I dont know why all the hate for Chavez jr. and all the praise for canelo when they are prety much on the same level. In fact Chavez jr. actually had to fight for his title because Zbik wasnt there just to be a punching bag. There are people actually saying canelo will be like Chavez ! I mean where do they get that from? Who knows how good he will be just like Chavez jr its not known yet. I think at this point Angulo koes both of them.
Chavez and Canelo are water down champions....Chavez is a bum no doubt about IT.....Canelo he might have something to him...but until he beats a Cotto, Martinez, Williams we will never know...
They are watered down champs...but tht fight is still a very very interesting fight IMO. But I think they will wait to long to match them against each other and one of them will lose and ruin the fight...Jus like what happened to the Gamboa/Lopez potential mega-fight...they waited too long then Lopez got Upset by Salido now that fight is a "nothing" fight
@97ruff ..well 97 it looks as though canelo is the real mothafuckin deal!! he just demolished rhodes last night..based on that ,,i really dont think he's water'd down..overhyped or whatever!...chavez jr on the other hand,is a fucking joke!
@psychoboxingfan sorry homie im still not really convince till he fights a real contender then we can get excited. Rhodes was a good test but thats what he was a test . Lets see if he finally steps it up like fight Martirosyan Angulo Cintron Williams Cotto or even Martinez . But as of right now he is a contender with a belt not a champion .
@97ruff you know what thats a good point vato, & i would put money on it that canelo would beat martirosyan,angulo,kermit the frog cintron who likes to play leap frog & jump out the ring in shit, and cotto!! now williiams & martinez could be the ones that give canelo trouble., and i never said anything about him being the champion,,i said he is the realdeal bro. who happens to have a belt! but i do think he's ready for all those cats!
@97ruff ya well lets see if chavez jr fights someone legit not a manfredo jr, even if he fights mandfredo jr im still putting my money on manfredo bc he has way better power than him and more experianced than jr cause of the opponents tht manfredo has faced
canelo's slow and he goes for sloppy upercuts he sneaks in some nice powerful hooks,
but cotto works him with footwork and will move around alvarez tire him out and still get some nice quick jabs to his face. canelo will rush but hit air tire out and get knocked down.
@psychoboxingfan 100% totally agree with u can rly tell the difference between canelo and chavez jr styles canelo brings better head movement brings combinations and hes 20 yrs old hes going to fight big names in tht divison he can become two time world champion if he fights chavez for the WBC middleweight title he ll knock him the fuck out, Chavez JR he may have a belt but he aint truly a champion if he beats a legit fighter
How can they be watered down champs...they are young and had their first belts spoon fed to them...Alot of boxers get a belt like this...I believe Chavez lost his fight and the belt was bought for him bu Canelo...He is 20 yrs old and a true champ...He doesnt have to fight anyone of significance yet...He is not over hyped by anyone...He brought in a strong fan base from mexico and so did chavez...they needed no hype...They want to hype them up in da USA but they have a ligit strong core fan base
@ELbigstah How can he been a true champ he was spoon fed like u said and he is yet to really defend it or even earn the belt . That makes no sense he was spoon fed but he is a true champ ?!!!!
@97ruff ...Alot of boxers become champs by beating an old guy/washed up guy or fight for a vacant belt it happens all the time...He is defending against rhodes and the next fighter will be better and so on so forth...You guys need to stope mentioning Martinez and Cotto...Canelo is taking good steps up... he has fans and is a champ...nobody is saying he is lb. for lb. the best...
i believe both fighters are overhyped and commercialised but i still believe they are good, chavez will get spanked as soon as he fights a top level guy, williams, cintron, angulo, cotto, marg,martinez,sturm, macklin, barker, would all do a job on chavez, canelo is better than chavez but he still has flaws & if rhodes gets a fair fight in mexico then he will tko saul i'm afraid
Ha ha ha that wuz funny as hell Chavez is champion on training wheels. Chavez Jr should be sponsored by Fisher Price!!!! Canelo is maybe a better fighter than Chavez but both are water down champions. I wanna see young fighters like Demetrius Andrade and Mike Alvarado in the mix its time for them to step up and fight these waterdown champions..
@97ruff Weight draining won't work for Chavez jr he is chunkier than Martinez. Chavez could move up in weight to duck Martinez. Or he could just say he will not fight Martinez for less than 100 million dollars.
@hawkermustang fuck u ortiz is no water down at all jr and canelo is hard to me to say it is true but they r. but ortiz beat a young stronge hunger never lost fighter in my book ortiz is the real deal
@ejbm918 I always thought Berto was a paper champ that won a vacant belt vs a cab driver. Check it out it is true. I like Ortiz though. Yet, he was ko'd by Maidana, had a draw with Petterson, and was in a life and death struggle with Berto. This is why Floyd picked him.
@97ruff Martinez needed to fight Zbik and HBO didnt want that fight and he rather took the big money for Dziniruk fight then fight guy like Zbik on other television
@serpakovski what other television ??????? Martinez fought Dziniruk before being denied the Zbik by HBO which Martinez has a network contract with . The belt was stripped to be placed to Zbik for Chavez to gain who has openly stated He has no interested in fighting Martinez in a title defense for .
From what I've seen.. If things keep going the way they're going... Alvarez will prove critics wrong & Chavez Jr. will continue to disappoint.
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paredesp2323 7 months ago
Canelo and Chavez jr are they most wacked ass fighters Now days getting the easy fights
Prettyboypanda 7 months ago
I dont know why all the hate for Chavez jr. and all the praise for canelo when they are prety much on the same level. In fact Chavez jr. actually had to fight for his title because Zbik wasnt there just to be a punching bag. There are people actually saying canelo will be like Chavez ! I mean where do they get that from? Who knows how good he will be just like Chavez jr its not known yet. I think at this point Angulo koes both of them.
CAproduct 8 months ago
Peter Manfredo...? Shit I think he beat JC Chavez JR......with no problem....
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Chavez and Canelo are water down champions....Chavez is a bum no doubt about IT.....Canelo he might have something to him...but until he beats a Cotto, Martinez, Williams we will never know...
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They are watered down champs...but tht fight is still a very very interesting fight IMO. But I think they will wait to long to match them against each other and one of them will lose and ruin the fight...Jus like what happened to the Gamboa/Lopez potential mega-fight...they waited too long then Lopez got Upset by Salido now that fight is a "nothing" fight
SinCityMadman 8 months ago
@97ruff ..well 97 it looks as though canelo is the real mothafuckin deal!! he just demolished rhodes last night..based on that ,,i really dont think he's water'd down..overhyped or whatever!...chavez jr on the other hand,is a fucking joke!
psychoboxingfan 8 months ago 6
@psychoboxingfan sorry homie im still not really convince till he fights a real contender then we can get excited. Rhodes was a good test but thats what he was a test . Lets see if he finally steps it up like fight Martirosyan Angulo Cintron Williams Cotto or even Martinez . But as of right now he is a contender with a belt not a champion .
97ruff 8 months ago
@97ruff you know what thats a good point vato, & i would put money on it that canelo would beat martirosyan,angulo,kermit the frog cintron who likes to play leap frog & jump out the ring in shit, and cotto!! now williiams & martinez could be the ones that give canelo trouble., and i never said anything about him being the champion,,i said he is the realdeal bro. who happens to have a belt! but i do think he's ready for all those cats!
psychoboxingfan 8 months ago
and Vanes should be the first one on his hitlist!!lol
psychoboxingfan 8 months ago
@97ruff ya well lets see if chavez jr fights someone legit not a manfredo jr, even if he fights mandfredo jr im still putting my money on manfredo bc he has way better power than him and more experianced than jr cause of the opponents tht manfredo has faced
trinitystarr11 8 months ago
@97ruff
cotto wins against canelo easily.
canelo's slow and he goes for sloppy upercuts he sneaks in some nice powerful hooks,
but cotto works him with footwork and will move around alvarez tire him out and still get some nice quick jabs to his face. canelo will rush but hit air tire out and get knocked down.
SOH805 7 months ago
@psychoboxingfan 100% totally agree with u can rly tell the difference between canelo and chavez jr styles canelo brings better head movement brings combinations and hes 20 yrs old hes going to fight big names in tht divison he can become two time world champion if he fights chavez for the WBC middleweight title he ll knock him the fuck out, Chavez JR he may have a belt but he aint truly a champion if he beats a legit fighter
trinitystarr11 8 months ago
How can they be watered down champs...they are young and had their first belts spoon fed to them...Alot of boxers get a belt like this...I believe Chavez lost his fight and the belt was bought for him bu Canelo...He is 20 yrs old and a true champ...He doesnt have to fight anyone of significance yet...He is not over hyped by anyone...He brought in a strong fan base from mexico and so did chavez...they needed no hype...They want to hype them up in da USA but they have a ligit strong core fan base
ELbigstah 8 months ago
@ELbigstah How can he been a true champ he was spoon fed like u said and he is yet to really defend it or even earn the belt . That makes no sense he was spoon fed but he is a true champ ?!!!!
97ruff 8 months ago
@97ruff ...Alot of boxers become champs by beating an old guy/washed up guy or fight for a vacant belt it happens all the time...He is defending against rhodes and the next fighter will be better and so on so forth...You guys need to stope mentioning Martinez and Cotto...Canelo is taking good steps up... he has fans and is a champ...nobody is saying he is lb. for lb. the best...
ELbigstah 8 months ago
@ELbigstah
maidana and khan are better and thier 40 lbs less.
khan is young and when khan moves up weight and canelo grows up (most likely he will have 1-3 losses at 25) .
SOH805 7 months ago
i believe both fighters are overhyped and commercialised but i still believe they are good, chavez will get spanked as soon as he fights a top level guy, williams, cintron, angulo, cotto, marg,martinez,sturm, macklin, barker, would all do a job on chavez, canelo is better than chavez but he still has flaws & if rhodes gets a fair fight in mexico then he will tko saul i'm afraid
28rampage 8 months ago
Canelo is young enough for his talents to catch up to the hype. They are doing a great job 'protecting'/'promoting' his image so far...
OMGsDRugz 8 months ago
Ha ha ha that wuz funny as hell Chavez is champion on training wheels. Chavez Jr should be sponsored by Fisher Price!!!! Canelo is maybe a better fighter than Chavez but both are water down champions. I wanna see young fighters like Demetrius Andrade and Mike Alvarado in the mix its time for them to step up and fight these waterdown champions..
damage915 8 months ago
both these guys are terrible lol
sinistercharlie 8 months ago
I think Chavez Jr should duck Martinez for about 3 1/2 years and then he could kick Martinez's ass.
hawkermustang 8 months ago
@hawkermustang Or he can wait drain the guy or wait till he is over the hill too lol
97ruff 8 months ago
@97ruff Weight draining won't work for Chavez jr he is chunkier than Martinez. Chavez could move up in weight to duck Martinez. Or he could just say he will not fight Martinez for less than 100 million dollars.
hawkermustang 8 months ago
Victor Ortiz is a water down Champ too.
hawkermustang 8 months ago
@hawkermustang Like Pacquiao Mayweather etc. right :0)
97ruff 8 months ago
@hawkermustang Victor fought a legitimate opponent, unlike Canelo. I don't see how Victor is how you describe him.
Pacroid is pure shit, why even mention him?
aattitude 8 months ago
@hawkermustang my apologies.. you didn't mention pac.
aattitude 8 months ago
@hawkermustang fuck u ortiz is no water down at all jr and canelo is hard to me to say it is true but they r. but ortiz beat a young stronge hunger never lost fighter in my book ortiz is the real deal
ejbm918 8 months ago
@ejbm918 I always thought Berto was a paper champ that won a vacant belt vs a cab driver. Check it out it is true. I like Ortiz though. Yet, he was ko'd by Maidana, had a draw with Petterson, and was in a life and death struggle with Berto. This is why Floyd picked him.
hawkermustang 8 months ago
Chavez Jr. fought WBC champ for a belt,its not his fault that Martinez threw the belt for money.
And Canelo fought guy who never fought in light middleweight division for vacant belt
serpakovski 8 months ago
@serpakovski For Money???? he was stripped from his belt lol !!!!
97ruff 8 months ago
@97ruff Martinez needed to fight Zbik and HBO didnt want that fight and he rather took the big money for Dziniruk fight then fight guy like Zbik on other television
serpakovski 8 months ago
@serpakovski what other television ??????? Martinez fought Dziniruk before being denied the Zbik by HBO which Martinez has a network contract with . The belt was stripped to be placed to Zbik for Chavez to gain who has openly stated He has no interested in fighting Martinez in a title defense for .
97ruff 8 months ago
I think Chavez has some talent, he needs a lot more fights before he can be considered a true champ.
biggerflexible 8 months ago
Canelo is joke
Chavez Jr. is best ever 43 have tried 43 failed
serpakovski 8 months ago
@serpakovski Floyd don't have shit on Chavez JR. Chavez don't duck or dodge nobody!
hawkermustang 8 months ago
@hawkermustang Floyd would beat Chavez jr very easily.
aattitude 8 months ago