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  • Kenpalmer: It was smooth as silk. Any closer that might of changed though.

  • I'll bet that flight was bumpy as hell!

  • 2 Words... Holy Shit

  • purty.

  • The training you refer to is simulated. It's impossible to gather significant experience flying a convective atmosphere during training simply because these conditions are not present enough. Train in Florida from spring through fall and you'll have a better chance. What's this 20, 000 hours before they get their own plane stuff? Give us all a break please!

  • Wind shear and downdrafts do pose a major threat. However, there is no data on any aircraft getting sucked into a storm at anything close to that distance.

  • I've heard that planes can get sucked into a thunderstorm if they are within 10 miles of one. Windshear and downdrafts pose a great risk as well.

  • cumulonimbus (CB) is a strong cloud o0

  • @pabloreatto Ah yes. I was just reminded of that yesterday!

  • @aerialpic i love this cloud

  • @themaxklm If I went into those clouds I wouldn't be around to post a video for you.

  • My 3rd flight with my instructor: had 9kt of full crosswind in a pa38(nothing much but for a nugget like me...) anyways I'm not scared of crosswind anymore. 6th flight: caught by surprise, storm cells were developing, inducing strong wind-shear, Instructor told me to fly the plane till we land, that's where I discovered what severe turbulence was ! Every 10seconds we went weightless for half a second. Now I fear Thunderstorms... But I no longer fear turbulence. I just tend to avoid them if i can

  • @raphy1123 Severe turbulence should be feared and can be encountered in sunny conditions twenty miles from certain thunderstorm types during certain life cycles. This video goes into detail on this from our own experience.

  • @aerialpic trust me I know, after experiencing maximum control inputs and still not having enough, and then the stress of windshear on short final... I did not have enough characters left to say that I no longer fear any turbulence that doesn't push you into your harness in any direction, and makes everything fly in the cockpit.

  • @aerialpic whats the song name its epic

  • @spider988 This is from the Smart sound library of royalty free editable music for video editors. I am unable to retrieve a name as I no longer have the original.

  • that was the intro, and where is the video?

  • @MultiKenny64 It's just a commercial. Video is available on the listed web site.

  • OMG...this is so amazing...!!!

  • Damn... If thats the case... then i learned alot more than most pilots do! LOL!

  • @robyh09 Sounds like you have some interesting stories!

  • Yep! Houston area does get their share of activity

  • Oh man... I live near Houston, TX. We have plenty of thunderstorms, I took drivers' ed during a week of "monsoon season" ... 5 days out of 7 it was pouring rain. 3 days of that it was pretty bad. I guess I'll get my storm training for flying if I stay here!

  • Learn to fly during the summer in Florida. You'll learn about thunderstorms VERY quickly, no matter what rating you're going for.

  • @soulbow I agree! For that reason most flight schools should be located there.

  • I would of had a panic attack

  • Im a ground storm chaser and wanna be pilot. I cant wait to get my copy just coz it looks like a fantastic video. I have also always wanted to charter a plane on a convective day. ill show this to my pilot the day before we go.

  • @supercellwish Well...I am an aerial storm chaser that wants to be a ground chaser!

  • Be sure to check out our other related videos. 

  • pilots with private pilot ratings are taught to avoid this sort of weather- they are only allowed to fly in vfr (visual flight rule) conditions. When you work on your instrument rating you are taught more indepth about weather. Not to mention the images you have in this video look upwards of 20,000 feet. VFR pilots are not permited at those altitudes.

  • @Saguaro24 This video exposes the inexperienced pilot to the hazards of severe weather through actual flights in severe thunderstorm-warned areas. It graphically conveys the decision making process of risk management aloft by taking the viewer on actual flights where severe weather threatens. Ground school doesn't teach what is in this production. All footage in this film was taken from altitudes below 12,000 feet where most private pilots fly. Even IFR training falls short on this topic.

  • @Saguaro24 No you don't fly in a T-storm like this period.

    In July, we had a major t storm in salt lake city UT, tower had all of us stay up in the air and fly in circles until it passed, then one by one we were able to land.

  • thats a load of shit. Students pilots pilots get taught nothing about storm avoidance?

  • @appleglory Sure they learn about storm avoidance. What's missing is real-time experience and visual examples. This is where our DVD takes over. Don't take my word though. Just read the testimonials on our web site.

  • Madness

  • Thank god for this. I never knew what those grey, black, horrifying 400ft monolithic, flashing clouds were before. Do you have a version for dummies, im a newbie you see.....

  • @JustLinkStudios  This qualifies. Easily understood by anyone who has a simple interest in flying and weather.

  • @JustLinkStudios

    400ft? Try closer to 40,000ft! Those things are massive, and getting in and out safety is something they don't cover in training, just how to recognize and avoid.

  • One must be an idiot to fly into a thunderstorm....

  • pixar up- "cumiulonimus."

  • WOW huge structure! wish i was there:D

  • true what you say. but the best thing to do when you identify that you are flying towards a storm....180 and go back

  • @aviator147

    Chapter two of our video has a scenario where the pilot does the 180 once it became obvious that there was no safe way to continue. Many storms only require a temporary change of course. This film covers what needs to be done to safely complete any flight in convective situations. It's all about information gathering, proper decision making, and risk management.

  • wow, das nenn ich mal ne wolke :-)

  • what a thunderstorm looks like.... A BIG ASS DARK CLOUD WITH BIG ASS FLASHES IN IT.

  • @popsticky09 If it were always that cut n' dry life aloft would be much safer.

  • @popsticky09 thunderclouds are white when viewed from the side or above :)

  • I feel like if youve done flight training in florida you def have had a run in with some pop up convection LOL i know i have!

  • Florida flight training definitely has that advantage.

  • Flying in the Southwest flying around Thunderstorms is the norm. Fortunately they are isolated and not clustered as they are on the East coast so its easy to steer around them.

  • You are correct. The midwest and east coast ares where the newly-licensed and uninitiated private pilot will learn be doing. Safely we hope. This is the purpose of creating this video. After viewing it you can say you've been there without having to experience the possible dangers of poor decision making.

  • air france... enough said

  • Its great to have people like you pressuring the importance of this scenario. From a fellow lover of aviation Thank you. It could save lives

  • We are not talking about a lack of textbook training. All schools offer that. Real-world scenarios of dealing with thunderstorms in flight is what this video is about. Unless you are fortunate enough to train in Florida or Arizona during monsoon season, you could easily become licensed without ever experiencing any of this.

  • I did my flight training in Tucson Arizona. So i guess i was one of the lucky ones to have these visuals during their monsoon season where thunder storms occurred every single afternoon. Embry Riddle Prescott AZ where I obtained my degree of applied science in aviation is a school that will give students this visual interaction. Hope you could throw them some love.

  • @Aviator1111 You are one of the lucky ones. Contact me through the e-mail link on our web site and I will send you a DVD. I appreciate your comments.

    Wayne

  • Convection aka(thunder storms) and icing are highly stressed to student pilots being that those two factors are extremely dangerous to small aircraft. They are given much instructing on how to deal with that. I'd love to know what flight school you're talkin about. As a CFII I should know. And to the Canadian I am an American its funny how the worlds flight rules refer to the stupid american system. Stick to hockey thats the only thing you guys got going for ya. No harsh feelings

  • @Aviator1111

    You are correct. It's the visuals that are lacking in training. The sign posts of pending problems aloft. Textbook drawings don't cut it in real-world flight scenarios. We take you on actual flights in severe warned areas to see for yourself what it's like. Tell me about a flight school that intentionally gives students this kind of experience and I will promote them on my next video and give you a free DVD..

  • Convection aka(thunder storms) and icing are highly stressed to student pilots being that those two factors are extremely dangerous to small aircraft. They are given much instructing on how to deal with that. I'd love to know what flight school you're talkin about. As a CFII I should know.

  • Completely agree.

  • @morbz

    The testimonials on our website (some of them ATP'S) and 100 percent customer satisfaction is my reply. Thank you for your comment. Fly safe.

  • What a load of rubbish! You learn about thunderstorms from PPL right up to ATPL, in fact its one of the things that gets covered the most in the whole of the met syllabus

  • Woah emm gee

  • That is one hell of a storm! Man, I was gobsmacked by that view! I love meteorology. Been reading and observing it since I was tiny.

  • what the hell are you talking about?? lol

    yes we learn the different cloud formations, the cold/warm fronts, everything there is to know about storms and weather systems. how to detect a severe storm ahead and avoid them. seriously come to canada...not only will u get health care...but a proper education lol

    now i gotta make sure my pilot or trainer isn't american...just another reason to ditch the americans haha sorry had to add that...no harsh feelings =)

  • umm, im taking my PPL and ground school, we have 9hrs of meteorology, i'm not sure what stupid school ur attending....

  • You are short one hour of meteorology then. The material in this DVD isn't in your course, not to mention the video examples. That's why this DVD was created. Go to the web site and see for yourself. The screen shots are proof.

  • To Me it's a supercell look at the top of the storm cell it's avil shaped trust me it's a supercell

  • You are correct. I didn't know it at the time but it was producing an EF2 tornado as I was flying by!

  • Thanksfor telllin' me i was correct i learned about it in "Meteorology" School

    Just kidding! :)

  • thANK YOU!

  • The anvil doesn't indcate that it's a supercell as rotation is necessary for it to be a supercell. Rotation can only be seen in the lower to mid levels of a T-storm. Anvils can also be observed on your typical summer thunderstorm.

  • Hearing lighting over the radio while flying sends chills down my spine.

  • Its a really loud crackle.

  • where do i buy this? im working on my instrument know and during my private i found myself hitting some severe weather on my 2nd solo xc i almost freaked out to the point of insanity lol

  • Please visit the web site listed on this video.

  • i did and found a contact number. i called and still havent had my call returned.

  • We apologize for that. We do return all calls we receive.

  • And then you have the divergent winds in and near the CBs - nope. Wouldn't attempt, if I knew how to fly (and I don't).

  • This was the cause of AF447. Imagine this thunderstorm... but at night. They were flying direct to the hell.

  • Controllers can help guide you around areas of precip but they can't see maturing cells unless they are producing rain. Rapidy building convection will often produce lightning before it produces rain for a return echo. You found this out first hand. Thank you for sharing that with us!

  • Flyin from Hatteras back to the mainland, mainland obscured by what i think is haze

    Me: Cherry Point App, is there any convective activity (along my route of flight)?

    Cherry Pt.: Few small cells in Central N.C. but nothing near you

    Me: Roger, thanks.

    2 minutes later, lighting strikes 2 miles ahead, initiated IMMIDIATE DIVERSION. 1 minute after that, lightning strikes so close all you see is a bright flash

    My fault really, but I'll never trust App control for wx info the same again

  • nearly flew dead center into a thunderstorm once in a 172. its hard to tell sometimes from lower altitudes until you see lightning all across your flight path...but thats a long and rather humourous story.....

  • Do tell my friend, do tell...

  • HOLY SHIT! id ask for my mum for a clean pair of underwear at tht point ...HELL NO

  • if you went through them clouds you wouldnt come out the other side!

    Any real life pilot would stay away from them clouds at any cost. They fear their lives and the lives of thier passengers.

  • In real life as you mention, pilots on IFR flight plans aren't always in areas clear of clouds. In real life, haze reduces how far one can see allowing one to get dangerously close to severe thunderstorms if other storm detection methods aren't utilized. If all storms were this easy to see, life would be very good for the flyer...

  • I found in wet seasons that the haze is kept on the ground alot more due to the heavier moist air not allowing it to rise. So when theres storms where I live, there is generally alot less / no haze. But most of our haze in Australia comes from the bush fire smoke.

  • You have to be at least 16 to get a student pilot license (FAR 61.83). I'm pretty sure it is also against the FARs to have your airplane be affected by a thunderstorm. Thunderstorms can reach over FL600, most planes won't be able to fly over them. If a private pilot is approaching a thunderstorm, they should know assuming they aren't instrument rated, and if its at night, the flashing bolts of lightning may be a clue.

  • In canada you have to be at least 14 years old ... :D

  • Pilots are trained to avoid flying through heavy clouds since storms are most likely in that part. They normally fly 38000 feet above ground since usually that height is cloudless, very clear. Plus the air traffic controller tells them when approaching thunderstorm. Pilots are so well trained

  • Most pilots are well trained but sorry to say, not all. Accident statistics convey thunderstorm related losses every year due to poor pilot planning and decision making. Some of this is the fault of the training system, hence the purpose of this film. Not sure where you get that 38'000 foot figure. Commercial airliners fly everything between 18,000 through 40,000 ft plus. Most private pilots can't reach anything close to those altitudes. Your thoughts were appreciated. Thanks for sharing!

  • yeah i made that bad mistake... I was training for my prop liscence, and I had to do a solo, and whoops, went through a thunderstorm. I was flying a Cessna 172 and believe me, when you're only 13 yrs. of age, that is a scary thing

  • Dude! I can't believe your story as nobody is allowed to solo at 13.

  • odd because i did so either instructor error or you live in a different part of the country.

  • Bullshit, fly solo at 13? When you give us shit, make it convincing please. You can't even get driving license until you're 16. You'll surprise your driving examiner when you tell him you're a licence pilot....my ass.

  • "fact most pilots lern how to fly"

    i hope so :)

  • Me too mate!

  • I've been in a thunderstorm in a plane. I was about 5, luckily I was so short I couldn't see out the window, therefor i could'nt see what was happening :P

  • Excellent footage!

  • Great video footage!

  • Well considering a student pilot is a pilot that just has a Medical, you would only be able to fly VFR and if you were heading in the direction of something like this you would be able to see that conditions would exceed VFR limitations. Plus I doubt a student pilot would be able to get above the ceiling to actually see that part of a storm.

  • In most cases, the weather remains VFR til you are in the storm itself. That is if you are flying below cloud base level. Students do fly when there's isolated or spotty convective activity. If your instructor won't allow flying in what is considered normal summer flying weather, then you are missing out on an important learning experience.

    Adding a little extra time to your trip to climb high is well worth the ability to see seventy miles ahead, verses seven in haze. Safety is your choice.

  • With all due respects, all commercial flights are filed IFR, so that eliminates the headache of having to file in the air under such circumstances. You simply never know, going so far a distance in comparison to a small aircraft. And for those who don't know, "VFR-On-Top" flight plans are prohibited.

  • This would be true if thunderstorms were created equal and always in the same flight conditions. Take the same thunderstorm you just viewed for instance. Those images were shot from 11,000 feet. The same thunderstorm viewed from 3,000 feet at the same distance wouldn't be recognized as a threat unless you were already dangerously close. Convection Connection deals with this very scenario.

  • talk about on the job training! I am guessing after their first storm they would learn what one looks like fairly quickly!

  • convection connection, "finally!"

    now i won't as many reports of plane crashes! lol

  • "Finally"! That's what I said after taking three years to make this film...

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