Kovu was supposed to be Scar's last born son. But Then disney realized that would make Kovu and Kiara related so they beat us over the head with Kovu not being Scar's son
@XenoZillaArt XD Which I think is absolutely hilarious, because they didn't catch the fact that Simba and Nalla are half-siblings. XD If they could get married, cousins should be fine, right? lol
OH! Oh, I just got it! I always knew that he wasn't Scar's son, but I didn't know why the writers did that- I just realized now that that would have made Kiara and Kovu cousins... *wince*
hmph. I never quite understood the movie up until a few months ago. That's when I figured out what was what. This scene would of totally explained it.
oh my god this should have been in there!!!! because the movie makes it seemed like scar was his father there by making kira his cousin and then they get married, my friends would always rub it in my face about how weird that was i would always be so sad, but this clears it up. so haha on them
I strongly believe Scar was infertile. Otherwise, why would he choose a cub that's not his to be his heir? It would also explain why no other lionesses had children from him during Simba's absence. The presence of Nuka and Vitani in no way hinders this theory: they're not his, either. In fact, I'm a little confused why people think they are.
My point is that Zira was Scar's favorite. It stands to reason that he would choose her child to succeed him, especially since Kovu looked so much like him.
I remember wtach the final movie as a young kid and thinking " Wait who are they?" Now seeing the dleeted scenes I'm faily understanding it. Why didn't they get add this to it? I mean there were other scenes they could cut out,
@YoAmorEspana Yeah, I realized just what I said. I keep rattling my brain over this thing, maybe someone can contact the directors of this movie or something and see what the real deal is. Cuz I'm stumped.
I thin kit worked like this, Zira had Kovu with another lion something must of happened then she meets Scar then has Vitani and Nuka. Just my two cents here.
I loved the second movie, but it kind failed Scar's character. Scar was a selfish, cowardly, sly individual who thought of no one but himself. Why would he, of all people, choose another to succeed him? Had Simba not defeated him, Scar would have remained king till he died, and that would have been the end of it.
Scar just didn't seem the kind of character who would be willing to pass on anything, especially to a character that had no family ties to him. Maybe I'm thinking too much...
I always got the feeling that this movie "doth protesteth too much" about Kovu not being Scar's son. I think this scene would have truly made it one time too many, which is saying a lot given the final version already beat us over the head with it over and over again. "In case you're wondering, audience, Kovu is NOT Scar's son. No relation, whatsoever. Okay? We'll remind you again in ten minutes!"
I can't really tell what you're trying to argue here, but I'm going to assume that you're of the opinion that Kovu is not Scar's son because Kiara and Kovu are too close in age for this to be the case. For one, Scar died not long before Simba and Nala assumed the throne, so its possible that Kovu and Kiara were conceived around the same time (Kovu before Kiara obviously).
Also, the writers originally intended for Kovu to be Scar's son and never gave him a 'replacement' father.
chronologically : Scar reign Kovu birth Scar choses him Simba takes over Simba nails Nala [real life fact - lioness is pregnant for 3 months] Kiara born both grow Kiara-Kovu meet. Kovu should be much bigger, being older. (However.. I really don't know how fast a lion cub grows..) conclusion: we can immagine they met in particular circumstances, where the difference was not that visible 2)Zira is bullshitting everyone just to be queen again 3) movie fails
@maswellasm well, Kiara's already an incest cub, i think it runs in the family either way.
But the mere fact that it came up in early story makes it obvious the incest references were intentional. (Quick quiz - how many males were there making babies in the pride besides mufasa around Nala's birth? q2: Don't lions kill rival offspring if they get born into the same pride?
the first time i watched lion king 2 i was so confused about the whole scar and kovu thing so i think this woulda helped us understand the story line better its not that hard to keep it in but who knows what disney was thinking ;)
they should have kept this part. It would finally show those who havent figured out that Scar ISNT Kovu's father XD yet some still say he's related to him XD
Is it just me , or does Zira sound a lot like Envy from Fullmetal Alchemist? I thought that I'd heard somewhere that they were'nt voiced by the same lady, but they certainly sound similar.
I love the animation of her when she says "No, but he chose you." Her face is so expressive.
In the movie it still mentions him as not scars son.. Nuka the creepy attention starved older lion says "hey Tani where's 'the chosen one'?" Tani: "Mother's going to be mad, you were supposed to be watching him." Nuka: "I should be the chosen one. I'm the oldest, I'm the strongest. --" blah blah but he says "Scar wasn't even his father, he just took him in.."
I watched that movie for animation practice so many times it's not funny
True, but Disney makes them act just enough like humans that it would be kind of weird. Especially since Disney is so into being "family-friendly" and all that.
sarafina actually does have a line but only one its when simba comes up(cub) and asks can he go to the elephant graveyard with nala she says"Hmm. What do you think Sarabi"
Don't think so... Sarabi and Serafina were never related, and if they were, it wasn't included in the movie. I don't think Serafina even ever had a line. =P
No, they weren't related. But think about this one for a minute: there are only two males in the entire pride. If Mufasa mated, Scar would have too. Since Mufasa is not the father of Nala, who is? Just look at those pretty green eyes of hers...and there is NOTHING in lion hierarchy that says cousins cannot mate. It's wrong in our society, but countless monarchies rely on blood relations to mary to keep it pure. Something to think about.
ya no this scene could have stoped a hole lotta confict do you no how many people i meet on u tube saying scar is his father and simba and kovu are cousins i even met a retard that said scar wasnt his father and true that may be they also said zira wasnt his mother and who the hell would think that y did they have to cut it out
I think these scenes were deleted bc the lion king is for young children, I mean I still watch it and you guys do and theres nothing wrong with that but its mainly for younger kids so that would kind of scare them or show them the wrong idea about being evil you know?
This reminds me of Shark Tale a little bit, but I think that film was much better than this. (:
79Louise 1 month ago
Well that finalizes the kovu scar father thing, and god don't u just wanna stab zira
DMANGUY14 3 months ago
Im suprised this didnt make the movie =[
AleuisBlue 4 months ago
aw kovu. i hope they have a lion king 2 in a half showing all the parts just like how they did for the first one.
xxxCrystalxxPinkxx 7 months ago
this is acually kinda sad
musicalsrawesome6 7 months ago
wow im glad this was deleted
somdie666 7 months ago
where can i watch this? the second disc?
Flexglitcher807 7 months ago
lion king 2 was the best disney sequel
hytermmma 10 months ago 2
Kovu was supposed to be Scar's last born son. But Then disney realized that would make Kovu and Kiara related so they beat us over the head with Kovu not being Scar's son
XenoZillaArt 1 year ago
@XenoZillaArt XD Which I think is absolutely hilarious, because they didn't catch the fact that Simba and Nalla are half-siblings. XD If they could get married, cousins should be fine, right? lol
LongFingered 11 months ago
@XenoZillaArt Kovu isn't Scars son.
j04370859 11 months ago
@XenoZillaArt wow...
K2SonicFan 9 months ago
It makes me wonder, if Scar isn;t his father, who is?
There's pretty much only Mufasa and Simba and Scar..
ChristineIreneable 1 year ago
i love all the animation of Zira in this scene; she's a very interesting character, both in design and attitude
FidoFangz 1 year ago
kovo is so adorable in this scene...you just feel so bad for him
thecommenter18 1 year ago
LOL, the jaw drop scene @ 2:00
TheFumasterfeng 1 year ago
@TheFumasterfeng I mean 0:42
TheFumasterfeng 1 year ago
This would probably have served as replacement for the speech she held in front of Simba.
Kreloar 1 year ago
Wow, even Scar knew how much his genetics sucked.
MutantLeprechaun 1 year ago
They seemed pretty close to actually using this scene. The animation keys are even cleaned up!
itena 1 year ago 3
lawl zira's psychotic rant! XD If you can remember where you found this clip, please let me know!!! I <3 tlk
MoonWolf571 1 year ago
crazy lady!
queenegirl 1 year ago
OH! Oh, I just got it! I always knew that he wasn't Scar's son, but I didn't know why the writers did that- I just realized now that that would have made Kiara and Kovu cousins... *wince*
WishesSetFree 1 year ago 5
Scar WASN'T Kovu's father? I always thought it was a sublimital joke that the writers made Kiara and Kovu cousins....:)
CarpetSharkFreak 1 year ago 4
They should have put this scene. It explains that Scar was'nt Kovu father, which many think is true.
Ohadlevi8000 1 year ago 5
@Ohadlevi8000 Even with Nuka and Kovu both stating that Scar wasn't his father?
uzuki54 1 year ago
lol..ziras a jerk
mip903 1 year ago
lol crazy Zira.
werewolf9613 1 year ago
kovu looks so cute at 00:2 X3
MikeMsDaughter11 1 year ago
hmph. I never quite understood the movie up until a few months ago. That's when I figured out what was what. This scene would of totally explained it.
BlackPanda4Ever 1 year ago
dried baron disgusting pathetic termmiting gestest OUTLANDS lol!!!!!!!!!!
SimsXluv 1 year ago
@SimsXluv XD best zira line ever. and her jaw nearly falls to the floor o_O'
PotterYouRotter7 1 year ago
@PotterYouRotter7 Glad you liked the comment ^^
SimsXluv 1 year ago
@SimsXluv Termite infested, not "termmiting gestest"... O_o
Ryoukoholic 1 year ago
@Ryoukoholic Sorry to burst ya bubble Missy or Dude
SimsXluv 1 year ago
I lol'ed for real when i saw zira's face when she said "OUTLANDS!" it scared me to the piont of laughter
nerdmoment 1 year ago 2
oh my god this should have been in there!!!! because the movie makes it seemed like scar was his father there by making kira his cousin and then they get married, my friends would always rub it in my face about how weird that was i would always be so sad, but this clears it up. so haha on them
damnsuspenders 1 year ago
I strongly believe Scar was infertile. Otherwise, why would he choose a cub that's not his to be his heir? It would also explain why no other lionesses had children from him during Simba's absence. The presence of Nuka and Vitani in no way hinders this theory: they're not his, either. In fact, I'm a little confused why people think they are.
My point is that Zira was Scar's favorite. It stands to reason that he would choose her child to succeed him, especially since Kovu looked so much like him.
QueenGhid 1 year ago
i think u should rename this vidio "Zira goes insane with description of the outlands"
CynderandBoltlover 1 year ago
Well hold on, I don't remember anyone saying that Zira's cubs where Scar's as well. Maybe they're Scars Stepchildren??
CrimsonNineTail 1 year ago
I remember wtach the final movie as a young kid and thinking " Wait who are they?" Now seeing the dleeted scenes I'm faily understanding it. Why didn't they get add this to it? I mean there were other scenes they could cut out,
ShadowCatGirl1 1 year ago
@YoAmorEspana Yeah, I realized just what I said. I keep rattling my brain over this thing, maybe someone can contact the directors of this movie or something and see what the real deal is. Cuz I'm stumped.
CrimsonNineTail 1 year ago
I thin kit worked like this, Zira had Kovu with another lion something must of happened then she meets Scar then has Vitani and Nuka. Just my two cents here.
CrimsonNineTail 1 year ago
Disney should've kept this in the movie, it had a lot information about Scar, Zira and Kovu.
Ahadi12345 1 year ago
people are starting to think that zira and chumvi were mates and they had kovu it makes sence and awsome vid that should have been in the movie
stingerscorpi 1 year ago
I loved the second movie, but it kind failed Scar's character. Scar was a selfish, cowardly, sly individual who thought of no one but himself. Why would he, of all people, choose another to succeed him? Had Simba not defeated him, Scar would have remained king till he died, and that would have been the end of it.
Scar just didn't seem the kind of character who would be willing to pass on anything, especially to a character that had no family ties to him. Maybe I'm thinking too much...
avencree 2 years ago 3
i love Zira!
T3ddyGur1 2 years ago 3
Let's face it: Zira was a whore.
fruitikay 2 years ago
Disney animators are amazing.
Degazio 2 years ago 3
I always got the feeling that this movie "doth protesteth too much" about Kovu not being Scar's son. I think this scene would have truly made it one time too many, which is saying a lot given the final version already beat us over the head with it over and over again. "In case you're wondering, audience, Kovu is NOT Scar's son. No relation, whatsoever. Okay? We'll remind you again in ten minutes!"
maswellasm 2 years ago 95
@maswellasm I think they focused too much on the fact that Kovu and Kiara aren't going to be in incest.
rangerkom 2 years ago
@maswellasm
So how come Kiara and Kovu is kind of the same age when they meet???
Ok, let's even go to such lenghts as to disregard this scene.
Whether movie makers just didn't care, or better yet - Ziara tells some bullshit about Kovu being chosen by Scar.
EdTheBadass 1 year ago
I can't really tell what you're trying to argue here, but I'm going to assume that you're of the opinion that Kovu is not Scar's son because Kiara and Kovu are too close in age for this to be the case. For one, Scar died not long before Simba and Nala assumed the throne, so its possible that Kovu and Kiara were conceived around the same time (Kovu before Kiara obviously).
Also, the writers originally intended for Kovu to be Scar's son and never gave him a 'replacement' father.
maswellasm 1 year ago
EdTheBadass 1 year ago 2
@maswellasm agreed. far too subtle. *sarcasm*
januaryjewel 8 months ago
@maswellasm It's either that or everyone would think that Kovu and Kiara was incest! >:o
mulelover555 8 months ago
@maswellasm well, Kiara's already an incest cub, i think it runs in the family either way.
But the mere fact that it came up in early story makes it obvious the incest references were intentional. (Quick quiz - how many males were there making babies in the pride besides mufasa around Nala's birth? q2: Don't lions kill rival offspring if they get born into the same pride?
Come on.)
LiimLsan 3 months ago
i like the cut scene :O it was kinda funny XD it was all over a bug lol
Bluekoolaid11 2 years ago 3
the first time i watched lion king 2 i was so confused about the whole scar and kovu thing so i think this woulda helped us understand the story line better its not that hard to keep it in but who knows what disney was thinking ;)
rockinthepolkadotsox 2 years ago
They should have kept this in. It didn't even take up that much time. Did Disney just get lazy, or something?
WolfPawDragonClaw 2 years ago 2
yeah it would make more sense if they did!
leafstar13 2 years ago
Zira, are you TRYING to give Kovu a panic attack? XD
safoxx 2 years ago 3
I wouldn't imagine which part this would come in but maybe it would be the part before "My Lullaby"
lovepuppy513 2 years ago
I don't like this scene 'cause it makes Zira seem out-of characta? I'm not sure, she just don't seem the same in 'is scene...
ShenziHyena94 2 years ago
they should have kept this part. It would finally show those who havent figured out that Scar ISNT Kovu's father XD yet some still say he's related to him XD
Lulzforever 2 years ago 2
kovu does mention that scar wasnt his father when talking to kiara as adults
darkfire170 2 years ago
Is it just me , or does Zira sound a lot like Envy from Fullmetal Alchemist? I thought that I'd heard somewhere that they were'nt voiced by the same lady, but they certainly sound similar.
I love the animation of her when she says "No, but he chose you." Her face is so expressive.
SchizoSchematic 2 years ago 3
In the movie it still mentions him as not scars son.. Nuka the creepy attention starved older lion says "hey Tani where's 'the chosen one'?" Tani: "Mother's going to be mad, you were supposed to be watching him." Nuka: "I should be the chosen one. I'm the oldest, I'm the strongest. --" blah blah but he says "Scar wasn't even his father, he just took him in.."
I watched that movie for animation practice so many times it's not funny
NeexFox 2 years ago
Kovu's voice sounds like oliver from oliver and compony :)
Leoniemol 2 years ago 62
@Leoniemol It is the same voice acter ;)
IrkinWarrierKirt 1 year ago
True, but Disney makes them act just enough like humans that it would be kind of weird. Especially since Disney is so into being "family-friendly" and all that.
FireofSekhmet 2 years ago 2
Lions that mate are often related. It isn't "wrong" for them, and even if it was, they wouldn't know.
mrwick60 2 years ago
i saw that part....it wasnt deleted..
natashashasha98 2 years ago
without the color and shading, i thought kovu was kopa at first! He kinda does look like him^_^
Pad8ketcher 2 years ago
rough rough ruff !
saeho90 2 years ago
sarafina actually does have a line but only one its when simba comes up(cub) and asks can he go to the elephant graveyard with nala she says"Hmm. What do you think Sarabi"
zacefronfan100 2 years ago
why did they take this part off i like it and the news part too i liked that one too
webkinzX0X0 2 years ago
"Kovu! Don't let it go!!" *smack*
haha find that part so funny for some reason
but seriously what is wrong with Kovu if he catches an insect and doesn't eat it :S what kind of lion is he?
vvelvettearss 2 years ago 2
Zira looks like T Rex when she's angry..she's worst than Scar and uglier
Catgirl08 2 years ago 4
poor baby kovu ^.^ hes so cute!
Choscabella69 3 years ago 4
Wow she is a phsyco!
KuroToraWolf 3 years ago 4
cool, where did you get this?
AliceHale93 3 years ago
spazz much zira.. LMAo
L M A O
loverdots12 3 years ago
@vatoni12345678
That is unknown. Nobody knows that scar the father is from vitani and arnold. (except maybe disney)
LaSoeur 3 years ago
Er...Arnold? You mean Nuka, right? And it's so obvious that Nuka and Vitani are Scar's kids. I mean, they're both just as sly and evil as he is!
Well, Nuka's not so much on the 'sly' (cuz it takes brains to sly) but Nuka's just as hateful and power-hungry as Scar is.
GalaxiaStars 3 years ago
No
Scar is not Kovu's real father, but he's his step father.
Nuka is Scar's real son and Vitani is Scar's real daughter.
vatoni12345678 3 years ago 2
Exactly. Scar being Kovu's father would mean that he and Kiara were related, and linebreeding is just a little too weird for Disney I guess. =P
Rainstarhasastick 3 years ago
well, Simbas mom and Nala's mom are sisters I think.
khprincess 3 years ago
Don't think so... Sarabi and Serafina were never related, and if they were, it wasn't included in the movie. I don't think Serafina even ever had a line. =P
FireofSekhmet 3 years ago
No ? b/c simba & nala wouldnt of been able to qet married ....
yermomsahoe 3 years ago
no they were just really close friends
adictivemind 3 years ago 2
No, they weren't related. But think about this one for a minute: there are only two males in the entire pride. If Mufasa mated, Scar would have too. Since Mufasa is not the father of Nala, who is? Just look at those pretty green eyes of hers...and there is NOTHING in lion hierarchy that says cousins cannot mate. It's wrong in our society, but countless monarchies rely on blood relations to mary to keep it pure. Something to think about.
GrayzasGurl 2 years ago
Exactly. What YOU think. But why would they allow Simba and Nala to marry. tell me how this sounds:
Simba: Hey mom can i date my first cousin?
Sarabi: Sure honey
IHeartRenoFFVII1101 2 years ago
lolz
ragingtears007 2 years ago
but they're not related by blood.
IHeartRenoFFVII1101 2 years ago
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speak fucking english
harrietyyy 3 years ago
ya no this scene could have stoped a hole lotta confict do you no how many people i meet on u tube saying scar is his father and simba and kovu are cousins i even met a retard that said scar wasnt his father and true that may be they also said zira wasnt his mother and who the hell would think that y did they have to cut it out
charmedgurl001 3 years ago
The truth is that scar is really kovu´s real father..But zira is his REAL mother!^^
i support u!
XOzelinkOX 3 years ago
But that'll make them all cousins. it's wrong to date a cousin.
IHeartRenoFFVII1101 2 years ago
They are lions, c'mon xD
coolegozer112 2 years ago
sorry an error
edited:
The truth is that scar isn´t really kovu´s real father..But zira is his REAL mother!^^
i support u!
XOzelinkOX 3 years ago
AWESOME! Kovu looks awesome when he's pouncing. WHY THE HELL did they not keep this in the movie! It's an awesome scene.
CubKopa 3 years ago
This scene would had explained a lot too bad they cut it
BudgieBoss 3 years ago
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Those voices sound so pathetic
Dommonn 3 years ago
and so do you ^_~
IHeartRenoFFVII1101 2 years ago
i like this part.
LionKingErin 3 years ago 4
this is great faves
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well it sucks thank god they cut it
roosterrocks 3 years ago
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''but mother he wasnt hurting anyone''
Me:nananananana, whatever you are a carnivor.
kovu:.....
RyuuYareYare 3 years ago
I still like Zira's face! Great evil character!
Simbapedro 4 years ago 4
You think Zira's great, guess what her name means. Hate.
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DUH
sujinshin6291 3 years ago
I think these scenes were deleted bc the lion king is for young children, I mean I still watch it and you guys do and theres nothing wrong with that but its mainly for younger kids so that would kind of scare them or show them the wrong idea about being evil you know?
Poppachoo 4 years ago
more like time constraints.
itsokintheend 4 years ago
more like time constraints.
itsokintheend 4 years ago
yeh I agree
whatevergiirl 4 years ago
they shoulda kept this in
slylover123 4 years ago 2
Yeah I Agree With You Lot Great Vid Where Did You Get It ?
AltonTowers01 4 years ago
Dont Know I Have Had It Ages
bubblegumno1 3 years ago
They should have kept this scene, it would have explained alot of important things.
hmshockey 4 years ago 30
It would, wouldn't it. I agree.
LOLOLZ24 4 years ago 4
this should have been in the movie.
smoshlovingdragon 4 years ago 6
why was this scene deleted?
fatty24 4 years ago 2
Hahaha! Zira's face at 0:43 is hilarious!
Saraculture13 4 years ago 2
haha pause at zira's face at 0:43
mindfreakreality 4 years ago 2
LOL true! her mouth is wide open!
kairi292 4 years ago
Neat!
Oakmay 4 years ago
cool
pazankachok 4 years ago