I also brought up the idiocy of the drug war and he said that was my fault and the businessmen who lobbied the government BUT NOT THE GOVERNMENT ENFORCING THE LAW. Typical socialist, gov can do no wrong. I responded with "okay so 80 years before I was born some businessmen who are long since dead lobbied the government and the result is my fault, and the long dead businessmen's fault but not the government's? He said the law doesn't seem to be stopping you, people never admit their wrong.
Ironic that I found this video. Just yesterday I was in an argument with a guy claiming the exact opposite of this. He was literally telling me "you are the government." "they ARE you". So I said how can they be me? Its a physical impossibility that someone else can BE me. His argument was that my being able to argue with people and having a 1/300,000,000 say in who gets elected makes me responsible for government, pretty laughable as even if the guy I want gets elected he will do what he wants.
sometimes you cant walk away and sometimes its nessecary to stand your ground peace is an illusion behind violence you cant have peace without violence
@wordword31 By educating individuals out of myths/statism... it will take thousands of years most likely and will not occur in my lifetime, but by setting the example and not participating in statism slavery, I believe we can educate more people out of the false belief that statism is ethical and efficient, and expose it as the indentured system that it truly is.
@mikeshanklin I find the approach honorable, but ineffective as these movements do not bear fruit until someone is killed for the cause. NO one cares about arrests no matter how bad it looks and they get the wrong idea about your approach. The 1 man movement is well-documented and none of them made headway without approaching real power with your earnest concerns in a legal fashion (meaning with lawyers backing your claims.) Keep up the good work and I hope you WIN!
@mikeshanklin 7 billion lifetimes are here now, with education individuals will create ethical and efficient systems. Direct, or participatory democracy on local & global levels will enable the people power to truly thrive. Free internet for all. If we can youtube comment, we can discuss the issues online. If we can bank online, we can vote online. Enable ALL individual voices through ongoing transparent voting on important issues, thats a start. Facebook and Youtube twitetc are amazing tools!
I was born into a system I had no say in. I have grown up in a system I had no say in. Now that I am an adult, I still have no say in the system despite the illusion that I can vote and have a "say". ...its all lies... ...we are slaves, kept in little boxes and divided by false lines on a map...
I agree with this video because the entire population in this country never signed, and/or consented to the constitution, hence the social contract theory is debunked. To all those that blindly defend government, do you not see the dead bodies?
Oh yeah, we arent bombing innocent people. i said WE. my two tours, I didn't, nor did anyone else, bomb innocent women and children.
I hear you throw that around a lot in your videos. "Killing women and children" this and that. Ever stop to think how many Afghans kill women and children for showing a little ankle? i'm not agreeing with the war, but i sure as hell don't agree with the stuff you say.
"my two tours, I didn't, nor did anyone else, bomb innocent women and children."
You have got to be joking right?!? There have been over 500,000 children deaths in the last 10 years alone... innocent women added... I don't even want to think of the number... You remind me of Hitler's troops who denied all the bad till the end. So, now that you know the FACTS, that children and women murdered at racist whim overseas... what do you have to say about my FACTS?!? These are FACTS...
"When did you deploy?" I do not contribute to slavery. All militaries/socialism are funded through taxation theft. I am not a criminal. I do not steal from peaceful people, I will never join the government mafia.
"And, your getting your facts from where?" Dude, where the hell have you been? We killed 368 civilians in May alone... where the hell have you been?!? Oh, that's right, supporting the murder...
@MrDerby2u Oh, and just to let you know, I am against Sharia law also... I am against all religions as they are just a different form of brainwashing. I believe that people have the right to do whatever they want, as long as they don't infringe on others. That means they should have the right not to have taxation theft forced on them. I stand for REAL Freedom... maybe you should watch my video on 9/11 terrorism...
@mikeshanklin im not going to contribute to you or your videos.
you call me a Nazi and you want me to subscribe to you?
i remind you of Hitler's troops, do i?
here's the difference: I don't throw around 'innocent Women and children" to prove my point about jews taking away their food and money... wait, that sounds a lot like YOUR speeches... if you switch 'jews' with 'government', its exactly the same... hmm, maybe u need to take a step back, mein fuhrer.
@MrDerby2u and I never called you a Nazi... so quit putting words in people's mouths. I said you remind me of people who were brainwashed by their country into believing what they were doing was moral and ethical.... it's all total bullshit.
"I don't throw around 'innocent Women and children" to prove my point "
You really should start... educating people on reality is important.
@MrDerby2u Jews taking away their food and money?!? What are you talking about?!? I am against statism, not pro-terrorism. In fact, the entire reason I am anti-statist is because it IS TERRORISM. YOU are the terrorist. If someone doesn't pay your extortion/taxation... you will have your gang tackle and imprison them. That is NOT Freedom, that is a form of terrorism.... YOU are the terrorist because you are a part of government.
about 35% of the people vote. is it out of this 'im not going to get boned by the man', 'big brother is just holding us all down' kind of mentality? it's a collective 'my one vote won't do anything'. Imagine if we ALL actually went out and voted. what kinda government would we have now?
we are, very much, the government. 65% of people don't elect who is in office, because they don't care. not doing anything about it = not caring.
if you don't vote, you don't care, so don't complain
Looks like the Asia will be buying up all the commodities in sight coal, oil, copper, fertizliers, soybeans. Get ready for $1000 a month electric bills& grocery bills.
I am a Resource Based Economist. There is a way to break away from all the world shananagins. Watch Zeitgeist Addendum. Get you act together and become a RBE.
@MercComet73 Why do you need to educate me about Zeitgeist Addendum? Shouldn't you spend that time building the robots? Why can't we at least support a world of voluntaryism until the robots (created by humans with human calculations) control production? Why is my act not together in your opinion? What are your thoughts on the nonaggression principle?!?
@mikeshanklin support a world of voluntarism *two thumbs up*. I hope the enslaved market system crashes into forced volunteerism...perhaps my thoughts are too aggressive? LOL
His opening statement wasn't bad but then it went into a utopian concept of how we can be individuals and we needs to be and how we aren't apart of the government, That is complete crap because without government there wouldn't be any mainstream things like world news and designer waters and things that majority of Americans take for granted...people need to honestly wake up and look into where things come from like the outlet you plug your computer into isn't some magical energy producing box.
@Adept2k11 Yeah, we would have no roads and no air and no houses and no computers and no food and no..... LMFAO, GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK! You are really crazy and out there man... as if institutionalized violence is what makes us productive... that is complete lunacy. Almost everything we have has come from entrepreneurs and people working in a market (a market that happens to be extremely enslaved), but a market nonetheless. Point being, we would have MORE of all these things in Freedom.
@mikeshanklin Hey Mike I'm a fan of your PFP page on facebook and was wondering, being only 15 and unable to vote in the next elections, what someone like me could do just to get involved in all of this.
@mikeshanklin Yes Because entrepreneurs are extremely cheap and they move everything themselves right? No Wrong they go to COMPANIES that pay it's workers to help move everything so other people can have them...And do those workers work for free absolutely not. And you say you are not the government, Um actually you should look up the meaning of government and see what it says also who do you think funds the government. THE CITIZENS OH MY GOD IS IT POSSIBLE no matter what you always pay taxes
@Adept2k11 Because you know taxes isn't part of the government...you don't have to support the people in the government but you can't just go to a complete mental state where it doesn't exist, Do i think t he government should be as intrusive as it is now HELL NO do I think there should be a government yes, countries as advanced as we are need a government to deal with foreign relations and use the trade market to help the citizens of the States.
I'll agree with about 50% of what you say, you are a very educated individual, but you talk of patriotism like it's a collective among humans. You should be inclined to be proud of who you are.. there's no such thing as "the system" that's just life.. In a perfect world we wouldnt be watching this video, but there's corruption and farce political antics everywhere you look.. advocation of people to not have a voice in their government is asinine, we need to overcome not bow down.
@Nightsblood192 Voting is bending over, its the sacrifice of yourself to the collective. Not voting for political mythology is the greatest way you can stand up for yourself. Change will not come through the political process, not towards real freedom. All those lives lost in war?!? All of them for more harm than good. It's all bullshit.... the entire system. It has nothing but the "legal" right to aggressive violence on peaceful people who simply disagree. Statism is against virtue ethics.
"Voting is bending over, its the sacrifice of yourself to the collective. Not voting for political mythology is the greatest way you can stand up for yourself"
I have to disagree with you there mike. Not voting is actually a vote, it's a vote for more of the same. I know this because the state controlled media (which supports the status quo) in Scotland actively encourages it.
If nobody voted, then the last government would just assume office until people did vote.
I say that the idea that giving a small group of people the moral duty and authority to commit acts of theft, abduction (and indirectly rape) and murder will somehow create a better society is a pie in the sky utopian fantasy! History proves THAT time and time again. Anarchism is simply the rational conclusion from a consistent application of the non-aggression principle.
Dont be convinced of anything, search & dig & never be satisfied by one mans interpretation, as everyones perception level at any given time can be clouded or misdirected. Dont just protest, stand against these officers that attempt to arrest the innocent, make a stand & form a citizens arrest against these officials.. You cant protest & just become idle while someone is being violated. Yet the protesters just chant in disaggreance, it does nothing. 10 officers controlling the MASSES.
We arent asking anyone to save the world, we arent asking you to go bomb 3rd world countries, infact we demand that you remove yourself from what is simply funding terrorism. We just want you to hold yourself accountable for your personal current surroundings. If someone is being exploited in front of your eyes, make a stand. Dont allow it to happen to ppl standing next to you, dont fight for someone elses ideals from what you heard from word of mouth, stand for what you know for sure.
I'm not sure how I feel about this one. Some of it probably terminology. For instance 'nationality'; some people use it to describe their ethnicity, some use it to designate their citizenship. Because of my appearance people will ask me my nationality and I'll say 'American', then they ask 'what 'race' are you?' I'll tell them I'm a Texan, my ethnicity. Confusion reigns. The same with 'state' and 'government'. People assign different meanings to the terms. It's a mess.
This is a BIG part of the mentality, we hear ppl talking about being ashamed or proud to be a citizen, or that another mans actions is an embarrassement to us all. Its absolutely madness to take responsibility as a whole when most of what we are subjected to we were born into. Then you have the ppl that wont take accountability for their society & as we say its not our problem, our actions/inactions directly effect the outcome as it has an immediate effect to our surroundings as a whole.
Anarchy is idealic, but impossible to maintain. Even if there was no government right now...there is always going to be that group of people who wants to change it. I mean look at all these new underground (drug fueled) movements terrorizing innocent people now. Yes, there will always be that person that will take control somehow, UNLESS humanity has their minds retooled and cleansed of all individual thinking. Plain and Simple it's all flawed, the best bet is to choose the lesser of evils.
I like almost all of your videos but this video seems evidence of lack of understaning of representative government and the history of the founding of the USA. I do believe the USA was derailed some decades ago and has been crashing worse and worse ever since though.
And yes ...Bin Laden is dead. Numero Uno question of course is, where was Pakistan or what divisions and cells of Pakistan are our enemies? Shamefully...we should never have been there in the 1st place, as in Iraq, Afghanistan unless in 'SPEC OPS'. Period. Bring the troops home. If world community can't see to 'split the bill as well as troops'.. we have a Drug War on the border that needs addressing. Nohing to do w/illegal crossing that are down 40%. Legalize MJ these slimes go byes byes!
Everyone in this country is responsible for every MURDER AND RAPE in foreign lands . If you want to lie to yourself to sleep well thats fine with me. The taxes you generate feed the war. The "peaceful" protest that have never ever worked is nothing short of giving up. If this is by the people and for the people and 90% of the people dont want war or bailouts and they do it anyways THEN IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE FIERCE MILITANT ACTION AGAINST OUR GOVERNMENT as stated by our forefathers.
I respect you as an individual.but you can find more similarities in "the matrix" that can be applied to "real" life.. The red/blue pill or ignorance is bliss/knowledge is power.. The tax generating battery where paper money is debt paid with debt = perpetual slavery. You can "plug" into the internet and learn just about anything. There are groups of people out there, who can. when together, change the vibration of the earth. We have more power then we are told.Thoughts change futures.
@mikeshanklin What do you think of Ron Paul? I think he's the closest thing we have to ending at least a portion of tyranny here in the U.S.. I think he could start the transition to the anarchism you are speaking of.
No, not really. I wouldn't say they're part of the government either. They merely want to protect it since they view it as something that we need, and some people even think it's good. I disagree with them, but that's their opinion, and simply holding that opinion doesn't make one a part of the government.
It is the very reasons capitalists hate Unions while socialists and anarchists have always loved Unions. The strength in numbers aspect I mentioned in the previous post. What we have in the USA, by the way, is essentially State Capitalism, which is another term for both Fascism and Statism. You should add that information to your video so as to be more historically, and factually, accurate on the use of the term "Statism." It's not some mystery boogyman called government.
To me, Statism also refers to the "States Rights" statists who want to break you further down into an individual. It is far easier to control an individual than it is to control a group. Marx knew that and he thought it should be societies greatest strength against oppression. If you have 10 men trying to coerce 1 man, they will get their way every time. But for 10 men to try to coerce a group of say, 200 men, that won't work and they know it. So they push for you to become individuals.
I like your channel and I like this video. I even agree with a lot of it. However, there is something that is questionable. The labeling of the government as the boogyman and the loose use of the word Statism. Even under Anarchy, there is government. There has to be in order for any society at all to function. Even tribes had their councils, remember? And in many tribes, particularly those of my ancestral home of Ireland, many chieftains were beholden to the councils who held the real power.
Americans may say “take it easy” but no more. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the government will bring to our ears the sound of arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that Americans want? Magic fairy land and pixie dust? Is your cushy life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Hell NO! I don’t know how others will react; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
Hi, Mike. Thanks for the video. I think there is another thing besides government that people use to make themselves powerful. That is the all mighty dollar. How would you keep the power of money in check if people started using it to manipulate others, just as they do with our government? Secondly, where do you draw the line between a leader and a ruler, and how would you decide this given that not everyone will be in agreement over various issues?
Bill Hicks hit the nail on the head, "Is life real, or is it a ride?", Live your life like a ride, and you will see just how stupid people are who think life is serious. Everyone can step out the game straight away by just understanding inwardly that "YOU" decide your future. I would rather be in prison with an opened mind, than living like other sheeple, but that's just me because it's "My life, and not theres".
Mike, this is an awesome message my friend! POWERFUL! I am going to add this to my playlist. You are truly beyond your years. May God continue to guide and protect you so that you may wake up many more! Blessings!
I would love to see the eradication of the nation-state. Wars don't happen between people, they happen between governments, perpetuated by disciples of the state.
while the upper middle classes dont even know what to do with thier money,or some spend it on spreading war or supporting wars "wars wearing a human rights badge" , my point is how long can people indure ? how long can they remain as slaves and assets instead of exploring thier full potential with freethinking mind ?
@sphinxofthenewage I don't know if I would ask that question. I may even argue that once mankind reaches such a state of equilibrium and liberty, they would cease to relevant to humanity... maintaining a only a passing resemblance to us, as we do to Habilis ... Maybe not Physiologically, but my point should be obvious enough.
government / corperate money farms..we are the assets imprisoned involentarily to serve and obey...i mean some might argue and say we are going to the extremes with our statements but allow me to share with those the proof that we are assets. 25 of my friends 17 of my relatives 49 of my work partners (these are the people that shared with me some info related to the topic) almost all of them are in dept one way or another....why must the lower / middle class people indure the pressures of life
this system is entering a big but slow paced collapse i beleive, due to the recent events and also due to the increasing people awarness of its existance and intentions / goals. But the question that i always ask myself ....is how much longer or how much more pressure can people indure to finally snap and realize that they are nothing more than assets ? i mean there is a limit of breaking point somewhere ....but when will people reach that ? many are induring unbeleivable pressures due to goverm
well mike in modern america i have to agree with you in theory only. see we the people are supposed to be the government unfortunetly with this main stream media propaganda machine we have become at best neutral ie politically correct and have started down a slippery slope to collectivisim. this is bad, the ideas that you put forth are not new, in fact they are for the most part what the founders invisioned for our governement. "if men were angles no government would be nesseicary." J. Madison
You're a dumb asshole. You recieve you're agreed individuality from the government. It's not the other way around. Think about owning money you can not own money if you don't have an account with the government it's simple.
I don't receive individuality from organized violence. What are you talking about?!? Money is everything, you are speaking of paper currency, which governments are not needed for, and in fact, always turn into fiat currency. You seriously have a LOT of research to start on....
You can't defend your position with that "The government needs money". The truth is: we are in an anarchy commune until you can accept that you will be blinded by the vicious lies that the government tells. The government is not dependent on money. The government makes money literally. A bank where money comes from is the bank between the "high seas" and the "land". Current of the shore. Currency. Congress a coming together of a group of apes, congress I could go on and on.
Great vid. Some say the reason government assumes so much control over the people it alleges to serve is because individuals sign a contract making them an employee/agent of a corporation acting as de-facto government. If you have signed such a contract they expect you to be a good employee & follow company policy / statues aka "laws" Otherwise they will send their Police[y] enforcers after you. This would make you very much a part of the government. Rob Menard explains this well in his videos.
Thanks Mike! It would seem best to at least see where "we" are. The right choices from there would be not based on fear. People who cannot look past this society, past money, then they live in fear and will always believe what fits in their narrow view point. Anything outside of it is easily scoffed at, all the while, them not knowing they are scoffing because they blindly fear what they do not know. The blind ones get so mad, so upset, how backwards... they haven't seen sh*t yet
More propaganda. Why do I click these links? You want the truth? Here's how America was supposed to work. Government enforces law and has LEADERSHIP of the military. In order to maintain freedom, we have democracy, freedom of protest and the right to bear arms. These right are to be liberally maintained, but they have been sacrificed for peace of mind. Income tax was also initially illegal. Research our wars and national history, maybe then your propaganda will be effective at all.
@MrNeromes "Here's how America was supposed to work. Government enforces law and has LEADERSHIP of the military. In order to maintain freedom, we have democracy,"
= I thought America was supposed to be a Republic?
Agree about national sent, go dig it out of the swiss bank accounts. The nations are owned by rich families & guess what, you as a citizen is also owned by these people. They dictate to you & teach your children that slavery is freedom & being terrorized is justice. Visit the website mayabell (.com there is a video explaining it very well. You are a subject of those ruling over you with deception & tyranny. Jezebel was the queen from tyre that married ehab & tyranny/terror was invented by them.
As soon as one realizes the elections are frauds then the actions and resultant debts of those fraudulently elected puppets (of the globalists behind them) becomes invalid.
@Libertyrider both parties are owned & puppets of the criminals behind the scenes. They keep stealing, killing & looting our country, health & freedoms.
Thanks for going out of your way to state the obvious, thats not sarcastic....however people use "we" to take empathic responsibility avoiding blame...until they can't anymore. Instability is bad except as manure. Peaceful conscious authentic pressure is far more powerful and our best beginning at this peaceful transition is ron paul and ralph nader excavating the entire government with new blood, not by vote, but by flat out public demand. Obedience to the constitution will be reinvented.
hmm... what you seem to advocate is more in line with city states or even a small family units (a tribe). i see you didn't get my analogy about Gov. is a tool for the people. i see Gov. as just a group of elected individuals select among the people to serve its people for a limited amount of time and both citizen and Gov. follow established law which is agreed is suitable to keep order and liberty. but i never knew Gov. was alive to do evil like war, i though it need people to such actions.
but wait are you not perpetuating a new system that might the potential of becoming corrupt. you say to walk away from violent system but thing is violent happen regardless of a system or not. its like saying your a non-conformist but in fact you are conforming in a growing group who have non-conformed in the past and forming groups so others can join like your group. you may say we don't need a system anymore but your advocating one. anarchy is not the way and can lead to tyranny.
You have it backwards. Everything can lead to tyranny....anarchy is the lack of tyranny. You are saying we need tyranny to not have tyranny?!?
"If men are good, you don't need a government. If men are evil or ambivalent, you don't dare have one." ~Robert LeFevre
and no, the "system" I strive for has no central planning, no monarch or president or king.... in fact, this system has no rulers, but 6 1/2 billion leaders. That is, personal responsibility and voluntaryism. Real Freedom
@mikeshanklin i got it backwards . hm... perhaps your right. but duh anarchy is a lack of tyranny but hey people will always look for a leader to lead that is just human nature especially if evil is not checked. you can't have your cake and eat it too. but i'm glad i got you to admit to how your wrong about systems even if your system has no ruler and other have some. but maybe i'm just an idealist who wants his cake and eat it too. 6 1/2 billion leaders, you know what happen with too many cook.
Leaders are great! Rulers aren't. No government is what keeps evil at bay. No large scale war, no victimless crimes, no theft through taxation (all security could be funded by voluntaryism, which means the people will get the level security they want, versus what the inefficient government monopoly mandates to them. Sorry, I don't believe in the lie that government protects property rights when it is the greatest infringer. Yes, you do want your cake and eat it too... statism lies.
@mikeshanklin This is the part where I sound like I contradict myself. Please do not mistake this as contradiction. Majority of countries have been founded on pushing aside inhabbitance and slavery. Do i agree with that action? Of course not. I do agree with the opening idea for America itself, but how it was founded I do not. Absolute Anarchy is a hole being dug for internal violence in humanity itself. Common sense marked as rules or even rules of your choice religion MAY keep things in check.
@mikeshanklin , given that my concept is human nature the likelyness of absolute anarchy being successful is no doubt next to slim.
Your ideas are great though. If only it was a perfect world right?
Keep spreading your ideas, more people need to think in terms of less government, limited government, or for people who are on your brain wave, down the road of anarchy.
@justroy06 Sorry, No. My previous statments in addition to this contain about all the time I have for you in my entire life. That said... Have a great life!
@nazaxprime i guess i don't desire the satisfaction. i'm not on your level, yet. lol i guess i peg you as some self-deluded arrogant self-righteous well meaning guy. its unfortunate that all the time you have, i guess you have a choir to preach to and stop debates before it starts. well have an even greater life then i would have, i'm just so behind. well God bless and farewell.
@justroy06, There are always leaders in a society but they don't necessarily need to be governmental leaders. In a society there are always leaders of industry, intellect, and morality. One can even be leader by setting the example for others to follow to lead a virtuous life. A true leader does not lead by command or coercion but by example.
@justroy06 That presumes that everyone is trying to be a leader (the cook in your analogy), and that everyone would want a compulsory leader in their lives. I wouldn't but I would choose to follow my mom's advice, or specific peoples advice, I would even follow them in situations that required it (like if they were the chef and I was a mere sauce cooker) but that is a consensual arrangement, no force, just food and those who want it. Freedom allows for specialization more than top down leaders
Anarchy is another Utopian dream. It cannot work. Anarchy is based on all people being naturally good. If I leave my home should I expect it to still be mine when I return if there is no police or laws to keep it mine? Would it be my right to kill anyone who enters my home when I am gone even though there are no laws against walking in to an empty building and taking it for your own? Now I understand that can happen now but at least I would have a way of getting my stuff back.
@mikeshanklin The WISE understand, LIMITED Gov't is REQUIRED to protect EACH person's LIFE, LIBERTY & Freedom to PERSUE HAPPINESS from the Mobocracy, Monopoly (gov't or corporate) & the Bully!
Juvenile Anarchists/Socialists ignore history & the 7 deadly sins (flaws) in human nature. Anarchy always turns into Oligarchy when the people cry out for a "strong leader" (Mao, Hitler, Stalin) and his “friends” to "restore order" to protect them (the weak individual) from the MOB, MONOPOLY & BULLY.
@yakyakyak69 I'm a minarchist and so agree with what it is that you are saying. The reason why I do not consider myself a full-fledged anarchist is because I can not imagine completely voluntary solutions to all societal problems. With that said, I do not feel I have the right to impose any sort of government or rules on anybody else, provided that they aren't harming me. Thus, I believe Constitutionalists, minarchists, and anarchists can coexist quite peacefully. Do you agree?
Constitutionalists ARE minarchists and use a Constitution to grant power TO gov't to protect individual liberty for ALL.
Aanarchists are ignorant, immature children who don't care that history has proven time and time again that ZERO gov't always leads to Authoritarianism by those with the might who are willing to enforce their wills upon others in the name of "security".
Anarchists are MORE dangerous than Statists, Anarchy leads to a MORE powerful, MORE tyrannical gov't.
@yakyakyak69 But what if they don't wish to participate in our minarchism? We don't have the right to force our beliefs on them, do you not agree? Besides, if given the chance, they might come up with something that works, they might not. If their system works better than ours, I'll join them, and vice versa. I'd like all systems to be able to compete in a nonviolent manner. I'm not sure if this attitude classifies as minarchist or anarchist.... What do you think?
@chuska8383 I agree that each individual does not have the right to force their beliefs on others, HOWEVER, we as a society must have rules. We agree that murder, rape, theft etc are bad. We agree that individual liberty is good, right?
WHO will protect the individual liberty of the weak? Who will enforce property rights or right of contract?
Have you ever read "Lord of the flies"? Anarchy is OK when you're the strongest BUT humans are NOT insects! We are NOT a "collective"!
@yakyakyak69 I've read Lord of the Flies, I agree that society must have rules, and so the crimes you mentioned (taking life, taking liberty, taking personal property including another's body) allow force to be used in self defense. I am disgusted by collectivism of all stripes, especially when involuntary.
I agree individual liberty should be held paramount. If we are to have people protect the liberties of the weak, we must have them be funded on a strictly voluntary basis, yes?
@chuska8383 Yes, self defense requires the ABILITY to defend one's self. What about those who are unable to defend themselves? As humans, should we just let them suffer? What about bullies (including statists) who use violence or threats of violence to force their will upon others? Should this be allowed?
Isn't Anarchy actually a form of collectivism when the people form into groups to force their will upon other, less powerful groups or individuals?
@yakyakyak69 YAY FOR INTELLIGENCE!!! :D You made my day yakyak...which means I probably should be doing more exciting things :P. I was an anarchist once, but then I started wondering at the basic level. Why do governments form in the first place, whats to stop them from forming again, or some other power structure? The response I typically got from one "famed" anarchist Stefan Molyneux was "the free market will find the answer!". And then I realized these people are just blindly idealistic... :(
@mikeshanklin Another pipe dream and why is that. Well in my life from service to other thing I can name a long list that the moment t your system goes live. They will murder you rape your wife and children and live in your house till they get board and do it again. Anarchy proven by history does one thing. Open the door for a iron fist king. Period end of story. natural law .....nature hates a vacuum................
@justroy06 we need three things to sort out the world, 1. a true democracy-we don't get a say an anything on the national level-democracy doesn't really exist at the moment 2. to be able to call a vote of no confidence in government and kick them out at a moments notice and form a new government. 3. an economy that isn't based on debt-something like lincolns greenback-while money is still created at a debt-we well always have a national debt-it's inherent-good video Mike!
@richrica have you ever read the the U.S. Deceleration of Independence? the founding fathers felt government was created by the people and for this reason it was the responsibility of the people to be active in and not allow anyone to corrupt it. but if it did they had a right, a duty to alter or to abolish that said government who has become destructive of our liberty and institute new ones. i wanted to call his hypocrisy of doing away with a the system altogether but intern creating his own.
you support the government by doing nothing and being indifferent and just walking away but hey i'm guilty of it to, so who am i. the problem is the system. LMAO the system, government or whatever is a tool like a hammer, no better yet a gun. who holds it can institute whatever system it wants. but America was build to be ruled by law not of men, like a monarchy, etc. but we stood back and government went unchecked and the corrupt took over now the system is to blame. you just walked away.
No, no, I walked away from perpetuating a violent system, I never walked away from educating. You aren't suppose to walk away from civilization, just the coercive sector, as we need to educate people that we don't need a system anymore. That is the end goal I am striving towards, not some short-sighted election that won't do anything to better the long-run integrity of society through the nonaggression axiom.
@mikeshanklin I agree with some portions however human nature is your wall to climb. Anarchy is with out government. To expect that all humans be responsible is like expecting a murderer not to kill you. The idea is great but rules need to be there. An absolute ruler is not a good ruler. A leader that leads for the right reasons can keep things in the boundry. If America stuck to the roots it was built on, the issues of today wouldnt be anywhere close to the issues we have now.
our government is a working system. The biggest enemy I have seen is the bitch next door who is just doing things for no reason. It gives women a bad name. People’s home life is a mess. We have yet to learn that above all tolerance is that middle ground where we can meet and settle our sometimes overreacting and unsettled emotions. We have not learned a sense of sharing and compassion among each other. The USA government is doing fine.
More profoundly, I love that you're a dipshit who may be right most of the time. Some of my friends are dipshits like you, so please excuse me if I call you fucking idiot.
I call my closest friends idiots too, and when they're not kicking the living crap out of me, they're hailing me as a genius.
the new york mafia benefits Little Italy more than the FED GOV does to the rest of the nation. Better paying jobs, fewer hours, why would you want to work in a cubicle for some corporate asshole when you can deal drugs and make millions of quick dollars?
I'm just wondering why anarcho-capitalists focus and obsess about government so much. Most anarchists focus their energy on developing (either intellectually, or via anarchist communities) the type of society they would like to see arise from a lack of government. Like other libertarians, anarcho-capitalists focus too much on government and too little on social matters.
Great Video. If you are anti-anything that the government has taught us is "patriotic," then you are automatically "un-American"
If three percent of the US population would "Opt-Out" of government we could shut it down. Think about it, if three percent refused to pay taxes, or three percent went to the white house and smoked weed, or refused to acknowledge victimless crimes in general we could overflow the system to the point that it would have to change in favor of liberty.
It all seems so simple to me now. When you break the spell of nationalism and patriotism, the truth becomes so crystal clear that you wonder how the spell could still be afflicting someone. Thanks for helping to wake people up.
I wish I could applaud through time and space, but I'm doing it now, and I will every time I see this video again. God...how nice it is to hear I'm not the only person who sees things a certain way. Not a majority. I don't even have to be a LARGE -minority-. But it's nice knowing I'm not utterly alone. For this if nothing else, here's to the internet.
For a time I thought I was "born into the state". No. I realized it was /assumed/.
They saw me as theirs....-before-...I was even born.
Wow, Im impressed. Wish more Americans would think like you. It would do the rest of the world a whole lot of good if the american public did something about their government.
@kylethebomber "Frankly, the only people who benefit from a return are people who own gold assests."
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You must have a very limited understanding of economics. The point being (for me and liberty minded people) is elimination of the Fiat system means an elimination of ever expanding and uncontrolled growth of state powers. Gold Standards will foster individual liberty and returns the power back to the people. We will no longer be the slave but the masters of our own society.
@kylethebomber "Frankly, the only people who benefit from a return are people who own gold assests."
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You must have a very limited understanding of economics. The point being (for me and liberty minded people) is elimination of the Fiat system means an elimination of ever expanding and uncontrolled growth of state powers. Gold Standards will foster individual liberty and returns the power back to the people. We will no longer be the slave but the masters of our own society.
I can understand where you're coming from, and I agree that collectivism is not the answer, but even if a state is not present, people will still need something common by which they can decide their disputes and govern their activities in relation to each other (especially to those who have different opinions). I think there will always need to be some sort of judicial system but the other two branches don't seem to be necessary, and being a judge could just be a part time job.
@baryonyx550 not so. A judge can rule on a decision but you will need an entity to enforce it . That will take a group of people. depending on the forces aligned against that decision that group will either need to be small or large and be around for in some cases a long while to see the decision through.
That takes money, which in turn will take organisation, which in turn will need a government (which will also need to be in place to give the judge the authority in the first place).
@Telcontar1962 I think the people are capable of organizing without a central authority telling them to do so. However, I agree that it would take a goverment to enforce the court decision, however, I draw a distinction between government and the state. To me, a state is a solid fixed entity which monopolizes a geographic area with regards to government , while I would define government simply as a system by which people resolve disputes and protect the rights of themselves and their community
(cont): also about the judge having an authority, what I had in mind when I said a judicial system was individuals who let knew the common law (which can come about naturally) and let others know that they could be called upon to act as a third party in dispute resolution and there wouldn't be any barrier to entry. Instead of authority, the judges would have reputation based on their standing in the community, their intelligence, and their past experience as a judge.
If every single American ponied up 40 grand, we could pay that debt off. Calling the national debt "unpayable" is what the media has led you to believe, but that national debt can be payed off, the wealth is there, the problem is that the top 10% of this country controls 80% of that wealth. You're fighting the wrong fight. Trying to stop "government" is unproductive, we need it to do public service which everyone relies on. The REAL threats are the politicians, the rich, and the media. Not gov.
@CommandodudeRespectfully disagree. First the dept is a direct result of our monetary system not being backed up by gold or silver. The "dollar that we spend every day is not money. (according to the Constitution) It's a promise to pay. The Federal reserve, a private bank, loans those dollars AT INTEREST! So they give us "notes" and then tack on interest to the loan but since they are the only ones with the money we go back to them for more "notes" and of course more interest is levied.
@joeysstashspot Backing our money with gold or silver would be disastrous, a return to the gold standard would wreck the economy. I don't like the Fed but I'm certainly not in favor of using such obsolete economic standard.
@CommandoDude You're going to have to provide a more substantive rebuttal of the gold standard if you expect anyone to be convinced. Simply calling it "obsolete" is meaningless. Was the gold standard obsolete when the government issued continental dollars during the revolution? How about 18th century France? The Wiemar Republic?
The US experienced the largest economic gains in it's history under the gold standard. An "elastic currency," as they call it, is destructive.
@kylethebomber Yet there is not even enough gold in the world to equal the value of currency in circulation. Deflation would become significantly hard to control. Not to mention monetary policy would be entirely controlled by gold production, while values fluctuate due to short term instability.
Then gold's applicable uses become narrower.
Frankly, the only people who benefit from a return are people who own gold assests.
@CommandoDude Yes, monetary policy would be controlled by market forces instead of political forces. That is a good thing! The fed has been an unmitigated failure by any standard, we had a very sound monetary policy before the fed took over and have had a deteriorating currency ever since.
Anarchy = Self government. You have posted here and elsewhere about tyrants coming out of anarchy but all your examples take place in very primitive societies. I disagree with the question. I seek simply to end the use of force/violence. If gov't services are so valuable why aren't they offered voluntarily? Cannot these same services be offered voluntarily in the free market? Does the FM deliver better services/products than the gov't? Stef has some great info on DRO's etc.
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I also brought up the idiocy of the drug war and he said that was my fault and the businessmen who lobbied the government BUT NOT THE GOVERNMENT ENFORCING THE LAW. Typical socialist, gov can do no wrong. I responded with "okay so 80 years before I was born some businessmen who are long since dead lobbied the government and the result is my fault, and the long dead businessmen's fault but not the government's? He said the law doesn't seem to be stopping you, people never admit their wrong.
Hashishin13 2 months ago
Ironic that I found this video. Just yesterday I was in an argument with a guy claiming the exact opposite of this. He was literally telling me "you are the government." "they ARE you". So I said how can they be me? Its a physical impossibility that someone else can BE me. His argument was that my being able to argue with people and having a 1/300,000,000 say in who gets elected makes me responsible for government, pretty laughable as even if the guy I want gets elected he will do what he wants.
Hashishin13 2 months ago
You can't have peace without JUSTICE...
As for violence....in the words of Norman Finkelstein:
It's better to die on your feet than slave on your knees.
MollyTTree 2 months ago
@MollyTTree You can't have peace without voluntaryism, and voluntaryism seeks nonaggression principle justice.
As for violence.... use it for self-defense. Just don't use AGGRESSIVE violence on peaceful people...
It's not like we're pacifists... you can defend yourself under the nonaggression principle.
mikeshanklin 2 months ago
@mikeshanklin That's what I just said but in the words I chose.
How about I clarify?
When you die on your feet (analogy) you are basically fighting aggressive injustices and slavery tactics.
Doesn't mean there is always death but some die depending. That is what we call SELF-DEFENSE.
My comment does not say to use aggressive violence on peaceful people, nor does it intend any such meaning or intention.
MollyTTree 2 months ago
sometimes you cant walk away and sometimes its nessecary to stand your ground peace is an illusion behind violence you cant have peace without violence
teamflights 3 months ago
@teamflights Walking away from statism IS standing your ground!
mikeshanklin 2 months ago
@teamflights Saying there is no peace without violence is like saying you can't have an orgasm without knowing pain.
jeffsandychelsea 3 weeks ago
man you are brilliant i been trying to say this to so many people for so long and you put it perfectly
whitestar111 3 months ago
Hey mike wat do u think about the polycentric system in the common wealth of iceland back in the medevil times
sassmaster8 5 months ago
How do you plan on accomplishing your walking away?
wordword31 5 months ago
@wordword31 By educating individuals out of myths/statism... it will take thousands of years most likely and will not occur in my lifetime, but by setting the example and not participating in statism slavery, I believe we can educate more people out of the false belief that statism is ethical and efficient, and expose it as the indentured system that it truly is.
mikeshanklin 5 months ago 6
@mikeshanklin I find the approach honorable, but ineffective as these movements do not bear fruit until someone is killed for the cause. NO one cares about arrests no matter how bad it looks and they get the wrong idea about your approach. The 1 man movement is well-documented and none of them made headway without approaching real power with your earnest concerns in a legal fashion (meaning with lawyers backing your claims.) Keep up the good work and I hope you WIN!
wordword31 5 months ago
@mikeshanklin 7 billion lifetimes are here now, with education individuals will create ethical and efficient systems. Direct, or participatory democracy on local & global levels will enable the people power to truly thrive. Free internet for all. If we can youtube comment, we can discuss the issues online. If we can bank online, we can vote online. Enable ALL individual voices through ongoing transparent voting on important issues, thats a start. Facebook and Youtube twitetc are amazing tools!
JonathanSeagullUtube 3 months ago
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I was born into a system I had no say in. I have grown up in a system I had no say in. Now that I am an adult, I still have no say in the system despite the illusion that I can vote and have a "say". ...its all lies... ...we are slaves, kept in little boxes and divided by false lines on a map...
I no longer want to comply.
OpterJames 6 months ago
I agree with this video because the entire population in this country never signed, and/or consented to the constitution, hence the social contract theory is debunked. To all those that blindly defend government, do you not see the dead bodies?
ed2point0 6 months ago 5
@ed2point0 Great comment!
mikeshanklin 6 months ago
Oh yeah, we arent bombing innocent people. i said WE. my two tours, I didn't, nor did anyone else, bomb innocent women and children.
I hear you throw that around a lot in your videos. "Killing women and children" this and that. Ever stop to think how many Afghans kill women and children for showing a little ankle? i'm not agreeing with the war, but i sure as hell don't agree with the stuff you say.
MrDerby2u 6 months ago
@MrDerby2u
"my two tours, I didn't, nor did anyone else, bomb innocent women and children."
You have got to be joking right?!? There have been over 500,000 children deaths in the last 10 years alone... innocent women added... I don't even want to think of the number... You remind me of Hitler's troops who denied all the bad till the end. So, now that you know the FACTS, that children and women murdered at racist whim overseas... what do you have to say about my FACTS?!? These are FACTS...
mikeshanklin 6 months ago
@mikeshanklin When did you deploy? oh, never? hmm, i see...
And, your getting your facts from where? Oh, wikipedia? hmm, okay...
MrDerby2u 6 months ago
@MrDerby2u
"When did you deploy?" I do not contribute to slavery. All militaries/socialism are funded through taxation theft. I am not a criminal. I do not steal from peaceful people, I will never join the government mafia.
"And, your getting your facts from where?" Dude, where the hell have you been? We killed 368 civilians in May alone... where the hell have you been?!? Oh, that's right, supporting the murder...
mikeshanklin 6 months ago
@MrDerby2u Oh, and just to let you know, I am against Sharia law also... I am against all religions as they are just a different form of brainwashing. I believe that people have the right to do whatever they want, as long as they don't infringe on others. That means they should have the right not to have taxation theft forced on them. I stand for REAL Freedom... maybe you should watch my video on 9/11 terrorism...
mikeshanklin 6 months ago
@mikeshanklin im not going to contribute to you or your videos.
you call me a Nazi and you want me to subscribe to you?
i remind you of Hitler's troops, do i?
here's the difference: I don't throw around 'innocent Women and children" to prove my point about jews taking away their food and money... wait, that sounds a lot like YOUR speeches... if you switch 'jews' with 'government', its exactly the same... hmm, maybe u need to take a step back, mein fuhrer.
MrDerby2u 6 months ago
@MrDerby2u and I never called you a Nazi... so quit putting words in people's mouths. I said you remind me of people who were brainwashed by their country into believing what they were doing was moral and ethical.... it's all total bullshit.
"I don't throw around 'innocent Women and children" to prove my point "
You really should start... educating people on reality is important.
mikeshanklin 6 months ago
@MrDerby2u Jews taking away their food and money?!? What are you talking about?!? I am against statism, not pro-terrorism. In fact, the entire reason I am anti-statist is because it IS TERRORISM. YOU are the terrorist. If someone doesn't pay your extortion/taxation... you will have your gang tackle and imprison them. That is NOT Freedom, that is a form of terrorism.... YOU are the terrorist because you are a part of government.
mikeshanklin 6 months ago
about 35% of the people vote. is it out of this 'im not going to get boned by the man', 'big brother is just holding us all down' kind of mentality? it's a collective 'my one vote won't do anything'. Imagine if we ALL actually went out and voted. what kinda government would we have now?
we are, very much, the government. 65% of people don't elect who is in office, because they don't care. not doing anything about it = not caring.
if you don't vote, you don't care, so don't complain
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Great video, thank you.
82816a1 7 months ago
Looks like the Asia will be buying up all the commodities in sight coal, oil, copper, fertizliers, soybeans. Get ready for $1000 a month electric bills& grocery bills.
borisbmx 7 months ago
Without government roads people would litterally be trapped in their homes.
diurdi 7 months ago
I am a Resource Based Economist. There is a way to break away from all the world shananagins. Watch Zeitgeist Addendum. Get you act together and become a RBE.
MercComet73 8 months ago
@MercComet73 Why do you need to educate me about Zeitgeist Addendum? Shouldn't you spend that time building the robots? Why can't we at least support a world of voluntaryism until the robots (created by humans with human calculations) control production? Why is my act not together in your opinion? What are your thoughts on the nonaggression principle?!?
mikeshanklin 7 months ago 8
@mikeshanklin thanks for making this video and hope to see of you on yt.
TheLovesoul1 7 months ago
@mikeshanklin support a world of voluntarism *two thumbs up*. I hope the enslaved market system crashes into forced volunteerism...perhaps my thoughts are too aggressive? LOL
JonathanSeagullUtube 3 months ago
I like this insiteful input, thanks for sharing
GrimSoul66 8 months ago
His opening statement wasn't bad but then it went into a utopian concept of how we can be individuals and we needs to be and how we aren't apart of the government, That is complete crap because without government there wouldn't be any mainstream things like world news and designer waters and things that majority of Americans take for granted...people need to honestly wake up and look into where things come from like the outlet you plug your computer into isn't some magical energy producing box.
Adept2k11 8 months ago
@Adept2k11 Yeah, we would have no roads and no air and no houses and no computers and no food and no..... LMFAO, GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK! You are really crazy and out there man... as if institutionalized violence is what makes us productive... that is complete lunacy. Almost everything we have has come from entrepreneurs and people working in a market (a market that happens to be extremely enslaved), but a market nonetheless. Point being, we would have MORE of all these things in Freedom.
mikeshanklin 8 months ago 10
@mikeshanklin Hey Mike I'm a fan of your PFP page on facebook and was wondering, being only 15 and unable to vote in the next elections, what someone like me could do just to get involved in all of this.
Thanks Mike!
oSPICEo 8 months ago
@mikeshanklin I think he was joking, Mike. Usually statists list roads clean foods and stable buildings, not bottled water and news.
theCrimsonBeard1 8 months ago
@mikeshanklin Yes Because entrepreneurs are extremely cheap and they move everything themselves right? No Wrong they go to COMPANIES that pay it's workers to help move everything so other people can have them...And do those workers work for free absolutely not. And you say you are not the government, Um actually you should look up the meaning of government and see what it says also who do you think funds the government. THE CITIZENS OH MY GOD IS IT POSSIBLE no matter what you always pay taxes
Adept2k11 8 months ago
@Adept2k11 Because you know taxes isn't part of the government...you don't have to support the people in the government but you can't just go to a complete mental state where it doesn't exist, Do i think t he government should be as intrusive as it is now HELL NO do I think there should be a government yes, countries as advanced as we are need a government to deal with foreign relations and use the trade market to help the citizens of the States.
Adept2k11 8 months ago
@mikeshanklin
MercComet73 8 months ago
I'll agree with about 50% of what you say, you are a very educated individual, but you talk of patriotism like it's a collective among humans. You should be inclined to be proud of who you are.. there's no such thing as "the system" that's just life.. In a perfect world we wouldnt be watching this video, but there's corruption and farce political antics everywhere you look.. advocation of people to not have a voice in their government is asinine, we need to overcome not bow down.
Nightsblood192 8 months ago
@Nightsblood192 Voting is bending over, its the sacrifice of yourself to the collective. Not voting for political mythology is the greatest way you can stand up for yourself. Change will not come through the political process, not towards real freedom. All those lives lost in war?!? All of them for more harm than good. It's all bullshit.... the entire system. It has nothing but the "legal" right to aggressive violence on peaceful people who simply disagree. Statism is against virtue ethics.
mikeshanklin 8 months ago 2
@mikeshanklin
"Voting is bending over, its the sacrifice of yourself to the collective. Not voting for political mythology is the greatest way you can stand up for yourself"
I have to disagree with you there mike. Not voting is actually a vote, it's a vote for more of the same. I know this because the state controlled media (which supports the status quo) in Scotland actively encourages it.
If nobody voted, then the last government would just assume office until people did vote.
1scot4scotland 8 months ago
I say that the idea that giving a small group of people the moral duty and authority to commit acts of theft, abduction (and indirectly rape) and murder will somehow create a better society is a pie in the sky utopian fantasy! History proves THAT time and time again. Anarchism is simply the rational conclusion from a consistent application of the non-aggression principle.
viehe69 8 months ago
No, sir, I will not quit. I am responsible.
Evil reigns while good men do nothing.
'Scuse me while I'm Laughing, Man.
cyx7 8 months ago
i loved it.
veilofpaya 8 months ago
So true I say that every time somone uses we to refer to us to include the actions of the big govnment.
superjew1000 8 months ago
Dont be convinced of anything, search & dig & never be satisfied by one mans interpretation, as everyones perception level at any given time can be clouded or misdirected. Dont just protest, stand against these officers that attempt to arrest the innocent, make a stand & form a citizens arrest against these officials.. You cant protest & just become idle while someone is being violated. Yet the protesters just chant in disaggreance, it does nothing. 10 officers controlling the MASSES.
LendMeYourHand 8 months ago
We arent asking anyone to save the world, we arent asking you to go bomb 3rd world countries, infact we demand that you remove yourself from what is simply funding terrorism. We just want you to hold yourself accountable for your personal current surroundings. If someone is being exploited in front of your eyes, make a stand. Dont allow it to happen to ppl standing next to you, dont fight for someone elses ideals from what you heard from word of mouth, stand for what you know for sure.
LendMeYourHand 8 months ago
I'm not sure how I feel about this one. Some of it probably terminology. For instance 'nationality'; some people use it to describe their ethnicity, some use it to designate their citizenship. Because of my appearance people will ask me my nationality and I'll say 'American', then they ask 'what 'race' are you?' I'll tell them I'm a Texan, my ethnicity. Confusion reigns. The same with 'state' and 'government'. People assign different meanings to the terms. It's a mess.
Glad you're back though.
acuriousbeast 8 months ago
This is a BIG part of the mentality, we hear ppl talking about being ashamed or proud to be a citizen, or that another mans actions is an embarrassement to us all. Its absolutely madness to take responsibility as a whole when most of what we are subjected to we were born into. Then you have the ppl that wont take accountability for their society & as we say its not our problem, our actions/inactions directly effect the outcome as it has an immediate effect to our surroundings as a whole.
LendMeYourHand 8 months ago
Anarchy is idealic, but impossible to maintain. Even if there was no government right now...there is always going to be that group of people who wants to change it. I mean look at all these new underground (drug fueled) movements terrorizing innocent people now. Yes, there will always be that person that will take control somehow, UNLESS humanity has their minds retooled and cleansed of all individual thinking. Plain and Simple it's all flawed, the best bet is to choose the lesser of evils.
SuperiorSwagon1 8 months ago
So how do anarchist plan to deal with sociopaths, rapists, and murderers?
jedah76 9 months ago
@jedah76 with law (not legislation)
AlecTaylor6 9 months ago
I like almost all of your videos but this video seems evidence of lack of understaning of representative government and the history of the founding of the USA. I do believe the USA was derailed some decades ago and has been crashing worse and worse ever since though.
kerrywsmyth 9 months ago
And yes ...Bin Laden is dead. Numero Uno question of course is, where was Pakistan or what divisions and cells of Pakistan are our enemies? Shamefully...we should never have been there in the 1st place, as in Iraq, Afghanistan unless in 'SPEC OPS'. Period. Bring the troops home. If world community can't see to 'split the bill as well as troops'.. we have a Drug War on the border that needs addressing. Nohing to do w/illegal crossing that are down 40%. Legalize MJ these slimes go byes byes!
MrClaydough 10 months ago
Everyone in this country is responsible for every MURDER AND RAPE in foreign lands . If you want to lie to yourself to sleep well thats fine with me. The taxes you generate feed the war. The "peaceful" protest that have never ever worked is nothing short of giving up. If this is by the people and for the people and 90% of the people dont want war or bailouts and they do it anyways THEN IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE FIERCE MILITANT ACTION AGAINST OUR GOVERNMENT as stated by our forefathers.
fawkUtube 10 months ago
I respect you as an individual.but you can find more similarities in "the matrix" that can be applied to "real" life.. The red/blue pill or ignorance is bliss/knowledge is power.. The tax generating battery where paper money is debt paid with debt = perpetual slavery. You can "plug" into the internet and learn just about anything. There are groups of people out there, who can. when together, change the vibration of the earth. We have more power then we are told.Thoughts change futures.
fawkUtube 10 months ago
@mikeshanklin What do you think of Ron Paul? I think he's the closest thing we have to ending at least a portion of tyranny here in the U.S.. I think he could start the transition to the anarchism you are speaking of.
TheAmazingJimmy 10 months ago
it cannot be paid off period...
what is the interest rate on that money with our new lower credit rating, per year, per month...
addvanced 10 months ago
i would say that supporters are not necessarily part of the government (unless they support them with money).
stealthswimmer 10 months ago
@stealthswimmer What about poor people who cheer it on from the sidelines? All it takes is even the slightest bit of minimal support...
VoluntaryVirtues0com 10 months ago
@VoluntaryVirtues0com
No, not really. I wouldn't say they're part of the government either. They merely want to protect it since they view it as something that we need, and some people even think it's good. I disagree with them, but that's their opinion, and simply holding that opinion doesn't make one a part of the government.
stealthswimmer 9 months ago
There is no SOCIETY! There are ONLY individuals and groups of INDIVIDUALS! :-)
samlowrey63 10 months ago
Sorry you dude, you got it wrong. It's not our money. It's their money. They use it for our self-worth.
GermanicPrussian 10 months ago
It is the very reasons capitalists hate Unions while socialists and anarchists have always loved Unions. The strength in numbers aspect I mentioned in the previous post. What we have in the USA, by the way, is essentially State Capitalism, which is another term for both Fascism and Statism. You should add that information to your video so as to be more historically, and factually, accurate on the use of the term "Statism." It's not some mystery boogyman called government.
PalemoonSun 11 months ago
To me, Statism also refers to the "States Rights" statists who want to break you further down into an individual. It is far easier to control an individual than it is to control a group. Marx knew that and he thought it should be societies greatest strength against oppression. If you have 10 men trying to coerce 1 man, they will get their way every time. But for 10 men to try to coerce a group of say, 200 men, that won't work and they know it. So they push for you to become individuals.
PalemoonSun 11 months ago
I like your channel and I like this video. I even agree with a lot of it. However, there is something that is questionable. The labeling of the government as the boogyman and the loose use of the word Statism. Even under Anarchy, there is government. There has to be in order for any society at all to function. Even tribes had their councils, remember? And in many tribes, particularly those of my ancestral home of Ireland, many chieftains were beholden to the councils who held the real power.
PalemoonSun 11 months ago
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Americans may say “take it easy” but no more. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the government will bring to our ears the sound of arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that Americans want? Magic fairy land and pixie dust? Is your cushy life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Hell NO! I don’t know how others will react; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
PatriotsRepublic 11 months ago
we are all individduals but we still need to help eachother and wanting to help eachother not just thinking about ourselfs and my ''property''
never say no to some one that wants to really help you becuase in this world we sure dont have many of them peace!
oinco90 11 months ago
Wow. Quite a notion of reality you have there, Mike.
Causality. Think about it for a while. Then think about it some more. Then some more.
Finished? Ok. Where is the role of the individual's decision making? Not a political point. Just a reality-based one.
sohanstag 11 months ago
This is almost flawless.
My question for those who stumble across this later is:
Do you govern yourself or do you leave that responsibility to someone else?
I hope to see more of this excellence.
TheOneLaw 11 months ago
Hi, Mike. Thanks for the video. I think there is another thing besides government that people use to make themselves powerful. That is the all mighty dollar. How would you keep the power of money in check if people started using it to manipulate others, just as they do with our government? Secondly, where do you draw the line between a leader and a ruler, and how would you decide this given that not everyone will be in agreement over various issues?
seanotube85 11 months ago
Bill Hicks hit the nail on the head, "Is life real, or is it a ride?", Live your life like a ride, and you will see just how stupid people are who think life is serious. Everyone can step out the game straight away by just understanding inwardly that "YOU" decide your future. I would rather be in prison with an opened mind, than living like other sheeple, but that's just me because it's "My life, and not theres".
tonytg909 1 year ago
Genius!
LucaBoulders 1 year ago
Mike, this is an awesome message my friend! POWERFUL! I am going to add this to my playlist. You are truly beyond your years. May God continue to guide and protect you so that you may wake up many more! Blessings!
Tonytime1 1 year ago
Mike ............You're really enlightening so many, i value your friendship, and look foward to your great videos.... keep on my friend
God bless you
Fatima
000backatone 1 year ago
Hegel, Marx or Rousseau would vehemently disagree with this video.
Large enterprises requiere large organizations.
Complex Civilization doesn´t come for free!
States are crap but so are civil wars or living in the middle ages.
Show me an alternative that could work, please.
mrfoxtalbot 1 year ago
I AM THE GOVERNMENT I AM IN CONTROLL
FunKitYourSelf 1 year ago
I would love to see the eradication of the nation-state. Wars don't happen between people, they happen between governments, perpetuated by disciples of the state.
Trimbler00 1 year ago
while the upper middle classes dont even know what to do with thier money,or some spend it on spreading war or supporting wars "wars wearing a human rights badge" , my point is how long can people indure ? how long can they remain as slaves and assets instead of exploring thier full potential with freethinking mind ?
sphinxofthenewage 1 year ago
@sphinxofthenewage I don't know if I would ask that question. I may even argue that once mankind reaches such a state of equilibrium and liberty, they would cease to relevant to humanity... maintaining a only a passing resemblance to us, as we do to Habilis ... Maybe not Physiologically, but my point should be obvious enough.
nazaxprime 1 year ago
government / corperate money farms..we are the assets imprisoned involentarily to serve and obey...i mean some might argue and say we are going to the extremes with our statements but allow me to share with those the proof that we are assets. 25 of my friends 17 of my relatives 49 of my work partners (these are the people that shared with me some info related to the topic) almost all of them are in dept one way or another....why must the lower / middle class people indure the pressures of life
sphinxofthenewage 1 year ago
this system is entering a big but slow paced collapse i beleive, due to the recent events and also due to the increasing people awarness of its existance and intentions / goals. But the question that i always ask myself ....is how much longer or how much more pressure can people indure to finally snap and realize that they are nothing more than assets ? i mean there is a limit of breaking point somewhere ....but when will people reach that ? many are induring unbeleivable pressures due to goverm
sphinxofthenewage 1 year ago
well mike in modern america i have to agree with you in theory only. see we the people are supposed to be the government unfortunetly with this main stream media propaganda machine we have become at best neutral ie politically correct and have started down a slippery slope to collectivisim. this is bad, the ideas that you put forth are not new, in fact they are for the most part what the founders invisioned for our governement. "if men were angles no government would be nesseicary." J. Madison
abntemplar82 1 year ago
You're a dumb asshole. You recieve you're agreed individuality from the government. It's not the other way around. Think about owning money you can not own money if you don't have an account with the government it's simple.
studentoflife01 1 year ago
@studentoflife01
I don't receive individuality from organized violence. What are you talking about?!? Money is everything, you are speaking of paper currency, which governments are not needed for, and in fact, always turn into fiat currency. You seriously have a LOT of research to start on....
VoluntaryVirtues0com 1 year ago
You can't defend your position with that "The government needs money". The truth is: we are in an anarchy commune until you can accept that you will be blinded by the vicious lies that the government tells. The government is not dependent on money. The government makes money literally. A bank where money comes from is the bank between the "high seas" and the "land". Current of the shore. Currency. Congress a coming together of a group of apes, congress I could go on and on.
studentoflife01 1 year ago
13 people have a fetish for being slaves.
MrAntinet 1 year ago
Great vid. Some say the reason government assumes so much control over the people it alleges to serve is because individuals sign a contract making them an employee/agent of a corporation acting as de-facto government. If you have signed such a contract they expect you to be a good employee & follow company policy / statues aka "laws" Otherwise they will send their Police[y] enforcers after you. This would make you very much a part of the government. Rob Menard explains this well in his videos.
utw888 1 year ago
OUTSTANDING video!
I tried to make a vid to say this very thing but you did better then me!! Thank you very much for getting this crucial concept out there!
Subscribed.
Iseeyoursoul 1 year ago
no!
ages0ne 1 year ago
Very good.
dvdwmplr 1 year ago
Mike keep up the great work. You speak the truth for all individuals.
You are breaking the chains of statism.
Garland
garlandshar49 1 year ago
You have my support friend. I agree totally.
shaolinhag 1 year ago
Thanks Mike! It would seem best to at least see where "we" are. The right choices from there would be not based on fear. People who cannot look past this society, past money, then they live in fear and will always believe what fits in their narrow view point. Anything outside of it is easily scoffed at, all the while, them not knowing they are scoffing because they blindly fear what they do not know. The blind ones get so mad, so upset, how backwards... they haven't seen sh*t yet
Guyjharrison 1 year ago
More propaganda. Why do I click these links? You want the truth? Here's how America was supposed to work. Government enforces law and has LEADERSHIP of the military. In order to maintain freedom, we have democracy, freedom of protest and the right to bear arms. These right are to be liberally maintained, but they have been sacrificed for peace of mind. Income tax was also initially illegal. Research our wars and national history, maybe then your propaganda will be effective at all.
MrNeromes 1 year ago
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@MrNeromes "Here's how America was supposed to work. Government enforces law and has LEADERSHIP of the military. In order to maintain freedom, we have democracy,"
= I thought America was supposed to be a Republic?
CannabisCorporation 1 year ago
Agree about national sent, go dig it out of the swiss bank accounts. The nations are owned by rich families & guess what, you as a citizen is also owned by these people. They dictate to you & teach your children that slavery is freedom & being terrorized is justice. Visit the website mayabell (.com there is a video explaining it very well. You are a subject of those ruling over you with deception & tyranny. Jezebel was the queen from tyre that married ehab & tyranny/terror was invented by them.
ENDUSANOW 1 year ago
WELL stated. Statism sucks.
BabyCanaryYelllin 1 year ago
As soon as one realizes the elections are frauds then the actions and resultant debts of those fraudulently elected puppets (of the globalists behind them) becomes invalid.
Libertyrider 1 year ago
@Libertyrider both parties are owned & puppets of the criminals behind the scenes. They keep stealing, killing & looting our country, health & freedoms.
ENDUSANOW 1 year ago
Great video, thank you. I think you are very sweet & attractive. X
777newworldlove 1 year ago 4
Thanks for going out of your way to state the obvious, thats not sarcastic....however people use "we" to take empathic responsibility avoiding blame...until they can't anymore. Instability is bad except as manure. Peaceful conscious authentic pressure is far more powerful and our best beginning at this peaceful transition is ron paul and ralph nader excavating the entire government with new blood, not by vote, but by flat out public demand. Obedience to the constitution will be reinvented.
Mezocosm 1 year ago
hmm... what you seem to advocate is more in line with city states or even a small family units (a tribe). i see you didn't get my analogy about Gov. is a tool for the people. i see Gov. as just a group of elected individuals select among the people to serve its people for a limited amount of time and both citizen and Gov. follow established law which is agreed is suitable to keep order and liberty. but i never knew Gov. was alive to do evil like war, i though it need people to such actions.
justroy06 1 year ago
but wait are you not perpetuating a new system that might the potential of becoming corrupt. you say to walk away from violent system but thing is violent happen regardless of a system or not. its like saying your a non-conformist but in fact you are conforming in a growing group who have non-conformed in the past and forming groups so others can join like your group. you may say we don't need a system anymore but your advocating one. anarchy is not the way and can lead to tyranny.
justroy06 1 year ago
@justroy06
You have it backwards. Everything can lead to tyranny....anarchy is the lack of tyranny. You are saying we need tyranny to not have tyranny?!?
"If men are good, you don't need a government. If men are evil or ambivalent, you don't dare have one." ~Robert LeFevre
and no, the "system" I strive for has no central planning, no monarch or president or king.... in fact, this system has no rulers, but 6 1/2 billion leaders. That is, personal responsibility and voluntaryism. Real Freedom
mikeshanklin 1 year ago 20
@mikeshanklin i got it backwards . hm... perhaps your right. but duh anarchy is a lack of tyranny but hey people will always look for a leader to lead that is just human nature especially if evil is not checked. you can't have your cake and eat it too. but i'm glad i got you to admit to how your wrong about systems even if your system has no ruler and other have some. but maybe i'm just an idealist who wants his cake and eat it too. 6 1/2 billion leaders, you know what happen with too many cook.
justroy06 1 year ago
@justroy06
Leaders are great! Rulers aren't. No government is what keeps evil at bay. No large scale war, no victimless crimes, no theft through taxation (all security could be funded by voluntaryism, which means the people will get the level security they want, versus what the inefficient government monopoly mandates to them. Sorry, I don't believe in the lie that government protects property rights when it is the greatest infringer. Yes, you do want your cake and eat it too... statism lies.
mikeshanklin 1 year ago 15
@mikeshanklin This is the part where I sound like I contradict myself. Please do not mistake this as contradiction. Majority of countries have been founded on pushing aside inhabbitance and slavery. Do i agree with that action? Of course not. I do agree with the opening idea for America itself, but how it was founded I do not. Absolute Anarchy is a hole being dug for internal violence in humanity itself. Common sense marked as rules or even rules of your choice religion MAY keep things in check.
Shreddfase 1 year ago
@mikeshanklin , given that my concept is human nature the likelyness of absolute anarchy being successful is no doubt next to slim.
Your ideas are great though. If only it was a perfect world right?
Keep spreading your ideas, more people need to think in terms of less government, limited government, or for people who are on your brain wave, down the road of anarchy.
Cheers~
Shreddfase 1 year ago
@justroy06 Wow... Quit while your behind.
nazaxprime 1 year ago
@nazaxprime huh? quit while i am behind, hmmm...could you be more specific.
justroy06 1 year ago
@justroy06 Sorry, No. My previous statments in addition to this contain about all the time I have for you in my entire life. That said... Have a great life!
nazaxprime 1 year ago
@nazaxprime i guess i don't desire the satisfaction. i'm not on your level, yet. lol i guess i peg you as some self-deluded arrogant self-righteous well meaning guy. its unfortunate that all the time you have, i guess you have a choir to preach to and stop debates before it starts. well have an even greater life then i would have, i'm just so behind. well God bless and farewell.
justroy06 1 year ago
@justroy06, There are always leaders in a society but they don't necessarily need to be governmental leaders. In a society there are always leaders of industry, intellect, and morality. One can even be leader by setting the example for others to follow to lead a virtuous life. A true leader does not lead by command or coercion but by example.
gwss76 8 months ago
@justroy06 That presumes that everyone is trying to be a leader (the cook in your analogy), and that everyone would want a compulsory leader in their lives. I wouldn't but I would choose to follow my mom's advice, or specific peoples advice, I would even follow them in situations that required it (like if they were the chef and I was a mere sauce cooker) but that is a consensual arrangement, no force, just food and those who want it. Freedom allows for specialization more than top down leaders
Chrisrayholly 8 months ago
@mikeshanklin
Anarchy is another Utopian dream. It cannot work. Anarchy is based on all people being naturally good. If I leave my home should I expect it to still be mine when I return if there is no police or laws to keep it mine? Would it be my right to kill anyone who enters my home when I am gone even though there are no laws against walking in to an empty building and taking it for your own? Now I understand that can happen now but at least I would have a way of getting my stuff back.
disturbedone5009 1 year ago
@mikeshanklin The WISE understand, LIMITED Gov't is REQUIRED to protect EACH person's LIFE, LIBERTY & Freedom to PERSUE HAPPINESS from the Mobocracy, Monopoly (gov't or corporate) & the Bully!
Juvenile Anarchists/Socialists ignore history & the 7 deadly sins (flaws) in human nature. Anarchy always turns into Oligarchy when the people cry out for a "strong leader" (Mao, Hitler, Stalin) and his “friends” to "restore order" to protect them (the weak individual) from the MOB, MONOPOLY & BULLY.
yakyakyak69 8 months ago
@yakyakyak69 I'm a minarchist and so agree with what it is that you are saying. The reason why I do not consider myself a full-fledged anarchist is because I can not imagine completely voluntary solutions to all societal problems. With that said, I do not feel I have the right to impose any sort of government or rules on anybody else, provided that they aren't harming me. Thus, I believe Constitutionalists, minarchists, and anarchists can coexist quite peacefully. Do you agree?
chuska8383 8 months ago
@chuska8383
Constitutionalists ARE minarchists and use a Constitution to grant power TO gov't to protect individual liberty for ALL.
Aanarchists are ignorant, immature children who don't care that history has proven time and time again that ZERO gov't always leads to Authoritarianism by those with the might who are willing to enforce their wills upon others in the name of "security".
Anarchists are MORE dangerous than Statists, Anarchy leads to a MORE powerful, MORE tyrannical gov't.
yakyakyak69 8 months ago
@yakyakyak69 But what if they don't wish to participate in our minarchism? We don't have the right to force our beliefs on them, do you not agree? Besides, if given the chance, they might come up with something that works, they might not. If their system works better than ours, I'll join them, and vice versa. I'd like all systems to be able to compete in a nonviolent manner. I'm not sure if this attitude classifies as minarchist or anarchist.... What do you think?
chuska8383 8 months ago
@chuska8383 I agree that each individual does not have the right to force their beliefs on others, HOWEVER, we as a society must have rules. We agree that murder, rape, theft etc are bad. We agree that individual liberty is good, right?
WHO will protect the individual liberty of the weak? Who will enforce property rights or right of contract?
Have you ever read "Lord of the flies"? Anarchy is OK when you're the strongest BUT humans are NOT insects! We are NOT a "collective"!
yakyakyak69 8 months ago
@yakyakyak69 I've read Lord of the Flies, I agree that society must have rules, and so the crimes you mentioned (taking life, taking liberty, taking personal property including another's body) allow force to be used in self defense. I am disgusted by collectivism of all stripes, especially when involuntary.
I agree individual liberty should be held paramount. If we are to have people protect the liberties of the weak, we must have them be funded on a strictly voluntary basis, yes?
chuska8383 8 months ago
@chuska8383 Yes, self defense requires the ABILITY to defend one's self. What about those who are unable to defend themselves? As humans, should we just let them suffer? What about bullies (including statists) who use violence or threats of violence to force their will upon others? Should this be allowed?
Isn't Anarchy actually a form of collectivism when the people form into groups to force their will upon other, less powerful groups or individuals?
All things require balance!
yakyakyak69 8 months ago
@yakyakyak69 YAY FOR INTELLIGENCE!!! :D You made my day yakyak...which means I probably should be doing more exciting things :P. I was an anarchist once, but then I started wondering at the basic level. Why do governments form in the first place, whats to stop them from forming again, or some other power structure? The response I typically got from one "famed" anarchist Stefan Molyneux was "the free market will find the answer!". And then I realized these people are just blindly idealistic... :(
radscorpion8 8 months ago
@mikeshanklin Another pipe dream and why is that. Well in my life from service to other thing I can name a long list that the moment t your system goes live. They will murder you rape your wife and children and live in your house till they get board and do it again. Anarchy proven by history does one thing. Open the door for a iron fist king. Period end of story. natural law .....nature hates a vacuum................
Edgrot 8 months ago
@justroy06 we need three things to sort out the world, 1. a true democracy-we don't get a say an anything on the national level-democracy doesn't really exist at the moment 2. to be able to call a vote of no confidence in government and kick them out at a moments notice and form a new government. 3. an economy that isn't based on debt-something like lincolns greenback-while money is still created at a debt-we well always have a national debt-it's inherent-good video Mike!
richrica 1 year ago
@richrica have you ever read the the U.S. Deceleration of Independence? the founding fathers felt government was created by the people and for this reason it was the responsibility of the people to be active in and not allow anyone to corrupt it. but if it did they had a right, a duty to alter or to abolish that said government who has become destructive of our liberty and institute new ones. i wanted to call his hypocrisy of doing away with a the system altogether but intern creating his own.
justroy06 1 year ago
@justroy06 yes Mike absolutely-i'll send you a link you might find useful (it won't let me here)
richrica 1 year ago
you support the government by doing nothing and being indifferent and just walking away but hey i'm guilty of it to, so who am i. the problem is the system. LMAO the system, government or whatever is a tool like a hammer, no better yet a gun. who holds it can institute whatever system it wants. but America was build to be ruled by law not of men, like a monarchy, etc. but we stood back and government went unchecked and the corrupt took over now the system is to blame. you just walked away.
justroy06 1 year ago
@justroy06
No, no, I walked away from perpetuating a violent system, I never walked away from educating. You aren't suppose to walk away from civilization, just the coercive sector, as we need to educate people that we don't need a system anymore. That is the end goal I am striving towards, not some short-sighted election that won't do anything to better the long-run integrity of society through the nonaggression axiom.
mikeshanklin 1 year ago 10
@mikeshanklin I agree with some portions however human nature is your wall to climb. Anarchy is with out government. To expect that all humans be responsible is like expecting a murderer not to kill you. The idea is great but rules need to be there. An absolute ruler is not a good ruler. A leader that leads for the right reasons can keep things in the boundry. If America stuck to the roots it was built on, the issues of today wouldnt be anywhere close to the issues we have now.
Shreddfase 1 year ago
I politely disagree with many, many points of this video.
teloscaylos 1 year ago
our government is a working system. The biggest enemy I have seen is the bitch next door who is just doing things for no reason. It gives women a bad name. People’s home life is a mess. We have yet to learn that above all tolerance is that middle ground where we can meet and settle our sometimes overreacting and unsettled emotions. We have not learned a sense of sharing and compassion among each other. The USA government is doing fine.
rmalka1 1 year ago
I love that you don't know me.
More profoundly, I love that you're a dipshit who may be right most of the time. Some of my friends are dipshits like you, so please excuse me if I call you fucking idiot.
I call my closest friends idiots too, and when they're not kicking the living crap out of me, they're hailing me as a genius.
Try harder not to suck so much, will you?
DarcPrynce 1 year ago
The government is to the people as the New York mafia is to Little Italy.
TreachMarkets 1 year ago 4
@TreachMarkets
the new york mafia benefits Little Italy more than the FED GOV does to the rest of the nation. Better paying jobs, fewer hours, why would you want to work in a cubicle for some corporate asshole when you can deal drugs and make millions of quick dollars?
yuri60014 1 year ago
I'm just wondering why anarcho-capitalists focus and obsess about government so much. Most anarchists focus their energy on developing (either intellectually, or via anarchist communities) the type of society they would like to see arise from a lack of government. Like other libertarians, anarcho-capitalists focus too much on government and too little on social matters.
LiberalCast 1 year ago
Great Video. If you are anti-anything that the government has taught us is "patriotic," then you are automatically "un-American"
If three percent of the US population would "Opt-Out" of government we could shut it down. Think about it, if three percent refused to pay taxes, or three percent went to the white house and smoked weed, or refused to acknowledge victimless crimes in general we could overflow the system to the point that it would have to change in favor of liberty.
shylomike 1 year ago
This video is without doubt one of the most well thought out and mentally sain videos I have ever listened to. Great work mate.
teslaglobal 1 year ago 29
Hell yes! I am a unique individual!
connerjd 1 year ago
It all seems so simple to me now. When you break the spell of nationalism and patriotism, the truth becomes so crystal clear that you wonder how the spell could still be afflicting someone. Thanks for helping to wake people up.
BookofNick 1 year ago
I wish I could applaud through time and space, but I'm doing it now, and I will every time I see this video again. God...how nice it is to hear I'm not the only person who sees things a certain way. Not a majority. I don't even have to be a LARGE -minority-. But it's nice knowing I'm not utterly alone. For this if nothing else, here's to the internet.
For a time I thought I was "born into the state". No. I realized it was /assumed/.
They saw me as theirs....-before-...I was even born.
HotaruZoku 1 year ago
Wow, Im impressed. Wish more Americans would think like you. It would do the rest of the world a whole lot of good if the american public did something about their government.
Q80Pandora 1 year ago
@kylethebomber "Frankly, the only people who benefit from a return are people who own gold assests."
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You must have a very limited understanding of economics. The point being (for me and liberty minded people) is elimination of the Fiat system means an elimination of ever expanding and uncontrolled growth of state powers. Gold Standards will foster individual liberty and returns the power back to the people. We will no longer be the slave but the masters of our own society.
Windsblow 1 year ago
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@kylethebomber "Frankly, the only people who benefit from a return are people who own gold assests."
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You must have a very limited understanding of economics. The point being (for me and liberty minded people) is elimination of the Fiat system means an elimination of ever expanding and uncontrolled growth of state powers. Gold Standards will foster individual liberty and returns the power back to the people. We will no longer be the slave but the masters of our own society.
Windsblow 1 year ago
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Windsblow 1 year ago
I can understand where you're coming from, and I agree that collectivism is not the answer, but even if a state is not present, people will still need something common by which they can decide their disputes and govern their activities in relation to each other (especially to those who have different opinions). I think there will always need to be some sort of judicial system but the other two branches don't seem to be necessary, and being a judge could just be a part time job.
baryonyx550 1 year ago
@baryonyx550 not so. A judge can rule on a decision but you will need an entity to enforce it . That will take a group of people. depending on the forces aligned against that decision that group will either need to be small or large and be around for in some cases a long while to see the decision through.
That takes money, which in turn will take organisation, which in turn will need a government (which will also need to be in place to give the judge the authority in the first place).
Telcontar1962 1 year ago
@Telcontar1962 I think the people are capable of organizing without a central authority telling them to do so. However, I agree that it would take a goverment to enforce the court decision, however, I draw a distinction between government and the state. To me, a state is a solid fixed entity which monopolizes a geographic area with regards to government , while I would define government simply as a system by which people resolve disputes and protect the rights of themselves and their community
baryonyx550 1 year ago
(cont): also about the judge having an authority, what I had in mind when I said a judicial system was individuals who let knew the common law (which can come about naturally) and let others know that they could be called upon to act as a third party in dispute resolution and there wouldn't be any barrier to entry. Instead of authority, the judges would have reputation based on their standing in the community, their intelligence, and their past experience as a judge.
baryonyx550 1 year ago
If every single American ponied up 40 grand, we could pay that debt off. Calling the national debt "unpayable" is what the media has led you to believe, but that national debt can be payed off, the wealth is there, the problem is that the top 10% of this country controls 80% of that wealth. You're fighting the wrong fight. Trying to stop "government" is unproductive, we need it to do public service which everyone relies on. The REAL threats are the politicians, the rich, and the media. Not gov.
CommandoDude 1 year ago
@CommandodudeRespectfully disagree. First the dept is a direct result of our monetary system not being backed up by gold or silver. The "dollar that we spend every day is not money. (according to the Constitution) It's a promise to pay. The Federal reserve, a private bank, loans those dollars AT INTEREST! So they give us "notes" and then tack on interest to the loan but since they are the only ones with the money we go back to them for more "notes" and of course more interest is levied.
joeysstashspot 1 year ago
@joeysstashspot Backing our money with gold or silver would be disastrous, a return to the gold standard would wreck the economy. I don't like the Fed but I'm certainly not in favor of using such obsolete economic standard.
CommandoDude 1 year ago
@CommandoDude You're going to have to provide a more substantive rebuttal of the gold standard if you expect anyone to be convinced. Simply calling it "obsolete" is meaningless. Was the gold standard obsolete when the government issued continental dollars during the revolution? How about 18th century France? The Wiemar Republic?
The US experienced the largest economic gains in it's history under the gold standard. An "elastic currency," as they call it, is destructive.
kylethebomber 1 year ago
@kylethebomber Yet there is not even enough gold in the world to equal the value of currency in circulation. Deflation would become significantly hard to control. Not to mention monetary policy would be entirely controlled by gold production, while values fluctuate due to short term instability.
Then gold's applicable uses become narrower.
Frankly, the only people who benefit from a return are people who own gold assests.
CommandoDude 1 year ago
@CommandoDude Yes, monetary policy would be controlled by market forces instead of political forces. That is a good thing! The fed has been an unmitigated failure by any standard, we had a very sound monetary policy before the fed took over and have had a deteriorating currency ever since.
Take a look at this vid: VTs2ttdKatQ
kylethebomber 1 year ago
Extremely valid and important points raised here of quintessential relevance.
Jass8888 1 year ago
Anarchy = Self government. You have posted here and elsewhere about tyrants coming out of anarchy but all your examples take place in very primitive societies. I disagree with the question. I seek simply to end the use of force/violence. If gov't services are so valuable why aren't they offered voluntarily? Cannot these same services be offered voluntarily in the free market? Does the FM deliver better services/products than the gov't? Stef has some great info on DRO's etc.
oucanemailme 1 year ago