Albert Pike was the Sovereign Grand Inspector General 33rd Degree of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Aincient and Accepted Rite it is an Appendent Order and not superior to Craft Freemasonry. Pikes authority is within that order. and that covered a geographical area from the Atlantic Coast of Florida to the Western Borders of Texas. If they have read all of the pages [836] and understood it. I would be amazed
I love it when a person gets a paragraph and thinks that they have solved a GREAT mystery. What action do Masons take? Look at the different charities that we promote, the millions of dollars we donate to research for Shriners Hospitals, we do research for blindness and so and so forth. These guys need to get a life.
in this whole video I hear the accusers speaking and never actually listening to a thing these people said, it shows that the people who made this video are nothing more than immature people who just want to create conflict. That book is not ven apart of a masonic "syllabus" if you will. I remember hearing a guy who was plastered all over the news for a week about how he said he was the rebirth of Jesus Christ and people followed him and beleived this, does that make all christians (the other
The producers should do there research with regards to Freemasonry Moarals and Dogma was writen for members of the Southern Jurisdiction Aincient and Accepted Scottish Rite by Albert Pike. rather than demonstrateing thier knowledge shows a deep of ignorance.
lol, morals and dogma is extremely complicated, i love how complete idiots read through it and think they no shit, when they do not. you cant just read through that book, it doesnt work, it requires a shit ton of additional research.... and then again if you read it just looking for evil, then you will make it into what you already think it is...
@Beukendaalmason thanks mate I'm just interested what goes on inside, I wish I was a Mason maybe I would get to know about old secrets of the world. Your a Mason do you think I would?
@forks74 Not really, people arent always at the Lodge building to allow people access (the buildings arent always in use and would be locked). But you can contact your local Lodge and arrange to see it, see when people might be at the lodge building to talk to or take a look (Lodge events, ect), and some even rent out their buildings. Some Grand Lodge websites even have virtual tours of the buildings.
You might have had a little more sucess had you offered your "information" in written form. I am one of the youngest in my Lodge and dabble with computers, but many do not. Come to think of it that wouldn't have helped after all. Having the brass to show up and tell these old guys what they were ACTUALLY doing in the Lodge would have shot any of your credibilty to blazes..
First off, Albert Pike did not speak for freemasonry. Morals and Dogma is not a Masonic text. It was written by a mason, but It would never be used as a volume of sacred law in a lodge. It was his own philosophical take on humanity, religion, and the teaching of masonry. There is no rule book or canonized doctrine used in masonry.
Initiates are not intentionally misled. Remember that people spoke and wrote differently back then.
@filoIII you understand that reference is not meaning satan, Pike was of a different time and they used language differently, meanings of terms change, think about the orginal meaning of pretender, it practically means the opposite today. If we judged the consitution by the men who signed it and what else they wrote, it would not be practical. Likewise with ancient leaders of civic groups.
@itissomeoneelse "Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!" [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p. 321.]--Either you're ignorant about masonry or are lying to protect the "craft." Pike was from the 1800's. Not the 900's. Satan worship.
@filoIII Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! means "isn't it ironic", maybe that clears it up for you. dont read things into it, think about its in historic context. if your determined to find satan somewhere, i guess you will succeed. just google lucifer is not satan and you will get lots of explanation from nonmasonic sources about the misconception of Lucifer.
@filoIII as you should in the context of the Bible, outside that context being so narrow in reading may lead you to imputing wrong meaning to words, as it appears to be the case here. But even if you stick with the Bible, you must realize Lucifer is mentioned only once in Isaiah 14:12
CONT it was odd since the word is latin not hebrew, read the text closely and if you can go to the hebrew --- close exam shows this text makes no reference to Satan, but that was imputed by the Romans and later the in the King James Bible.
@itissomeoneelse The heretical catholic manuscripts change it from lucifer to morning star as the one who fell from heaven. The morning star is Jesus in Revelation. The AV does NOT come from the same sources and the catholic bible, including the false perversions of today that come from those same catholic manuscripts. I'm just nutty enough to believe that ol' Book, how 'bout you? Reckon not.
Freemasons are a bunch of kooks, running around in their stupid robes, standing about on one leg like Captain Long John Silver, chanting all that babble and gibberish.
A reasoned argument stating that Albert Pike was in the Southern Jurisdiction of the Aincient and Accepted Scottish Rite. His musing do not apply to anyone than himself.
Its so nice to Fundamentalist Christians who are sincere in their beliefs being sincerely wrong.
@GunslingerRoland123 Why do you masons always leave these weird ass cryptic messages on these videos, does the brotherhood include a free lobotomy procedure with membership? And more importantly, do you scottish geezers actually get laid when you speak like a malfunctioning stepford wife to the ladies?
Its like this , If I say stand in front of the mirror and hold up your right hand. Then I ask what hand is in the mirror. Some will say left hand, some will say my right hand , and some will say, there is no hand in the mirror. They are all right and correct, but the best, most correct is the third, the adept. SO , some are misled. Oh, IM a Buddhist, not in masonry.
@0rbis2010 I'm a mason, I support WAC, have been a "truther" since the day I was born, and will spill every drop of my blood on this soil defending this country at the drop of a hat. No my father was not a mason. Becoming a mason was an act of my own free will and accord, and I wish i hadn't waited so friggin long. The conspiracy theories had me wicked freaked out, but I nutted up, and it's the best thing I ever did.
@0rbis2010 yes but the lower levels are no satanic my friend they are very community based and friendly organisation its only once u get over 33rd degree it merges with other organisations and religions.
In this video, you're aggressive, pushy, agitated and belligerent. These men are calm and polite.
It makes me want to become a mason. I'm reading Morals and Dogma right now-- I think it's a very well-written and powerful book. Sounds like the kind of thing I want to be a part of!
We are considered as undesirables, mere man that creates chaos in the world, that MASONS have to place an order of instruction to those who join, sworn to secrecy , therefore the deeds are harmful ......... there is so much information out there now that points to this dishonesty amongst who join the CRAFT....... in order to reache sum satanic surpreme degree ( new world order ) control over every man, every life
jeez what a load of crap, they dress up in robes, with hoods, and medallians, around their necks ,dressed like mayors, they recite rituals, and re enact people being murdered, going back to ancient times, and history, and they tell people its like role play in the theatre, i have a book of instruction within my posession, from the masonic hall, they worship ALLAH as their GOD, ring any bells ? ALLAH = BUSH = terroism??? OH??????? yea lol
Beyond that, this video actually leaves me very impressed by the Freemasons. Here we have a remarkably ignorant and astonishingly rude and confrontational person being as arrogant and in-your-face as possible, and how do the Masons react? They calmly answer his loaded questions and treat him with the basic respect that he obviously lacks for them. We should be so lucky as to have more Masons in the world, and less like the rude ass who made this video.
It's a shame these young men are so easily mislead by religious bigots, but sadly it's not surprising. Ironically this guy makes a big deal out of Pike's suggestion that early entrants be intentionally mislead - as if mainstream Christian churches don't do precisely the same thing. As a kid you're taught about Adam & Eve, but it's only when you're of a more mature mind that you learn it's just a myth (except in the view of fundamentalists, of course, but they're a lost cause anyway).
I don't want you to think that I am hostile towards you at all by the way. I respect the fact that you researched and you have a strong opinion on the subject. I applaud you for taking the time to talk to some actual Masons on Masonry instead of collaborating with some nut job. Have a great holiday season and Merry Christmas sir :o)
but I went and sat down and ate dinner and drank some coffee with some really good guys. You won't feel out of place and you will probably see that it is really just a big group of really good guys that show a mutual brotherly respect and love to one another regardless of what country, religion, race, or background anyone came from. Freemasons in the US give around 2 million dollars a day away freely in charity in Hospitals, Food, Shelters, etc. And you won't see advertisement for that...
So if you really wanted to know what Masonry was about, just go inside and eat dinner with them. Before every stated meeting they usually have a meal and coffee and talk for an hour or so before starting. And that is open to anyone curious... So you could just simply walk in and say, "I have doubts and am curious about what really goes on here" then everyone will probably introduce themselves to you and sit down and shoot the shit with you. When I went the first time I was skeptical on everythin
You do bring good questions, but honestly you are basing your entire argument on one book that was more of a personal memoir than a governing doctrine, I am sure that 120 something years ago in Albert Pikes Lodge people entertained it but his book is scoured with personal opinions not actual Masonic Law. You are very energetic and almost hostile to a man that came out to talk to you and answer your questions but you continued to site a book that is irrelevant basically...
Lol. Actually that was a personal publication of Albert Pike and in no way has any governing direction in Freemasonry. You went to a Lodge right? So you are showing a book from a 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Mason from the early 1800s to Blue Lodge members... Morals and Dogma if you really read it is more poetry and personal OPINION on what Freemasonry was and meant to Albert Pike in the 1800s... In the South Civil War Era... But at least you are talking to people and not blasting them online lol
It is only required of him that he shall weigh what is taught, and give it fair hearing and unprejudiced judgment. Of course, the ancient theosophic and philosophic speculations are NOT EMBODIED AS PART OF THE DOCTRINES OF THE RITE..
The teachings of these Readings are not sacramental, so far as they go beyond the realm of Morality into those of other domains of Thought and Truth. The ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite uses the word "Dogma" in its true sense, of doctrine, or teaching; and is not dogmatic in the odious sense of that term. EVERYONE IS ENTIRELY FREE TO REJECT AND DISSENT FROM WHATSOEVER HEREIN MAY SEEM TO HIM TO BE UNTRUE AND UNSOUND.
@TheSexybadassboy there's a book called "Scotch Rite Masonry Illustrated," by John Blanchard, it has all the degrees of the Scottish Rite. I think it will clarify a few things. Also study other orders, many other orders. I have found Masonry isn't controlled by Masons at all, so it appears Masons run the world but they simply submit blindly to the will of other groups. Its all apart of Hegelian Dialectics, both the Mother Church, British Monarchy, and Masonry are controlled by a core elect.
I don't know why you even interviewed these Masons, it seems that you've already made up your mind concerning them anyway. You can't interview someone about a book that they haven't read. The only piece of advice I can give is to keep researching,keep an open mind and try not to speak so authoritatively about something you know nothing about.And don't worry,it's ok! Admitting to not know something is the first step to true learning. Being wrong should be a celebration of newly acquired knowledge
I admire your fellows search for answers on this matter, And I like the fact that you were asking this gentleman actual questions, but I do suggest you find yourself a lttle more updated reading material on this subject, perhaps a book by Christopher Hodapp and listen to what he says. I would reccomend his book intitled Freemasonry for Dummies.
isn't morals and dogma the booklet by Pike? The one where it states CLEARLY that LUCIFER IS GOD? The one that says freemasonry is for LUCIFER? could have sworn it stated that precisely in it from what i recall. i got a list of 34deg-90deg masonic titles too... the GATEKEEPER OF THE TRODOGLITES WAS THE 90TH DEGREE! TROGLODITES of all things. Land of OG (GOG)! crazy crazy stuff.
@pamaspamas oops... it's spelled as : TROGLODYTES. yeah i notice alot of masons stand behind it as though it is well meaning, to them perhaps it is, but there's always the ignorant who don't know what they are actually being used for in a greater agenda. good intentions can lead to hell, in otherwords....
@pamaspamas What?!? You arent going with Alex "Super Saiyan" Jones' 360 degrees? Where is the grunkalunkas, the umoos, or the blahtyblahs? Or maybe you are listening to Bill "I forgot to mention earlier, but I was also a vampire" Schnoebelen's 90 degrees. Or maybe it is some other delusional "i know more about Masonry than Masons" fearmonger. I might suggest you try to verify those stupid claims. Oh, and you might want to research the Taxil Hoax, the origin of the Lucifer... well hoax.
@BeukendaalMason going with who? i don't care about those guys. i go with MYSELF. no, i did not get it from any of them. it's from freemason documents. Lucifer sucks by the way. so does god. it's all bu##s##t..
Morals and Dogma explain the remaining 29 "side" degrees of the Scottish Rite.
If one actually reads the book, which most people don't, Masons or those who oppose it, it can CLEARLY be seen that Freemasonry is not a conspiracy to take over the world but take a GOOD man and makes him better.
Masonry CANNOT take a BAD man and make him good.
Morals and Dogma enforces and the ingrain morals of a good man.
Mat 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things:
This kid Is a crazed nut job so happy an overly aggressive to try and prove a point or trip up the mason. What u read on the Internet is not 100% true these conspiracies have been going on forever give it up n get a life. No one is out to get you, ur just a crazed human that is brainwashed by the Internet
You don't get order from chaos without intelligent intervention. Sorry to tell you guys, but Bible=true, all other theologies=totally false. I didn't want to believe it myself, but it's reality & subjective opinion won't change that...
there is no way that a scottish rite mason would not know about morals and dogma. either that guy has no idea about his own organization or he is playing dumb.
@TheFlex21 spot on...but to add to what you say, from my personal experience of a standard Freemason (albeit fairly high up in his lodge) , he QUESTIONS NOTHING, ACCEPTS EVERYTHING HE IS TOLD FROM TOP TO BOTTOM...he thinks he has 'secret knowledge', it's clear to me he switched off his questioning mind as soon as he joined and doesnt want to question anything...he just thinks he's special and a 'secret Indiana JOnes'...he told me with great pride that Lucifer is their PATRON!!! ITS SICK, REALLY
@truthseaker1 have u ever seen SHUTTER ISLAND. well guess wat leo decaprio is a depicion of u. u believe this fantasy world and UR thruth that u have no real grasp of reality
I should add too, that it is my understanding that the lodges differ from country to country in their particular slant. If the essay I read was correct it claimed the English lodges to have a more religious angle, and the French not so, with also a woman's lodge their too. My gut says Freemasons are not your enemy, and that is based on trusting my experiences. You'll always have the corrupt few in any organization though, however well intentioned.
I met the Grand Master from Lille in France a couple of years ago. Dated his daughter, and learned a lot from an old François Mitterrand lecture that I found in an old magazine in a B&B. In short it claims to be a circle of love. I can say that her dad didn't have a bad bone in his body. Did a lot for drug addicts and was really quite a pleasant and down to earth chap with an interest in history. I went to the Cotton Hall with him in Ypres (site of the main trench warfare of WWI).
@truthseaker1 masonry doesnt interfere with ANY relgion. that is if u have a strong foundation of faith. and the Illuminati doesnt exist. ur blaming a long dead group for present events. thats delusional.
I used to be a Mason - meaning I no longer attend the lodge nor read their literature.
In watching this video, it's clear that neither the holder of the book nor the Mason they are debating with know what they're talking about really. I'm not professing to know either. One thing I do know is when something doesn't add up.
I would have shut this man's response about brotherhood and love down by asking one question: If the organiztion is truly about promoting love, why is it a secret group?
I had posted a comment for this video on your other video about the Masonic Temple. My comments kept getting an error response,
I wanted to say that you sound like an intelligent person who has come up with valid questions. I may not agree with your agenda, but I will defend your right to say what you think. The inability of this fellow to respond intelligently to your questions is not a reflection of all Masons, but it IS a reflection of the point you were trying to make.
This book was published in the southern juristiction of the united states. It was also a book that was more a study of ancient and modern religions and is not and was never a handbook or bible of Freemasonry.
Outside of the southern juristiction in the united stats, (except maybe the northern to a lesser extent) it means nothing, except for being an interesting book written by a brother mason.
The Masonic craft is built upon concentric circles with a common point. Those on the outer degrees (Outer circles) are filled with good, kind, people who know nothing so as to keep the bloodhound of truth off from the scent.
Perhaps you should be content with your playstation and leave knowledge to those who truly seek her. Alexander Pope (1688 - 1744) in An Essay on Criticism, 1709
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again."
The Meaning;
A small amount of knowledge can cause people to think they are more expert than they really are.
Perhaps you should be content with your submission to indoctrination and leave knowledge to those who do not blindly seek it. "Formid out of the materials of his lodge behold a master mason rare whos mystic portrait does declare the secrets of freemasonry fair for all to read and see but few there are to whom theyre known tho they so plainly here are shown" The Meaning: You are being lied to. If you truly want to seek truth, than I suggest you leave the lodge and find it on your own.
I don't even know why i am saying this, but here goes.
The quote you are referring to on page 819 is intended to to prevent just exactly what you are doing in the video.
The actual truth of the symbols are revealed to those who truly want to know, for as you may well know, even in a distinguished Fraternity such as Freemasonry, some initiates just want the "title" of Master Mason without any of the work, or dare i say are dubious or even perhaps have ill intent.
Just as anyone could and do find different meanings in the bible, for example, the true meaning is for the one who is serious about the work involved.
What you are assuming is deception is actually hidden for the one who truly wants it.
A buried treasure is not out in the open for just anyone.
Mat 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
@weavingspider Why do you keep on with all of this Alex Jones/ Conspracy tripe. Why don't you be your own man? Petition your local Masonic Lodge and find out for yourself. I have never been content with what others say. I have to find out for myself.
@weavingspider Actually, what that quote means is that certain things can be displayed in plain view of the public without the public knowing what it is or means. Only those in the Fraternity would be able to understand it. It's much like someone who doesn't understand algebra can look at the numbers and letters and not understand while at the same time, someone with knowledge of algebra can see clear as day.
I am not sure what comment you are referring to as I reread them all, and possibly you just might have, just as most do who post on youtube, a condition called, Selective Perception;
Description;
We will tend to perceive things according to our beliefs more than as they really are, and react accordingly.
Not that , that is a bad thing, but one should keep an open mind or they just might miss out on the true path that has been laid out for them.
Ever get that feeling yuo just don't want to respond back to someone because there will be no progress made? Ever get that feeling? Oh great master of secrets....come on your as low down as it gets in Masonry, you are just part of the established front.
@TheSquareNCompass Brother forget these people. they are merely false prophets swaying and dooming others to hell by teaching falseness as truth, love with hate, tolerance with intolerance. they clearly have bought into leo taxil and his hoax. a man who blatently made fun of anyone who believed him and mocked them until his death. they don do research and they twist anything to SUIT THERE LIVES! i be they twist the bible to justify their actions.
@TheSquareNCompass There is no need to be insulting. This fellow is asking valid questions, and is a seeker for truth in his own way. As a Mason, you need to have your own answers to his questions. He was being respectful and asking sincerely, insults are a reflection of your own lack of 'rhetoric'.
The freemasons were 100% behind the American Revolution and the Constitution...........
BUT
why has the Constitution now been trashed with UN treaties,Executive orders,patriot acts,surveilance laws,
crony globalist coorporate curruption!!
why have the Freemasons not spoken out about the Federal Reserve act which was unconstitutionlally introduced in 1913,the IRS and all of the other unconstitutional enslaving laws!?.....
Poor poor weaving spider. You who never have set foot in a lodge will never know the true secrets of Freemasonry. You grasp at straws from individual brothers when you and your cameraman will forever be cowans to the rest of us. Petition a lodge and if received, you will then have your answers.
And by the way I'm a Scottish Rite Mason AND I have read Albert Pike's book.
"Free Masonry does promise one thing though,it promises it's members, that they will appear at THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT,the Judgment of the Damned,as the Holy Bible has stated.Scary stuff.
When the Pope makes a rule or Papal Bull,he is thought to be INFOULABLE,(which is blasphemy),but it still does not change the FACT that the R.C.C. is bound by his edicts,same as FMs and Albert Pike.Pike was the POPE of contemporary Free Masonry and what he said was LAW! Now just like RCCs that don't read their Bibles,Masons are still bound by Pikes words,because they come NOT Pike,but from the FMs false god Lucifer,doubt it NOT!
What Jesus Christ said is hidden is esoteric is the Occult. No mason has to answer to a dumb christian by the order and law of The United States Constitution. The sheeple u want to awaken them. Fine. But so many have tried I try and I see u are a good soul to try but do not cast pearls before swine. And all occult org are protected. U can't touch them. U should be AC/DC attack Christians destroy christians and I mean mentally with reason not with force. The church is a lie Jesus is not
Weaving spider. U fucking christians make me sick. Christianity burned millions at the stake. The Constitution protects a persons right to follow whatever God he or she so wishes. Illuminate are evil Freemasons are not illuminate. I'm loving the fall of Christianity. The bible is coded. What Jesus said is not for masses to know unless seek. But there too stupid to seek
Is it just me, or are this guy's responses perfectly reasonable? Why keep interrupting a man while he' s answering your questions when he doesn't have to? Listen, move on to your next question, listen, move on to the next, etc.
oh... and to the lispy kid in the video - do your homework first - that's a concordant body you're nattering about, and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with these guys. it's like badgering trekkies about scientology.
And yet his family still reaps billions off the sale of his tarot deck while you're living in complete and total obscurity. Hmmmm. Perhaps it's time to reassess your station in the "who's an authority" argument because to any impartial observer you are obviously not. It's also funny how grand lodges all across the country told John Ankerberg when he put together his expose of the Masonic lodge that Waite IS a "World Authority" on the teachings of Masonry.
Yep, Freemasonry has no secrets left. So if you catch the original target the Illuminati, what will you discover? Your hoping the conspiracies are true? Wish to be vindicated on theories of Albert Pike? Want proof the world is controlled by power hungry Illuminati? Do you really want to know who controls the world?... You do, your thoughts and actions create the world. We all do, deeds we do stay with people, influence and create their world. The real conspiracy is ignore.
George Washington was a freemason too. Don't you like George Washington? He did many great things for America and the world. Mozart and Newton were Freemasons too. Are they in the conspiracy too?
You conspiracy people dont really understand what you are talking about. You are all trying to find someone to blame for the worlds problems. How about focusing on the good things in the world? But I dont think youre interested in a better world, you just want to find someone to blame. There are no real secrets left in Masonry anymore, except a Masons trustworthiness. God shine some light into the world, and save us all from ignorance.
freemasonry is like a milked cow right now while the illuminati where the original target, freemasonry got caught unwillingly in the crossfire and ultimatly got acused as being the illuminati and thus critisized to the pointe of total unveiling of freemasonry, while the real snake in the grass (the illuminati) slinks away and fules the fire at the same time to keep eyes of them. of cource thats still blaming people
The school system only fails those who do not wish to improve themselves, take advantage of the challenges that there are, teachers fail to challenge their students, and parents who do not make sure and assist the school in being able to provide the education desired. Unlike Iserbyt's theory it is not a "socialist conspiracy" but a break down of the workings by students, parents, and teachers.
College provides students with challenges to their ways of thinking, which they then have to learn to support or see where their mistakes are. The use of more sources and direct contact provides better information then delving into one source. Colleges also provide hands on work capability as pure theory is never enough. It seems something you could use as you seem to seem to only use very out of date information, authors who are flawed in their research, and the claims of "lying".
These Masons are very nervous and "tap dancing" along and around the issue. Typival 'political tactics' ~ But I'll give him an "B-" for effort. He knows he cannot lie about the truth anymore to the youth of the new millenium.
I can tell you right now that I am nervous. Nervous that the youth of our nation are becoming much more weak and unseeing generation after generation. At least Masons, such as myself, see everyone for who they are and treat each of them with respect when respect is given. And we don't look for handouts or anything free such as the up coming "youth of the new millenium". We work hard towards making ourselves better and work harder to live a fufilling life.
"A very unusual course is to affirm that true masonry is neither a religion, nor consisting of religious aspects. In such case, why does it insist on that road of contention; faith in a great architect of the universe? Why does it require an intellectual adherence to the notion of resurrection to a future life, however resurrection is to be understood? Why are it's rites, in all degrees and under all systems of reality, neither more nor less than pageants of prayer and aspirations?.." CONTINUED
"... Can the third degree of the craft, APART from religion, teach a man how to die as it claims to? What does the lesson of the mystical lecture of the holy royal arch, BY IT'S OWN CLAIMS, impress on it's members concerning the royal arch degree? It inspires it's members with the most exalted ideas of deity. What is this but religion???" ~32nd degree Masonic historian Arthur Edward Waite, considered by Grand lodges and the masonic service association as a "world authority" on masonry
it's funny how Masons have turned the whole world against organized religion but when everyone finds out that Masonry IS a religion their scheming is gonna come back and bite them in the ass SOOOOO hard.
cause maybe, JUST MAYBE, that god is the devil and, despite the fact that it has been clever enough to weasel it's way into every religion's holy book, it's still vilified by them so it has to eventually do away with them/amalgamate them all together if it wants to reign supreme. Derrrrrrrrrp! Way to put 2 and 2 together smart guy. BTW lurn two fuccing spell.
"Each of the pagan gods had, in addition to the public and open, a hidden worship paid to him to which none were admitted but those who had been carefully selected by preparatory ceremonies called initiation. This worship was always termed the Mysteries." ~Mackey's encyclopedia of Freemasonry
"Masonry, successor to the Mysteries, still follows the ancient manner of teaching." ~Albert Pike the 'Pope' and 'Plato' of Freemasonry from his book Morals and Dogma
If you read the Christian bible it will tell you that Jesus laid dead for three days and was resurrected. This is because on the shortest day of the year, the winter solstice, the sun rises to it's lowest degree off of the horizon at it's peak of high noon that it does all year. For the next three days it does not rise any higher but on Dec. 25th it rises one degree higher. Hence God's "Son" the "light of the world" our "risen savior" laying dead for three days and rising again
If you knew jack shit about Masonry you'd understand that Masonic ritual is a form of sun worship, with the GM, SW, and JW standing in the east, west and south, and moving around the lodge three times in this fashion for the purpose of following the sun. This is also why Masonic lodges are typically constructed from east to west, even Duncan's Masonic monitor on sacred texts will tell you that. Dipshit. Are you done making yourself look stupid yet?
PWND! hahahahahahahahah. Forgive my raging obelisk sheerinsanity I know it's a bit much to cram inside your throat. Also, if any of you folks out there watching this would like to know just how legit this guy is then go to my channel and you'll even see one of his fellow Masons ridiculing him for being such a dipshit.
Read Makey you dummy, it is in there! Damn do you ever get tired of being dumb? Go to sacred textsdotcom and read some Makey on symbolism. Read it and then come back
that's who I'm reading right now dipshit. I'm tracking down two quotes in particular from Mackey and Manly P. Hall, so that there can be no misunderstanding about Masonry's teachings and beliefs concerning eugenics and racial purification.
You just answered your own question dipshit. Like it's any fucking coincidence that Masonry is actual sun worship and then all governing states throughout the world right now use symbols that are variations of the sun symbols and other symbols used by the Mysteries. Anyone who's not retarded or attempting to hide the truth can now put 2 and 2 together based on the information I just referred to.
The fucking swastika is a symbol of the sun... And this asshole seriously believes we're so stupid as to not be capable of putting two and two together.
You ARE a MORON but let me slow it down for you. What I meant was Masons all over the world with different faiths and beliefs. If you think you have solved some fucking mystery you are as stupid as you seem. You haven`t found anything that hasn`t always been there. Some say sun, some say Satan, some say alchemy. You think you know what symbols mean? You don`t know squat but keep trying you are a very amusing lil turd
Way to attack my character instead of the information I referred to haha. That illustrates beyond any shadow of a doubt that you are FULL OF SHIT. Ok people, you can read Duncan's Masonic monitor on Sacred Texts and it tells us that Masonic lodges are constructed from East to West for the purpose of FOLLOWING THE SUN. The GM, SW, and JW stand in the east, west and south, and move form one position to the other for the purpose of following the sun. THE SWASTIKA IS A SYMBOL OF THE SUN. pwnd! haha
You just proved why Duncan's Monitor is not an accurate on Masonry as the position of the Wardens and Master are based on something entirely different. But continue to base your information on a 100+ year old book (and other 100+ year old books), it shows a "great accuracy" in your arguements (if you couldnt tell, that was sarcasm). The swastika also meant life and good luck and the Nazi's didnt use it for either of those meanings either.
No, I continue to use the hard copy I am in possession of (don't believe me? Go look at the main image I used for my channel. It's a picture of the cover), which was printed as little as three decades ago but is still the exact same thing, word for word, as Duncan's Monitor on Sacred Texts, despite the fact that it was printed roughly a century ago. Apparently nothing has changed pertaining to the ritual despite your feeble attempts to lie by claiming that it has.
And the swastika is also a symbol used by the RELIGION collectively known as the Mysteries. Which Albert Pike tells us Masonry is the successor of, even if he considers it not as prestigious as it once was, which is all that was illustrated in the quote you provided. Nowhere did he say that it wasn't the modern incarnation of the ancient Mysteries.
Actually he does. Page 624. The term successor also does not mean what you wish it to be. Masonry has taken the place of, not the continuation of, the "Mysteries" which used in Pike's Morals and Dogma as a means of learning, not a religion. Pike states at p. 161 that Masonry is not a religion. I thought you had read the book? I guess that whole comprehension thing still eludes you.
haha you guys are fuckin ridiculous, "This word now means something completely different that what it actually means because I want it to!" All anyone has to do to prove you're still a bad liar is go type that word into dictionary(dot)com
I have read it and it spectacularly reinforces the exact point I was trying to make, which is that Masonry is a system of sun worship, and horrible atrocities have been committed all throughout history by organizations of men closely related to systems of sun worship. The Swastika was a symbol of the sun. The Vatican contains has the Phallic Obelisk of the Egyptian sun god Osiris, who's story is re-hashed in the Master Masons ritual of Hiram Abiff.
I thought Masonry was "Satan worship" or "Luciferian" or "Baphomet worship" (all of which you have claimed). Now its "Sun Worship"? Is shapeshifting interdimensional aliens next? (I think thats the progression). I think you need to figure out what is "Sun worship" and who actually are "Sun Worshippers". Hitler (Nazi's) based his system on elevation of Hitler, Communists were Athiests, and to claim that the Catholic Church is "Sun Worshiping" is true ignorance. And the Hiram Abiff allegory?
Yet the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus is based directly on God's "son" the "light of the world" who laid dead for three days and is resurrected just like the sun in the sky during the winter solstice. This is common knowledge nowadays and if you're unfamiliar that either makes you an ignoramus or a bald faced liar. In all incarnations of the Mysteries light, fire, and the sun have always represented the demiurgos a.k.a. the devil, whatever you wish to call it.
Jerusalem is located at approximately 31 degrees north latitude, you currently live around 34 degree north latitude. Does the sun disappear for three days during the winter solace at your house? No? Then why would it at a lower latitude?
There would have never been a winter solace that the sun disappeared for three days in Jerusalem. In almost all ancient religions light and the sun are symbols of good (or good God), not the "demiurgos". Loks like you are the ignoramus (or liar).
No one ever claimed the sun disappeared. Therefore this comment is of no relevance whatsoever. Looks like you're the ignoramus because you obviously completely misunderstood what I was saying, and, seeing as how that's the case, coupled with the facts that your leaders admit to having deceived you and that you've already been caught in a blatant lie, I'd go so far as to assert that YOU are the one who has completely misunderstood Pike and the religion of eugenics known as the Mysteries.
I need to know the name of the guy talking to the freemason, he has a really good interview which i cannot find. Please help.
rifacalifa 6 days ago
I need toknow
rifacalifa 6 days ago
Albert Pike was the Sovereign Grand Inspector General 33rd Degree of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Aincient and Accepted Rite it is an Appendent Order and not superior to Craft Freemasonry. Pikes authority is within that order. and that covered a geographical area from the Atlantic Coast of Florida to the Western Borders of Texas. If they have read all of the pages [836] and understood it. I would be amazed
malkaraatgw1 1 month ago in playlist Freemasonry & albert pike
I love it when a person gets a paragraph and thinks that they have solved a GREAT mystery. What action do Masons take? Look at the different charities that we promote, the millions of dollars we donate to research for Shriners Hospitals, we do research for blindness and so and so forth. These guys need to get a life.
walterkeathley 2 months ago
99%) beleive in him? no because it would be ludicrous to beleive so
nameless3450 3 months ago
in this whole video I hear the accusers speaking and never actually listening to a thing these people said, it shows that the people who made this video are nothing more than immature people who just want to create conflict. That book is not ven apart of a masonic "syllabus" if you will. I remember hearing a guy who was plastered all over the news for a week about how he said he was the rebirth of Jesus Christ and people followed him and beleived this, does that make all christians (the other
nameless3450 3 months ago
The producers should do there research with regards to Freemasonry Moarals and Dogma was writen for members of the Southern Jurisdiction Aincient and Accepted Scottish Rite by Albert Pike. rather than demonstrateing thier knowledge shows a deep of ignorance.
malkaraatgw1 3 months ago
the real evil here is that theyre Canadians!
Afroxec 3 months ago
the purpose of lodge is to preform ritual, something i doubt the clowns here will ever understand....
forwardpdx 4 months ago
lol, morals and dogma is extremely complicated, i love how complete idiots read through it and think they no shit, when they do not. you cant just read through that book, it doesnt work, it requires a shit ton of additional research.... and then again if you read it just looking for evil, then you will make it into what you already think it is...
forwardpdx 4 months ago
@Beukendaalmason thanks mate I'm just interested what goes on inside, I wish I was a Mason maybe I would get to know about old secrets of the world. Your a Mason do you think I would?
forks74 5 months ago
Can you just walk in a freemason lodge and have a look?
forks74 5 months ago
@forks74 Not really, people arent always at the Lodge building to allow people access (the buildings arent always in use and would be locked). But you can contact your local Lodge and arrange to see it, see when people might be at the lodge building to talk to or take a look (Lodge events, ect), and some even rent out their buildings. Some Grand Lodge websites even have virtual tours of the buildings.
BeukendaalMason 5 months ago
2:43 family guy laugh xD
Grayfox3214 5 months ago
You might have had a little more sucess had you offered your "information" in written form. I am one of the youngest in my Lodge and dabble with computers, but many do not. Come to think of it that wouldn't have helped after all. Having the brass to show up and tell these old guys what they were ACTUALLY doing in the Lodge would have shot any of your credibilty to blazes..
JTB1956 7 months ago
Okay, where do I start?
First off, Albert Pike did not speak for freemasonry. Morals and Dogma is not a Masonic text. It was written by a mason, but It would never be used as a volume of sacred law in a lodge. It was his own philosophical take on humanity, religion, and the teaching of masonry. There is no rule book or canonized doctrine used in masonry.
Initiates are not intentionally misled. Remember that people spoke and wrote differently back then.
The initiate is allowed to make his
shavefan12 7 months ago
@shavefan12 your last comment is a fail
AntBanks2626 6 months ago
For the ones its all about devil, just go to the gnostics ;)
Grayfox3214 5 months ago
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slayerforhire 7 months ago
should've shown where pike said the true light is lucifer.
filoIII 7 months ago
@filoIII you understand that reference is not meaning satan, Pike was of a different time and they used language differently, meanings of terms change, think about the orginal meaning of pretender, it practically means the opposite today. If we judged the consitution by the men who signed it and what else they wrote, it would not be practical. Likewise with ancient leaders of civic groups.
itissomeoneelse 7 months ago
@itissomeoneelse "Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!" [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p. 321.]--Either you're ignorant about masonry or are lying to protect the "craft." Pike was from the 1800's. Not the 900's. Satan worship.
filoIII 7 months ago
@filoIII Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! means "isn't it ironic", maybe that clears it up for you. dont read things into it, think about its in historic context. if your determined to find satan somewhere, i guess you will succeed. just google lucifer is not satan and you will get lots of explanation from nonmasonic sources about the misconception of Lucifer.
itissomeoneelse 7 months ago
@itissomeoneelse I'll stick w/ the Bible's teaching on who lucifer/satan is, thank you much.
filoIII 7 months ago
@filoIII as you should in the context of the Bible, outside that context being so narrow in reading may lead you to imputing wrong meaning to words, as it appears to be the case here. But even if you stick with the Bible, you must realize Lucifer is mentioned only once in Isaiah 14:12
itissomeoneelse 7 months ago
CONT it was odd since the word is latin not hebrew, read the text closely and if you can go to the hebrew --- close exam shows this text makes no reference to Satan, but that was imputed by the Romans and later the in the King James Bible.
itissomeoneelse 7 months ago
@itissomeoneelse The heretical catholic manuscripts change it from lucifer to morning star as the one who fell from heaven. The morning star is Jesus in Revelation. The AV does NOT come from the same sources and the catholic bible, including the false perversions of today that come from those same catholic manuscripts. I'm just nutty enough to believe that ol' Book, how 'bout you? Reckon not.
filoIII 7 months ago
@filoIII i could go on, but i suppose you will say the dead sea scrolls are a hoax, you have been given an explanation, God Be With You.
itissomeoneelse 7 months ago
Freemasons are a bunch of kooks, running around in their stupid robes, standing about on one leg like Captain Long John Silver, chanting all that babble and gibberish.
What a bunch of apes...
nycullaSUCKS 8 months ago
@nycullaSUCKS iq of a brick
dave2806 7 months ago
@dave2806
I quite agree. Since they are FreeMASONS - it is entirely fitting that they would have the IQ of a brick.
I commend your insight!
nycullaSUCKS 7 months ago
A reasoned argument stating that Albert Pike was in the Southern Jurisdiction of the Aincient and Accepted Scottish Rite. His musing do not apply to anyone than himself.
Its so nice to Fundamentalist Christians who are sincere in their beliefs being sincerely wrong.
swingfire0011 8 months ago
hey...can someone explain to me page 548 where there is a statement..."The ejaculation at his grave was repeated three times..."
sounds disgusting
zmc33 9 months ago
Wonderful book.
mikebaal 10 months ago
@GunslingerRoland123 Why do you masons always leave these weird ass cryptic messages on these videos, does the brotherhood include a free lobotomy procedure with membership? And more importantly, do you scottish geezers actually get laid when you speak like a malfunctioning stepford wife to the ladies?
mookixox 10 months ago
Its like this , If I say stand in front of the mirror and hold up your right hand. Then I ask what hand is in the mirror. Some will say left hand, some will say my right hand , and some will say, there is no hand in the mirror. They are all right and correct, but the best, most correct is the third, the adept. SO , some are misled. Oh, IM a Buddhist, not in masonry.
attilaclark 10 months ago
Good-4-fire-wrapping fish within NOW
TheLbb2 11 months ago
So We Are Change has Freemasons?
0rbis2010 11 months ago
@0rbis2010 I'm a mason, I support WAC, have been a "truther" since the day I was born, and will spill every drop of my blood on this soil defending this country at the drop of a hat. No my father was not a mason. Becoming a mason was an act of my own free will and accord, and I wish i hadn't waited so friggin long. The conspiracy theories had me wicked freaked out, but I nutted up, and it's the best thing I ever did.
Maat922 11 months ago
@0rbis2010 yes but the lower levels are no satanic my friend they are very community based and friendly organisation its only once u get over 33rd degree it merges with other organisations and religions.
treverbettis 11 months ago
In this video, you're aggressive, pushy, agitated and belligerent. These men are calm and polite.
It makes me want to become a mason. I'm reading Morals and Dogma right now-- I think it's a very well-written and powerful book. Sounds like the kind of thing I want to be a part of!
nomadtrash99 1 year ago
@nomadtrash99 Because you are an egomaniac. Good luck getting into the Masons without having a father that is in em!
fleckx 1 year ago
We are considered as undesirables, mere man that creates chaos in the world, that MASONS have to place an order of instruction to those who join, sworn to secrecy , therefore the deeds are harmful ......... there is so much information out there now that points to this dishonesty amongst who join the CRAFT....... in order to reache sum satanic surpreme degree ( new world order ) control over every man, every life
LoveThroughTheLens 1 year ago
jeez what a load of crap, they dress up in robes, with hoods, and medallians, around their necks ,dressed like mayors, they recite rituals, and re enact people being murdered, going back to ancient times, and history, and they tell people its like role play in the theatre, i have a book of instruction within my posession, from the masonic hall, they worship ALLAH as their GOD, ring any bells ? ALLAH = BUSH = terroism??? OH??????? yea lol
LoveThroughTheLens 1 year ago
@LoveThroughTheLens
research this : T.T.N.O.T.T.A.L.G.M.H
or T.T.A.L.G.M.H
LoveThroughTheLens 1 year ago
@LoveThroughTheLens You are paranoid and gullible.
cascadejacques 1 year ago
Beyond that, this video actually leaves me very impressed by the Freemasons. Here we have a remarkably ignorant and astonishingly rude and confrontational person being as arrogant and in-your-face as possible, and how do the Masons react? They calmly answer his loaded questions and treat him with the basic respect that he obviously lacks for them. We should be so lucky as to have more Masons in the world, and less like the rude ass who made this video.
cascadejacques 1 year ago 7
@cascadejacques How was this guy even rude?
Tweeterfist 3 months ago
It's a shame these young men are so easily mislead by religious bigots, but sadly it's not surprising. Ironically this guy makes a big deal out of Pike's suggestion that early entrants be intentionally mislead - as if mainstream Christian churches don't do precisely the same thing. As a kid you're taught about Adam & Eve, but it's only when you're of a more mature mind that you learn it's just a myth (except in the view of fundamentalists, of course, but they're a lost cause anyway).
cascadejacques 1 year ago 2
I don't want you to think that I am hostile towards you at all by the way. I respect the fact that you researched and you have a strong opinion on the subject. I applaud you for taking the time to talk to some actual Masons on Masonry instead of collaborating with some nut job. Have a great holiday season and Merry Christmas sir :o)
CALLSIGNxGEPPATO 1 year ago 3
but I went and sat down and ate dinner and drank some coffee with some really good guys. You won't feel out of place and you will probably see that it is really just a big group of really good guys that show a mutual brotherly respect and love to one another regardless of what country, religion, race, or background anyone came from. Freemasons in the US give around 2 million dollars a day away freely in charity in Hospitals, Food, Shelters, etc. And you won't see advertisement for that...
CALLSIGNxGEPPATO 1 year ago 3
So if you really wanted to know what Masonry was about, just go inside and eat dinner with them. Before every stated meeting they usually have a meal and coffee and talk for an hour or so before starting. And that is open to anyone curious... So you could just simply walk in and say, "I have doubts and am curious about what really goes on here" then everyone will probably introduce themselves to you and sit down and shoot the shit with you. When I went the first time I was skeptical on everythin
CALLSIGNxGEPPATO 1 year ago 3
You do bring good questions, but honestly you are basing your entire argument on one book that was more of a personal memoir than a governing doctrine, I am sure that 120 something years ago in Albert Pikes Lodge people entertained it but his book is scoured with personal opinions not actual Masonic Law. You are very energetic and almost hostile to a man that came out to talk to you and answer your questions but you continued to site a book that is irrelevant basically...
CALLSIGNxGEPPATO 1 year ago 2
Lol. Actually that was a personal publication of Albert Pike and in no way has any governing direction in Freemasonry. You went to a Lodge right? So you are showing a book from a 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Mason from the early 1800s to Blue Lodge members... Morals and Dogma if you really read it is more poetry and personal OPINION on what Freemasonry was and meant to Albert Pike in the 1800s... In the South Civil War Era... But at least you are talking to people and not blasting them online lol
CALLSIGNxGEPPATO 1 year ago 2
It is only required of him that he shall weigh what is taught, and give it fair hearing and unprejudiced judgment. Of course, the ancient theosophic and philosophic speculations are NOT EMBODIED AS PART OF THE DOCTRINES OF THE RITE..
This is right in the beginning of the book.
SpannTV 1 year ago
The teachings of these Readings are not sacramental, so far as they go beyond the realm of Morality into those of other domains of Thought and Truth. The ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite uses the word "Dogma" in its true sense, of doctrine, or teaching; and is not dogmatic in the odious sense of that term. EVERYONE IS ENTIRELY FREE TO REJECT AND DISSENT FROM WHATSOEVER HEREIN MAY SEEM TO HIM TO BE UNTRUE AND UNSOUND.
SpannTV 1 year ago 2
Why would you not read the Preface of the book?
SpannTV 1 year ago
@TheSexybadassboy there's a book called "Scotch Rite Masonry Illustrated," by John Blanchard, it has all the degrees of the Scottish Rite. I think it will clarify a few things. Also study other orders, many other orders. I have found Masonry isn't controlled by Masons at all, so it appears Masons run the world but they simply submit blindly to the will of other groups. Its all apart of Hegelian Dialectics, both the Mother Church, British Monarchy, and Masonry are controlled by a core elect.
ATENakaATON 1 year ago
Yeah right! They are a brotherhood of self service.
DualityWorld 1 year ago
I don't know why you even interviewed these Masons, it seems that you've already made up your mind concerning them anyway. You can't interview someone about a book that they haven't read. The only piece of advice I can give is to keep researching,keep an open mind and try not to speak so authoritatively about something you know nothing about.And don't worry,it's ok! Admitting to not know something is the first step to true learning. Being wrong should be a celebration of newly acquired knowledge
todfennell 1 year ago
I admire your fellows search for answers on this matter, And I like the fact that you were asking this gentleman actual questions, but I do suggest you find yourself a lttle more updated reading material on this subject, perhaps a book by Christopher Hodapp and listen to what he says. I would reccomend his book intitled Freemasonry for Dummies.
PBRkwm 1 year ago
isn't morals and dogma the booklet by Pike? The one where it states CLEARLY that LUCIFER IS GOD? The one that says freemasonry is for LUCIFER? could have sworn it stated that precisely in it from what i recall. i got a list of 34deg-90deg masonic titles too... the GATEKEEPER OF THE TRODOGLITES WAS THE 90TH DEGREE! TROGLODITES of all things. Land of OG (GOG)! crazy crazy stuff.
pamaspamas 1 year ago
@pamaspamas oops... it's spelled as : TROGLODYTES. yeah i notice alot of masons stand behind it as though it is well meaning, to them perhaps it is, but there's always the ignorant who don't know what they are actually being used for in a greater agenda. good intentions can lead to hell, in otherwords....
pamaspamas 1 year ago
@pamaspamas What?!? You arent going with Alex "Super Saiyan" Jones' 360 degrees? Where is the grunkalunkas, the umoos, or the blahtyblahs? Or maybe you are listening to Bill "I forgot to mention earlier, but I was also a vampire" Schnoebelen's 90 degrees. Or maybe it is some other delusional "i know more about Masonry than Masons" fearmonger. I might suggest you try to verify those stupid claims. Oh, and you might want to research the Taxil Hoax, the origin of the Lucifer... well hoax.
BeukendaalMason 1 year ago
@BeukendaalMason going with who? i don't care about those guys. i go with MYSELF. no, i did not get it from any of them. it's from freemason documents. Lucifer sucks by the way. so does god. it's all bu##s##t..
pamaspamas 1 year ago
Morals and Dogma explain the remaining 29 "side" degrees of the Scottish Rite.
If one actually reads the book, which most people don't, Masons or those who oppose it, it can CLEARLY be seen that Freemasonry is not a conspiracy to take over the world but take a GOOD man and makes him better.
Masonry CANNOT take a BAD man and make him good.
Morals and Dogma enforces and the ingrain morals of a good man.
Mat 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things:
TheSquareNCompass 1 year ago
Did this 32degree mason just say the Scottish rite is meaningless???
GrateMusik 1 year ago
I think its even worse than that; the truth is revealed to those who are only able to know
AVeLLiiii 1 year ago
MASONS HAVE THERE OWN BIBLE
atls904boy 1 year ago
This kid Is a crazed nut job so happy an overly aggressive to try and prove a point or trip up the mason. What u read on the Internet is not 100% true these conspiracies have been going on forever give it up n get a life. No one is out to get you, ur just a crazed human that is brainwashed by the Internet
Aerospace357 1 year ago
You don't get order from chaos without intelligent intervention. Sorry to tell you guys, but Bible=true, all other theologies=totally false. I didn't want to believe it myself, but it's reality & subjective opinion won't change that...
fatpurpleturtle 1 year ago
@fatpurpleturtle
"the bible is right & all your native culture is wrong"
you fucking moron
TheFlex21 1 year ago
all i can say is the mason is the cool one in here, hehe..
ZenMoodi 1 year ago
sry but the tone of your voices dont make it easy for those freemasons to not directly jump into defence-mechanisms. talk cool to em
ZenMoodi 1 year ago
there is no way that a scottish rite mason would not know about morals and dogma. either that guy has no idea about his own organization or he is playing dumb.
spacemonkey086 1 year ago
the top level masons have power
but the average-joe-mason is just a typical dumbass
TheFlex21 1 year ago
@TheFlex21 spot on...but to add to what you say, from my personal experience of a standard Freemason (albeit fairly high up in his lodge) , he QUESTIONS NOTHING, ACCEPTS EVERYTHING HE IS TOLD FROM TOP TO BOTTOM...he thinks he has 'secret knowledge', it's clear to me he switched off his questioning mind as soon as he joined and doesnt want to question anything...he just thinks he's special and a 'secret Indiana JOnes'...he told me with great pride that Lucifer is their PATRON!!! ITS SICK, REALLY
vincent4500 1 year ago
@vincent4500
to change the subject a little bit, did you see ex US marine Ken O'keefe: Israeli Mossad on 9/11?
watch?v=BcVTI09T5D4
TheFlex21 1 year ago
@truthseaker1 have u ever seen SHUTTER ISLAND. well guess wat leo decaprio is a depicion of u. u believe this fantasy world and UR thruth that u have no real grasp of reality
mm3rdwarrior 1 year ago
@truthseaker1 Perhaps you should pray for all the corrupt preachers in christianity who have used God and His word for their selfish purposes.
Pull out the beam that is in thine own eye first so thou shalt see clearly.
TheSquareNCompass 1 year ago
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@truthseaker1 so enlighten me wat is the "divine order"
mm3rdwarrior 1 year ago
@truthseaker1 so nlightenme what is "the divine order"
mm3rdwarrior 1 year ago
I should add too, that it is my understanding that the lodges differ from country to country in their particular slant. If the essay I read was correct it claimed the English lodges to have a more religious angle, and the French not so, with also a woman's lodge their too. My gut says Freemasons are not your enemy, and that is based on trusting my experiences. You'll always have the corrupt few in any organization though, however well intentioned.
Blueformdesign 1 year ago
I met the Grand Master from Lille in France a couple of years ago. Dated his daughter, and learned a lot from an old François Mitterrand lecture that I found in an old magazine in a B&B. In short it claims to be a circle of love. I can say that her dad didn't have a bad bone in his body. Did a lot for drug addicts and was really quite a pleasant and down to earth chap with an interest in history. I went to the Cotton Hall with him in Ypres (site of the main trench warfare of WWI).
Blueformdesign 1 year ago
@truthseaker1 masonry doesnt interfere with ANY relgion. that is if u have a strong foundation of faith. and the Illuminati doesnt exist. ur blaming a long dead group for present events. thats delusional.
mm3rdwarrior 1 year ago
I used to be a Mason - meaning I no longer attend the lodge nor read their literature.
In watching this video, it's clear that neither the holder of the book nor the Mason they are debating with know what they're talking about really. I'm not professing to know either. One thing I do know is when something doesn't add up.
I would have shut this man's response about brotherhood and love down by asking one question: If the organiztion is truly about promoting love, why is it a secret group?
SoooooRich 1 year ago
I had posted a comment for this video on your other video about the Masonic Temple. My comments kept getting an error response,
I wanted to say that you sound like an intelligent person who has come up with valid questions. I may not agree with your agenda, but I will defend your right to say what you think. The inability of this fellow to respond intelligently to your questions is not a reflection of all Masons, but it IS a reflection of the point you were trying to make.
hangyballs 1 year ago
@hangyballs
have you read Clausen's Commentaries on Morals and Dogma, written by Henry Clausen?
TheFlex21 1 year ago
99.99% of Master Masons and probably 99% of 32nd degree Scottish Rite Masons have not read this book. I'm one of them.
hatrockscave 1 year ago
@hatrockscave
There is a very good reason for that.
This book was published in the southern juristiction of the united states. It was also a book that was more a study of ancient and modern religions and is not and was never a handbook or bible of Freemasonry.
Outside of the southern juristiction in the united stats, (except maybe the northern to a lesser extent) it means nothing, except for being an interesting book written by a brother mason.
marsoft4647 1 year ago
i applaud your courage weaving spider, especially your arrest for the toronto drills
stett99 1 year ago
The Masonic craft is built upon concentric circles with a common point. Those on the outer degrees (Outer circles) are filled with good, kind, people who know nothing so as to keep the bloodhound of truth off from the scent.
Cheers
stevecamo1 1 year ago
Great book!
mikebaal 1 year ago
Perhaps you should be content with your playstation and leave knowledge to those who truly seek her. Alexander Pope (1688 - 1744) in An Essay on Criticism, 1709
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again."
The Meaning;
A small amount of knowledge can cause people to think they are more expert than they really are.
TheSquareNCompass 2 years ago 8
weavingspider 2 years ago 5
I don't even know why i am saying this, but here goes.
The quote you are referring to on page 819 is intended to to prevent just exactly what you are doing in the video.
The actual truth of the symbols are revealed to those who truly want to know, for as you may well know, even in a distinguished Fraternity such as Freemasonry, some initiates just want the "title" of Master Mason without any of the work, or dare i say are dubious or even perhaps have ill intent.
TheSquareNCompass 2 years ago 6
Furthermore, I would never suggest that you leave your fraternity for something that I feel would benefit you in my opinion.
That, in and of itself would be self centered of me to assume that my choice for you is better that what you believe is.
Wouldn't it?
TheSquareNCompass 2 years ago
@TheSquareNCompass I am curious why they would give this book to masons after they achieve master mason.
theez14 1 year ago
Just as anyone could and do find different meanings in the bible, for example, the true meaning is for the one who is serious about the work involved.
What you are assuming is deception is actually hidden for the one who truly wants it.
A buried treasure is not out in the open for just anyone.
Mat 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
TheSquareNCompass 2 years ago
@weavingspider Why do you keep on with all of this Alex Jones/ Conspracy tripe. Why don't you be your own man? Petition your local Masonic Lodge and find out for yourself. I have never been content with what others say. I have to find out for myself.
myway43 1 year ago
@weavingspider Actually, what that quote means is that certain things can be displayed in plain view of the public without the public knowing what it is or means. Only those in the Fraternity would be able to understand it. It's much like someone who doesn't understand algebra can look at the numbers and letters and not understand while at the same time, someone with knowledge of algebra can see clear as day.
ducktapepilot 1 year ago
@TheSquareNCompass Perhaps you should read your own comment again, and see how much of a hypocrite you are.
Boo5552 2 years ago
I am not sure what comment you are referring to as I reread them all, and possibly you just might have, just as most do who post on youtube, a condition called, Selective Perception;
Description;
We will tend to perceive things according to our beliefs more than as they really are, and react accordingly.
Not that , that is a bad thing, but one should keep an open mind or they just might miss out on the true path that has been laid out for them.
Good luck in your search for true knowledge.
TheSquareNCompass 2 years ago
Ever get that feeling yuo just don't want to respond back to someone because there will be no progress made? Ever get that feeling? Oh great master of secrets....come on your as low down as it gets in Masonry, you are just part of the established front.
Boo5552 1 year ago
When you get that feeling, go with it.
TheSquareNCompass 1 year ago
@TheSquareNCompass Brother forget these people. they are merely false prophets swaying and dooming others to hell by teaching falseness as truth, love with hate, tolerance with intolerance. they clearly have bought into leo taxil and his hoax. a man who blatently made fun of anyone who believed him and mocked them until his death. they don do research and they twist anything to SUIT THERE LIVES! i be they twist the bible to justify their actions.
mm3rdwarrior 1 year ago
@TheSquareNCompass There is no need to be insulting. This fellow is asking valid questions, and is a seeker for truth in his own way. As a Mason, you need to have your own answers to his questions. He was being respectful and asking sincerely, insults are a reflection of your own lack of 'rhetoric'.
hangyballs 1 year ago
@TheSquareNCompass Good to hear the voice of reason. God bless you. Eel River Lodge #510.
myway43 1 year ago
The freemasons were 100% behind the American Revolution and the Constitution...........
BUT
why has the Constitution now been trashed with UN treaties,Executive orders,patriot acts,surveilance laws,
crony globalist coorporate curruption!!
why have the Freemasons not spoken out about the Federal Reserve act which was unconstitutionlally introduced in 1913,the IRS and all of the other unconstitutional enslaving laws!?.....
why ?
where are you masons
Hroark7 2 years ago
Poor poor weaving spider. You who never have set foot in a lodge will never know the true secrets of Freemasonry. You grasp at straws from individual brothers when you and your cameraman will forever be cowans to the rest of us. Petition a lodge and if received, you will then have your answers.
And by the way I'm a Scottish Rite Mason AND I have read Albert Pike's book.
1989green 2 years ago
"Free Masonry does promise one thing though,it promises it's members, that they will appear at THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT,the Judgment of the Damned,as the Holy Bible has stated.Scary stuff.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
When the Pope makes a rule or Papal Bull,he is thought to be INFOULABLE,(which is blasphemy),but it still does not change the FACT that the R.C.C. is bound by his edicts,same as FMs and Albert Pike.Pike was the POPE of contemporary Free Masonry and what he said was LAW! Now just like RCCs that don't read their Bibles,Masons are still bound by Pikes words,because they come NOT Pike,but from the FMs false god Lucifer,doubt it NOT!
CBALLEN 2 years ago
What Jesus Christ said is hidden is esoteric is the Occult. No mason has to answer to a dumb christian by the order and law of The United States Constitution. The sheeple u want to awaken them. Fine. But so many have tried I try and I see u are a good soul to try but do not cast pearls before swine. And all occult org are protected. U can't touch them. U should be AC/DC attack Christians destroy christians and I mean mentally with reason not with force. The church is a lie Jesus is not
janityy 2 years ago
Weaving spider. U fucking christians make me sick. Christianity burned millions at the stake. The Constitution protects a persons right to follow whatever God he or she so wishes. Illuminate are evil Freemasons are not illuminate. I'm loving the fall of Christianity. The bible is coded. What Jesus said is not for masses to know unless seek. But there too stupid to seek
janityy 2 years ago
EXACTLY.
tobyn123 2 years ago
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ET253 2 years ago
Bunch of douche bags. Leave these people alone and get back to your bong in you mother's basement.
Arashau 2 years ago
Is it just me, or are this guy's responses perfectly reasonable? Why keep interrupting a man while he' s answering your questions when he doesn't have to? Listen, move on to your next question, listen, move on to the next, etc.
irishpunk2004 2 years ago
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tim42123 2 years ago
oh... and to the lispy kid in the video - do your homework first - that's a concordant body you're nattering about, and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with these guys. it's like badgering trekkies about scientology.
666sheerinsanity666 2 years ago
suck satan's cock.....
webscorpion007 2 years ago
we didn't ask what you do in your free time, internet tough guy.
FOR GREAT LULZ, LOOK AT THIS LOSERS VIDEOS!!!!1
conspiracyfag on the loose.
666sheerinsanity666 2 years ago
hahahahahah bill hicks r.i.p.
ET253 2 years ago
who thinks waite is a masonic authority? he was a pretentious, bloated blowhard. i haven't even joined and i can see through his garbage.
the book of lies - now THERE'S some worthwhile reading.
btw - arguing with religious kooks on internets=instant fail
hiram ftw!
666sheerinsanity666 2 years ago
And yet his family still reaps billions off the sale of his tarot deck while you're living in complete and total obscurity. Hmmmm. Perhaps it's time to reassess your station in the "who's an authority" argument because to any impartial observer you are obviously not. It's also funny how grand lodges all across the country told John Ankerberg when he put together his expose of the Masonic lodge that Waite IS a "World Authority" on the teachings of Masonry.
ET253 2 years ago
Yep, Freemasonry has no secrets left. So if you catch the original target the Illuminati, what will you discover? Your hoping the conspiracies are true? Wish to be vindicated on theories of Albert Pike? Want proof the world is controlled by power hungry Illuminati? Do you really want to know who controls the world?... You do, your thoughts and actions create the world. We all do, deeds we do stay with people, influence and create their world. The real conspiracy is ignore.
petermead 2 years ago 2
This man is lying..why then do they have a statue of him (Albert Pike) in Washington?
JussPeachy69 2 years ago
George Washington was a freemason too. Don't you like George Washington? He did many great things for America and the world. Mozart and Newton were Freemasons too. Are they in the conspiracy too?
petermead 2 years ago 2
You conspiracy people dont really understand what you are talking about. You are all trying to find someone to blame for the worlds problems. How about focusing on the good things in the world? But I dont think youre interested in a better world, you just want to find someone to blame. There are no real secrets left in Masonry anymore, except a Masons trustworthiness. God shine some light into the world, and save us all from ignorance.
petermead 2 years ago
freemasonry is like a milked cow right now while the illuminati where the original target, freemasonry got caught unwillingly in the crossfire and ultimatly got acused as being the illuminati and thus critisized to the pointe of total unveiling of freemasonry, while the real snake in the grass (the illuminati) slinks away and fules the fire at the same time to keep eyes of them. of cource thats still blaming people
occultninja4 2 years ago
The school system only fails those who do not wish to improve themselves, take advantage of the challenges that there are, teachers fail to challenge their students, and parents who do not make sure and assist the school in being able to provide the education desired. Unlike Iserbyt's theory it is not a "socialist conspiracy" but a break down of the workings by students, parents, and teachers.
BeukendaalMason 2 years ago 2
College provides students with challenges to their ways of thinking, which they then have to learn to support or see where their mistakes are. The use of more sources and direct contact provides better information then delving into one source. Colleges also provide hands on work capability as pure theory is never enough. It seems something you could use as you seem to seem to only use very out of date information, authors who are flawed in their research, and the claims of "lying".
BeukendaalMason 2 years ago
These Masons are very nervous and "tap dancing" along and around the issue. Typival 'political tactics' ~ But I'll give him an "B-" for effort. He knows he cannot lie about the truth anymore to the youth of the new millenium.
1gregmichael 2 years ago
GOOOOOOOOOOD CALL! haha
ET253 2 years ago
I can tell you right now that I am nervous. Nervous that the youth of our nation are becoming much more weak and unseeing generation after generation. At least Masons, such as myself, see everyone for who they are and treat each of them with respect when respect is given. And we don't look for handouts or anything free such as the up coming "youth of the new millenium". We work hard towards making ourselves better and work harder to live a fufilling life.
CamoRAT40 2 years ago 2
"A very unusual course is to affirm that true masonry is neither a religion, nor consisting of religious aspects. In such case, why does it insist on that road of contention; faith in a great architect of the universe? Why does it require an intellectual adherence to the notion of resurrection to a future life, however resurrection is to be understood? Why are it's rites, in all degrees and under all systems of reality, neither more nor less than pageants of prayer and aspirations?.." CONTINUED
ET253 2 years ago
CONTINUED
"... Can the third degree of the craft, APART from religion, teach a man how to die as it claims to? What does the lesson of the mystical lecture of the holy royal arch, BY IT'S OWN CLAIMS, impress on it's members concerning the royal arch degree? It inspires it's members with the most exalted ideas of deity. What is this but religion???" ~32nd degree Masonic historian Arthur Edward Waite, considered by Grand lodges and the masonic service association as a "world authority" on masonry
ET253 2 years ago
it's funny how Masons have turned the whole world against organized religion but when everyone finds out that Masonry IS a religion their scheming is gonna come back and bite them in the ass SOOOOO hard.
ET253 2 years ago
tl;dr - ET253 is a retard.
to be a mason, one must believe in a god. how then, can masonry be 'against organized religion'?
you can't be an atheist mason, fuckwit. lrn2think, not just google.
666sheerinsanity666 2 years ago
cause maybe, JUST MAYBE, that god is the devil and, despite the fact that it has been clever enough to weasel it's way into every religion's holy book, it's still vilified by them so it has to eventually do away with them/amalgamate them all together if it wants to reign supreme. Derrrrrrrrrp! Way to put 2 and 2 together smart guy. BTW lurn two fuccing spell.
ET253 2 years ago
nice circular logic, fucknut.
how is in "every religion's holy book"? what kind of fucking retard are you? did your parents especially inbreed just to get this stripe of moron?
it's not an ANY religion's holy book, so far as I've read.
besides - your comments still contradict each other. by definition, something cannot be 'religious' and 'anti-religious' simultaneously.
so, derp away, cuntface.
666sheerinsanity666 2 years ago
"Each of the pagan gods had, in addition to the public and open, a hidden worship paid to him to which none were admitted but those who had been carefully selected by preparatory ceremonies called initiation. This worship was always termed the Mysteries." ~Mackey's encyclopedia of Freemasonry
"Masonry, successor to the Mysteries, still follows the ancient manner of teaching." ~Albert Pike the 'Pope' and 'Plato' of Freemasonry from his book Morals and Dogma
CONTINUED...
ET253 2 years ago
CONTINUED
If you read the Christian bible it will tell you that Jesus laid dead for three days and was resurrected. This is because on the shortest day of the year, the winter solstice, the sun rises to it's lowest degree off of the horizon at it's peak of high noon that it does all year. For the next three days it does not rise any higher but on Dec. 25th it rises one degree higher. Hence God's "Son" the "light of the world" our "risen savior" laying dead for three days and rising again
CONT
ET253 2 years ago
If you knew jack shit about Masonry you'd understand that Masonic ritual is a form of sun worship, with the GM, SW, and JW standing in the east, west and south, and moving around the lodge three times in this fashion for the purpose of following the sun. This is also why Masonic lodges are typically constructed from east to west, even Duncan's Masonic monitor on sacred texts will tell you that. Dipshit. Are you done making yourself look stupid yet?
ET253 2 years ago
PWND! hahahahahahahahah. Forgive my raging obelisk sheerinsanity I know it's a bit much to cram inside your throat. Also, if any of you folks out there watching this would like to know just how legit this guy is then go to my channel and you'll even see one of his fellow Masons ridiculing him for being such a dipshit.
ET253 2 years ago
Read Makey you dummy, it is in there! Damn do you ever get tired of being dumb? Go to sacred textsdotcom and read some Makey on symbolism. Read it and then come back
Toledowrap 2 years ago
that's who I'm reading right now dipshit. I'm tracking down two quotes in particular from Mackey and Manly P. Hall, so that there can be no misunderstanding about Masonry's teachings and beliefs concerning eugenics and racial purification.
ET253 2 years ago
There are masons all over the world, I wonder how you think that is to be carried out, lol and by whom. Let me know what you find.
Toledowrap 2 years ago
You just answered your own question dipshit. Like it's any fucking coincidence that Masonry is actual sun worship and then all governing states throughout the world right now use symbols that are variations of the sun symbols and other symbols used by the Mysteries. Anyone who's not retarded or attempting to hide the truth can now put 2 and 2 together based on the information I just referred to.
ET253 2 years ago
The fucking swastika is a symbol of the sun... And this asshole seriously believes we're so stupid as to not be capable of putting two and two together.
ET253 2 years ago
You ARE a MORON but let me slow it down for you. What I meant was Masons all over the world with different faiths and beliefs. If you think you have solved some fucking mystery you are as stupid as you seem. You haven`t found anything that hasn`t always been there. Some say sun, some say Satan, some say alchemy. You think you know what symbols mean? You don`t know squat but keep trying you are a very amusing lil turd
Toledowrap 2 years ago
Way to attack my character instead of the information I referred to haha. That illustrates beyond any shadow of a doubt that you are FULL OF SHIT. Ok people, you can read Duncan's Masonic monitor on Sacred Texts and it tells us that Masonic lodges are constructed from East to West for the purpose of FOLLOWING THE SUN. The GM, SW, and JW stand in the east, west and south, and move form one position to the other for the purpose of following the sun. THE SWASTIKA IS A SYMBOL OF THE SUN. pwnd! haha
ET253 2 years ago
You just proved why Duncan's Monitor is not an accurate on Masonry as the position of the Wardens and Master are based on something entirely different. But continue to base your information on a 100+ year old book (and other 100+ year old books), it shows a "great accuracy" in your arguements (if you couldnt tell, that was sarcasm). The swastika also meant life and good luck and the Nazi's didnt use it for either of those meanings either.
BeukendaalMason 2 years ago
No, I continue to use the hard copy I am in possession of (don't believe me? Go look at the main image I used for my channel. It's a picture of the cover), which was printed as little as three decades ago but is still the exact same thing, word for word, as Duncan's Monitor on Sacred Texts, despite the fact that it was printed roughly a century ago. Apparently nothing has changed pertaining to the ritual despite your feeble attempts to lie by claiming that it has.
ET253 2 years ago
And the swastika is also a symbol used by the RELIGION collectively known as the Mysteries. Which Albert Pike tells us Masonry is the successor of, even if he considers it not as prestigious as it once was, which is all that was illustrated in the quote you provided. Nowhere did he say that it wasn't the modern incarnation of the ancient Mysteries.
ET253 2 years ago
Actually he does. Page 624. The term successor also does not mean what you wish it to be. Masonry has taken the place of, not the continuation of, the "Mysteries" which used in Pike's Morals and Dogma as a means of learning, not a religion. Pike states at p. 161 that Masonry is not a religion. I thought you had read the book? I guess that whole comprehension thing still eludes you.
BeukendaalMason 2 years ago
haha you guys are fuckin ridiculous, "This word now means something completely different that what it actually means because I want it to!" All anyone has to do to prove you're still a bad liar is go type that word into dictionary(dot)com
ET253 2 years ago
Read Chapter 25 The Officers of a Lodge in the symbolism of freemasonry byMackey whom you quoted earlier I believe.
Toledowrap 2 years ago
It`S chapter 14 not 25. it is short so I know your ADD shouldn`t kick in, but DO read all.
Toledowrap 2 years ago
I have read it and it spectacularly reinforces the exact point I was trying to make, which is that Masonry is a system of sun worship, and horrible atrocities have been committed all throughout history by organizations of men closely related to systems of sun worship. The Swastika was a symbol of the sun. The Vatican contains has the Phallic Obelisk of the Egyptian sun god Osiris, who's story is re-hashed in the Master Masons ritual of Hiram Abiff.
ET253 2 years ago
I thought Masonry was "Satan worship" or "Luciferian" or "Baphomet worship" (all of which you have claimed). Now its "Sun Worship"? Is shapeshifting interdimensional aliens next? (I think thats the progression). I think you need to figure out what is "Sun worship" and who actually are "Sun Worshippers". Hitler (Nazi's) based his system on elevation of Hitler, Communists were Athiests, and to claim that the Catholic Church is "Sun Worshiping" is true ignorance. And the Hiram Abiff allegory?
BeukendaalMason 2 years ago
Yet the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus is based directly on God's "son" the "light of the world" who laid dead for three days and is resurrected just like the sun in the sky during the winter solstice. This is common knowledge nowadays and if you're unfamiliar that either makes you an ignoramus or a bald faced liar. In all incarnations of the Mysteries light, fire, and the sun have always represented the demiurgos a.k.a. the devil, whatever you wish to call it.
ET253 2 years ago
Jerusalem is located at approximately 31 degrees north latitude, you currently live around 34 degree north latitude. Does the sun disappear for three days during the winter solace at your house? No? Then why would it at a lower latitude?
There would have never been a winter solace that the sun disappeared for three days in Jerusalem. In almost all ancient religions light and the sun are symbols of good (or good God), not the "demiurgos". Loks like you are the ignoramus (or liar).
BeukendaalMason 2 years ago
No one ever claimed the sun disappeared. Therefore this comment is of no relevance whatsoever. Looks like you're the ignoramus because you obviously completely misunderstood what I was saying, and, seeing as how that's the case, coupled with the facts that your leaders admit to having deceived you and that you've already been caught in a blatant lie, I'd go so far as to assert that YOU are the one who has completely misunderstood Pike and the religion of eugenics known as the Mysteries.
ET253 2 years ago