Other than the fact that it looks all wrong, it looks spot on. 6 buttons on the right = A, B, and the 4 C buttons. 3 handles, joystick, centered start button, and unnecessary D-pad. Pretty cool, actually.
The analog stick in that picture looks a lot better than the one that was released on the actual controller. It doesn't look like it would break so easily.
I remember a picture of this controller appearing in mid 90's edition of Australian Nintendo Magazine System, except it was black. I remember thinking "I hope the real Ultra 64 controller is made properly!"
@coneyislanddiscomark yeah with a 25 kb's download rate ahah maybe 56 kb's took like a day to download the video and I remember internet was billed on time spent online so a day for a video was like half of your month limit lol
The predecessor to the internet, ARPAnet, was around in 1969. Public access to the internet started taking off in 1989, and it was around 1995 that it became a common thing.
Nintendo, please explain to me what the hell went wrong with this design? Oh, right, yeah, you was jocking off the Sega Saturn 3D controller, so you deliberately turned it into a steaming pile of shit to stop anyone from getting suspicious.
When are these companies going to learn that the only people who care about companies stealing from eachother are corporate cheerleaders? Maybe the numbers of which, are more prevalent than I thought.
The Ultra 64/prototype N64 controller looks surpsingly like a SNES controller, with added buttons and three handles (to give it more of an N64 shape). Neat.
"Nintendo doesn't have a lot of arcade experience."
Are you freakin' kidding me? How were these morons employeed? Had they never heard of Donkey Kong? Mario Bros? Super Mario Bros? Punch-Out!? NES Play Choice? Super Play Choice? Heck, they even just got finished calling Killer Instinct a "Smash Hit!"
KI2 WAS released in arcades 1st. Also, N64's KI Gold didn't quite make the US launch, though it did make the pre-Christmas "launch window."
@CZroe ...Balloon Fight, Popeye, Radar Scope, Arm Wrestling, Donkey Kong 1/2/3, Mappyland, Cruisin USA, Killer Instinct 1...there are a lot of HUGE HITS in there.
@CZroe um first of all KI isn't made by nintendo, second of all donkey kong and thats it. the rest of those games were NES games and so is the play choice machine.... that doesn't count as arcade experience in the sense of say capcom or sega's arcade experience.... you have to think of the era the show was made. back then arcades still existed and none were filled with nintendo machines.
@MrDebauch It was made WITH Nintendo. It wouldn't exist w/o Nintendo. Nintendo's logos are more prominent than Rare's both in-game and on the cabinet and the hardware was meant to be a precursor to the N64. Also, you are a complete MORON if you think Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros, Popeye, etc were NES games before they were arcade games (NOT PlayChoice games). The NES' success was partially because it brought these hits home. Arcades were filled w/ Nintendo classics. "Punch-Out!" != "Punch-Out!!"
@CZroe yeah so even if any that meant shit... that still didn't count as experience when put next to like I mentioned, sega, capcom, namco, need I continue? even if you walk into an arcade today you simply dont see anything made by nintendo in them except possibly mario kart which even that is not common. Sorry buddy, nintendo had one game... donkey kong... and you haven't seen those in arcades in over 20 years.
@MrDebauch Are you kidding me? Capcom arcade presence was still pretty much only SFII variants back then. Sega had a larger presence but not when Nintendo was dominating arcades in the '80s. So, what exactly is your point? That Nintendo has no arcade experience just because some companies have more? That's ludicrous. Nintendo was MILES ahead of Sega and Capcom in 1985 when the NES launched. If you still want to make your point, you DO need to continue. Every *real* arcade has Nintendo titles.
@CZroe yeah exactly, nintendo has no arcade experience in comparison to.. hmm.. midway, capcom, namco, snk, sega, etc... nintendo may have been miles ahead when the nes launched in 85, but we are not talking about 85... and we are not talking about NES... we are talking about out of games seen in most arcades nintendo is not seen really while you still see all the arcade staples today, SF for example.. capcom had sf varients, who else can do that? also final fight, etc.
@MrDebauch OK, so Ninty had "no" experience & yet Midway came to 'em for Cruisin' hardware & Namco/Sega came for the Tri-Force platform? No. They focused on a console & cooperated in the arcades instead of competing. They were dominating before so it had to do w/what was more profitable not w/them "losing." They smartly focused on the NES making it a huge success. Ninty had variants (vs, Super) while Capcom didn't. 10yrs later Cap was then all about pathetic SFII variants & they rose from there.
@CZroe dont start calling SF2 pathetic just because we are disagreeing... SF2 variants were great, and they still hold sf2 tournaments to this day. You may think it is pathetic, but that is your opinion... it may be pathetic if they kept releasing them and they didn't do well... which is not the case. either way, in my experience nintendo didn't have the dominance in our arcades that capcom and sega had... no way in hell. withdrew or not our arcades weren't 25% nintendo games in '95.
@MrDebauch At the time, Capcom's fighter market was still just SFII variants including and the SF movie game. I wasn't insulting SFII. I was saying that it WAS pathetic that they had not actually made a true sequel or prequel. All gamers felt that way then. Capcom was only "dominating" their own sub-genre then for which there was little to compete.
@CZroe first of all the SF the movie game was SF2 with a different look.. and it came out in what? 96-97? a prequel? well there was an original street fighter but it wasn't that good, a prequel... might be neat. the sf variants had added characters which is all that is needed in a fighting game... should they have changed the story line? And final fight was another huge game which is not a vs fighting game, dont forget back then beat em ups were popular since double dragon.
@MrDebauch That's exactly what I said. SFII vairants "including" the SF Movie game. Also, it was 1995 (movie was 1994).
FYI, SF Zero/Alpha was a prequel. It didn't exist then.
The SFII variants did add characters and greatly modified the story for existing charaters, like having Akuma as the main antagonist instead of M.Bison.
@CZroe Well, SF Alpha came out in late 1995 but it didn't spread in the States and far outside of Japan until 1996. That's also when they released the CPS Changer version.
@CZroe well yes in super you do have akuma as the boss, and bison was a good playable character... plus the turbo settings... story lines did exist but were barely a reason to be playing the game, street fighter is not an RPG... it is not played for the story line or series of terrible movies to get released. I will say though, during the early and mid 90's SF2, final fight, tmnt, simpsons, xmen arcade... those were seen... punch out, mario bros, and popeye were not. I didn't invent history.
"I will say though, during the early and mid 90's SF2, final fight, tmnt, simpsons, xmen arcade... those were seen... " TMNT and Simpsons were Konami...right?
"punch out, mario bros, and popeye were not."
I'd have to say that's incorrect. "New releases" were always at the front. If you go to the back you'd find at least 2 or 3 Nintendo machines. This was true of every real arcade I visited in the 90's (my first was '95).
@jevansturner yes those were konami, I believe so was the big xmen arcade machine.. if I remember correct. Anyways I wasn't saying you would never see nintendo in arcades... you did on occasion see DK which at that point was over a decade old.. it was nintendo's biggest hit in the arcades. but come on, nintendo didn't put out a quarter of the amount of games in arcades that capcom alone put out, never mind midway, sega, namco, etc.. on top of that...golden tee golf was the most played ever lol
@CZroe okay sure popeye was one of the early nintendo console games... who has ever played that in an arcade? hmm.. sure the original "pow" mario bros was an arcade game, but who ever played super mario bros (mario1) in the arcade? come on, there is a difference between the game simply existing and it meaning something in the arcade world. You are an idiot if you didn't get what the guy meant in the video... nintendo didn't mean shit in arcades.
@MrDebauch Popeye was an arcade hit, as was Mario Bros. Nintendo meant much more than Sega or Capcom in the 80s still meant a lot at the time of that video. In fact, they were making a huge come-back since early 1995 with Cruisin' USA, Killer Instinct 1&2. Any REAL arcade when that video was made had Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, AND Mario Bros. Most had Punch-Out! and Super Mario Bros. Even today, it's easy to find Cruisin' or a KI game in the real arcades (not a bowling alley w/less than 15 machines).
@CZroe well today arcades dont really exist here in north america... but honestly, KI was barely a hit in the arcade fighter world... sure the game was awesome and super on the SNES, but where is it today? when is the last time you've seen a KI machine regularly? Funny, cause you want to talk mid 90's fighters you still see every other fighter from that era in arcades. Anyways, point is, nintendo was a "has been" in arcades when that video was made. They weren't dominating the arcades.
@MrDebauch I know of several places but that's mostly because I seek it out.
So no longer being dominant & being a "has been" = no experience? Notice: That video was 15 years ago. Nintendo was still a huge arcade presence 8-10 years before that...more so than Capcom or Sega. It's like saying Sega has no console experience because their last console was released in 1999. It's just silly, wrong, & indefensible and they said it in response to wrongly thinking KI2 was direct to N64 and not arcade.
@CZroe okay let's agree to disagree, you think nintendo has more experience in the arcade realm then capcom and sega... I do not. maybe your arcades were different then ours locally, but honestly... out of arcades that housed over 100 machines here you would be lucky to see a donkey kong machine or even a KI machine where as there was an abundance of sega and capcom machines, midway, etc... even namco when it comes to retro machines. The show is circa '95 and I live in canada and saw it.
@MrDebauch I didn't say that. The video was made in '95 but such a statement requires a 2000-2010 perspective. Capcom was still mired in SFII variants and Nintendo's experience was more recent then than Sega's console experience today. Capcom had not yet exploded into the huge arcade presence they would have by the end of the '90s. Donkey Kong is almost as common as Pac-Man (possibly more so). I find it alone far more often than I find any Capcom or Sega game (gas stations, laundrymat, etc).
@CZroe really? here you are WAY more likely to see a sf2 machine or an MK2 machine in a gas station or laundry mat then a DK machine... or pacman, however pacman/galaga combo machines were popular. But again, pacman being a namco classic was still more commonly seen then DK up here. Oh and by the way, sf2 and final fight were huge way before the end of the 90's... by the end of the 90's our hype was MvC, 3rd strike, tekken 3, ultimate 3, need I go on?
@MrDebauch Pac-Man/Galaga machines didn't exist in 1995. They are new.
And that's exactly what I was saying. In 1995, they had one major hit (SFII) with a few minor hits. It wasn't until after '95 that they exploded, so you can't use that context to justify the incorrect statement in the video. Even if Capcom was huge in 1995, to imply that it somehow detracts from Nintendo's experience is just silly.
@CZroe um if you didn't consider final fight a major hit you have never been inside an arcade during that era period... point is, it is fact that nintendo was nothing in arcades compared to capcom or sega or midway in '95... when that video was made the biggest thing nintendo did up until that point in arcades was DK, which in the mid 90's was completely overshadowed.... as was every other golden era game for the most part.
@MrDebauch Any time I find a place with 8 or more machines, it's almost sure to have both Donkey Kong and KI. Often there are other Nintendo titles like Mario Bros. Some even have Punch Out! (not the same game as the NES version). Nintendo was as big a contender as anyone else for as long as they cared to compete. They didn't get pushed out either. They just followed the money when the consoles were successful. It's ignorant to pick a narrow time window and claim that nothing else matters.
@jevansturner really? that is different then my experience. I find it a treat to find a donkey kong or a KI machine in a side of the road stop... nintendo didn't hold nearly that much arcade real estate in the arcades I played at... 2-4 games out of 8? that is 25 to 50 % of the games being nintendo? that wasn't the case anywhere I have been.
@MrDebauch Killer Instinct 1, 2, and Gold were fully published and distributed by Nintendo for Nintendo with Rareware as a second-party developer... unlike their later N64 games that were "Published by Rare." Nintendo championed the hardware and worked w/Rare to develop the game (watch the secret end of the Donkey Kong Country preview video to see the Nintendo of America Treehouse crew including Armond Williams & Ken Lobb working on a very early version of the game). If you don't know, shut up.
@MrDebauch Would you say that Metroid Prime isn't by Nintendo?
At the time of KI, Rare was basically a Nintendo studio. Nintendo has both internal development "houses" (HAL, EAD, Intelligent Systems) and foreign studios (Retro Studios, Rare). After Donkey Kong Country, Nintendo owned most of Rare and it operated as Nintendo's European studio.
Similarly, 2K Games and Rockstar have studios around the world.
Games developed by the internal group known as "Team Ninja" are still Tecmo games, no?
@jevansturner okay, so are you with the other guy on saying that nintendo has more arcade experience then capcom and sega or something? Sorry, I thought rare was entirely responsible for KI and didn't realize nintendo has so much involvement with the series.. either way, KI was huge on the SNES, and not that huge in arcades... notice though that street fighter 2 was so huge in arcades that they ported it to every single console and they still port it to every new console today.
@MrDebauch I would say that Nintendo had more arcade experience than Sega or Capcom until Nintendo mostly abandoned the arcades and Sega / Capcom kept on producing them. During that period (before Nintendo re-entered with KI), Sega had some real turds like Time Traveler / Holosseum. After the financial successes of SF and MK, Nintendo saw dollar signs and made a HUGE hit with KI.
I don't know about Canada, but the KI machine was the only one that ever had a line in GA. KI2 was the same.
@MrDebauch Of course they ported SF to every console, because Capcom would make more money by selling more units. Nintendo would make their title exclusive to their own platform so it would sell more systems. Then Nintendo would make money from every title you bought for that system (Nintendo-developed or not). KI could have been a bigger franchise if it was allowed to be multi-platform, but that wouldn't make sense for Nintendo because Nintendo's games would help to sell competitors' platforms.
@jevansturner of course they could port to every system... and it sold well on every system due to it's arcade popularity. SF2 is the reason fighters became so popular. of course capcom ported it to make money... and as we now know... they did make money because the game was huge.
@MrDebauch KI couldn't be ported to a non-Nintendo console because Rare was a second-party Nintendo developer, so there is no comparison. If anyone thinks that the Treehouse video was just NoA testing, consider that Nintendo's own Ken Lobb provided the voice for Chief Thunder and named his moves (Samamish was a lake nearby named for an Indian tribe).
@snkjack Yeah. It's much better for arcade fighters in particular and the way Nintendo implement it it even worked like another set of axes when a game design needed it (no dual analog, remember?).
The guy pretty much nailed it, aside from the button and grip designs and the shoulder buttons. Probably not the Z either, but very accurate prediction, or concept.
Is the artist stupid or somthin why dose it look like the super nintendo controller? I didn't look like SNES controller did it? PS. I take that back About artist.
@deltafreelancer No. It ripped off each of the competition's innovations. Even before the DualShock, they copied shoulder buttons and doubled them. After N64, they copied force feedback and doubled it and analog. They just stuck analog where it would fit and doubled it to balance the design, which is inferior. That's why no other dual analog controller ever put them down there until the Wii's "classic" controller
actually, it's really close, only thing I have to say is, if Nintendo was making an "ULTRA" 64, why the hell didn't the artist make a more "ULTRA" controller. I mean, he obviously saw a prototype to be that close, but wtf, thats one ugly piece of shit. Nintendo is not stupid, they want their stuff to look good, and that defiantly, DOES NOT LOOK GOOD!!
Screw the Ultra 64 controller, there are more important things in this clip! Why would that bald man have such a small noose with him? You wanna know why? I'LL TELL YOU WHY! That bastard's been hanging fairies!
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back in the day people were obsessed with the number of bits a system was capable of processing. NES was 8bit, SNES was 16bit, SEGACD was considered 32bit, and N64 claimed to be 64bit. Now people don't really talk about it because there's a lot more to a system than just bits.
Did that guy really just say Nin didn't have a lot of arcade experience? So, the fact Donkey Kong, Mario Brothers, Punch-Out and more than 20 other arcade games came out before the started the NES mean nothing? Bloody hosier like that make me feel embarrassed for my old home and ancestry.
Other than the fact that it looks all wrong, it looks spot on. 6 buttons on the right = A, B, and the 4 C buttons. 3 handles, joystick, centered start button, and unnecessary D-pad. Pretty cool, actually.
PuppetAttack 1 month ago
far out. RADICAL !
joelcr250 1 month ago
0.11 a mouse is gunna get hang :o
videogamepimp22 2 months ago
that was fugly!
lol
allanmhanson 4 months ago
It looks like they told them what it looked like through the phone.
mast3rsword64 5 months ago 4
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nintendo controllers have always BEAN leading edge
Thoraxe555 5 months ago
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Thoraxe555 5 months ago
Dying «holds up noose» this is not PC nowadays
alexwilsonNC 5 months ago
hm...looks like someone was PAID to say good things about that weird controller
ksioamaral89 5 months ago
That was a blue man before the blues.
80ynniv 5 months ago
lol the analog slick looks like balls while the middle handle looks like a penis!
noideac 6 months ago
The analog stick in that picture looks a lot better than the one that was released on the actual controller. It doesn't look like it would break so easily.
TheFatty2497 6 months ago
Miyamoto forgot the original design in the microwaver
almerylc128 6 months ago
Zack Morris understudy? xD
phillyflopper 6 months ago
damn people used to be really dumb.....
bounty2444 7 months ago
LOL its a SNES controller with a rounded thingy lol
metroidfan 7 months ago
because if nintendo was know for something back then it was for flight sims
virusalert996 7 months ago 2
Looks like some insane cross of the godly FC/SNES with the simple to use MD/Gen gamepad plus the final N64 gamepad.
Holy cow...
MegaManNeo 7 months ago
is this out yet....looks pretty rad dude ...i cant wait to have it and be all like....tubular
dimmufan88 7 months ago
the fuck is up with the mini noose?
waxthenip512 7 months ago
@waxthenip512 because people are just DYING to see what the new controller would look like
PapaLuigi9003 7 months ago
That analog stick looks more comfortable then the one that the N64 controller uses now.
Scarlet1992Kille 8 months ago
It's fake
Cubington 8 months ago
I remember a picture of this controller appearing in mid 90's edition of Australian Nintendo Magazine System, except it was black. I remember thinking "I hope the real Ultra 64 controller is made properly!"
ezri85 8 months ago
That controller looks scary.
thecherryboo1 9 months ago
First version of photoshop?
iliketrainsand3ds 9 months ago
They had the internet in 1995?!?!?!
coneyislanddiscomark 11 months ago
@coneyislanddiscomark yeah with a 25 kb's download rate ahah maybe 56 kb's took like a day to download the video and I remember internet was billed on time spent online so a day for a video was like half of your month limit lol
n0ledge 10 months ago
@n0ledge Goddamn that sucks. I remember the first time I ever met someone who had the internet was in 1999. I had never heard of it before then.
coneyislanddiscomark 10 months ago
@coneyislanddiscomark
The predecessor to the internet, ARPAnet, was around in 1969. Public access to the internet started taking off in 1989, and it was around 1995 that it became a common thing.
Draknfyre 7 months ago
a snes controller whit penis O.O!!
FLHilde 11 months ago
lol crazy ass candiandas
Rp707 11 months ago
colors colors colors!!!
miguelthegamer 1 year ago
IGN was called intellegent gamers online? i never knew that....
MXvsATV3DS 1 year ago 34
@MXvsATV3DS
No.... They were Imagination Games Network
CyanProductions 10 months ago
@MXvsATV3DS
International Gamers Network.
Draknfyre 7 months ago
@MXvsATV3DS Just a shame that name's no longer relevant.
Branimations 6 months ago
@MXvsATV3DS It's not. Check wikipedia. IGN was founded after this video was shot, and the 2 are not related.
AmateurDrumCovers 3 months ago
@MXvsATV3DS could of fooled me thought it was ignorant gamers
MegaKratos234 1 month ago
Werid... he got some of the features right...
Website is dead though
Nazrat84 1 year ago
LOL that dude on the Tv is trying to look like max headroom!!!
bliglum 1 year ago
Nintendo, please explain to me what the hell went wrong with this design? Oh, right, yeah, you was jocking off the Sega Saturn 3D controller, so you deliberately turned it into a steaming pile of shit to stop anyone from getting suspicious.
When are these companies going to learn that the only people who care about companies stealing from eachother are corporate cheerleaders? Maybe the numbers of which, are more prevalent than I thought.
strykah92 1 year ago
NINTENDO 64 IS FUCKING GAY! SURENOS 13 POR VIDA HOLMES! BUY A PS3 FAGGOTS
greeneyes97402 1 year ago
@greeneyes97402 If you think it's gay, why did you even watch the vid?
BowserKoopaFTW 11 months ago
this is beutiful
in the most ironic way
qwertlolo 1 year ago
LOL XD The controller is look likes to the SNES Controller
SuperWiiBros08 1 year ago
If only Star fox was in the arcades.....if only.
StephensStuff 1 year ago
These presenters are totally hip. I can really relate to them.
DeviousTelevision 1 year ago 37
haha looks stupid but cool
thcsabinad 1 year ago
imma see the site
MrRobloMan 1 year ago
Haha it will have this handle in the middle! Wow, that was like the only accurate part.
dalejrfan800 1 year ago
that thing is fucking ugly lol
GodHandFilms 1 year ago
The Ultra 64/prototype N64 controller looks surpsingly like a SNES controller, with added buttons and three handles (to give it more of an N64 shape). Neat.
TheActionGameMaster 1 year ago
it makes sense. i remember reading somewhere that when they were making mario 64 they were using modified snes controllers.
MARIOFANATIC64 1 year ago
The button layout was actually spot-on, but why did they have to make it look like an SNES controller with a hernia?
SergeantLuke 1 year ago
WTF
xzoshuax 1 year ago
@ElBurrotheDiablo666 Nope. You are confusing it with the Atari Jaguar. The N64 did have a 64bit CPU.
CZroe 1 year ago
"Nintendo doesn't have a lot of arcade experience."
Are you freakin' kidding me? How were these morons employeed? Had they never heard of Donkey Kong? Mario Bros? Super Mario Bros? Punch-Out!? NES Play Choice? Super Play Choice? Heck, they even just got finished calling Killer Instinct a "Smash Hit!"
KI2 WAS released in arcades 1st. Also, N64's KI Gold didn't quite make the US launch, though it did make the pre-Christmas "launch window."
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe ...Balloon Fight, Popeye, Radar Scope, Arm Wrestling, Donkey Kong 1/2/3, Mappyland, Cruisin USA, Killer Instinct 1...there are a lot of HUGE HITS in there.
jevansturner 1 year ago
@CZroe um first of all KI isn't made by nintendo, second of all donkey kong and thats it. the rest of those games were NES games and so is the play choice machine.... that doesn't count as arcade experience in the sense of say capcom or sega's arcade experience.... you have to think of the era the show was made. back then arcades still existed and none were filled with nintendo machines.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch It was made WITH Nintendo. It wouldn't exist w/o Nintendo. Nintendo's logos are more prominent than Rare's both in-game and on the cabinet and the hardware was meant to be a precursor to the N64. Also, you are a complete MORON if you think Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros, Popeye, etc were NES games before they were arcade games (NOT PlayChoice games). The NES' success was partially because it brought these hits home. Arcades were filled w/ Nintendo classics. "Punch-Out!" != "Punch-Out!!"
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe yeah so even if any that meant shit... that still didn't count as experience when put next to like I mentioned, sega, capcom, namco, need I continue? even if you walk into an arcade today you simply dont see anything made by nintendo in them except possibly mario kart which even that is not common. Sorry buddy, nintendo had one game... donkey kong... and you haven't seen those in arcades in over 20 years.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch Are you kidding me? Capcom arcade presence was still pretty much only SFII variants back then. Sega had a larger presence but not when Nintendo was dominating arcades in the '80s. So, what exactly is your point? That Nintendo has no arcade experience just because some companies have more? That's ludicrous. Nintendo was MILES ahead of Sega and Capcom in 1985 when the NES launched. If you still want to make your point, you DO need to continue. Every *real* arcade has Nintendo titles.
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe yeah exactly, nintendo has no arcade experience in comparison to.. hmm.. midway, capcom, namco, snk, sega, etc... nintendo may have been miles ahead when the nes launched in 85, but we are not talking about 85... and we are not talking about NES... we are talking about out of games seen in most arcades nintendo is not seen really while you still see all the arcade staples today, SF for example.. capcom had sf varients, who else can do that? also final fight, etc.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch OK, so Ninty had "no" experience & yet Midway came to 'em for Cruisin' hardware & Namco/Sega came for the Tri-Force platform? No. They focused on a console & cooperated in the arcades instead of competing. They were dominating before so it had to do w/what was more profitable not w/them "losing." They smartly focused on the NES making it a huge success. Ninty had variants (vs, Super) while Capcom didn't. 10yrs later Cap was then all about pathetic SFII variants & they rose from there.
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe dont start calling SF2 pathetic just because we are disagreeing... SF2 variants were great, and they still hold sf2 tournaments to this day. You may think it is pathetic, but that is your opinion... it may be pathetic if they kept releasing them and they didn't do well... which is not the case. either way, in my experience nintendo didn't have the dominance in our arcades that capcom and sega had... no way in hell. withdrew or not our arcades weren't 25% nintendo games in '95.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch At the time, Capcom's fighter market was still just SFII variants including and the SF movie game. I wasn't insulting SFII. I was saying that it WAS pathetic that they had not actually made a true sequel or prequel. All gamers felt that way then. Capcom was only "dominating" their own sub-genre then for which there was little to compete.
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe first of all the SF the movie game was SF2 with a different look.. and it came out in what? 96-97? a prequel? well there was an original street fighter but it wasn't that good, a prequel... might be neat. the sf variants had added characters which is all that is needed in a fighting game... should they have changed the story line? And final fight was another huge game which is not a vs fighting game, dont forget back then beat em ups were popular since double dragon.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch That's exactly what I said. SFII vairants "including" the SF Movie game. Also, it was 1995 (movie was 1994).
FYI, SF Zero/Alpha was a prequel. It didn't exist then.
The SFII variants did add characters and greatly modified the story for existing charaters, like having Akuma as the main antagonist instead of M.Bison.
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe Well, SF Alpha came out in late 1995 but it didn't spread in the States and far outside of Japan until 1996. That's also when they released the CPS Changer version.
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe well yes in super you do have akuma as the boss, and bison was a good playable character... plus the turbo settings... story lines did exist but were barely a reason to be playing the game, street fighter is not an RPG... it is not played for the story line or series of terrible movies to get released. I will say though, during the early and mid 90's SF2, final fight, tmnt, simpsons, xmen arcade... those were seen... punch out, mario bros, and popeye were not. I didn't invent history.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch
"I will say though, during the early and mid 90's SF2, final fight, tmnt, simpsons, xmen arcade... those were seen... " TMNT and Simpsons were Konami...right?
"punch out, mario bros, and popeye were not."
I'd have to say that's incorrect. "New releases" were always at the front. If you go to the back you'd find at least 2 or 3 Nintendo machines. This was true of every real arcade I visited in the 90's (my first was '95).
jevansturner 1 year ago
@jevansturner yes those were konami, I believe so was the big xmen arcade machine.. if I remember correct. Anyways I wasn't saying you would never see nintendo in arcades... you did on occasion see DK which at that point was over a decade old.. it was nintendo's biggest hit in the arcades. but come on, nintendo didn't put out a quarter of the amount of games in arcades that capcom alone put out, never mind midway, sega, namco, etc.. on top of that...golden tee golf was the most played ever lol
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@CZroe okay sure popeye was one of the early nintendo console games... who has ever played that in an arcade? hmm.. sure the original "pow" mario bros was an arcade game, but who ever played super mario bros (mario1) in the arcade? come on, there is a difference between the game simply existing and it meaning something in the arcade world. You are an idiot if you didn't get what the guy meant in the video... nintendo didn't mean shit in arcades.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch Popeye was an arcade hit, as was Mario Bros. Nintendo meant much more than Sega or Capcom in the 80s still meant a lot at the time of that video. In fact, they were making a huge come-back since early 1995 with Cruisin' USA, Killer Instinct 1&2. Any REAL arcade when that video was made had Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, AND Mario Bros. Most had Punch-Out! and Super Mario Bros. Even today, it's easy to find Cruisin' or a KI game in the real arcades (not a bowling alley w/less than 15 machines).
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe well today arcades dont really exist here in north america... but honestly, KI was barely a hit in the arcade fighter world... sure the game was awesome and super on the SNES, but where is it today? when is the last time you've seen a KI machine regularly? Funny, cause you want to talk mid 90's fighters you still see every other fighter from that era in arcades. Anyways, point is, nintendo was a "has been" in arcades when that video was made. They weren't dominating the arcades.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch I know of several places but that's mostly because I seek it out.
So no longer being dominant & being a "has been" = no experience? Notice: That video was 15 years ago. Nintendo was still a huge arcade presence 8-10 years before that...more so than Capcom or Sega. It's like saying Sega has no console experience because their last console was released in 1999. It's just silly, wrong, & indefensible and they said it in response to wrongly thinking KI2 was direct to N64 and not arcade.
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe okay let's agree to disagree, you think nintendo has more experience in the arcade realm then capcom and sega... I do not. maybe your arcades were different then ours locally, but honestly... out of arcades that housed over 100 machines here you would be lucky to see a donkey kong machine or even a KI machine where as there was an abundance of sega and capcom machines, midway, etc... even namco when it comes to retro machines. The show is circa '95 and I live in canada and saw it.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch I didn't say that. The video was made in '95 but such a statement requires a 2000-2010 perspective. Capcom was still mired in SFII variants and Nintendo's experience was more recent then than Sega's console experience today. Capcom had not yet exploded into the huge arcade presence they would have by the end of the '90s. Donkey Kong is almost as common as Pac-Man (possibly more so). I find it alone far more often than I find any Capcom or Sega game (gas stations, laundrymat, etc).
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe really? here you are WAY more likely to see a sf2 machine or an MK2 machine in a gas station or laundry mat then a DK machine... or pacman, however pacman/galaga combo machines were popular. But again, pacman being a namco classic was still more commonly seen then DK up here. Oh and by the way, sf2 and final fight were huge way before the end of the 90's... by the end of the 90's our hype was MvC, 3rd strike, tekken 3, ultimate 3, need I go on?
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch Pac-Man/Galaga machines didn't exist in 1995. They are new.
And that's exactly what I was saying. In 1995, they had one major hit (SFII) with a few minor hits. It wasn't until after '95 that they exploded, so you can't use that context to justify the incorrect statement in the video. Even if Capcom was huge in 1995, to imply that it somehow detracts from Nintendo's experience is just silly.
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe um if you didn't consider final fight a major hit you have never been inside an arcade during that era period... point is, it is fact that nintendo was nothing in arcades compared to capcom or sega or midway in '95... when that video was made the biggest thing nintendo did up until that point in arcades was DK, which in the mid 90's was completely overshadowed.... as was every other golden era game for the most part.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch Any time I find a place with 8 or more machines, it's almost sure to have both Donkey Kong and KI. Often there are other Nintendo titles like Mario Bros. Some even have Punch Out! (not the same game as the NES version). Nintendo was as big a contender as anyone else for as long as they cared to compete. They didn't get pushed out either. They just followed the money when the consoles were successful. It's ignorant to pick a narrow time window and claim that nothing else matters.
jevansturner 1 year ago
@jevansturner really? that is different then my experience. I find it a treat to find a donkey kong or a KI machine in a side of the road stop... nintendo didn't hold nearly that much arcade real estate in the arcades I played at... 2-4 games out of 8? that is 25 to 50 % of the games being nintendo? that wasn't the case anywhere I have been.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@jevansturner well, except for the Namco chains and such.
CZroe 1 year ago
@MrDebauch Killer Instinct 1, 2, and Gold were fully published and distributed by Nintendo for Nintendo with Rareware as a second-party developer... unlike their later N64 games that were "Published by Rare." Nintendo championed the hardware and worked w/Rare to develop the game (watch the secret end of the Donkey Kong Country preview video to see the Nintendo of America Treehouse crew including Armond Williams & Ken Lobb working on a very early version of the game). If you don't know, shut up.
CZroe 1 year ago
@MrDebauch Would you say that Metroid Prime isn't by Nintendo?
At the time of KI, Rare was basically a Nintendo studio. Nintendo has both internal development "houses" (HAL, EAD, Intelligent Systems) and foreign studios (Retro Studios, Rare). After Donkey Kong Country, Nintendo owned most of Rare and it operated as Nintendo's European studio.
Similarly, 2K Games and Rockstar have studios around the world.
Games developed by the internal group known as "Team Ninja" are still Tecmo games, no?
jevansturner 1 year ago
@jevansturner okay, so are you with the other guy on saying that nintendo has more arcade experience then capcom and sega or something? Sorry, I thought rare was entirely responsible for KI and didn't realize nintendo has so much involvement with the series.. either way, KI was huge on the SNES, and not that huge in arcades... notice though that street fighter 2 was so huge in arcades that they ported it to every single console and they still port it to every new console today.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch I would say that Nintendo had more arcade experience than Sega or Capcom until Nintendo mostly abandoned the arcades and Sega / Capcom kept on producing them. During that period (before Nintendo re-entered with KI), Sega had some real turds like Time Traveler / Holosseum. After the financial successes of SF and MK, Nintendo saw dollar signs and made a HUGE hit with KI.
I don't know about Canada, but the KI machine was the only one that ever had a line in GA. KI2 was the same.
jevansturner 1 year ago
@MrDebauch Of course they ported SF to every console, because Capcom would make more money by selling more units. Nintendo would make their title exclusive to their own platform so it would sell more systems. Then Nintendo would make money from every title you bought for that system (Nintendo-developed or not). KI could have been a bigger franchise if it was allowed to be multi-platform, but that wouldn't make sense for Nintendo because Nintendo's games would help to sell competitors' platforms.
jevansturner 1 year ago
@jevansturner of course they could port to every system... and it sold well on every system due to it's arcade popularity. SF2 is the reason fighters became so popular. of course capcom ported it to make money... and as we now know... they did make money because the game was huge.
MrDebauch 1 year ago
@MrDebauch KI couldn't be ported to a non-Nintendo console because Rare was a second-party Nintendo developer, so there is no comparison. If anyone thinks that the Treehouse video was just NoA testing, consider that Nintendo's own Ken Lobb provided the voice for Chief Thunder and named his moves (Samamish was a lake nearby named for an Indian tribe).
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe Also...why would it be sent to the publisher for "testing" at such an early state? Thunder was still a rocker with long hair!
jevansturner 1 year ago
sadly it wasent to far from the real thing. lol the one we do have is so effing werd
qwertlolo 1 year ago
That was the freakiest picture of any controller I've ever seen!
MammaleousMaximus 1 year ago
Hey, this is a American version of Bad Influence!
sonikku956 2 years ago
@sonikku956 err, Canadian version.
sonikku956 2 years ago
@sonikku956 why did i get a thumbs down?
sonikku956 1 year ago
@sonikku956 The way he said "Been" doesn't sound like a US TV show. Canadian, perhaps?
CZroe 1 year ago
@CZroe i meant to say canadian. its down below.
sonikku956 1 year ago
@sonikku956 Well, Canada is part of America, the region. ;)
CZroe 1 year ago
wow, an snes controller. why dont we call it snes64?
getamac11 2 years ago
That bald guy reminds me of Max Headroom, just not as interesting.
CLeRKSfan4life 2 years ago 2
snes controller with a penis
thoughless18 2 years ago 4
can't wait til this comes out..
SteakBeats 2 years ago 3
.......this was probibly the first version of the n64 controller.
rometwins96 2 years ago
It was a mock-up that had all of the important details.
jevansturner 2 years ago
i tried that wbsite and it dosent work anymore
kingryan30 2 years ago 2
lol wtf is that looks like a snes controller that melted
masterchief3k 2 years ago 69
@masterchief3k Nope, it's a snes controller with a pubic bone.
SpEsHaLLLL 1 year ago
lol fail
fullmetalmc 2 years ago
wow. i would love to mod a snes controller to look like that and work on the N64
kingryan30 2 years ago
I am glad that didn't wind up being the final product. Although, the actual N64 controller wasn't much better.
brnbasler 2 years ago
It wasn't even a prototype. It was a mock-up based on leaked details. Can't you tell?
jevansturner 2 years ago 4
i wish all controllers had 6 face buttons.
snkjack 2 years ago 23
6 face buttons, start+select button, dual-analog, single d-pad, quad-triggers...
That would be my controller of choice.
Spikehead777 2 years ago
@snkjack Yeah. It's much better for arcade fighters in particular and the way Nintendo implement it it even worked like another set of axes when a game design needed it (no dual analog, remember?).
CZroe 1 year ago
@snkjack sega genesis had 6 face buttons... a, a, b, b, c, c
I never owned one so I never understood why there were 2 of the same 3 buttons
tsRemixCentral 1 year ago
@tsRemixCentral genesis had a 3 button a.b.c, the six button was a,b,c,x,y.z so i really have no idea what your talking about.
snkjack 1 year ago
@snkjack oh right, well again I never owned one so I dont know to much about that but I cant imagine how confusing 6 buttons on one side would be
tsRemixCentral 1 year ago
@snkjack Perfect for arcade fighters and serviceable for a second D-pad.
CZroe 1 year ago
@snkjack Umm, no, that would be awkward. The PS2 and PS3 controller is perfect.
dstebbin 9 months ago
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wtf! just think if they stayed with that model that shit would of been ugly as fuck..beats out ps3 original controlle model in the ugly department.
sevenjeg 2 years ago
they were really close
mda21996 2 years ago 5
looks like a combination of the n64 and snes controller.
tbrady99 2 years ago 2
The guy pretty much nailed it, aside from the button and grip designs and the shoulder buttons. Probably not the Z either, but very accurate prediction, or concept.
MegaMacTV 2 years ago
Oooh... SO CLOSE. Yet, So far.
ifhgsfj 2 years ago
the photo makes the analog stick look like a joystick. lol soooo close!
koopa0999 3 years ago
canadian .... yea thats fucked up im canadian too so lol
tekedaoda 3 years ago 2
Kripes! I thought that was Max Headroom on the TV at first, and was thinking when the hell was this aired? False alarm LOL
LitterboxDiorama 3 years ago
haha photoshop pro
Goldstyler87 3 years ago
they were a little bit close
brickman409 3 years ago
Is the artist stupid or somthin why dose it look like the super nintendo controller? I didn't look like SNES controller did it? PS. I take that back About artist.
wwejmxsteele 3 years ago
is strange because looks like a Snes control, but the analog stick ismuch better...
Renann64 3 years ago
That "thing" looks like an SNES controller with three handles and an analong stick. Damn, it's closer than it looks.
MikeDiastavrone3 3 years ago
Playstation saw the need of analog stick, and their new dual shock just blew the competition out of the sky.
deltafreelancer 3 years ago
@deltafreelancer No. It ripped off each of the competition's innovations. Even before the DualShock, they copied shoulder buttons and doubled them. After N64, they copied force feedback and doubled it and analog. They just stuck analog where it would fit and doubled it to balance the design, which is inferior. That's why no other dual analog controller ever put them down there until the Wii's "classic" controller
CZroe 1 year ago
Boy, were they wrong.
eatmyfumes 3 years ago
..how could they know!?
haleman1704 3 years ago
Man, and I thought the Nintendo 64's controller was awkward.
Homepie 3 years ago 3
that thing scares me
brage49 3 years ago 5
actually, it's really close, only thing I have to say is, if Nintendo was making an "ULTRA" 64, why the hell didn't the artist make a more "ULTRA" controller. I mean, he obviously saw a prototype to be that close, but wtf, thats one ugly piece of shit. Nintendo is not stupid, they want their stuff to look good, and that defiantly, DOES NOT LOOK GOOD!!
ktmiddlestadt 3 years ago
At least they were close...
KevoMilla 3 years ago
Screw the Ultra 64 controller, there are more important things in this clip! Why would that bald man have such a small noose with him? You wanna know why? I'LL TELL YOU WHY! That bastard's been hanging fairies!
PurpleNinjaPower 3 years ago
It's got a penis?
dumbestname 3 years ago 3
WTF ?!?! 0______0
davidus444 3 years ago
Hahah, I remember watching this on TV at the time. I loved game nation. I didn't remember it being such a shoddy artist's rendering though.
XenonRadon 3 years ago
Hay look, another version of the SNES controller, but with an analog stick in the middle!
Quadunit404 3 years ago 6
Oh god... you are exactly right...
monkeymaan2 3 years ago
lol im looking at a bald face guy chaos emerald (chaos emerald theme) sonic got the bald headed guy emerald
jballen90 3 years ago
"Imagine how cool it would be"...
The guy has got suspenders! There just is no place for cool on that show anymore!
latuman 3 years ago 2
gaaah!!! that thing is horrible!!!!!!
Ignigknawt 3 years ago 5
Radical.
rawrimstillonfire 3 years ago 2
it looks like someone told the artist what it looked like over the phone...lol
finzgar420 3 years ago 5
its like an snes controller and an n64 controller did it
nintendojerk 3 years ago 22
HOLY CRAP!!! it's a SNES controller with a stick in the middle. that is a crappy artist rendering.
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alexisd3 3 years ago
Sonic 2 Bonus stage in the background on the TV! XD
I still have my Nintendo 64. I hardy use it, and all my games were sold by my parents back in 2001 :[
Luigi759 3 years ago
hahahahah
oh wow
saladcat 3 years ago
damn that was a big joke lol ha that controller was drawn by a 4 year old, but nonetheless very the button layouts were correct.
GamingPalooza 3 years ago
that controler was stupid! HaHaHa!
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why did they call it the 64? why not the 27 or 73? will someone please tell me?
freshwater7894 3 years ago
back in the day people were obsessed with the number of bits a system was capable of processing. NES was 8bit, SNES was 16bit, SEGACD was considered 32bit, and N64 claimed to be 64bit. Now people don't really talk about it because there's a lot more to a system than just bits.
pzuto 3 years ago 15
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... thanks. i can't beilieve i thought of that. i feel dumb. thank you
freshwater7894 3 years ago
@pzuto segacd was 32 bit? i thought it was 16-bit
sonikku956 1 year ago
@freshwater7894 because it has 64 graphic bits and the n64 cartage had 64 MB of space
maynardjustwins 1 year ago
the resemblence is uncanny. But the real controller was uglier.
guyvf 3 years ago
looks like a pelvis dildo thing
lucace1996 3 years ago
Did that guy really just say Nin didn't have a lot of arcade experience? So, the fact Donkey Kong, Mario Brothers, Punch-Out and more than 20 other arcade games came out before the started the NES mean nothing? Bloody hosier like that make me feel embarrassed for my old home and ancestry.
TL'DR: Bloody Stupid journalists.
AcerBurner 3 years ago 5