Shaman Training Shamanic Training Tip 2 Sandra Ingerman

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We have to learn this right?

[xwaystranger]

Sandra "became" a shaman in the mid 90's. I suspect she was another Bay Area Trustfunder, who needed a hobby. To be a shaman in any other culture means you are also very familiar with death and the shadow side of life. A journey to the real underworld entails years of disciplined training, not just a drum circle. Real Shamans are born, there are NO volunteers for shamanism. No classes. You have to be found by a Seer, and then activated into shamanism.

[bmbenblog]

@xwaystranger That would be why she does NOT call herself a shaman. Look at her other videos. She is a Shamanic Practitioner, believing that the methods of shamanism, not the pure indigenous practices, are good for our modern culture. Your suspicion that she is a "Bay Area Trustfunder" shows that you came into this discussion with prejudice. Most of the core-shamanic practitioners speak in an unapologetic metaphorical way.

[xwaystranger]

@bmbenblog Not a suspicion. I remember when and where she started. There are NO volunteers for the shamanic path. NONE. She is a New Age volunteer who took a class with Harner. And yes, he is not a shaman either. So we have non shamans beating on drums and charging for their Non Shaman trustfund activities for other wealthy Marin volunteers. Its no wonder that shamanism is now just another Therapy. And real magic is being drained from the world on cruises to the Amazon for the weekend.

[bmbenblog]

@xwaystranger And what great power gave you the authority to make such decisions?

[xwaystranger]

@bmbenblog The Power that you don't have. Otherwise, you would SEE the exact same thing. The Truth.

[bmbenblog]

@xwaystranger lol! good one...take your pills.

[cunnidvd]

@xwaystranger Well excuse her all to hell for trying to practice shamanism you self-righteous twit. Are you the fucking shaman police or just some jerk with a hard on for trust funders.

[surfinbernard77]

@xwaystranger I have to disagree with the 'have to be' comment, stuff can start happening to people for all sorts of different reasons, sometimes the reason is not obvious. In some traditional cultures there may be 'rules' such as yours there but these can vary a great deal, also in the Western world the 'call' can take many forms.

It's a shame that there is so much bickering here, it seems to me that if as many people practiced spirituality as argued about it the world would be a better place.

[OhSleeperAwake]

whats wrong with her eyes, freaky!

[Klearchos84]

@OhSleeperAwake  What's even more freaky though, is what's wrong with YOUR attitude...

[OhSleeperAwake]

@Klearchos84 and your response was kind and loving in attitude ? erm talking about hating haters!

[Klearchos84]

@OhSleeperAwake I didn't waive any kindness and love banner over my head. I am as I am. And I frown upon arrogance and misplaced insults.

As an afterthought, you're the one believing in angels - why don't you go ahead and ask sorry, like you know you should?

Taking responsibility for your actions is a mandatory step in the path to a higher self.

[OhSleeperAwake]

@Klearchos84 her eyes do look weird and kinda freaky and obsessive!

[Klearchos84]

@OhSleeperAwake She does have an intense look - I found it interesting when I stumbled across this vid. Then I noticed your comment, "whats wrong with her eyes, freaky!". And in your profile I read:

" I made this channel to reach out to the world, to be the change i wish to see in the world too and to share my ideas about growth and change, we are all awakening to more love, joy and happiness."

..I found the contradiction hypocritic, at best. Don't you?

[OhSleeperAwake]

@Klearchos84 no i dont think its hypocritic actually. i think being honest is a good thing. i personally wish that there was more honesty and truth in the world so i act that way myself. just because i am honest doesnt mean i dont love people or that i want good change for the world. its a bit obsessive of you actually to be making such a big issue out of this. i find that in the new age movement that many people dont want truth and they always try to silience people who are honest !

[Klearchos84]

@OhSleeperAwake Don't confuse honesty with arrogant rudeness.

..and stop mentioning obsessions - this is called projection.

[OhSleeperAwake]

..and you shouldnt confuse intellectual arrogance with your higher self. you sure do have a big ego dont you. you think its your job to be a thought police? your job to go round the internet "cleaning up" peoples attitudes and comments-get a life!

i will say what i like!