N1 soviet moon rocket / N1-6L Launch

[mrearlyadopter]

I think the United States is the place where people from all over the world have been coming together for a long time (obviously.) They've been doing amazing things together for a couple of centuries now. I live here and I know people from lots of counties. They leave behind the conflicts of their old counties and they live and work together as "Americans." That's pretty cool. Maybe we can define a person's country differently when it comes to the US. People choose to be Americans.

[chillaxer1993]

if we didnt spend 650 billion on the military and maybe only 400 billion maybe we could beef up nasa and education funding and beat the chinks back to the moon and establish a space coalition between non-communist planets for the exploration of space. we can exclude china unless they agree to work with the rest of the world to work in space to benefit humanity not countries

[Floppy2Blueray]

Yea just to let anyone reading know this fial troll closed his account after showing his true Aussie bigoted nature.

[Any1anDoThis]

as rossco1966 said, "Putting 2 men on the moon is like 3 orders of magnitude more difficult than LEO, but the media and general public doesnt seem to grasp that even today."

Many people don't understand the sophistication of the US project. Building a big rocket is only one part of a very complex program. No one else has even left Low Earth Orbit. All the problems the Americans solved and did to perfection have never been done at all by anyone else, including the Soviets.

[Floppy2Blueray]

@Any1anDoThis Yes i agree but what rossco failed to point out was that the amount of influence from outside america is huge and it is truely a human achievment and as far as the rocket goes its like claiming that the pieces of egyptian masonry work in London museums is a soley british achievment. yes america funded it and the job was done in america but the entire western worlds leading minds in the field came together for this. im not taking anything away from the achievment.

[IASOU2005]

I'd fly it.

[TheHotelMoxa]

did one of the N1 rockets achieve orbit ?

[candr]

@TheHotelMoxa The N-1 7L got about 25 miles up before it had to be destroyed when it went out of control in 72'.but none made it into orbit. Would have been something to see I think. I watched one of the Saturn V a fewyears before that, and if it was anything like that, I would have paid a ticket to watch.

[Sbowyer28]

The only flaw with the N1 actually was how close the engines are. Then after launch when they started shaking they disconnected, that is what was said that i heard.

[MrSrgj]

The Weak Soviet computers could not simultaneously control 30 engines.

[MightySaturn5]

@VlaXXie they still would not have beat the U.S. to the moon

[krenim786]

I think the things would be the reverse if von braun popped off in 1966 instead of Korolev.Korolev historically was a successful gambler with high tech though the N1 looks radical the R-7 was even more radical when it came out in 1957.The R-7 also failed 5 times before the 6th flight was a success.The same would have happened with the N1 only if korolev was alive to keep focus and assert authority.Russians didn't have a NASA.korolev was a one man NASA!The US won the 'space race' the day he died!

[SmorgasOfBorg]

THE (caps intentional) primary reason the N1 failed was the failure of Glushko to factor in the enormous vibrations created by so many engines operating at once. The failure falls on this omission in testing and design. It was the vibrations from those engines which caused multiple fuel line connection failures that doomed the launch(es) and ultimate failure.

[magicznyrafal]

pity that the rocket did not work

[uzimodem]

doomed from the start.

[JRhalo14]

im glad that the us won the space race but today im starting to think the USSR should of won, 1 were in debt 2 the current president doesn't care for putting astronauts into space and 3 the space shuttle program is coming to a stop.

[babybearkill]

If you look at history, the soviets had pretty much all of the firsts in space travel. the only reason there was a moon race is because the US created it so that they didn't look like limp noodles... the russians weren't racing. Being the first American in space really means " You were SECOND"

Read your history

[MightySaturn5]

@babybearkill ...just curious -hows it feel to be a retard?

[htc6600]

Blast the Russians all you want but sometime soon we're going to have to work together to figure out how to get off this rapidly expiring planet.

[FUCKINGUSERNAMELOL]

OH COME ON!! why'd you have to cut this short, *grumble*

[Levzha]

There were only two launches in 1988, the program is frozen due to lack of funding over 23 years. The energy was supposed to deliver a Soviet astronaut to Mars in 1996 ... energiya-polus watch?v=TnQf0b2tT0w&feature=re­lated , energiya-buran watch?v=ua2e-HLxHGs&feature=re­lated

[Jimbob8971]

@Levzha there was no such thing as a soviet astronaut in 1996.

[Levzha]

RD-170 is the most powerful rocket engine ever created, the thrust 806.2 ton (7843,14 kN). Russia sells to America RD-180 is 50% of the RD-170. Delta-4 has a RS-68 engine thrust 300.7 ton (2,949 kN). The most powerful rocket "Energia", the support for manned and unmanned missions to the Moon and Mars, thrust 2960-3224 ton (29-32 MN).

[brentsrx7]

Why do all of these videos cut short before the spectacular explosion??? That is the best part, a big metaphor for the soviet collapse.

[Levzha]

There are no mistakes only one who does not do anything!

[Levzha]

Sorry for my English, it is translator Google)

[Levzha]

@rossco1966 History tells us that all successful ideas being upgraded, and not discarded! Strange, But where vaunted German engine (it worked Wernher Von Braun) F-1 now? If he is so good, where it modified? Why do Americans fly on a Soviet modified RD-170 (1976!), Which are now successfully selling Russia to the United States and China? Not in America good engine and was not, according to the calculations of engineers Saturn-5 in the best case the output carrier rocket into orbit.

[brentsrx7]

@Levzha Wow dude.. I would do a bit more research. there are different categories of lift capacity in the rocket world requiring different rockets, a Saturn v is not necessary to get ppl to iss. It gets ppl to the moon. America has the most powerful heavy lifter in world, the Delta 4. Soyuz is from the 60's and is a "cheap" way for astronauts to space. The RD-170 is only used on one American rocket, and it is just one engine option for lighter payloads. Its cheaper not better. Braun didn't do f1

[t5239857289578947594]

I'm hearing a russian accent as I read.

[RomelioSanzz]

The main mistake of the Russians was thinking that they must do a bigger and more powerful rocket than the Saturn V. When Russians made their own ideas like Sputnik, Vostok and Soyuz, they won, but try to make a twin of Saturn V was suicide, they never had the money and enough time to do it. The same thing happened with the Buran Space Shuttle.

They were at that time other ways to go to the Moon...

[brentsrx7]

@RomelioSanzz America had the same idea's bu in many cases lost out by months or even weeks in each step right up until the end.

[bombarderoazul]

If korolev hadn't died the russians might have given the americans a good run for their money. He was the main man and was a great organizer. He's the reason the soviets had a good start early in the space race. After he passed away, the soviet space program fell into chaos and disorder.

[RA9ODE]

why it always so short ???

[rossco1966]

Classic tortise and hare. Soviets were miles ahead come 64 but came apart in the mid race and didnt even make it to the finish. Americans way behind at the start, mainly due to launcher size, but by late 63 had a plan, had the F1 engines and had the design for the saturn range. Putting 2 men on the moon is like 3 orders of magnitude more difficult than LEO, but the media and general public doesnt seem to grasp that even today.....

[Alembic25]

@rossco1966 I've often thought that the Soviet moon effort was damaged by the insistence of Khruschev that the Voskhod triple crew and spacewalk spectaculars went ahead. Development of Soyuz and N1-L3 was halted to create the technical dead end of the Voskhod flights. Dilution of effort between three moon proposals was unwise also. The managment structure was centred on one man in Korolyov and when he died, his deputy, Mishin found it impossible to fill his shoes. A sad situation.

[Jimbob8971]

@rossco1966 make no mistake if sergey korolov had lived to see the N1 i am sure it would have been russians on the moon after all he had more brains than von braun but the whole reason why the N1 failed is because the man who was in charge of the program after korolov past did not have a clue what he was doing (Mishin).

[MightySaturn5]

@rossco1966 well said

[cris7cheche]

@rossco1966 you forgot to mention the most important fact. the men who was behind the F1 engine, the Saturn and everyother rocket use by the army

[Floppy2Blueray]

@rossco1966 What they dont grasp is a nazi scientist can tip the scale in the USA's favour not to mention the Soviets were broke .....nuff said

[888888username]

@Floppy2Blueray nuff said, my ASS. A GERMAN named Von Braun was one of a team of hundreds of thousands of Americans including my father, an engineer, who put men on the moon. Von Braun started by copying an AMERICAN, Robert Goddard, who INVENTED the liquid fueled rocket in the first place. The Soviets had their Germans too, who had worked with Von Braun at Peenemunde and gave Russia the German rocket tech too. One rocket man does not make an Apollo program. Not even close.

[Floppy2Blueray]

@888888username Hermann Julius Oberth and Konstantin Tsiolkovsky contributed just as much to rocketry would you not agree or are you to busy typing " AMERICAN" to grasp that it was a human achievment that america claims and tries to rub in the face of Russian pioneers. you turn this into a commie v america argument when we can all look back and take a look at all the great men in this race.

[888888username]

@Floppy2Blueray You raised the issue of Von Braun, a rocket engineer. I only point out that Goddard invented and built the first real liquid-fueled rockets that were the core invention that made space travel possible. I correctly stated that Von Braun used Goddard's invention as his foundation. Oberth was a German born in Romania, NOT Russian. Tsiolkovsky was a great theorist. Yes, it is a human accomplishment, but YOU would deny my people their rightful credit for it.

[Floppy2Blueray]

@888888username "Oberth was a German born in Romania, NOT Russian" I know that its you turning it into a war against sovietism. "I correctly stated that Von Braun used Goddard's invention as his foundation" Von Braun used all three mens work to further his own. "but YOU would deny my people their rightful credit for it." YOU keep typing in caps and dont realise the hypocrisy of claiming its a human achievment then slapping your flag on it.

[888888username]

@Floppy2Blueray Yes, it was an AMERICAN achievement that never would have happened without an AMERICA to bring together all the parts and DO THE ACTUAL WORK that made it possible. You fucking suck you ignorant jerk. It was a huge accomplishment of organization and work and innovation unprecedented in the history of humanity. THAT part is ALL American. Can't you see that? It's one thing to theorize and imagine...it's entirely another to actually do something incredibly difficult.

[Floppy2Blueray]

@888888username "THAT part is ALL American. Can't you see that? " the fact that Von Braun is in NASA at the time means it isnt all american FACT. "It's one thing to theorize and imagine...it's entirely another to actually do something incredibly difficult." lol its one thing to have the money to do it you mean.

[Floppy2Blueray]

@888888username O yea and by the way TROLL HARDER MUPPET. Australia had a brilliant space program.

[888888username]

@Floppy2Blueray You need to actually STUDY THE APOLLO PROGRAM in all its complexity. Then you might begin to appreciate it. Remember: I know people who worked on it, and I have a deep understanding of it from a lifetime. You are obviously just another internet moron with superficial knowledge of the history of space flight and a cliched resentment for America's success. You have no idea how anything actually works or what is involved in doing anything related to the subject at hand.

[Floppy2Blueray]

@888888username "You need to actually STUDY THE APOLLO PROGRAM in all its complexity. Then you might begin to appreciate it. " lol i love the apollo program its brilliant i love the russian space program too you are trying to tarnish the russians work im pointing out NASA and Americas problems and thier depth owed to Von Braun and other non- americans that did the ground work.

[888888username]

@Floppy2Blueray And why were the Soviets broke, do you suppose? They were broke because they were a backward bunch of former peasants serving under the crushing thumb of a ruthless dictator, Joseph Stalin, who murdered millions more people than even Adolf Hitler, and then Nikita Krushchev, an aparatchik leader of a one-party police state, and then Leonid Brezhnev, another party leader where dissent was not allowed. Their planned economies were failures and their people lived as prisoners.

[888888username]

@Floppy2Blueray Thank you, asshole, for insulting and belittling one of mankind's greatest achievements that was accomplished by AMERICANS like my father. You are not even good enough to shine his shoes, you IGNORANT jerk.

[Virgocygni56]

great footage, unfortunately a non democratic space program why all the secrecy? just ridiculous, what were they thinking? that if they would have reached the moon they would have called the journalist after the fact....??... That is why they never made it...

[Alembic25]

The whole N1 project was dogged with problems. Initially, the moon rocket programme was split between 3 different designs each competing for funds and support. The Brezniev regine focussed on Korolevs OKB-1 office but they were already behind the US and underfunded. Korolev at the head of their space program worked well although it cost him his health. Such an approach couldn't work for the moon program though Mishin tried but he hit the vodka to deal with the stress, Bad managment.

[Jimbob8971]

@Alembic25 i still think that there would have been a russian on the moon had korolov survied because lets face it he had more brains than von braun did.

[Alembic25]

@Jimbob8971 Possibly but I still think the lack of funding would have still been a factor. There's no doubt that Mishin was a very gifted engineer but the pressure was simply too much for the man and he hit the bottle. Korolevs health collapsed under the same pressure. Maybe in the end it was the right thing to cancel the N1 and restructure the managment and future projects. The reliability of the Proton and R7 boosters came as a result of these changes.

[Jimbob8971]

@Alembic25 and besides the fact that there was a lot of sabotageing mostly from US agents so maybes thats why the N1 had a very bad failure rate.

[Arcmate]

Spectacular! More footage appears all the time of this rocket. I think the man at the periscope is Valentin Glushko, their top engine designer. He felt the N1 was a mistake and refused to provide engines for it. Kuznetsov supplied the engines instead. Upon taking over from Mishin as design chief, Glushko ditched the N1.

[Travellerdream]

Good vid, post more of the same! :=)

[kapitankartoon]

WOW. I like it. If the Russians did go to the Mon this is what it would have looked like!