UN Resolution 1541 (XV) UN definition of what a colony is and what self determination is, also Principles determining an obligation or not to transmit the information called for on Article 73 e of the UN Charter Chapter XI.
Principle IV: There is an obligation to transmit information in respect of a territory which is geographically separate AND distinct ethnically and/or culturally from the country administrating it.
Shall white British citizens sent by Britain fall into this category?
The British were called and they came and liberated the Falklands. And the Argis proved to pathetic what kind of people refuse there dead back?? They show no respect of honour for the Brace Argi men they sent to invade the Falklands, WHAT HORRIBLE PEOPLE!
God Save Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the Second of the House of Windsor and God keep the men and women of Her Majesty's Armed Forces hail in health and Crowned with Glory!!
looking for my dad who was aboard the sub conqueror on the 2nd of may martyn brown any info on him would be very welcome hope you can help thankyou lee risely
why do you argie monkeys keep coming on British tribute videos spouting rubbish? why dont you go to an Argie video depicting some glorious Argie victory, and post there.
hang on. i remember.
cos you third world dago cunts are shit and never won anything. Sorry. keep posting here then you mugs.
@TrooperLFC Falklanders is not a natural population in the islands, they was there by a original military british action in 1833. they have not rigth to self determination so idiot red
@rainerschnaegger of course they are,hypocrite,they are ninth generation people,the islands are their home. You actually need to research the events of 1833,rather than spout bullshit,go and do some research.
To all the so called 'indigenous' Spanish in Argentina don't foret that the Conquistadors took over from the locals about 650 years ago so you don't have any claim really either. Not to mention the fact that Spain want Gibraltar whilst occupying two pieces of Morrocco. But thats a different story. Isn't it?
Capital de Las Islas Malvinas: Puerto Argentino (Stanley)
Distancia entre Londres, Reino Unido y Puerto Argentino (Stanley): 12.700 Kilometros / 8000 Millas
Distancia entre Rio Grande, Argentina y Puerto Argentino (Stanley): 800 Kilometros / 500 Millas
"Las Islas Malvinas pertenecen geográficamente al continente sudamericano, y por este motivo constituyen parte natural del dominio territorial Argentino, en cuya proximidad se hallan."
No hay nada de honor en su guerra. MALVINAS ARGENTINAS
@thebritish25 Respeto a quien? a David? o a Goliad? Cual es el merito de matar gente del tercer mundo. Cual es el merito de seguir destruyendo pueblos? acaso su vida vale mas que la nuestra o la de un iraki?. El asesino se viste de honor y de gala al mismo tiempo pide que el mundo lo respete! El dia que respeten un avion de la cruz roja el mundo sabra de su piedad.
Basically ivanexocet is claiming that we are lying about our casualty numbers.Well that´s a laugh because there are Argentinian veterans that know the names of dead comrades that don´t appear on memorials & are still scared to sy anything :FACT.
QUE VERGUENZA , los ingleses y jankees entrenan , que de 1000 hombre solo mueran 10 , y en MALVINAS murieron mas de 1000 hombres ... y que no reconocen los mentirosos ingleses .... y engañan a su pueblo como siempre con grandes mentiras ...
The Argies learnt that the British forces are one of if not THE most determined,professional and couragous armed forces any where in the world.Trained to a standard that many many countries can only dream of.The brave,honourable and selfless forces are something that fills our nation ith endless pride and gratitude......
The Argies learnt that the British forces are one of if not THE most determined,professional and couragous armed forces any where in the world.Trained to a standard that many many countries can only dream of.The brave,honourable and selfless forces are something that fills our nation ith endless pride and gratitude......
why not show as he sank his ships ... do not remember the HMS Sheffield, HMS Coventry, HMS Ardent, HMS Antelope, RFA Sir Galahad, RFA Sir Tristram, and some more? General Belgrano we remember ...
@madjaime2007 los muertos por la guerra descansaran en la tierra que defendieron de invasores hasta la muerte... no sentimos verguenza de haber luchado y haber perdido.
verguenza tendrian que sentir ustedes al invadir paisers al otro lado del mundo. y si tenemos que volver a declararle la la guerra otra vez no nos importaria. volveriamos a pelear por lo que es, fue y sera nuestro.
08/06/82: 162 british died .Ataque en Fitz Roy. Son hundidos: HMS Sir Galahad (89 died), HMS Sir Tristam (40 died), lanchón de desembarco (LCU) Foxtrot (10+ died) (aunque no estaba lleno de soldados, debido a que transportaba material logístico, las bajas pueden ser mayores). Mueren (8died) chinos en la playa, debido a los fuertes bombardeos.
Es dejado fuera de combate el HMS Avenger (5 died). Ataque al HMS Plymouth en Bahía Agradable (10 died)
What is amusing is Argies talking about the British old coloniel days.We could talk about their dirty war were sanctions were placed against them by many countries.Because thousands of their own people vanished,were tortured,imprisoned and never heard of again...their own people!!!!Moving to more recent times you attacked and LOST...and that is that....learn some dignity,reason and pride and maybe just maybe your country will progress...quoting ancient history just vweakens your argument.
edpolar63, funny to hear that Britain went all over the world killing and stealing defensless people in India, Africa (the Zulues made them paid though) etc, but when a pacific country recover his islands without killing an ant, THEN they start talking about "international law" and "self determination".
Are Britain nowdays occuping any foreign country? I wonder!
Argentina has 2 "FAST ATTACK VESSELS" THE INTREPIDA CLASS.....these FAST ATTCK vessels are 37 years old and still their rapid response vessels.I have managed to get hold of some oars for them,to increase their speed.....i assume they still float.If any Argie can send their address i'll get the oars to them,it will be the first update of these boats in a qurater of a century ha ha ha ha.Or we can send some rubber dingy's with sticks if you just want to replace them with a new vessel ha ha ha
@Arminevh.....I have the rubber dingy's to replace the 37 year old INTREPIDA CLASS "FAST ATTACK" BOATS YOUR NAVY USES ...ALL 2 OF !!! HA HA.I have also managed to find a website that deals in motors from old washing machines etc.....if you want it( to update the engines in your modern 30 year old main battle tanks)let me know ha ha ha.I also think you could replace radars for the first time in 30-50 years by using homing pigeons and dolphins...well what else can you do???NOTHING HA HA
@Arminevh Pseudo-intellectual half-wit, Pacific country ? how many of their own people had they already killed before seting foot on the Falkland Islands?
Falklanders have decided to remain British? How about the rights of those Argentinean settlers who along Governor Vernet were expelled from the islands. Shouldn't we consider the decision of their descendants as well? That is international law. We are not only going to get Malvinas back, we will go for old Wales too! After all, many Argentineans have right to those lands too!
What ever the arguments,you can not just in this day and age go around invading and occupying other soverign states terrioty.If you made proper representations to the Security council and did it the right way and the ISLANDERS CHOOSE to be Argentine fine.....just saying many many many years ago they were our islands so we are taking them now BY FORCE IS NOT HOW IT WORKS IAM AFRAID....AS YOU DISCOVERED.
Precisely, you said it. You take somebody else's land by force, you settle a handfull of your own and then you have them deciding if they want to be with you or with the original owner of the land. It looks like the scheme did not work in Hong Kong, right? How long before Gibraltar goes back to Spain?
You miss the point deliberatly i assume to avoid admiting defeat and that armed invasion is wrong.If you can not fight a war or cope with loosing dont attack some one else's land....that way you will not be humilited.And you try to bring in other issues this was about you attacking our land and us taking it back and 28 years later we still have it....DEAL WITH DEFEAT AND OUR OWNERSHIP HA HA HA
@edpolar63 did you know hong kong was never settled by many british we let the natives live there freely just turned it into a rich port and hong kong had no choice they would have voted to remain we returned it only becus we took it as a 99 year loan and gibraltar they voted 99%(many with spanish relatives) for british rule the othe 1% wer spanish or outcasts so you have just made yourself look retarded and gib was signed away for ever in the treaty
@edpolar63 and 1/4 of france should be ours signed away in a treaty yet we only given channel islands but the french rarely keep their word hence iraq etc send more troops in well do it later.........
bannon, we ve got many British flags in our museums captured in 1806 and 1807 when we made you bite the dust. I cant say it is a nice flag at all, it seems rather like a napkin
There's a diffrence between a flag & a country's armed forces.You dont rely on flag to protect a country,thats up to your ARMED FORCES.Nor does a flag speak aboyut your international standing,as your military does.You could use the flag as a sail to help your ships move,or tie on your Mirage fighters,you know the one's the ex-Isreali ones that when they went to retire them them you said we'll have who cares if they have been in wars and are 30+years old there better than our 50 year old skyhawk
Should the Falklands belong to Great Britain or Argentina? Want to discuss the sovereignty of the Falklands from both viewpoints? Then visit this forum. Erase the spaces before copying and pasting the URL.
¿Deben las Malvinas pertenecer a Gran Bretaña o Argentina? ¿Querés discutir la soberanía de las Malvinas desde ambos puntos de vista? Entonces visitá este foro. Borrá los espacios antes de copiar y pegar la dirección.
First time i've heard someone talk without bias on a video regarding the islands. Its the for the islands themselves to decide their fate as you said. We don't feel like we have done your nation over as we hold these islands. The war should'nt have happened and for people to insult either nations is only insulting the men that died there! rest in peace all men who fell in 1982.
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Shut up Millan. us british nearly lost the falkland islands though. my dad was in this war. we were very badly eqiped and we didnt have enough amphibious kit to take over the islands. and then the result was we won but only just. we became very close from loosing falklands. i just want to say that was a fact
Hey Briton why do you care so much about this islands when nobody in your country did care for 150 years? are you gona go there yip.? Buy a piece of land, or camping? when your people consider the kelpers second class citizens. What you really care you motherfucker is about your stinky ego what you care" The islands belong to us to to the people of UK. Fuck your Queen!!!!
The retard exposes himself.....you know,insults show you for the idiot you are...you know nothing of the Falklands,you know nothing of the British people..as for your other comments,the only time you ever stand a chance of getting the Falklands,something that has NOTHING to do with Argentina,is if our nation were destroyed by another...but it would not be down to "brave" Argentines like yourself,pathetic man
The true is that as soon the world war starts your country will no have a chance.
Russia and China + NK and Iran will erase you fron the main land with all your ego from Harod's and at the end we will take the Malvinas and I will piie in the grave yard of all the motherfucker britons die in malvinas. Long fuck to your queen.........jajajaja
You are right I was not there the only thing I like is to full with a motherfucker briton like you. Who likes to practice his way of colonialism world wide. But you know something the end is close. One of this days your motherfucker country as well as US will have to confront NK or Iran and that will be the end. Because on top of that you will see China and Russia ....
@SuperZepra actually,we pulled out of Iraq over a year ago,our job of liberating there done. And south america is the biggest example of colonialism,absolutely hilarious
@SuperZepra US veteran. Britains job of liberating,then stabilising Basra is done,and our troops have left,and where have we benefited? As for the US robbing Iraqi oil,i can't comment,i am not a US national
@jonboy1973 FUNNY JONYBOY the colonialism will finish when the fucking british pirates retreat their colonies from malvinas (argentina) gibraltar (españa) and all other countries were you invaded and brought pain
fucking asholes the little island stole natural resources for over 300 years and still doing so (malvinas oil) THEY WILL BE A DAY when the justice will be made and you will pay for old this years
FUCK YOU BRITISH i reccomend you to watch the sheefield sunking i love to see it burn
@dagger377 So are YOU going to leave south america? as you are colonial settlers from Europe,i would imagine you are,unless of course,you are another hypocrite.
The Sheffield's loss was sad,although her sacrifice was not in vain,as the war was won,the islands returned to their rightful owners.
@jonboy1973 the brits have no respect for any south american country. we are a unique nation once again in argentina's case we mostly descend of inmigrants that come in 2 big inmigratory waves XIX and XX century.. you go to research a little and learn fucking imperialist that we dont have nothing to do with the spaniards THAT is colonialism thinkig the one that you have.
@dagger377 don't ned to research,the Falklands have been British since before your nation came into existence,and like it or not,you are a product of imperialistic Spain,a country that raped and murdered the people of south America,unlike the Falklands,uninhabited before Britain landed. WE have much respect for the people of Chile,a truly honourable south American people. have a nice day daggy waggy xx
I think you need to realize that the people in South America are no products of Spain than the Americans are of Britain, which is to say, that they are two hundred years removed from the Imperial policies that you conveniently lambast...lol!
@suryavajra indeed,and no more the product are the people of the Falklands.ninth generation people,colonialism is an argument offered by Argentines,and its hypocrisy is highlighted by such comments,when Argentina tried to annexe the islands only 28 years ago,,,,,an act of colonialism!
@suryavajra not at all sury,the islanders are a ninth generation people,who choose to maintain their links with the UK,they are an overseas protectorate,with their own elections and laws. Many Argentines use the argument that the islanders are British,this may be the case,although many are of scandinavian,and indeed Spanish descent,the bottom line is,Argentina chose independence from Spain,the Falklands chose to remain part of the UK,their democratic right!
pity, that would of made your cases stronger. Look, we the Free people of the New World would appreciate it if you keep your protectorates well and truly away from our part of the world...lol!!
But the fact of the matter is that we cannot morally condone colonialism in an area of the world that has always stood against it.
@suryavajra exactly,and colonialism was what argentina attempted in 1982,you cannot call a ninth generation people a colony,a people that have been there as long as other nations in south america have existed,just because they express their democratic self determination,and remain British,after all,you come from the "land of the free"!!!!
No it's not. Argentina was and is a Republic. Therefore 1982 could not have possibly been about a ''colonial'' project. Countries in the New World are anti-colonial and if anything they do not possess any territory off the coast of Europe, do they?
If they want to remain British as opposed to embracing the New World, they ought to just take the long boat ride back so they could be with 60 million of their countrymen.
@suryavajra never had you down as a facist sury,the act of 2 april 1982,was armed annexation of sovereign territory,against the will of the people of the Falklands,a peaceful people of nine generations,they rely on Britain only for defence,as they are too small to defend themselves against Argentina,a nation that has a history of failing to recognise borders. Had the Falklands chose independence in 1833,we would not be having this conversation,and the Falklands would have been annexed by facist
I'm not a fascist at all, and neither were they. They may have been a military junta and a police state, but that's not what the definition of fascism is.
@suryavajra the were indeed a facist state,the murdered all who opposed them,including nuns,they tortured all who dared to stand up to them,that is fact.
@suryavajra another point for you sury,Argentina was a dictatorship in 1982,headed by a facist junta,responsible for murdering over 30.000 of its own people,and guilty of many crimes,and how a US citizen fails to recognise the Falklands,when Hawaii lives,by its own choice,as part of the US,really surprises me,i credited you with not being a hypocrite sury!
Except General Galtieri was a hard working ally of the united States. He was essential in counter-insurgency effort against communists in Central America.
@suryavajra thats ok then,better have a nazi loving facist,than commies...you really are disappointing me here sury!, Galtieri was a drunken bully,clinging to power by invading the Falklands,to galvanise his fickle people,you don't know much about the Falklands,obviously.
well jonboy, I find this holier than thou rheotirc disconcerting. Could you tell me the nature of the UK's close, personal albeit clandestine alliance with Pinochet of Chile?? There's enough literature that talks about that as a backdrop of the conflict.
@suryavajra well sury,my "holier than thou" rhetoric comes from a hatred of hypocrisy,and ignorance of the subject,Pinochet was a friend to thatcher,that is well documented,although Chile played little or no role in the conflict,until Galtieri invaded the Falklands,and in one of his brash arrogant statements,he told Chile they were next,so as regards a backdrop,no,but a consequence of Galtieri's warmongering,then Chile became a player,for sure
Well this ''friend of Thatcher'' apparently isalso accused of killing a lot of people. I read somewhere that Chile was chosen as a place for SAS operators to end up in, after a proposed a raid into the Argentinean mainland. This op never happened, but even a proposal of such suggests that a clandestine military alliance and understanding existed between the two countries. Not that I make judgments against you for it.
@suryavajra Jean Kirkpatrick,an irish american,and an anglophobe,she dined with Galtieri as his troops invaded the Falklands,and tried to murder British royal marines,at Moody Brook,..at least we had a first class ally in Casper Weinberger,a true gent,and supporter of freedom
@suryavajra well,she was anti British in her views before this started,so was never going to look at the situation objectively,and had you listened to her,relations with a cold war ally,would have soured,and places like Greenham Common,and Holy Loch would not have been so readily supported by people in the UK. I haven't set out to offend Sury,if i have,it is because this subject is very close to home for me,i come from Portsmouth,where the fleet sailed from,and many didn't return
I was born and raised in a border state (California). So for me I look down south, and I see Chavez, Morales, and Castro up to their shenanigans and succeeding in winning many south American countries to their side. I hear from mm Mexican friends the horrors of what is going on in their country due to narco terrorism and the drug cartels. I wonder why with all of the danger, thousands of US troops are stationed in Europe to (cont)
guard the safety and defense of Europe when our own borders are being penetrated by violent gangs and worse.
So you see now why i would be inclined towards men like Galtieri and Pinochet?? they may not have been good, moral men, but without these guys look at what has happened. We have very little standing or influence in South America. Instead it has become the backyard for the Russians, the Chinese and the Iranians.
@suryavajra i totally agree with you,but i fear Putin is somebody not to be trusted,and US troops in Europe are maybe there because the pentagon knows something we don't?
The world is a troubled and insecure place,but ultimately we have to trust our leaders to make the right call!
The problem atleast with the leaders here in the US, is that once they cross Potomac and reside in the Washington, New York Corridor, they forget all about the rest of the 99% of the country and their concerns. They become far too receptive to special interest groups than the constituents that put them there. They are interested in doing what is politically correct as opposed to what is for the greater good.
Putin cannot be totally trusted. And his posturing vis a vis Europe and the Americas are troubling. But ultimately he or atleast someone like him would be needed to put a check on the Chinese, if need be. As you can see, this gets really, really complicated!!
@suryavajra for sure,and China has influence over North Korea,it is all a little like walking a tight rope! Putin's willingness to export AIP submarine tech is worrying though,without is obvious "flexing of muscles",such as the renewed incursions in British airspace by long range rec aircraft....
@suryavajra yes,it is a troubled region for sure,Chavez is totally an enemy to all,and it is problem for the world,as the narcotics end up on the streets of Europe too...i wonder if Kirkpatrick was impartial over the Falklands,Galtieri may have had second thoughts? who knows,but it was one of those situations that in the long run,has probably made matters worse all round.
Well I'm not sure that her being Irish-American had anything to do with it. I'm pretty sure that she was running her own foreign policy calculus equation and concluded that it was better to keep with the right-wing authoritarian dictator then left wing totalitarian rulers. In fact she wrote as much in an academic paper that got her recognized by the Reagan administration even though she was a lifelong Democrat.
I think had Galiteri been told under no uncertain terms that his policy would lead to a War, he would of backed down. The only reason he agreed to the whole operation or so I read, was it was a bone that he threw to appease the Argentinian Naval establishment for their support for his junta. He was ultimately interested in regime survival. So had he been warned with no doubts as to what would happen, then he would of not even launched the invasion in the first place.
Yep, the Navy's objectives were far different than the Army's. The latter of which came to power amid terrorist attacks by Left-wing and communist groups. So the Army were chomping at the bits to fight communists and those they perceived as fifth columnists in Argentina.
@suryavajra the raid was palnned,the chopper landed in Chile,but the raid was then aborted,this only happened after Galtieri threatened Chile that they were next,and moved units of his army to the border,so i guess Argentina strengthened an ally for us there.
Yes, I believe that was it!! But you see jonboy, the world is filled with dangerous and unsavory characters. If you always made strategic decisions based on high minded ideals you would be outflanked and overrun by even more dangerous enemies. Galtieri and Pinochet weren't choir boys. But those were the only guys available with the muscle and the firepower to stand against the communists, who I guarantee you would of been a hundred times worse.
@suryavajra i totally agree,the US was between a rock and a hard place(i am pro US,by the way),it is kind of ironic that we supported,then ousted Saddam,and made that region worse,however,the invasion was a total gamble on Galtieris part,
Well ousting Saddam came with a price. We unwittingly strengthened the hand of the clerical regime in Iran without them ever having to fire a shot. Remember it was Saddam who fought the Iranians for eight years, not the sniveling rich boy, terrorist sympathizing princelings in Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf States that our two governments support and hob nob with....
@suryavajra LOL so the American colonies of Peuto RIco, The American Virgin Islands and Guam do not exist then. And Argentinian imperial asperations in SOuth America are a chimera and the attempted land grab of the Falklands a legitimate British possession claimed by Britain prior to the establishment of Argentina was not an imperialist adventure. That is too funny -- furthermore the competing claims on the Falklands by Spain and France were both ceded to Britain before Argentina invaded c1832.
Different missions one at the sea May 25Shefield down later when you guys invaded the Malvinas in June we went for it. I can't give the details. Later at Malvinas we deployed to fly our Pucaras no chance. We just didn't return to the mother land. I was captured later.
Correction Sea I saw in other mission 0542 Nw. Lat 34, 89 W. several ships. I fired one E. and hit the Sheffield nice hit all dead?? I saw the ships burning nice hell next time I wish to drop a Nuke.
I was one of the Arg. pilots who flew over Malvinas was nice to the ships burning.
I was trying to sunk the Queen M. but I didn't have much fuel. My Mirage was just ready for only one pass. I did drop 2 Mk bombs and they got close to her. Next time there is a part of one of the films when I got the overpass. We defeat it but at the see did hit hard your Royal Navy.
Exocets we got plenty but didn't arrive on time. next time.
fuckin funny,you claim to be a Brit vet on other videos...you clearly know fuck all about this conflict,so go back to playing with your marbles...or go on to some vietnam videos and talkl bollocks on there
look to all of you argentines out there...... SHUTUP AND STOP WINGING!.... you declared war on us ... and we kicked your ass... did u reli expect to beat us... we were out of your league and sent over just 1 task force to deal with your entire army lmao.... o yeh and we kinda beat you in 40 days.... hahahaha
just face it you got raped by a country a tenth of your size hahaha.... it was a clear defeat!
The British Forces didn't fight that well, I was there. They fought against to a group of kids 18 years old, with not experience in war!!
No even well train, with not real weapons.
The true was at the sea when the real Arg. Air Force sunk 10 ships and damaged many more included the Invincible who was at the sea for repairs for 2 years without touching any harbor.
The kelpers are not recognized by the British so fuck them
Not really,i am happy to talk without insults,it seems to be a reaction when you lose an argument,or run out of legitimate argument,you turn to insults,or in your case Emiliano,it is normally threats.
"Not really,i am happy to talk without insults,it seems to be a reaction when you lose an argument,or run out of legitimate argument,you turn to insults,or in your case Emiliano,it is normally threats. "......I never attack anybody, NEVER, I only defende myself when your agressives cuntryments insult me, thats all.
I propose a reconciliation between Argentina and England......after all, we are all humans beings. Argentina must renunce to his claims for those islands and respect the falklanders whishes, and they choose be englishs citizens......ITS TIME TO START OVER PEOPLE!!!! I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST FROM THE DEEPEST PLACE IN MY HEART!!!!!!
The history is that the Falklands have been British since 1690 Argentina has existed since 1816 Argentina gave up any claim it thought it had on 15 may 1850 And what exactly does a map have to do with it? if geography was an argument why aren`t you claiming Chile for example? that too is an independent sovereign territory?
Argentina has existed since 1810.... doesn`t really alter the argument that much does it??????????"......yes, well, maybe in the Falklands Issue you are right but doest change the fact that your beatiful nation commit thousands of crimes around the world.
hahah, you browneyed black haired southern european bastards make me sick!.
The Falklands will remain British, do you think that the government in London spends 250 mill a year to safe guard the 'wishes' of 2000 islanders,of which around 1500 'go on holiday' for 6 months during the winter??? This is about British pride, its a barometer of external perception of the British resolve,much in the same was Sarkozy in france is re-igniting french empire glory!. Britain will never leave! Thank god!
Its more then British pride. First, they voted to remain with us (So yes, I think our government would pour money in to help them- same reason we are still poring money into the economic black hole that is Northern Ireland. We cannot just abandon British citezens). Second, the Falklands is sitting on top of a shit load of oil. It is predicted the Falklanders will become some of the richest people on earth when we start mining there.
Yes, the Falklands are a mirocosom of Australia, an anglo out-post in the southern hemisphere, like our falkland cousins we speak english, retain the angloceltic cultural values and consider the societies of both our immediate neighbours to be both foreign and revolting. It has never been about the islanders,Argentina continues to approach islanders individually,with offers of re-seetlement, when the Argentine force landed, they knew the natives werent spanish,that was just a myth of the junta!
I basically agree about the Falklands, but I have questions?
- How do you know that they have brown eyes and black hair? Many southern Europeans have green, gray or even blue eyes and they rearly have really black hair.
- What's wrong with brown eyes and black hair in the first place? ;)
God save the Queen. As a 5th generation white Australian I am proud to say (like 70% of our population of 20 million) that I am genetically 100% anglo-saxon. Australian army regulars were on stand-by during the conflict, I only wish that we got to wax those greasy spanish wogs, would have been quite an experience. In 1999 Australia voted 51%-TO 48% to keep the british monarchy,,,, God save the Queen
ok but... Argentina has never lost a piece of soil since 1940... it has increased its terrain by 30%... and the british empire has lost their colonies all over the planet, your time has gone and that war was the very beginning... someday you'll crave for resources in your tiny little rainy island...
ahahaha no we didn't... we increased our territories by 30%... the south was completely taken from chile... we also conquered the northwest from countries like bolivia and peru...
Then why did Argentina bitch so much about the arbitration,and is it not hypocritical to boast of your countrys own imperialism whilst criticising that of others? .
we do that because it is convenient for foreign politics... argentina was an empire too... anti imperialism critics are uneducated scums or lazy losers who don't own its own country history
The same reason that made the english reject the falklands renamed into malvinas apply in the Greeks regecting the name of the Greek province of Macedonia to an artificial slavic entity like "former yugoslav republic of macedonia" that is tottaly unrelated to the name and history and heritage of the land.
the world must support the trouth and not two standards
and suffer a defeat again? emiliano,thanks to your last foray 1982,there is now a garrison defending the island,a detachment of eurofighter aircraft,and probably a SSN somewhere nearby,your army would be slaughtered before they knew what day it was.
No way.... that war was a political error, those guys, "the kelpers" were starving to death in their little island... discriminated by the english goverment, forgotten until the war victory... We should aid those guys in times to come... When the british empire finally losses all of their colonies all over the world... we will help them, embrace them, and support them to make a decent living without spending our vast resources in shameful guns
Starving? what total bollocks,if that was the case why did the islanders not welcome the invading Argentines? they clapped the Parachute regiment into stanley on the day of liberation....another dillusioned Argentine who believes his revisionist history rather than the truth.
You sound scarey...with a man of your calibre leading the charge Argentina cannot fail to route the evil British Pirates and liberate the grateful Islanders....
hm..the killed Argie killed by gunfire...he was unarmed tried to secure the ship after it was beached. Shot by a full-armed soldier, just because both did not understand each other...not a brave deed eiher ihn my eyes. I dont want to diminish the bravery of english soldiers but stay fair and dont call all the Argies cowards just because they were untrained and feared the british soldiers as well as they feared th own government with all its stupid parols
I am reffering to the Santa Fee here...she was beached at Grytviken and then a sailor was shot who tried to secure the ship by a SAS who did not understand what he was saying in spanish. And the argentine Sailor did not understand wht the SAS guy shouted at him.
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UN Resolution 1541 (XV) UN definition of what a colony is and what self determination is, also Principles determining an obligation or not to transmit the information called for on Article 73 e of the UN Charter Chapter XI.
Principle IV: There is an obligation to transmit information in respect of a territory which is geographically separate AND distinct ethnically and/or culturally from the country administrating it.
Shall white British citizens sent by Britain fall into this category?
111jasy111 3 months ago
The British were called and they came and liberated the Falklands. And the Argis proved to pathetic what kind of people refuse there dead back?? They show no respect of honour for the Brace Argi men they sent to invade the Falklands, WHAT HORRIBLE PEOPLE!
martynrobin121 8 months ago 3
God Save Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the Second of the House of Windsor and God keep the men and women of Her Majesty's Armed Forces hail in health and Crowned with Glory!!
GEOHHADDAD 9 months ago 2
looking for my dad who was aboard the sub conqueror on the 2nd of may martyn brown any info on him would be very welcome hope you can help thankyou lee risely
TheRisely 1 year ago
why do you argie monkeys keep coming on British tribute videos spouting rubbish? why dont you go to an Argie video depicting some glorious Argie victory, and post there.
hang on. i remember.
cos you third world dago cunts are shit and never won anything. Sorry. keep posting here then you mugs.
TrooperLFC 1 year ago
@TrooperLFC Falklanders is not a natural population in the islands, they was there by a original military british action in 1833. they have not rigth to self determination so idiot red
rainerschnaegger 1 year ago
@rainerschnaegger of course they are,hypocrite,they are ninth generation people,the islands are their home. You actually need to research the events of 1833,rather than spout bullshit,go and do some research.
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@TrooperLFC sorry ass trooper we kicked your ass 3 times in a role 1806-1807-1845 (last time with frenchies help)
what is up you cant find it i a book? the quennie erased that? cant you find it in the imperialist library?
I FEEL PITY FOR YOU
dagger377 1 year ago
FU! England ...what would happen if the US like always save your ass! Remember the Great Germany in 1943!!! We are wating for the 4th Reith!
disanlore 1 year ago
@disanlore 1943?....go read history knob-end.
4th reich..that's about right,Argentina,a country of nazi harbouring,chest beating surrender monkeys.
jonboy1973 1 year ago
To all the so called 'indigenous' Spanish in Argentina don't foret that the Conquistadors took over from the locals about 650 years ago so you don't have any claim really either. Not to mention the fact that Spain want Gibraltar whilst occupying two pieces of Morrocco. But thats a different story. Isn't it?
Dieselpom 1 year ago
Capital de Las Islas Malvinas: Puerto Argentino (Stanley)
Distancia entre Londres, Reino Unido y Puerto Argentino (Stanley): 12.700 Kilometros / 8000 Millas
Distancia entre Rio Grande, Argentina y Puerto Argentino (Stanley): 800 Kilometros / 500 Millas
"Las Islas Malvinas pertenecen geográficamente al continente sudamericano, y por este motivo constituyen parte natural del dominio territorial Argentino, en cuya proximidad se hallan."
No hay nada de honor en su guerra. MALVINAS ARGENTINAS
panzerargentina 1 year ago
@panzerargentina Have a little respect you cunt.
thebritish25 1 year ago
@thebritish25 Respeto a quien? a David? o a Goliad? Cual es el merito de matar gente del tercer mundo. Cual es el merito de seguir destruyendo pueblos? acaso su vida vale mas que la nuestra o la de un iraki?. El asesino se viste de honor y de gala al mismo tiempo pide que el mundo lo respete! El dia que respeten un avion de la cruz roja el mundo sabra de su piedad.
panzerargentina 1 year ago
@panzerargentina Fuckin Right it is people like you that make Argantineans look like disraspectfull cunts.
you dont respect or honor your heros you just argue about how you should have won a war that HAPPENED 27 Years ago.
thebritish25 1 year ago
call to your boyfriend usa jaja ingleses gays come here to malvinas alone and lets see what happens gaysss malvinas argentinas
holaroger 1 year ago
Basically ivanexocet is claiming that we are lying about our casualty numbers.Well that´s a laugh because there are Argentinian veterans that know the names of dead comrades that don´t appear on memorials & are still scared to sy anything :FACT.
dropshot007 1 year ago
The only reason the whole world hates on the UK and on superpowers in general is: JEALOUSY.
staponsa1 1 year ago
QUE VERGUENZA , los ingleses y jankees entrenan , que de 1000 hombre solo mueran 10 , y en MALVINAS murieron mas de 1000 hombres ... y que no reconocen los mentirosos ingleses .... y engañan a su pueblo como siempre con grandes mentiras ...
ivanexocet 1 year ago
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The Argies learnt that the British forces are one of if not THE most determined,professional and couragous armed forces any where in the world.Trained to a standard that many many countries can only dream of.The brave,honourable and selfless forces are something that fills our nation ith endless pride and gratitude......
bannon1000 1 year ago
The Argies learnt that the British forces are one of if not THE most determined,professional and couragous armed forces any where in the world.Trained to a standard that many many countries can only dream of.The brave,honourable and selfless forces are something that fills our nation ith endless pride and gratitude......
bannon1000 1 year ago
why not show as he sank his ships ... do not remember the HMS Sheffield, HMS Coventry, HMS Ardent, HMS Antelope, RFA Sir Galahad, RFA Sir Tristram, and some more? General Belgrano we remember ...
moody65infantery 1 year ago
, yer also remmbered your country surrendering under the name Falkland Islands, your infantry are WANK infact your whole armed forces are WANK
SHAME!!! on Argentina for not taking home their war dead
madjaime2007 1 year ago
@madjaime2007 los muertos por la guerra descansaran en la tierra que defendieron de invasores hasta la muerte... no sentimos verguenza de haber luchado y haber perdido.
verguenza tendrian que sentir ustedes al invadir paisers al otro lado del mundo. y si tenemos que volver a declararle la la guerra otra vez no nos importaria. volveriamos a pelear por lo que es, fue y sera nuestro.
saludo
moody65infantery 1 year ago
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08/06/82: 162 british died .Ataque en Fitz Roy. Son hundidos: HMS Sir Galahad (89 died), HMS Sir Tristam (40 died), lanchón de desembarco (LCU) Foxtrot (10+ died) (aunque no estaba lleno de soldados, debido a que transportaba material logístico, las bajas pueden ser mayores). Mueren (8died) chinos en la playa, debido a los fuertes bombardeos.
Es dejado fuera de combate el HMS Avenger (5 died). Ataque al HMS Plymouth en Bahía Agradable (10 died)
kepuysac 1 year ago
What is amusing is Argies talking about the British old coloniel days.We could talk about their dirty war were sanctions were placed against them by many countries.Because thousands of their own people vanished,were tortured,imprisoned and never heard of again...their own people!!!!Moving to more recent times you attacked and LOST...and that is that....learn some dignity,reason and pride and maybe just maybe your country will progress...quoting ancient history just vweakens your argument.
bannon1000 2 years ago
Its pathetic, people trying to score political points on a video about remembering the fallen and the veteran who fought on both sides.
MrTom07 2 years ago
edpolar63, funny to hear that Britain went all over the world killing and stealing defensless people in India, Africa (the Zulues made them paid though) etc, but when a pacific country recover his islands without killing an ant, THEN they start talking about "international law" and "self determination".
Are Britain nowdays occuping any foreign country? I wonder!
Arminevh 2 years ago
Argentina has 2 "FAST ATTACK VESSELS" THE INTREPIDA CLASS.....these FAST ATTCK vessels are 37 years old and still their rapid response vessels.I have managed to get hold of some oars for them,to increase their speed.....i assume they still float.If any Argie can send their address i'll get the oars to them,it will be the first update of these boats in a qurater of a century ha ha ha ha.Or we can send some rubber dingy's with sticks if you just want to replace them with a new vessel ha ha ha
bannon1000 2 years ago
Mate the dingy would be a lot more powerful than their best warship LOL
webb20k 2 years ago
@Arminevh.....I have the rubber dingy's to replace the 37 year old INTREPIDA CLASS "FAST ATTACK" BOATS YOUR NAVY USES ...ALL 2 OF !!! HA HA.I have also managed to find a website that deals in motors from old washing machines etc.....if you want it( to update the engines in your modern 30 year old main battle tanks)let me know ha ha ha.I also think you could replace radars for the first time in 30-50 years by using homing pigeons and dolphins...well what else can you do???NOTHING HA HA
bannon1000 2 years ago
@Arminevh Pseudo-intellectual half-wit, Pacific country ? how many of their own people had they already killed before seting foot on the Falkland Islands?
dropshot007 1 year ago
Falklanders have decided to remain British? How about the rights of those Argentinean settlers who along Governor Vernet were expelled from the islands. Shouldn't we consider the decision of their descendants as well? That is international law. We are not only going to get Malvinas back, we will go for old Wales too! After all, many Argentineans have right to those lands too!
edpolar63 2 years ago
1) Is there any proof they were actually expelled?
2) How many Argentinians can prove they descent from the settlers who arrived with Vernet?
3) What do you mean by old Wales?
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
What ever the arguments,you can not just in this day and age go around invading and occupying other soverign states terrioty.If you made proper representations to the Security council and did it the right way and the ISLANDERS CHOOSE to be Argentine fine.....just saying many many many years ago they were our islands so we are taking them now BY FORCE IS NOT HOW IT WORKS IAM AFRAID....AS YOU DISCOVERED.
bannon1000 2 years ago
Precisely, you said it. You take somebody else's land by force, you settle a handfull of your own and then you have them deciding if they want to be with you or with the original owner of the land. It looks like the scheme did not work in Hong Kong, right? How long before Gibraltar goes back to Spain?
edpolar63 2 years ago
You miss the point deliberatly i assume to avoid admiting defeat and that armed invasion is wrong.If you can not fight a war or cope with loosing dont attack some one else's land....that way you will not be humilited.And you try to bring in other issues this was about you attacking our land and us taking it back and 28 years later we still have it....DEAL WITH DEFEAT AND OUR OWNERSHIP HA HA HA
bannon1000 2 years ago
@edpolar63 did you know hong kong was never settled by many british we let the natives live there freely just turned it into a rich port and hong kong had no choice they would have voted to remain we returned it only becus we took it as a 99 year loan and gibraltar they voted 99%(many with spanish relatives) for british rule the othe 1% wer spanish or outcasts so you have just made yourself look retarded and gib was signed away for ever in the treaty
JamesCunnyy 1 year ago
@edpolar63 and 1/4 of france should be ours signed away in a treaty yet we only given channel islands but the french rarely keep their word hence iraq etc send more troops in well do it later.........
JamesCunnyy 1 year ago
m8 you r not geting enything try take our land our army is ready and waiting.
davebrdshw 1 year ago
bannon, we ve got many British flags in our museums captured in 1806 and 1807 when we made you bite the dust. I cant say it is a nice flag at all, it seems rather like a napkin
Arminevh 2 years ago
you will never win get used to it
burnley5960 2 years ago
There's a diffrence between a flag & a country's armed forces.You dont rely on flag to protect a country,thats up to your ARMED FORCES.Nor does a flag speak aboyut your international standing,as your military does.You could use the flag as a sail to help your ships move,or tie on your Mirage fighters,you know the one's the ex-Isreali ones that when they went to retire them them you said we'll have who cares if they have been in wars and are 30+years old there better than our 50 year old skyhawk
bannon1000 2 years ago
What a nice flag the union jack is,i bet you Argies get to admire IT EVERDAY WITH IT FLYING OVER OUR FALKLANDS.
bannon1000 2 years ago
las malvinas siempre seran argentinas viva la patria carajo!!! o juremos con gloria morir o juremos con gloria morir
angelcopiloto 2 years ago
ingleses cagones los agarra FRANCIA y los hace MIERDA
MrBullon 2 years ago
Love you Daddy.
cpk93 2 years ago
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LUJANENSE 2 years ago
First time i've heard someone talk without bias on a video regarding the islands. Its the for the islands themselves to decide their fate as you said. We don't feel like we have done your nation over as we hold these islands. The war should'nt have happened and for people to insult either nations is only insulting the men that died there! rest in peace all men who fell in 1982.
whiteholedy88 2 years ago
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LUJANENSE 2 years ago
whiteholedy88, the Falklanders have decided. They decided to remain British. They should be left in peace.
it is Armed Forces Day today:
Thank you to those who serve. Remember the fallen, honour the veterans.
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KGBfbiSECUpolitia 1 year ago
Shut up Millan. us british nearly lost the falkland islands though. my dad was in this war. we were very badly eqiped and we didnt have enough amphibious kit to take over the islands. and then the result was we won but only just. we became very close from loosing falklands. i just want to say that was a fact
alnsman 2 years ago
Hey Briton why do you care so much about this islands when nobody in your country did care for 150 years? are you gona go there yip.? Buy a piece of land, or camping? when your people consider the kelpers second class citizens. What you really care you motherfucker is about your stinky ego what you care" The islands belong to us to to the people of UK. Fuck your Queen!!!!
millan4315 2 years ago
The retard exposes himself.....you know,insults show you for the idiot you are...you know nothing of the Falklands,you know nothing of the British people..as for your other comments,the only time you ever stand a chance of getting the Falklands,something that has NOTHING to do with Argentina,is if our nation were destroyed by another...but it would not be down to "brave" Argentines like yourself,pathetic man
jonboy1973 2 years ago
The true is that as soon the world war starts your country will no have a chance.
Russia and China + NK and Iran will erase you fron the main land with all your ego from Harod's and at the end we will take the Malvinas and I will piie in the grave yard of all the motherfucker britons die in malvinas. Long fuck to your queen.........jajajaja
millan4315 2 years ago
Nk and Iran are pis ass weak, the UK could single handedly beat them.
Russia and China also could not single handedly deafeat britain. the Uk has a much better navy than Russia or china.
to beat the UK you must have a better navy than the UK and the Uk has the second most powerful navy in the world
Numbers dont = military power
FlytheUnionJack 2 years ago 2
you an ass hole go and kill yourself
davebrdshw 1 year ago
You are right I was not there the only thing I like is to full with a motherfucker briton like you. Who likes to practice his way of colonialism world wide. But you know something the end is close. One of this days your motherfucker country as well as US will have to confront NK or Iran and that will be the end. Because on top of that you will see China and Russia ....
millan4315 2 years ago
Colonialism is something that my country has not done for many years...Argentina did,in 1982,at least it did for 74 days...no go away you hypocrite
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LUJANENSE 2 years ago
@jonboy1973 you brits colonialism in your blood.
you invaded iraq and stole thier land.you are brits rubbers.
SuperZepra 1 year ago
@SuperZepra actually,we pulled out of Iraq over a year ago,our job of liberating there done. And south america is the biggest example of colonialism,absolutely hilarious
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973 i hope that someday we pull out our troops from iraq.
the iraqi war was not liberation war,it was simply rubbing the iraqi oil.
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SuperZepra 1 year ago
@SuperZepra US veteran. Britains job of liberating,then stabilising Basra is done,and our troops have left,and where have we benefited? As for the US robbing Iraqi oil,i can't comment,i am not a US national
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973 FUNNY JONYBOY the colonialism will finish when the fucking british pirates retreat their colonies from malvinas (argentina) gibraltar (españa) and all other countries were you invaded and brought pain
fucking asholes the little island stole natural resources for over 300 years and still doing so (malvinas oil) THEY WILL BE A DAY when the justice will be made and you will pay for old this years
FUCK YOU BRITISH i reccomend you to watch the sheefield sunking i love to see it burn
dagger377 1 year ago
@dagger377 So are YOU going to leave south america? as you are colonial settlers from Europe,i would imagine you are,unless of course,you are another hypocrite.
The Sheffield's loss was sad,although her sacrifice was not in vain,as the war was won,the islands returned to their rightful owners.
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973 the brits have no respect for any south american country. we are a unique nation once again in argentina's case we mostly descend of inmigrants that come in 2 big inmigratory waves XIX and XX century.. you go to research a little and learn fucking imperialist that we dont have nothing to do with the spaniards THAT is colonialism thinkig the one that you have.
dagger377 1 year ago
@dagger377 don't ned to research,the Falklands have been British since before your nation came into existence,and like it or not,you are a product of imperialistic Spain,a country that raped and murdered the people of south America,unlike the Falklands,uninhabited before Britain landed. WE have much respect for the people of Chile,a truly honourable south American people. have a nice day daggy waggy xx
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
I think you need to realize that the people in South America are no products of Spain than the Americans are of Britain, which is to say, that they are two hundred years removed from the Imperial policies that you conveniently lambast...lol!
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra indeed,and no more the product are the people of the Falklands.ninth generation people,colonialism is an argument offered by Argentines,and its hypocrisy is highlighted by such comments,when Argentina tried to annexe the islands only 28 years ago,,,,,an act of colonialism!
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suryavajra 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
so are you arguing that these islanders see themselves as an ''American'' people for lack of a better term?
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra not at all sury,the islanders are a ninth generation people,who choose to maintain their links with the UK,they are an overseas protectorate,with their own elections and laws. Many Argentines use the argument that the islanders are British,this may be the case,although many are of scandinavian,and indeed Spanish descent,the bottom line is,Argentina chose independence from Spain,the Falklands chose to remain part of the UK,their democratic right!
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
pity, that would of made your cases stronger. Look, we the Free people of the New World would appreciate it if you keep your protectorates well and truly away from our part of the world...lol!!
But the fact of the matter is that we cannot morally condone colonialism in an area of the world that has always stood against it.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra exactly,and colonialism was what argentina attempted in 1982,you cannot call a ninth generation people a colony,a people that have been there as long as other nations in south america have existed,just because they express their democratic self determination,and remain British,after all,you come from the "land of the free"!!!!
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
No it's not. Argentina was and is a Republic. Therefore 1982 could not have possibly been about a ''colonial'' project. Countries in the New World are anti-colonial and if anything they do not possess any territory off the coast of Europe, do they?
If they want to remain British as opposed to embracing the New World, they ought to just take the long boat ride back so they could be with 60 million of their countrymen.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra never had you down as a facist sury,the act of 2 april 1982,was armed annexation of sovereign territory,against the will of the people of the Falklands,a peaceful people of nine generations,they rely on Britain only for defence,as they are too small to defend themselves against Argentina,a nation that has a history of failing to recognise borders. Had the Falklands chose independence in 1833,we would not be having this conversation,and the Falklands would have been annexed by facist
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
I'm not a fascist at all, and neither were they. They may have been a military junta and a police state, but that's not what the definition of fascism is.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra the were indeed a facist state,the murdered all who opposed them,including nuns,they tortured all who dared to stand up to them,that is fact.
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
It was a state ruled by a military junta. That's not a fascist state. They're close ideologically, but that doesn't make them the same exact thing.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra another point for you sury,Argentina was a dictatorship in 1982,headed by a facist junta,responsible for murdering over 30.000 of its own people,and guilty of many crimes,and how a US citizen fails to recognise the Falklands,when Hawaii lives,by its own choice,as part of the US,really surprises me,i credited you with not being a hypocrite sury!
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
Except General Galtieri was a hard working ally of the united States. He was essential in counter-insurgency effort against communists in Central America.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra thats ok then,better have a nazi loving facist,than commies...you really are disappointing me here sury!, Galtieri was a drunken bully,clinging to power by invading the Falklands,to galvanise his fickle people,you don't know much about the Falklands,obviously.
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
well jonboy, I find this holier than thou rheotirc disconcerting. Could you tell me the nature of the UK's close, personal albeit clandestine alliance with Pinochet of Chile?? There's enough literature that talks about that as a backdrop of the conflict.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra well sury,my "holier than thou" rhetoric comes from a hatred of hypocrisy,and ignorance of the subject,Pinochet was a friend to thatcher,that is well documented,although Chile played little or no role in the conflict,until Galtieri invaded the Falklands,and in one of his brash arrogant statements,he told Chile they were next,so as regards a backdrop,no,but a consequence of Galtieri's warmongering,then Chile became a player,for sure
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
Well this ''friend of Thatcher'' apparently isalso accused of killing a lot of people. I read somewhere that Chile was chosen as a place for SAS operators to end up in, after a proposed a raid into the Argentinean mainland. This op never happened, but even a proposal of such suggests that a clandestine military alliance and understanding existed between the two countries. Not that I make judgments against you for it.
I'm just more open in agreeing wirth the (cont)
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra
Jean Kirkpatrick model of international relations....
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra Jean Kirkpatrick,an irish american,and an anglophobe,she dined with Galtieri as his troops invaded the Falklands,and tried to murder British royal marines,at Moody Brook,..at least we had a first class ally in Casper Weinberger,a true gent,and supporter of freedom
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
So what if she was?? If we had listened to her, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in over in South America.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra well,she was anti British in her views before this started,so was never going to look at the situation objectively,and had you listened to her,relations with a cold war ally,would have soured,and places like Greenham Common,and Holy Loch would not have been so readily supported by people in the UK. I haven't set out to offend Sury,if i have,it is because this subject is very close to home for me,i come from Portsmouth,where the fleet sailed from,and many didn't return
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
My friend, I didn't know that about you.
I was born and raised in a border state (California). So for me I look down south, and I see Chavez, Morales, and Castro up to their shenanigans and succeeding in winning many south American countries to their side. I hear from mm Mexican friends the horrors of what is going on in their country due to narco terrorism and the drug cartels. I wonder why with all of the danger, thousands of US troops are stationed in Europe to (cont)
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra
guard the safety and defense of Europe when our own borders are being penetrated by violent gangs and worse.
So you see now why i would be inclined towards men like Galtieri and Pinochet?? they may not have been good, moral men, but without these guys look at what has happened. We have very little standing or influence in South America. Instead it has become the backyard for the Russians, the Chinese and the Iranians.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra i totally agree with you,but i fear Putin is somebody not to be trusted,and US troops in Europe are maybe there because the pentagon knows something we don't?
The world is a troubled and insecure place,but ultimately we have to trust our leaders to make the right call!
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
The problem atleast with the leaders here in the US, is that once they cross Potomac and reside in the Washington, New York Corridor, they forget all about the rest of the 99% of the country and their concerns. They become far too receptive to special interest groups than the constituents that put them there. They are interested in doing what is politically correct as opposed to what is for the greater good.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
Putin cannot be totally trusted. And his posturing vis a vis Europe and the Americas are troubling. But ultimately he or atleast someone like him would be needed to put a check on the Chinese, if need be. As you can see, this gets really, really complicated!!
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra for sure,and China has influence over North Korea,it is all a little like walking a tight rope! Putin's willingness to export AIP submarine tech is worrying though,without is obvious "flexing of muscles",such as the renewed incursions in British airspace by long range rec aircraft....
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
That's true. Also using energy reserves as a sort of economic weapon against European countries. So yeah, definitely you do see all of these things.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra yes,it is a troubled region for sure,Chavez is totally an enemy to all,and it is problem for the world,as the narcotics end up on the streets of Europe too...i wonder if Kirkpatrick was impartial over the Falklands,Galtieri may have had second thoughts? who knows,but it was one of those situations that in the long run,has probably made matters worse all round.
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
Well I'm not sure that her being Irish-American had anything to do with it. I'm pretty sure that she was running her own foreign policy calculus equation and concluded that it was better to keep with the right-wing authoritarian dictator then left wing totalitarian rulers. In fact she wrote as much in an academic paper that got her recognized by the Reagan administration even though she was a lifelong Democrat.
suryavajra 1 year ago
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jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
could you elaborate her relationship with the British foreign office??
suryavajra 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
I think had Galiteri been told under no uncertain terms that his policy would lead to a War, he would of backed down. The only reason he agreed to the whole operation or so I read, was it was a bone that he threw to appease the Argentinian Naval establishment for their support for his junta. He was ultimately interested in regime survival. So had he been warned with no doubts as to what would happen, then he would of not even launched the invasion in the first place.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra yes,i think admiral Anaya had eyes on the leadership,and was ambitious with regard to the Falklands,for sure.
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
Yep, the Navy's objectives were far different than the Army's. The latter of which came to power amid terrorist attacks by Left-wing and communist groups. So the Army were chomping at the bits to fight communists and those they perceived as fifth columnists in Argentina.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra the raid was palnned,the chopper landed in Chile,but the raid was then aborted,this only happened after Galtieri threatened Chile that they were next,and moved units of his army to the border,so i guess Argentina strengthened an ally for us there.
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
Yes, I believe that was it!! But you see jonboy, the world is filled with dangerous and unsavory characters. If you always made strategic decisions based on high minded ideals you would be outflanked and overrun by even more dangerous enemies. Galtieri and Pinochet weren't choir boys. But those were the only guys available with the muscle and the firepower to stand against the communists, who I guarantee you would of been a hundred times worse.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra i totally agree,the US was between a rock and a hard place(i am pro US,by the way),it is kind of ironic that we supported,then ousted Saddam,and made that region worse,however,the invasion was a total gamble on Galtieris part,
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973
Well ousting Saddam came with a price. We unwittingly strengthened the hand of the clerical regime in Iran without them ever having to fire a shot. Remember it was Saddam who fought the Iranians for eight years, not the sniveling rich boy, terrorist sympathizing princelings in Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf States that our two governments support and hob nob with....
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra LOL so the American colonies of Peuto RIco, The American Virgin Islands and Guam do not exist then. And Argentinian imperial asperations in SOuth America are a chimera and the attempted land grab of the Falklands a legitimate British possession claimed by Britain prior to the establishment of Argentina was not an imperialist adventure. That is too funny -- furthermore the competing claims on the Falklands by Spain and France were both ceded to Britain before Argentina invaded c1832.
balderdashandpiffle 3 months ago
@dagger377
Buenos Días, dagger. You tengo respeto por los países de Sudamerica. Eres hijos y hijas de imigrantes cómo mí.
Viva Jose de San Martin!!
suryavajra 1 year ago
Different missions one at the sea May 25Shefield down later when you guys invaded the Malvinas in June we went for it. I can't give the details. Later at Malvinas we deployed to fly our Pucaras no chance. We just didn't return to the mother land. I was captured later.
millan4315 2 years ago
Correction Sea I saw in other mission 0542 Nw. Lat 34, 89 W. several ships. I fired one E. and hit the Sheffield nice hit all dead?? I saw the ships burning nice hell next time I wish to drop a Nuke.
millan4315 2 years ago
so,after you fired your Exocet..from a mirage???? you went looking for the Queen Mary????? you are a thick cunt aren`t you?
jonboy1973 2 years ago
To all of you Briton magged, whopperhead .
I was one of the Arg. pilots who flew over Malvinas was nice to the ships burning.
I was trying to sunk the Queen M. but I didn't have much fuel. My Mirage was just ready for only one pass. I did drop 2 Mk bombs and they got close to her. Next time there is a part of one of the films when I got the overpass. We defeat it but at the see did hit hard your Royal Navy.
Exocets we got plenty but didn't arrive on time. next time.
millan4315 2 years ago
fuckin funny,you claim to be a Brit vet on other videos...you clearly know fuck all about this conflict,so go back to playing with your marbles...or go on to some vietnam videos and talkl bollocks on there
jonboy1973 2 years ago
walter Mitty mean anything to you millan?
45545512 2 years ago
look to all of you argentines out there...... SHUTUP AND STOP WINGING!.... you declared war on us ... and we kicked your ass... did u reli expect to beat us... we were out of your league and sent over just 1 task force to deal with your entire army lmao.... o yeh and we kinda beat you in 40 days.... hahahaha
just face it you got raped by a country a tenth of your size hahaha.... it was a clear defeat!
kennytoxic666 2 years ago
The British Forces didn't fight that well, I was there. They fought against to a group of kids 18 years old, with not experience in war!!
No even well train, with not real weapons.
The true was at the sea when the real Arg. Air Force sunk 10 ships and damaged many more included the Invincible who was at the sea for repairs for 2 years without touching any harbor.
The kelpers are not recognized by the British so fuck them
millan4315 2 years ago
of course you weren`t there knob end,you talk total bollocks
jonboy1973 2 years ago
Its possible have a conversation between argentinians and englishs without insults? Its so difficult?
EmilianoStoessel 2 years ago
Not really,i am happy to talk without insults,it seems to be a reaction when you lose an argument,or run out of legitimate argument,you turn to insults,or in your case Emiliano,it is normally threats.
jonboy1973 2 years ago 3
"Not really,i am happy to talk without insults,it seems to be a reaction when you lose an argument,or run out of legitimate argument,you turn to insults,or in your case Emiliano,it is normally threats. "......I never attack anybody, NEVER, I only defende myself when your agressives cuntryments insult me, thats all.
EmilianoStoessel 2 years ago
Nobody insulted you when you wrote this:
"...punch a british is one of my dreams.............I HATE YOU PEOPLE, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT?....."
You need professional help mate.
grease16 2 years ago
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I propose a reconciliation between Argentina and England......after all, we are all humans beings. Argentina must renunce to his claims for those islands and respect the falklanders whishes, and they choose be englishs citizens......ITS TIME TO START OVER PEOPLE!!!! I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST FROM THE DEEPEST PLACE IN MY HEART!!!!!!
EMILIANO JAVIER STOESSEL
EmilianoStoessel 2 years ago
Check the history and the map, Malvinas Argentine.
bbking1960 2 years ago
The history is that the Falklands have been British since 1690 Argentina has existed since 1816 Argentina gave up any claim it thought it had on 15 may 1850 And what exactly does a map have to do with it? if geography was an argument why aren`t you claiming Chile for example? that too is an independent sovereign territory?
jonboy1973 2 years ago
Correction, Argentina oficially exists since the 25 May Revolution from 1810........
EmilianoStoessel 2 years ago
oh, i do apologise,ok The Falklands have been British since 1690
Argentina has existed since 1810.... doesn`t really alter the argument that much does it??????????
jonboy1973 2 years ago
"oh, i do apologise,ok
The Falklands have been British since 1690
Argentina has existed since 1810.... doesn`t really alter the argument that much does it??????????"......yes, well, maybe in the Falklands Issue you are right but doest change the fact that your beatiful nation commit thousands of crimes around the world.
EmilianoStoessel 2 years ago
hahah, you browneyed black haired southern european bastards make me sick!.
The Falklands will remain British, do you think that the government in London spends 250 mill a year to safe guard the 'wishes' of 2000 islanders,of which around 1500 'go on holiday' for 6 months during the winter??? This is about British pride, its a barometer of external perception of the British resolve,much in the same was Sarkozy in france is re-igniting french empire glory!. Britain will never leave! Thank god!
folkard84 2 years ago
Its more then British pride. First, they voted to remain with us (So yes, I think our government would pour money in to help them- same reason we are still poring money into the economic black hole that is Northern Ireland. We cannot just abandon British citezens). Second, the Falklands is sitting on top of a shit load of oil. It is predicted the Falklanders will become some of the richest people on earth when we start mining there.
Azog150 2 years ago
Yes, the Falklands are a mirocosom of Australia, an anglo out-post in the southern hemisphere, like our falkland cousins we speak english, retain the angloceltic cultural values and consider the societies of both our immediate neighbours to be both foreign and revolting. It has never been about the islanders,Argentina continues to approach islanders individually,with offers of re-seetlement, when the Argentine force landed, they knew the natives werent spanish,that was just a myth of the junta!
folkard84 2 years ago
I basically agree about the Falklands, but I have questions?
- How do you know that they have brown eyes and black hair? Many southern Europeans have green, gray or even blue eyes and they rearly have really black hair.
- What's wrong with brown eyes and black hair in the first place? ;)
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
God save the Queen. As a 5th generation white Australian I am proud to say (like 70% of our population of 20 million) that I am genetically 100% anglo-saxon. Australian army regulars were on stand-by during the conflict, I only wish that we got to wax those greasy spanish wogs, would have been quite an experience. In 1999 Australia voted 51%-TO 48% to keep the british monarchy,,,, God save the Queen
folkard84 2 years ago 3
The Aussies would have made a massive impression,shame they didn`t go,top soldiers
jonboy1973 2 years ago
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folkard84 2 years ago
There are two things that make me proud to be British: one is the BBC and the other is our armed forces who serve.
Thanks guys
SteveO873 2 years ago
LCPL Anthony Streafield REME KIA on the Galahad RIP Me old mate, im 50 now, wher are you??
remeclerk 3 years ago
Jeez in tears now, lost my mates in this
remeclerk 3 years ago
Of course, my friend, of course......but I like fight with the fists, you know...
Thats when he can get it off his cock
forgive him he lives in villa 31
cp4snowhill 3 years ago
ok but... Argentina has never lost a piece of soil since 1940... it has increased its terrain by 30%... and the british empire has lost their colonies all over the planet, your time has gone and that war was the very beginning... someday you'll crave for resources in your tiny little rainy island...
BR177 3 years ago
You 'lost' the Beagle Channel dispute with the territorial loses it entailed and that was much more recent than 1940 .
iroscoe 3 years ago
ahahaha no we didn't... we increased our territories by 30%... the south was completely taken from chile... we also conquered the northwest from countries like bolivia and peru...
BR177 3 years ago
Then why did Argentina bitch so much about the arbitration,and is it not hypocritical to boast of your countrys own imperialism whilst criticising that of others? .
iroscoe 3 years ago
we do that because it is convenient for foreign politics... argentina was an empire too... anti imperialism critics are uneducated scums or lazy losers who don't own its own country history
BR177 3 years ago
An honest and accurate analysis .
iroscoe 3 years ago
don't know*
BR177 3 years ago
The same reason that made the english reject the falklands renamed into malvinas apply in the Greeks regecting the name of the Greek province of Macedonia to an artificial slavic entity like "former yugoslav republic of macedonia" that is tottaly unrelated to the name and history and heritage of the land.
the world must support the trouth and not two standards
audy8000 3 years ago
The Argies cant even look after the War Memorial in BA,Litter and cigarette butt litter. disgrasful
cp4snowhill 3 years ago
I think its time to attack again the Falklands...I dont see other option.
EmilianoStoessel 3 years ago
and suffer a defeat again? emiliano,thanks to your last foray 1982,there is now a garrison defending the island,a detachment of eurofighter aircraft,and probably a SSN somewhere nearby,your army would be slaughtered before they knew what day it was.
jonboy1973 3 years ago 2
yes, you are right.....it would be something really stupid.
EmilianoStoessel 3 years ago
but someday you will receive that you deserve.....all come back in life....remember it, Joncito.
EmilianoStoessel 3 years ago
Try again in the future if you wish but more of you will die, even more so now our forces are battle hardened...
civicmike01 3 years ago
No way.... that war was a political error, those guys, "the kelpers" were starving to death in their little island... discriminated by the english goverment, forgotten until the war victory... We should aid those guys in times to come... When the british empire finally losses all of their colonies all over the world... we will help them, embrace them, and support them to make a decent living without spending our vast resources in shameful guns
BR177 3 years ago
Starving? what total bollocks,if that was the case why did the islanders not welcome the invading Argentines? they clapped the Parachute regiment into stanley on the day of liberation....another dillusioned Argentine who believes his revisionist history rather than the truth.
jonboy1973 3 years ago
You need mental help mate....
McTonker 3 years ago
I hope you volunteer to lead the attack .
iroscoe 3 years ago
Of course, my friend, of course......but I like fight with the fists, you know...
EmilianoStoessel 3 years ago
You sound scarey...with a man of your calibre leading the charge Argentina cannot fail to route the evil British Pirates and liberate the grateful Islanders....
iroscoe 3 years ago
lol pussy shut up and say that when you join the army
flighboyil2 3 years ago
Yea there is a nice little Angie grave yard that could diffidently could fit you in and any other who would like to Try , Lossers
Tony2438 2 years ago
what is a losser?
MrSyrett 2 years ago
Its half loser and tosser
Tony2438 2 years ago
Maybe you should have thought of that before you started?
Is that stupidity?
TroyaE117 3 years ago
The Argentine submarine Santa Fe lasted about 20 minutes in Grytviken, shot full of holes.
It was lucky it was caught in shallow water.
Yes, 20 minutes, and the Argentine crew bravely ran it aground and surrendered.
What a bunch of loud mouthed cowards, full of noise and fury, but signifying nothing when the fists come up.
TroyaE117 3 years ago
That seems to about sum them up Troya,all hot air and bravado,Brave pilots,but that is about all
jonboy1973 3 years ago
hm..the killed Argie killed by gunfire...he was unarmed tried to secure the ship after it was beached. Shot by a full-armed soldier, just because both did not understand each other...not a brave deed eiher ihn my eyes. I dont want to diminish the bravery of english soldiers but stay fair and dont call all the Argies cowards just because they were untrained and feared the british soldiers as well as they feared th own government with all its stupid parols
grazyarnie 3 years ago
I am reffering to the Santa Fee here...she was beached at Grytviken and then a sailor was shot who tried to secure the ship by a SAS who did not understand what he was saying in spanish. And the argentine Sailor did not understand wht the SAS guy shouted at him.
grazyarnie 3 years ago