what? horrible screeching sounds? do you know what a violin is?
ladeca 3 years ago
Indeed. That is why I said that.
1violaplayr 2 years ago
One learns viola because they appreciate tone, delicacy, expression, beauty, and being in the middle of the orchestral or chamber texture. One learns violin because on is made to, or because one enjoys making horrible screeching sounds, or because one likes to show off (or, occasionally, because one actually wants to).
1violaplayr 3 years ago
LOL!!!
I agree hahahahahahaha
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