I got to try my friends Mutant Cell, and man it has a great hook. Very controllable backend, yet very strong one as well. It handled great in the oil, then gave a good snap to the pocket. I got more hook throwing his Mutant Cell than throwing his Nano.
i just bought a hammer areson from you guys and from bowling on a drenched lane the muntant cell reacts but the hammer just opened my mistake margin by 5 or six boards. though i thinkn the muntant has started to loose its touch.
this ball is really killing.. it burst up the pin as strong as the lighting strike.. i get an average 230 with this roto grip mutant cell... i love this ball so so so so so much... many game i have won with this ball.. :)
how does this compare to the storm reign supreme? i won this ball in a raffle and wanna know if it is compared close to the reign supreme, i average a 192 and im trying to find a ball where i can get an aggressive hit in the pocket so i can hopefully get to a 200 average before the leagues over
Got this ball a year ago and it was awesome. The reason I say it "was" awesome is because it died after about 3 months because I never cleaned it, there was nothing wrong with the ball. If you get this ball, make sure you clean it every time after you are done bowling or else it will die.
@OpTicVII yeah i got this ball a year ago and i cleaned it every time i threw it but it still died after a few months, its a super high maintenance ball... the thing is like a fucking sponge... it made we weary about buying the mutant cell pearl but i did it anyways and so far so good!
the ball should be drilled with the thumb and ring finger straight up and down from the center side relief, pointy finger pointing out or away. The pin should be by the center of the Y between the ring and thumb and the relief hole. but that's how i throw it. You could bring the pin up to the fingers but I like the roll I get from the weight of the unbalance.
Trust the ball slow your swing extend your swing I've thought about bowling since 2001 I got my 300 757 a lot of other 7's I was 24 and I haven't bowled on league since. I love the sport but it's way to easy to stop because of the cost. And I'm not gettin any younger! but who cares.
I have the Lane 1 time bomb...does anyone know how they compare?...Also considering the ELITE "red Alien"..HELP ME!!!! I average 222 with the Time bomb,but have yet to shoot that big 300..I want something more agressive to simplify my life..
I got a 4 x 4 drilling... with the pin under... but i get only a weak reaction on long oil... just doesnt work... cant get it... insane reaction at most people.... think should get another drilling?
@DaveBais absolutely! The layout can be the diff between a ball that comes off your hand naturally, and hooks the way you intend to, or a ball that falls off your hand and has absolutely no hook or power. My suggestion: bowl with a ball that works for you and have a friend make a video of you bowling, showing your release, ball speed and target arrows, etc. Show the pro-shop driller, and then he'll be able to lay out a ball that will work for you.
this ball is great, i like it but i dont love it, at least not yet. drilled with 6x5 layouts, its pretty much a straight shot to the pocket, very speed sensitive. professionally sanded with 1000 abralon, hook is more consistent now. now i just need to be more consistent
@GoPackers212 Highly recommend this over a lot of balls out there right now... This the Invasion and the Hyroad are in my line up and this is my go to for starting matches.
@Drazorw0w I'm sure they'd be legit, probably knock 10-20 pins off each of their averages. But they use the same pattern every time just as a frame of reference. When you shoot sport, a minor change in ball dynamics could result in a disproportionately large adjustment on the lane. To compare different bowling balls, house shot is definitely ideal. Plus 98% of people watching this don't shoot on sport with any regularity.
got this ball today, All I have to say is that this ball rolls. It doesn't skid then snap, it goes for a moderate amount of time then it rolls mid lane and has a very smooth reaction
I think may favorite thing is the timing on those A2s. Wish the houses here in Montana were setup like that. The place where I bowl has tons dead wood due to the rake dropping so slowly.
Awesome ball. One of the guys on our team has one and it is phenomenal. Really looking at getting one for myself.
I would say that virtual gravity has more strength but if I was to pick between those two I would grab the mutant cell in a heart beat. It is a beautiful rolling ball and is much more consistent than the Virtual Gravity
i've had this ball for a month and i love it, and its only drilled as a full roller so theres not an insane amount of hook like this video shows. i average 180-190 on regular house shot but i've been shooting 220-240 consitently and even a few 250-270. This ball replaced my storm supercharged(bought in 2005)
you are only as goood as you want to be......bowling balls are like golf clubs..if you learn to bowl with the best out there you will get that much better....you cannot learn to control a ball that hooks with a plastic ball......I first picked up a bowling and it was the ultimate inferno...never had bowled before.....went from a 124 starting hte year to a 154....the next year was 179 now just 3 years later I am carrying a 213...i would never have gotten this far with a plastic ball
yeah. starting with plastic will not teach you how to hook the ball, you need to start with an average reactive ball until you have some experience. I started with a brunswick power groove and then progressed upward from there.
hmmm it would be wayy to strong for a beginner, i think you should go for a brunswick ball, like the avalanche sold, that was my first reactive ball and i bowled a 258 with it......
what people are forgetting is that this ball is made for heavy oil and thats why i think its a ball. i play a shot similar to the 2nd guy and i need something to react like this on heavy oil...
i want this ball so bad! my rogue isn't as strong as i want it to be at the house i bowl league in. i had the original cell but it was my first high performance ball and it's a pound lighter than what i throw now. i also have the cell pearl but i use it as a spare ball in my league. i think this will be my personal christmas present.
No, it dousnt count, if the pin setter makes contact with the pin, no matter what, the pin is to stay up. same ting happened to me last week. they had to change the score, and go back and set the pin up.
pba rules... if it falls before the pinsetter comes down than it counts... if the pinsetter touches it, it does not count and has to be reset. but this pinsetter drops pretty fast.
Just got my new Mutant Cell today. Lanes had been freshly oiled and I was the first to bowl on it. threw it at the third arrow and got a strike right off the bat. This ball is awesome. Has a lot of power in the backend.
Mutant Cell of VG??? which is a better ball for a rhino page type player like myself.. above avg rev rate and speed but i love to play that outside part of the lane like rhino in the king of bowling series.. i need some help in this decision
i would go with this bowling ball. the mutant gets very far down the lane before it snaps especially if u go pin up with this ball. it will allow u to play outside because it gets so far down the lane and then snaps hard but still is very continuous.
This bowling ball is a great bowling ball for almost any shot that is put down for leagues. i myself put a stacked layout on this bowling ball forcing it to get down the lane and snap. i love it. i have thrown it on a couple kegel patterns and his was always the ball of choice.
im trying to find a ball w/ a big weight block since i bowl about 22 mph on avg. but i dont put much revs bout twice of john and i love strong backend reactions..basically a ball that hooks all the way off the pin deck...i bowl to fast for my virtual gravity because its set up for midlane reaction but my track powermachine is set up for strong backend and it hooks like a mofo...im thinking of getting a rotogrip because they averagly have a big weight block this or im looking at hammer sting...
seeing as hank helped designing the ball i figured it would be similar to the virtual and it looks pretty close of course depending on your drilling, the way tony has his set up reacts like my virtual, im thinking of getting this and having it compliment the virtual by going a bit farther down the lane, this ball looks outstanding
The Rogue Cell was a hybrid. It was supposed to carry down the lane just a bit further than the original, but short of the Cell Pearl. It was made to let you continue use of it when the lane started breaking down. This, the Mutant Cell, is supposed to be Roto's new hook machine. Just imagine the original Cell and add a little more angular motion and back end and this is what you get. I'll buy it because the Cell line has carried me throughout the years and it will continue to do so with this one
Honestly i'm kinda bummed, I mean the ball looks good and all, but it just doesn't have that "Trademark Cell" roll through the pocket. I can appreciate how angular the mutant is but what i loved about my original cell is its crazy amount of carry due to that backend continuation. This thing just kinda looks like every other ball that hooks a lot. Compare Cell, Cell Pearl, and Mutant Cell Videos and you'll see what i mean.
@DAHensel it looks good when it hits a little high, and i mean a little, but with the cell you can come in lighter, with this one, it looks as though your supposed to hit the pocket, or a little high, lol
O.K. so after taking some heat on the side weight comment, let me say this...I still truly believe that ball the guy in the green shirt is throwing wobbles badly. If that is what to truly expect from this ball, I won't be buying it.
Just purchased a Roto Grip Cell to save for a rainy day. I have an Epic Battle and the SD-73 Classic. They don't roll that erratic. If anyone drilled a ball for me and it wobbled like that, they would be eating the cost of the ball for poor drilling. I won't buy
and with tony and brians's pin buffer on the ball they drilled the reaction to friction won't be as fast so it doesn't give the really snappy look either..
nice nice butttt the ball hookss and then stops hooks i was in japan and i saw some pro's throwe it if you want a really great ball for heavy oil and for shark pattern the jigsaw and the virtual energy is the ball
hey john. has your rev rate gotten higher? of is that the ball really revving up on its own? your ball didnt look like it spun as much in your virtual gravity video.
ya true, but everyone has been trying to copy the success of first the cell, and then the vgravity... the virtual led hammer to the jigsaw. I just talked to a rep at RG and he says that this ball is a TEST ball, if they like the core shape they will start a new line of balls with it and get away from the CELL name/series
Jigsaw isn't going over too well.. Eveeryone thought the Rogue was gonna be roto's virtual, but it's just not in the cores charecteristics to make a sharp turn.. I don't think this 1 either honestly..
This ball rolls like a Virtual Gravity on steroids and is in a cheaper price point. In comparison to the Rogue, I was 6 and 3 left on Shark with more belly room right and more ball speed. This thing is gonna be a complete MONSTER.
Iono what rep you're talking to superdutch, but they aren't accurate here. This ball is just a shifting of the mass in the Cell core and it is far past testing, it's in production and slated to be released November 19th (tentatively). I doubt they get away from the Cell series name as well, considering it has been the biggest selling line on the market for 2 years (or so). the name alone sells these balls and I can assure you, this one is gonna knock the socks off of folks.
nice nice butt it leaves allot of 10 pin if your lucky youll get the messenger i still like the jigsaw more than that ball the gives you all angles you want
On the forums you mentioned putting down a "heavier' volume of oil" for the Mutant testing, I was curious as to how much more oil this is compared to most of your other video reviews?
Is it my imagination or does this ball (the second guy to throw it) appear not to be "balanced". Wobbles quite a bit before it makes its turn. Would love to hear a comment from the person who threw that ball. Looks like it might be slightly over the limit on side weights
its just u its the green on the other side of the ball that makes it look like it wobbles and how can you say it looks like its "slightly over the limit on side weight"
I got to try my friends Mutant Cell, and man it has a great hook. Very controllable backend, yet very strong one as well. It handled great in the oil, then gave a good snap to the pocket. I got more hook throwing his Mutant Cell than throwing his Nano.
ZeroTuck 2 weeks ago
i've had this ball well over a year now, have no issues with it "dying" still reacts just fine. love it
Burgenheimer 2 months ago
i just bought a hammer areson from you guys and from bowling on a drenched lane the muntant cell reacts but the hammer just opened my mistake margin by 5 or six boards. though i thinkn the muntant has started to loose its touch.
HalfheartMinecraft 3 months ago
this ball is really killing.. it burst up the pin as strong as the lighting strike.. i get an average 230 with this roto grip mutant cell... i love this ball so so so so so much... many game i have won with this ball.. :)
tskbreit 4 months ago
mutant > rogue?
just wondering
ADAMEATSBEARS 5 months ago
This ball dies fast
MrBoricua808 5 months ago
this ball seems to be weak on carrying those bastard corner pins...
BSCEnVy 8 months ago 2
@BSCEnVy Exactlyyyy! But still, a damn good ball nonetheless.
JTranges 3 months ago
How would you compare the Mutant Cell to the Virtual Gravity and the Virtual Gravity Nano?
94fordf350 10 months ago
how does this compare to the storm reign supreme? i won this ball in a raffle and wanna know if it is compared close to the reign supreme, i average a 192 and im trying to find a ball where i can get an aggressive hit in the pocket so i can hopefully get to a 200 average before the leagues over
sortonator123 1 year ago
@sortonator123 This ball will be more aggressive and hook earlier than the Reign Supreme. Keep practicing spares, that's the key to averaging 200 :)
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Got this ball a year ago and it was awesome. The reason I say it "was" awesome is because it died after about 3 months because I never cleaned it, there was nothing wrong with the ball. If you get this ball, make sure you clean it every time after you are done bowling or else it will die.
OpTicVII 1 year ago
@OpTicVII yeah i got this ball a year ago and i cleaned it every time i threw it but it still died after a few months, its a super high maintenance ball... the thing is like a fucking sponge... it made we weary about buying the mutant cell pearl but i did it anyways and so far so good!
BowlingIsLife300 1 year ago
Whats the pattern in these videos?
jimbo98z 1 year ago
the ball should be drilled with the thumb and ring finger straight up and down from the center side relief, pointy finger pointing out or away. The pin should be by the center of the Y between the ring and thumb and the relief hole. but that's how i throw it. You could bring the pin up to the fingers but I like the roll I get from the weight of the unbalance.
TheHelixSpirit 1 year ago
Trust the ball slow your swing extend your swing I've thought about bowling since 2001 I got my 300 757 a lot of other 7's I was 24 and I haven't bowled on league since. I love the sport but it's way to easy to stop because of the cost. And I'm not gettin any younger! but who cares.
TheHelixSpirit 1 year ago
where was brian on the theory video?
Wiscompton608 1 year ago
i think i just found my next ball!
liquidrock2u 1 year ago
I have the Big Curve by Lane 1 and have way impressed, shot my first 2 300 games in the last month with it.
AlsetInc 1 year ago
I have the Lane 1 time bomb...does anyone know how they compare?...Also considering the ELITE "red Alien"..HELP ME!!!! I average 222 with the Time bomb,but have yet to shoot that big 300..I want something more agressive to simplify my life..
SHEEF07 1 year ago
@SHEEF07 The Lane #1 Big Curve would be a great choice. It is more aggressive and will give you a different look than the Time Bomb.
bowlingballcom 1 year ago
I got a 4 x 4 drilling... with the pin under... but i get only a weak reaction on long oil... just doesnt work... cant get it... insane reaction at most people.... think should get another drilling?
DaveBais 1 year ago
@DaveBais absolutely! The layout can be the diff between a ball that comes off your hand naturally, and hooks the way you intend to, or a ball that falls off your hand and has absolutely no hook or power. My suggestion: bowl with a ball that works for you and have a friend make a video of you bowling, showing your release, ball speed and target arrows, etc. Show the pro-shop driller, and then he'll be able to lay out a ball that will work for you.
Tolzer 1 year ago
Wow for Brians Mutant being negative pin it sure hits good.
TyRTi 1 year ago
this ball is great, i like it but i dont love it, at least not yet. drilled with 6x5 layouts, its pretty much a straight shot to the pocket, very speed sensitive. professionally sanded with 1000 abralon, hook is more consistent now. now i just need to be more consistent
lambo410 1 year ago
this, Jigsaw corner or somthing else?
GoPackers212 1 year ago
@GoPackers212 THIS MAN , IT KICKS ASSSSS
humey10141 1 year ago
@GoPackers212 Highly recommend this over a lot of balls out there right now... This the Invasion and the Hyroad are in my line up and this is my go to for starting matches.
612Lucky 1 year ago
@612Lucky yea i actually just bought a Mutant Cell Pearl because i got a really good deal on it
GoPackers212 1 year ago
@GoPackers212 the hits that come off of it are simply phenomenal. Very hard hitting ball
612Lucky 1 year ago
i wish my cell had that much backend!
bowlerchick482 1 year ago
Love the ball, my layout has OUTSTANDING backend reaction!!! 5 out of 5!!!
soontoberedsock 1 year ago
i love my mutant cell and i want to get the peral
eastezac000 1 year ago
@eastezac000 just got the peral love it.
MrDavidcorbett 1 year ago
@the300man Storm is Roto
jarvin007 1 year ago
@jarvin007 They may be owned by the same people but they have different lines of bowling balls. Wow nice one.
KeenanBowls 1 year ago
u guys should do the complete bedlam!!!! the video they got doesnt show its true potential!
nightwing171 1 year ago
rotogrip is better than storm
the300man 1 year ago
@the300man roto grip and storm are the same people
ironfist152 1 year ago
@the300man
roto grip is storm
leepjared 1 year ago
@the300man wow u fail
MARCUSxFENIX 1 year ago
@Drazorw0w I'm sure they'd be legit, probably knock 10-20 pins off each of their averages. But they use the same pattern every time just as a frame of reference. When you shoot sport, a minor change in ball dynamics could result in a disproportionately large adjustment on the lane. To compare different bowling balls, house shot is definitely ideal. Plus 98% of people watching this don't shoot on sport with any regularity.
Bujongo 1 year ago
Someone please answer this for me which hooks more backend and all. Massacre red death or the mutant cell my freind an me are arguing about it
Gryphondude2007 1 year ago
@Gryphondude2007 mutant cell
ladyzmann 1 year ago
really good ball dies out really fast though, in about 2-3 weeks.
tjbman07 1 year ago
got this ball today, All I have to say is that this ball rolls. It doesn't skid then snap, it goes for a moderate amount of time then it rolls mid lane and has a very smooth reaction
thegarrethasketsong 1 year ago
@Drazorw0w me to every time the same dry lane 38 feet woww
the300man 1 year ago
@Drazorw0w I agree. They should lay out the shark or scorpion pattern since this is a heavy oil ball lol
peanut2700 1 year ago
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peanut2700 1 year ago
IF i had lanes in my house id be like 900 every week lol how sweet wuld it be to wake up, walk down stairs and throw a game or two.
pmbazman15 1 year ago
how much would this cost?
tigertariq 2 years ago
ive watched a bunch of these videos, what kinds of oil patterns do the use
Gignasty24 2 years ago
I got this ball last week it's amazing, I predict my 2nd 300 this month or next with it
tjbman07 2 years ago
how do you lay it down so smoothly, i have a little bit of lob and that causes me to lose some length?
thegarrethasketsong 2 years ago
wipe it down a whole lot after you finish bowling.
H2C91 2 years ago
it doesnt seem to have that same drive for the crankers
mrrogersdiedtoday 2 years ago
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ProductxOfxSuffering 2 years ago
you bowl jv so it must not help you enough
Im a freshman bowling anchor lol
StormBowler1994 2 years ago
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ProductxOfxSuffering 2 years ago
this is my second year of bowling lol
StormBowler1994 2 years ago
lmao sorry meant to say "can't keep up"
ProductxOfxSuffering 2 years ago
one of the top 3 baddest balls on the market right now.pushes great down the lane.
H2C91 2 years ago
what would u say the other two are?
i would deffenitly say this ball and the black widow nasty. what about the other one
JasonAndBrandon 2 years ago
o and if possibly why?
Sl3yer1o7 2 years ago
which is better roto grip cell or cell or the Mutant cell and when did the Mutant cell come out.
Sl3yer1o7 2 years ago
I think may favorite thing is the timing on those A2s. Wish the houses here in Montana were setup like that. The place where I bowl has tons dead wood due to the rake dropping so slowly.
Awesome ball. One of the guys on our team has one and it is phenomenal. Really looking at getting one for myself.
heavyq 2 years ago
whats the song btw love the ball
ElitexAssasins 2 years ago
@madman102792
I HAD A regular cell before the mutant and my hook is sick
ribread97 2 years ago
hmm this or the Virtual Gravity in hook potential and strength?
smartcar111 2 years ago
I would say that virtual gravity has more strength but if I was to pick between those two I would grab the mutant cell in a heart beat. It is a beautiful rolling ball and is much more consistent than the Virtual Gravity
TomThePharmacist 2 years ago
i've had this ball for a month and i love it, and its only drilled as a full roller so theres not an insane amount of hook like this video shows. i average 180-190 on regular house shot but i've been shooting 220-240 consitently and even a few 250-270. This ball replaced my storm supercharged(bought in 2005)
lambo410 2 years ago
if ur a beginner suggest starting out with a plastic not such a reactive resin
ribread97 2 years ago
@ribread97 well if ur starting bowling for the first time ur probably not gonna know how to hook a ball anyways lol
madman102792 2 years ago
would you guys recommend this ball to a beginner? thanks!
leogawgaw 2 years ago
this ball is too strong for a beginner to handle. I would suggest starting with something like the storm reign.
redsfan821 2 years ago
you are only as goood as you want to be......bowling balls are like golf clubs..if you learn to bowl with the best out there you will get that much better....you cannot learn to control a ball that hooks with a plastic ball......I first picked up a bowling and it was the ultimate inferno...never had bowled before.....went from a 124 starting hte year to a 154....the next year was 179 now just 3 years later I am carrying a 213...i would never have gotten this far with a plastic ball
panther150584 2 years ago
yeah. starting with plastic will not teach you how to hook the ball, you need to start with an average reactive ball until you have some experience. I started with a brunswick power groove and then progressed upward from there.
redsfan821 2 years ago
@leogawgaw
perhaps a Tropical storm or The Link by 900 global
MrBowlermatt 2 years ago
hmmm it would be wayy to strong for a beginner, i think you should go for a brunswick ball, like the avalanche sold, that was my first reactive ball and i bowled a 258 with it......
EngallMatthew 2 years ago
what people are forgetting is that this ball is made for heavy oil and thats why i think its a ball. i play a shot similar to the 2nd guy and i need something to react like this on heavy oil...
AYObrody101 2 years ago
@AYObrody101
Yeah, I have this ball and a Mars. The Mars just slides straight down the lane on heavy oil.
sl0re10 2 years ago
@sl0re10 well thats because the mars is mid performance polished ball, madium dry conditions.
madman102792 2 years ago
just purchased one from u guys a few minutes ago it looks sick i've never bowled with one before
ribread97 2 years ago
Keep us updated! :D
bowlerdude95 2 years ago
i just got this ball like 2 weeks ago and i absolutely love it
RightInYourMouth2 2 years ago
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wicked. got a guy on my team with this. hell, hammer still rules.
emandude 2 years ago
mine comes in on monday!!!! its been in town since the 30th on December but i guess ups doesn't ship on new years eve... they're torturing me!!
bownguyen316 2 years ago
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sk8r524 2 years ago
i got my mutant cell last week and i LOVE it! its an amazing bowling ball
BlackHeartedPanda 2 years ago 5
could u guys get someone to bein ur vids without a massiverev rate or a tiny revrate
jgiv12345678 2 years ago
@jgiv12345678 yeah it's not a hooking contest and it makes every ball look too similar.
hiker300 2 years ago
thank god someone agrees for once
jgiv12345678 2 years ago
yeah. it would be easier to compare if all of thee balls were drilled similar as well, instead of have different layouts on different balls.
redsfan821 2 years ago
btw this has to be the most angle i've ever seen john play.
bownguyen316 2 years ago
i want this ball so bad! my rogue isn't as strong as i want it to be at the house i bowl league in. i had the original cell but it was my first high performance ball and it's a pound lighter than what i throw now. i also have the cell pearl but i use it as a spare ball in my league. i think this will be my personal christmas present.
bownguyen316 2 years ago
2:40 would have counted.If you watch, the pin was already falling. So why cant you count it. You pretty much have to.
Bowling2013 2 years ago
@Bowling2013
No, it dousnt count, if the pin setter makes contact with the pin, no matter what, the pin is to stay up. same ting happened to me last week. they had to change the score, and go back and set the pin up.
KB24ts6 2 years ago
pba rules... if it falls before the pinsetter comes down than it counts... if the pinsetter touches it, it does not count and has to be reset. but this pinsetter drops pretty fast.
bownguyen316 2 years ago
Just got my new Mutant Cell today. Lanes had been freshly oiled and I was the first to bowl on it. threw it at the third arrow and got a strike right off the bat. This ball is awesome. Has a lot of power in the backend.
Bowling2013 2 years ago
2:40 - Would not have counted!!!
vanni9283 2 years ago
i think these pin-setters come down to fast.
10InThePitBowler 2 years ago 2
Mutant Cell of VG??? which is a better ball for a rhino page type player like myself.. above avg rev rate and speed but i love to play that outside part of the lane like rhino in the king of bowling series.. i need some help in this decision
wessyweezy09 2 years ago
@wessyweezy09
i would go with this bowling ball. the mutant gets very far down the lane before it snaps especially if u go pin up with this ball. it will allow u to play outside because it gets so far down the lane and then snaps hard but still is very continuous.
rotogrip138 2 years ago
should i get this or the Jigsaw?
SuperFunnyman13 2 years ago
@SuperFunnyman13
Get this!!! jigsaw is alot less consistent and gets alot of over under on alot of patterns
rotogrip138 2 years ago
jigsaw sucks go rotogrip all the way!
PFLUGRADT 2 years ago
i've heard from most people that the jigsaw is condition specific
bownguyen316 2 years ago
What's this compared to Brunswick Siege?
Thanks
carlorowan 2 years ago
the siege hooks early and the mutant is a very consistent shot and i love the mutant get the mutant it will rock your world!
PFLUGRADT 2 years ago
This bowling ball is a great bowling ball for almost any shot that is put down for leagues. i myself put a stacked layout on this bowling ball forcing it to get down the lane and snap. i love it. i have thrown it on a couple kegel patterns and his was always the ball of choice.
rotogrip138 2 years ago
How did you drill it?
damastadj94 2 years ago
wowconventional ona cell hmh might b a good idea cant tell with his crappy bowling style
RIverson03 2 years ago
im trying to find a ball w/ a big weight block since i bowl about 22 mph on avg. but i dont put much revs bout twice of john and i love strong backend reactions..basically a ball that hooks all the way off the pin deck...i bowl to fast for my virtual gravity because its set up for midlane reaction but my track powermachine is set up for strong backend and it hooks like a mofo...im thinking of getting a rotogrip because they averagly have a big weight block this or im looking at hammer sting...
tstone278 2 years ago
bought a cell last week today threw a 196,203,213 ball is awesome!
eflosskboss2starz 2 years ago
just bowled 254-267-217, first series with the new cell. Love this thing.
option828 2 years ago 2
@14jordan94 im sorry but 300 rpms is not high....im willing to bet your ball speed is about 16mph or less and thats why you can hook it so much.
ffsuperfreak 2 years ago
Is Tony's layout Stracked w/ a smoother backend? since it's pin under.
groovy4 2 years ago
is it just me or are those the fastest pinsetters out there? those things are crazy fast
stormbowler900 2 years ago 2
seeing as hank helped designing the ball i figured it would be similar to the virtual and it looks pretty close of course depending on your drilling, the way tony has his set up reacts like my virtual, im thinking of getting this and having it compliment the virtual by going a bit farther down the lane, this ball looks outstanding
ace12689 2 years ago
From looking at this vid. I don't wont this ball, looks like it is going to out hook my original Cell, lol my cell is defiantly strong enough.
Blakediddy 2 years ago
The Rogue Cell was a hybrid. It was supposed to carry down the lane just a bit further than the original, but short of the Cell Pearl. It was made to let you continue use of it when the lane started breaking down. This, the Mutant Cell, is supposed to be Roto's new hook machine. Just imagine the original Cell and add a little more angular motion and back end and this is what you get. I'll buy it because the Cell line has carried me throughout the years and it will continue to do so with this one
Miggyt18 2 years ago 4
The Rogue was a hunk of junk
DAHensel 2 years ago
How would this compare to a virtual gravity? I dont want another ball that will do the same thing. I want something to add to my arsenal.
iconz116 2 years ago
This ball i a lot more angular with more hook.
DAHensel 2 years ago
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the jigsaw has more back-end and hits the same
the300man 2 years ago
Honestly i'm kinda bummed, I mean the ball looks good and all, but it just doesn't have that "Trademark Cell" roll through the pocket. I can appreciate how angular the mutant is but what i loved about my original cell is its crazy amount of carry due to that backend continuation. This thing just kinda looks like every other ball that hooks a lot. Compare Cell, Cell Pearl, and Mutant Cell Videos and you'll see what i mean.
DAHensel 2 years ago
@DAHensel it looks good when it hits a little high, and i mean a little, but with the cell you can come in lighter, with this one, it looks as though your supposed to hit the pocket, or a little high, lol
KB24ts6 2 years ago
ive never thrown a roto grip ball but, this thing looks like a beast indeed.
now if i could only rev a little bit higher....
whats the name of the song playing btw?
LZOHELLION 2 years ago
O.K. so after taking some heat on the side weight comment, let me say this...I still truly believe that ball the guy in the green shirt is throwing wobbles badly. If that is what to truly expect from this ball, I won't be buying it.
Just purchased a Roto Grip Cell to save for a rainy day. I have an Epic Battle and the SD-73 Classic. They don't roll that erratic. If anyone drilled a ball for me and it wobbled like that, they would be eating the cost of the ball for poor drilling. I won't buy
THIRTYSIXRED2001 2 years ago
It looks like its wobbling because as it changes axis the yellow comes into view, that's all. There is no wobble there at all.
Pmanning16 2 years ago
well u obviously dont need something this aggressive on these lane conditions but this ball could be very useful on certain patterns
Booker435 2 years ago
and with tony and brians's pin buffer on the ball they drilled the reaction to friction won't be as fast so it doesn't give the really snappy look either..
los200300 2 years ago
looks stupid strong. rhino page told my friend it was the best ball hes ever thorwn. (not a rhino page fan tho)
Booker435 2 years ago
well let me tell you something. i couldnt agree more.
JustHereForBowling 2 years ago
It has a lot more backend than the rogue cell and hooks a little earlier
jpierc25 2 years ago
this ball has a nice smooth reaction looks good
TyRTi 2 years ago
nice nice butttt the ball hookss and then stops hooks i was in japan and i saw some pro's throwe it if you want a really great ball for heavy oil and for shark pattern the jigsaw and the virtual energy is the ball
the300man 2 years ago
the strike at 2:38 was not a strike the pinsetter touched the pin
stormBIGbowling 2 years ago
no one cars
theaceco 2 years ago
hey john. has your rev rate gotten higher? of is that the ball really revving up on its own? your ball didnt look like it spun as much in your virtual gravity video.
bownguyen316 2 years ago
man the rack comes down quick compared to the AMF i bowl at, half as quick, if that
rocker0912 2 years ago
Its a A-2.....
zzzttt1 2 years ago
would this ball be suitable for house patterns?
kid1424654844 2 years ago
yes of course if the patterns fresh. its its burnt out then i dont know. haha
bownguyen316 2 years ago
suitable yes but would you need to throw it no..
los200300 2 years ago
you could easily throw something a lot less aggressive and score well
los200300 2 years ago
i want it!
PFLUGRADT 2 years ago
lot more revs than the original, very aggressive... Mutant Cell to me is RG's version of the VGravity...that ball is a huge success for storm
superdutch44 2 years ago
The cell line was more of a control piece than the gravity line.. It won't be as violent at the end of the patter
los200300 2 years ago
ya true, but everyone has been trying to copy the success of first the cell, and then the vgravity... the virtual led hammer to the jigsaw. I just talked to a rep at RG and he says that this ball is a TEST ball, if they like the core shape they will start a new line of balls with it and get away from the CELL name/series
superdutch44 2 years ago
eyah thats true but the
Jigsaw isn't going over too well.. Eveeryone thought the Rogue was gonna be roto's virtual, but it's just not in the cores charecteristics to make a sharp turn.. I don't think this 1 either honestly..
los200300 2 years ago
This ball rolls like a Virtual Gravity on steroids and is in a cheaper price point. In comparison to the Rogue, I was 6 and 3 left on Shark with more belly room right and more ball speed. This thing is gonna be a complete MONSTER.
Pmanning16 2 years ago
Iono what rep you're talking to superdutch, but they aren't accurate here. This ball is just a shifting of the mass in the Cell core and it is far past testing, it's in production and slated to be released November 19th (tentatively). I doubt they get away from the Cell series name as well, considering it has been the biggest selling line on the market for 2 years (or so). the name alone sells these balls and I can assure you, this one is gonna knock the socks off of folks.
Pmanning16 2 years ago
i think its more just the rotogrip name but yea being a cell is a good "celling" point aswell haha
ebonitemorich 2 years ago
nice nice butt it leaves allot of 10 pin if your lucky youll get the messenger i still like the jigsaw more than that ball the gives you all angles you want
the300man 2 years ago
its coming out November 19th, not the 20th. Can't wait, im getting one :D. I love the colors.
DrivillianGenocide 2 years ago
Same here. I use Storm balls exclusively, but being that R.G. is the sister company; I'll give it a try...
Lakermania24 2 years ago
On the forums you mentioned putting down a "heavier' volume of oil" for the Mutant testing, I was curious as to how much more oil this is compared to most of your other video reviews?
Grinols 2 years ago
You got some fast racks! I would hate to bowl there.
jpba713 2 years ago
at the end of the video, what shoes are tony wearing?
bownguyen316 2 years ago
Look like Dexter SST8's to me.
Grinols 2 years ago
Ball rolls good but the color is ugly as hell.
hermanbsmithsonjr 2 years ago
i kinda like it. looks cool rolling down the lane
mudddflappp 2 years ago
Is it my imagination or does this ball (the second guy to throw it) appear not to be "balanced". Wobbles quite a bit before it makes its turn. Would love to hear a comment from the person who threw that ball. Looks like it might be slightly over the limit on side weights
THIRTYSIXRED2001 2 years ago
proabaly color variation, these guys are professionals with drlling.
JustHereForBowling 2 years ago
its just u its the green on the other side of the ball that makes it look like it wobbles and how can you say it looks like its "slightly over the limit on side weight"
crashbandit900 2 years ago
I know this is a Japan release ball. Are they gonna release this in the US as well?
Lakermania24 2 years ago
This is a U.S. release. Sometime in November I do believe.
venompearl 2 years ago
i dont think this is a japan release man. japan releases were cubic cell and hybrid cell,
bownguyen316 2 years ago
and plasma cell.
jpba713 2 years ago