You know SOMEONE should run this on original hardware and record it in HD, not just this but all the great assembly demos, and have interviews with those guys and all the people throughout the industries who they effected, that would be a kick butt documentary! Discuss just how tricky some of this was on those machines.
@SargNickFury Yeah, you should purchase the MindCandy DVD series -- first one is PC (and has a perfect working version of Panic on it), 2nd is Amiga, and 3rd is PC demos in HD/blu-ray. All three have commentary.
This demo was single handedly responsible for getting me both addicted to the Demo scene, and Raves.....Good times!!!! I wonder if they have any idea just how big a following they had all over the world.
This was pretty much favorite demo "back in the day", bar none - for pretty much the reason that Abyss gives below, namely the fact that it's actually got a flow to it, that it's a whole instead of just a string of effects presented one after another (like, say, in Unreal - not that that one was bad).
This encode made me cry, though. The demo did NOT deserve to be butchered this badly.
Ah yes, brings back memories of the great FC demos and music. Was also in the days I ran the Dutch Future Crew bulletin board system and had to download the new releases using my US Robotics 33k6 modem. Those were days, no internet yet....
this was always my favourite FC demo, because of how it flowed from start to finish. Their megademos didn't have the flow like this did, with the stop/start of loading each section.
really nice one which i played several times on my 386DX40...runs really nice on it. Your video has many errors, looks emulated, is it? use real hardware not emulation! ; )
I only got to hear the music. I never got to see the animations (for the most part) the went with these tunes. The orange mandelbrot almost looked like a volcano had erupted. This would have been about the time I got hooked on fractals.
The problem is that this demo was written in 1992... way before Windows XP. It won't run in a DOS command prompt from Windows, so the person who captured this ran it with DosBox.
However, some of the VGA register tricks Future Crew used to make the screen scrolls and probably some of the other effects, just don't work the way they're supposed to under DosBox... that's why you have problems with 0:20 - 0:40, for example.
Not necessarily... if he used the built-in capture feature of DosBox, it may have thrown off the timing of the VGA register tricks. I used to experiment with stuff like that on a 486DX2/66, and the timing is critical... even a few milliseconds off, and the interrupt routine may not have time to complete its task before the next interrupt.
Still an awesome demo for its time, though, no doubt about it!!!
@spearm64 ... not to mention the beautiful plasma effect being ruined. There's only one real way: Run it on the original hardware (and even then you might need some luck ;))
@spearm64 Hehe, Yeah, I guess it is problem to simulate effects which relays on things such as "Wait for vertical retrace". The retrace happens when the electron beam in your old CRT monitor has reached the bottom of the screen and is moving back to the top ready for another scan. During this short period the graphics card isn't sending any data to the monitor, so you can do things to it that aren't possible at other times.
Wow - Trug and Abyss both here! I still have a 486DX4-100 that I use mostly for playing the demos Second Reality and Panic! Now I'm going to have to look - I have another - I believe it is by Trug and it predates Panic. Compared to Panic or Second Reality it's simple - but still WAY beyond anything I can do.
@mtuomi You are the living history of demoscene and the nightmare to the new age pc users. The good old days have lost due to massive commercial politics of PC companies....
A nice ravey FC demo. Too bad that the emualtion and screen (video?) capturing totally ruined some of the effects, but still nice to watch after all those years.
Back in the day my friends and I used to lug around our 386's to each others houses and put 'em side by side to see whose machine could play the demos the best. This is one of the ones we'd frequently play. Love the soundtrack. There was hardly a BBS around back then that didn't host fc demos.
Years ago, I'm talking about the 486 days I use to run Future Crew demos on PCs I built and had on display in my shop. People would watch them for hours. After they seen the demo, 99% guaranteed sale. Thanks Future Crew!!!!!!
We had a great time making this demo. One of the sessions was at Gore's basement, and everybody from FC was hammering away at the demo. We were really inspired by trackmo's from the Amiga, so we wanted to do a constantly flowing experience instead of an old megademo style collection of events.
So we needed somebody to yell the "Panic" sample. And yeah, I got immortalized ;-).
Great to have a reply from you Abyss! It must have been weird to be part of a production that is still being watched and LOVED by people after all those years. PANIC :)
@P0WERHE4D Jonne Valtonen. At the time he went by "Purple Motion". And no wonder some of the patterns resemble Second Reality, because it's the same composer! :)
I always wondered if you guys had any idea just how wide spread your fan base was I live In Tennessee and we used to hang on your every upload by FC, heck we used to cheat and get on ORNL telnet just to download your stuff! With great risk came rewards! Even played the music at parties.
I think it runs fine in my 386, I am not sure about the SX but mine is a DX. My 386 almost runs Second Reality in an ok speed too (fast enough 16bit ISA card here) :P
Video is broken!
bitl7dump 5 months ago
This was always my favourite FC demo, it flowed much better than the bigger productions, Unreal and Second Reality! :)
slammy102 9 months ago
Why don't added support gravis ulltrasound for this demo
parrel1 10 months ago
Another one of my favorite mods from back in the day. THANK YOU!
djsixtysix523 10 months ago
yé soui hynoptisée
bbfaya33 11 months ago
You know SOMEONE should run this on original hardware and record it in HD, not just this but all the great assembly demos, and have interviews with those guys and all the people throughout the industries who they effected, that would be a kick butt documentary! Discuss just how tricky some of this was on those machines.
SargNickFury 1 year ago
@SargNickFury Google "mindcandy dvd" :-)
CaptainChaos 6 months ago
@SargNickFury Yeah, you should purchase the MindCandy DVD series -- first one is PC (and has a perfect working version of Panic on it), 2nd is Amiga, and 3rd is PC demos in HD/blu-ray. All three have commentary.
MobyGamer 4 months ago in playlist Future Crew
This demo was single handedly responsible for getting me both addicted to the Demo scene, and Raves.....Good times!!!! I wonder if they have any idea just how big a following they had all over the world.
SargNickFury 1 year ago
@SargNickFury
Hahahaha. The same for me.
pskourale 9 months ago
man this demo is awesome. distorted from the original of course
matthewdoucette 1 year ago
Nothing like watching it on the real thing in real time though, time to fire up my windows 95 machine!
TechnologyGod 1 year ago
This is the best demo ever made. :)
urpis99 1 year ago
Thanks for upload!!!
Shadoud 1 year ago
This was pretty much favorite demo "back in the day", bar none - for pretty much the reason that Abyss gives below, namely the fact that it's actually got a flow to it, that it's a whole instead of just a string of effects presented one after another (like, say, in Unreal - not that that one was bad).
This encode made me cry, though. The demo did NOT deserve to be butchered this badly.
Schneelocke 1 year ago
Ah yes, brings back memories of the great FC demos and music. Was also in the days I ran the Dutch Future Crew bulletin board system and had to download the new releases using my US Robotics 33k6 modem. Those were days, no internet yet....
olafp12 1 year ago
this was always my favourite FC demo, because of how it flowed from start to finish. Their megademos didn't have the flow like this did, with the stop/start of loading each section.
slammy102 1 year ago
really nice one which i played several times on my 386DX40...runs really nice on it. Your video has many errors, looks emulated, is it? use real hardware not emulation! ; )
samplesmasher 2 years ago
You're right. It was emulated, probably with DosBox. But not a whole lot of people have hung onto their old 40 MHz machines. ;)
spearm64 2 years ago
awesome demo, but a pretty bad video of it; video all crappy half of the time
pnvd 2 years ago 2
looks like it was recorded onto a VHS tape and the tape has degraded a lot
linuxlove4004 2 years ago
No, it's the MPEG compression. You don't see moving scanlines at the bottom, do you?
Also, the edges are too sharp and too properly aligned to be off of a VHS tape.
tkwtube01 1 year ago
oté futur crew 974 oté tjr la oté o yeah
974remi 2 years ago
I used to love showing people that on my PC back in 1992. Amazing when you think that it is 17 years old now!
AndySpak 2 years ago 3
Really great sounds. Almost beats Sid ;)
prowokator 2 years ago 2
Some of Future Crews where made for Amiga as well, so there's really a connection to SID music between this demo group.
tomasahlin 2 years ago
had this on my 486 PC back in the 90s. ROCK.
sidewalkpilot 2 years ago 3
LOL 1:36 to 2:06
tronlaser 2 years ago
Love the greetings music at the end
iou0 2 years ago
I saw this waaaay back on an 386 25mHz, too light to see the sword coming up. Great demo and still great music.
8bitfanaat 2 years ago
I only got to hear the music. I never got to see the animations (for the most part) the went with these tunes. The orange mandelbrot almost looked like a volcano had erupted. This would have been about the time I got hooked on fractals.
AllFractUp 2 years ago 2
oh yeah...this must be 15 years ago. i saw it on a 486 dx2/66
CULT!
riget78 2 years ago
this capture of the demo is inaccurate and should not be taken as a recording of the original.
gyoza1138 2 years ago 4
nO SHIT :)
DXMDEALER 2 years ago
The problem is that this demo was written in 1992... way before Windows XP. It won't run in a DOS command prompt from Windows, so the person who captured this ran it with DosBox.
However, some of the VGA register tricks Future Crew used to make the screen scrolls and probably some of the other effects, just don't work the way they're supposed to under DosBox... that's why you have problems with 0:20 - 0:40, for example.
spearm64 2 years ago 22
I ran this in dosbox before and it's not as bad as it is here, iirc. It's probably a lot to do with the video encoding or capture quality.
notnmn 2 years ago
Not necessarily... if he used the built-in capture feature of DosBox, it may have thrown off the timing of the VGA register tricks. I used to experiment with stuff like that on a 486DX2/66, and the timing is critical... even a few milliseconds off, and the interrupt routine may not have time to complete its task before the next interrupt.
Still an awesome demo for its time, though, no doubt about it!!!
spearm64 2 years ago 3
I see, I didn't realize the possibility of that.
notnmn 2 years ago
@spearm64
They recently updated DOSBox, they should be able to run the Demo again with the updated version.
HoneycombAgent 1 year ago
@spearm64 ... not to mention the beautiful plasma effect being ruined. There's only one real way: Run it on the original hardware (and even then you might need some luck ;))
gammypoofle 1 year ago
@spearm64 Hehe, Yeah, I guess it is problem to simulate effects which relays on things such as "Wait for vertical retrace". The retrace happens when the electron beam in your old CRT monitor has reached the bottom of the screen and is moving back to the top ready for another scan. During this short period the graphics card isn't sending any data to the monitor, so you can do things to it that aren't possible at other times.
yahool78 1 year ago
@spearm64 I managed to capture this correctly. Search for "Panic by Future Crew (720p)"
sdf0013 1 year ago
@spearm64 well.. ive seen this on this demoscene collection and i know it says "scrollers suck!"
TheSlenderFan 2 months ago
@TheSlenderFan *laughs* Yes, it does. I remember running this demo on my 486DX2/66 back in the day. :)
SpearM3064 1 month ago
@spearm64 I have the same problem!
domantasrackovas 1 month ago
Ah proper stereo rip on this one, nice :)
Harekiet 2 years ago
Wow - Trug and Abyss both here! I still have a 486DX4-100 that I use mostly for playing the demos Second Reality and Panic! Now I'm going to have to look - I have another - I believe it is by Trug and it predates Panic. Compared to Panic or Second Reality it's simple - but still WAY beyond anything I can do.
Huggy1959 2 years ago
OMG.. the music.
Mod tracking forever!!!! wooooo voxel pix!
kinmanyuen 2 years ago
Wow, nice to see this stuff preserved here. Brings lot of good memories!
Trug / Future Crew
mtuomi 2 years ago 12
Big UPS :) / FadeoutCrew
DXMDEALER 2 years ago 3
@mtuomi wow! a guy from future crew! I've seen your demos and they're awesome!!! i love you guys!
TheSlenderFan 2 months ago
@mtuomi You are the living history of demoscene and the nightmare to the new age pc users. The good old days have lost due to massive commercial politics of PC companies....
pskourale 2 weeks ago
Ahh this brings me back. We would drop acid and just watch all of these!
phred75 2 years ago
ohh yeah S3M was the days.... excelent and still in use today... Adlib synthesis too
DXMDEALER 2 years ago
oh nostalgie... i miss DOS and screem tracker 3.21 :(:(
springby 2 years ago 2
Not only were these guys ahead of the curve, they were like 14 when they wrote this shit
koaftder 2 years ago 4
Scrollers Suck! LOL These guys were so ahead of everyone else! Love it!
drdigital1 3 years ago 3
A nice ravey FC demo. Too bad that the emualtion and screen (video?) capturing totally ruined some of the effects, but still nice to watch after all those years.
Velktron 3 years ago
thats some olds school stuff. And someone said BBS ! haha.. yer all old.. ;)
And i gotta say WOW.. Abyss from Future Crew actually commented. thats just too cool.
snaxs2000 3 years ago 2
Back in the day my friends and I used to lug around our 386's to each others houses and put 'em side by side to see whose machine could play the demos the best. This is one of the ones we'd frequently play. Love the soundtrack. There was hardly a BBS around back then that didn't host fc demos.
koaftder 3 years ago
LAN PARTY! and laptops back then were to dam bulky. About the size of a large suite case
stealthrt92 3 years ago
sw33t old time ;)
necroleak 3 years ago
Great to see this! BRings back memories. Though this version is a little glitch. Ran a little better on my 486sx back in the day! Long live FC
drj0nez 3 years ago
Years ago, I'm talking about the 486 days I use to run Future Crew demos on PCs I built and had on display in my shop. People would watch them for hours. After they seen the demo, 99% guaranteed sale. Thanks Future Crew!!!!!!
stealthrt92 3 years ago
We had a great time making this demo. One of the sessions was at Gore's basement, and everybody from FC was hammering away at the demo. We were really inspired by trackmo's from the Amiga, so we wanted to do a constantly flowing experience instead of an old megademo style collection of events.
So we needed somebody to yell the "Panic" sample. And yeah, I got immortalized ;-).
-- Abyss / Future Crew
abyssi3 3 years ago 89
Great to have a reply from you Abyss! It must have been weird to be part of a production that is still being watched and LOVED by people after all those years. PANIC :)
MrJinx0 3 years ago 9
I still love this demo. It loaded every day on my old PC! And, of course, the audio track is in my mp3 player
Thank you, Abyss
calimero74 3 years ago
@abyssi3 Thanks for making the 90's computer scene enjoyable...
rykk78 1 year ago
@abyssi3 Great thank's for the rest of your theam and you personally. I'm growed up on Future Crew demos. It was totaly amasing experience.
vahrushevA 1 year ago
@abyssi3 Who wrote the music for this? Some patterns resemble Second Reality...
P0WERHE4D 1 year ago
@P0WERHE4D Jonne Valtonen. At the time he went by "Purple Motion". And no wonder some of the patterns resemble Second Reality, because it's the same composer! :)
spearm64 1 year ago
@abyssi3 Future crew - doing on a early 90s VGA pc what an OCS amiga could do in 1985
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77 Yeah, and look at all the Amiga computers everybody is using today! Oh, wait...
gregly 1 year ago
@gregly That is not a valid argument.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@gregly Only reason the Amiga died the way it did is because of stupidity by Commodore's executives after Tramiel left.
spearm64 1 year ago
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@richardmaudsley77 Yeah, and look at all the Amiga computers everybody is using today! Oh, wait...
gregly 1 year ago
@abyssi3 Man, you guys changed my (and I'm sure countless others) lives.
TheSignalComes 1 year ago
@TheSignalComes Agreed. 2nd Reality was one of the first demos I saw, and just few weeks later I was already programming in asm.
hotelvictor 1 year ago
@abyssi3
I always wondered if you guys had any idea just how wide spread your fan base was I live In Tennessee and we used to hang on your every upload by FC, heck we used to cheat and get on ORNL telnet just to download your stuff! With great risk came rewards! Even played the music at parties.
SargNickFury 1 year ago
@abyssi3 God (if exist in the meaning the most people know) bless you guyz..... Greetz from Greece.....
pskourale 10 months ago
@abyssi3 Does others members of FC also have nostalgia? ;)
fcycles 10 months ago
I think this was one of the first things I ran on my Cyrix 5x86 upgraded PC :)
pikuorguk 3 years ago
I think it runs fine in my 386, I am not sure about the SX but mine is a DX. My 386 almost runs Second Reality in an ok speed too (fast enough 16bit ISA card here) :P
Optimus6128 3 years ago
My 486SX 25MHz ran Second Reality good, but you could see some slowing down in some effects compared to a 486DX2 66MHz.
ilkkavu 3 years ago
Awesome. And Purple Motion's classic tune still rocks. Love it.
Prizm4 3 years ago 3
in dosbox the scrollers indeed suck :D
maali82 3 years ago 3
Future Crew owns me forever. Used to tote these to parties on a bunch of floppies. Good times!
mriggsbee 3 years ago 5
Wow! This piece´s been sooo slow on my 386
Flitzpiepe3000 3 years ago
goes wrong in the beginning.. dosbox problem :) pitty but a hell good demo from its time. make me remember my younger ages :)
philipsuper 3 years ago 3
I remember this slowing the hell out of my IBM XT 086 baby!!
m015094 3 years ago
It wouldn't have even run on an IBM XT. The demo requires a 32-bit processor.
Darconville 3 years ago
Yeah, my bad. I wasn't thinking. This would have been in the 486 realm.
m015094 3 years ago
Now that I think about it , we had a 16 color screen with the XT. Can you imagine only having 16 colors today? I love technology.
m015094 3 years ago
cool :)
szuki79 3 years ago