Ugh, wherever human tilts its ugly head, religion isn't far to follow. I guess you could compare Christianism during feudalism to the dominant political ideology of the day.
status is dependent on being observed and admired by the 'other,' otherwise status has no worth.... it requires 'position' and how one is positioned in comparison to others. social status means nothing to me or at least i make that effort. i desire to live in a big house, in a nice neighborhood for its comfort and aesthetic value, but i shun others in my nighborhood and position myself to be shunned, all in the name of not living up to status. i'm attracted to ppl that step-on & step-over status
but is the anxiety really worse? I think of the villages a century ago, back then the "status" or "pride" of an individual in the small society was really really important - maybe much more than now that everyone can "do what they want"
@shipcomesin That's what Alain is saying: Maybe they wanted more and cared about their pride, honor etc but they accepted their lot in life. They were just unfortunate to be born in that position in life, the mentality that they could change their stance in society was nonexistent. If you were a farmer, you were a farmer, period. If you were an aristocrat, you were a noble, period. Changing your position in a caste system is impossible, so they just accepted life and went on. IE they didn't moan
@FoggyFishburne Sure I guess that was generally the case; besides, at earlier times poor people or people of low classes had other, maybe even more important anxieties i their lives...
@shipcomesin Now THAT I could definetly agree on. Having a bad season and producing alot of bad crops isn't exactly what your lord wants to hear. Taxes no matter what, right? :P Talk about pressure..
@FoggyFishburne yeah.... but I guess every age and every person experiences different kinds of pressures... I mean, all is relative, but not all that much... You can tell a depressed western person not to worry and to think of the hard lives of poor people of say Africa, but that won't really change much I guess. Besides, the joys of life are different too and being poor is bad, but you might truly enjoy other things that a rich person in a developed country has lost forever..
@teamcrumb I guess all I was wondering about/trying to say two years ago was that anxiety about social status seems to have existed since people exist and seems to depend a lot on the individual (some people have more and some less of it). People are less bound by social rules nowadays in big cities than they were in the past in smaller societies, but certainly everyone's still full of anxiety and fear of not being good enough, I guess.
Je trouve le témoignage de cette maman très touchant, bouleversant même; mais la transition avec la séquence suivante manque de compassion: analyse that ...is you can ^^
Meritocracy rewards financially just a little fraction of people in our society. Meritocracy is made over the principle that we have all the same abilities and opportunities and this is simply not true. The fact is just the contrary: we don't have the same abilities and we don't have the same opportunities. Meritocracy is the world to legitimate those (perhaps less than 10%) who have succeed financially. Just one of many, many examples : meritocracy apply for mentally ill ???
Status Anxiety emerges today principally because of the unjust meritocratic society. Aristocratic society was not just, nor the meritocratic. The first rewarded financially almost the same families over the centuries. The meritocratic society rewards financially just a minor fraction of the population, those who have specific abilities and opportunities in life. The vast majority of people that don't have the abilities or the opportunities struggle with status anxiety.
Ugh, wherever human tilts its ugly head, religion isn't far to follow. I guess you could compare Christianism during feudalism to the dominant political ideology of the day.
Renegen1 7 months ago
@Renegen1 nope. and stop ughing at people's short comings
teamcrumb 1 week ago
@teamcrumb nothing ugly about our head
teamcrumb 1 week ago
The mindset behind dueling is very similar to the mindset behind a lot of foreign policy of govts.
Wargoat6 10 months ago
status is dependent on being observed and admired by the 'other,' otherwise status has no worth.... it requires 'position' and how one is positioned in comparison to others. social status means nothing to me or at least i make that effort. i desire to live in a big house, in a nice neighborhood for its comfort and aesthetic value, but i shun others in my nighborhood and position myself to be shunned, all in the name of not living up to status. i'm attracted to ppl that step-on & step-over status
mysticalHeir 11 months ago
In Florence in 1902 a literary man killed a cousin who accused him of not understanding Dante GROUNDS FOR TERMINATION IF YOU ASK ME
kaiserinaz 1 year ago
i would duel anyone who wants my dog! >:D
ElleFr0st 1 year ago
ah challange Ju to a DUEL !!
HLecterPHD 1 year ago
Desperate-to-be-famous American Idol contestants come to mind while watching this, many thanks for this series.
670Kiester 2 years ago 14
@670Kiester desperate for what we're all desperate for, a form of attention. why single any group of people out?
teamcrumb 1 week ago
but is the anxiety really worse? I think of the villages a century ago, back then the "status" or "pride" of an individual in the small society was really really important - maybe much more than now that everyone can "do what they want"
shipcomesin 2 years ago 8
@shipcomesin That's what Alain is saying: Maybe they wanted more and cared about their pride, honor etc but they accepted their lot in life. They were just unfortunate to be born in that position in life, the mentality that they could change their stance in society was nonexistent. If you were a farmer, you were a farmer, period. If you were an aristocrat, you were a noble, period. Changing your position in a caste system is impossible, so they just accepted life and went on. IE they didn't moan
FoggyFishburne 1 year ago
@FoggyFishburne Sure I guess that was generally the case; besides, at earlier times poor people or people of low classes had other, maybe even more important anxieties i their lives...
shipcomesin 1 year ago
@shipcomesin Now THAT I could definetly agree on. Having a bad season and producing alot of bad crops isn't exactly what your lord wants to hear. Taxes no matter what, right? :P Talk about pressure..
FoggyFishburne 1 year ago
@FoggyFishburne yeah.... but I guess every age and every person experiences different kinds of pressures... I mean, all is relative, but not all that much... You can tell a depressed western person not to worry and to think of the hard lives of poor people of say Africa, but that won't really change much I guess. Besides, the joys of life are different too and being poor is bad, but you might truly enjoy other things that a rich person in a developed country has lost forever..
shipcomesin 1 year ago
@shipcomesin who is only doing what they want to do that you know?
teamcrumb 1 week ago
@teamcrumb I guess all I was wondering about/trying to say two years ago was that anxiety about social status seems to have existed since people exist and seems to depend a lot on the individual (some people have more and some less of it). People are less bound by social rules nowadays in big cities than they were in the past in smaller societies, but certainly everyone's still full of anxiety and fear of not being good enough, I guess.
shipcomesin 1 week ago
it's what we say in Greece, "it's better to have your eye cut out than to be given a name" meaning a depraving name like loser, or slut
shipcomesin 2 years ago
Je trouve le témoignage de cette maman très touchant, bouleversant même; mais la transition avec la séquence suivante manque de compassion: analyse that ...is you can ^^
180771 3 years ago
Mais vous n'êtes pas la seule personne qui peut parler français, mon ami! And, I agree with your point.
lordaardvark2 3 years ago
Meritocracy rewards financially just a little fraction of people in our society. Meritocracy is made over the principle that we have all the same abilities and opportunities and this is simply not true. The fact is just the contrary: we don't have the same abilities and we don't have the same opportunities. Meritocracy is the world to legitimate those (perhaps less than 10%) who have succeed financially. Just one of many, many examples : meritocracy apply for mentally ill ???
edewasseige 4 years ago 2
Status Anxiety emerges today principally because of the unjust meritocratic society. Aristocratic society was not just, nor the meritocratic. The first rewarded financially almost the same families over the centuries. The meritocratic society rewards financially just a minor fraction of the population, those who have specific abilities and opportunities in life. The vast majority of people that don't have the abilities or the opportunities struggle with status anxiety.
edewasseige 4 years ago