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  • 0:43 - wtf are they?

  • One of the sexiest jets in existence.

  • The Rafale beat the Eurofighter 7-1 during combat simulation in Dubai 2009, it also gave a hard time to the F22.

  • @pakruy mockup fights doesn't prove anything ! remember, the US pilots flying the MIG-29 have always beaten the US pilots flying the F-15...

    F-15 has killed 110 foreign fighters with 0 loss including plenty of MIG-29's and even few MIG-25's. There is a difference between real combat and mockup fights between friendly air forces and allies.The F-22 didn't even use its awesome radar against the Rafale and scored a gun kill instead.

  • Good plane but overrated.

  • The F22 and the Typhoon are the best fighter planes and best looking fighter jets in the world. Love the USA and love the UK!!!

  • @MrXray2011 Eurofighter is good but Rafale is beter by at least 20% or more.

  • @pakruy The EF is better than the Rafale- it is as agile as the F-22 and can carry more weapons than the Rafale. Plus the Rafale is French and British tech is more advanced than French tech.

  • @MrXray2011 The Eurofighter is not british but europeen, italian spanish german and english. The Rafale is a better plane cause it is more operationel, just look in libya what the Rafale did. And you can also ask india wy they think that thr Rafale is better than the eurofighter.

  • @pakruy The Indian's chose what they thought was better for them. And the EF's in the RAF were made by BAE Systems. Lets be honest pretty much all of the tech in the EF is British; the German's and Italian's don't have this kind of tech!! The EF is soooo much better than the Rafale. The EF is newer too... why would the UK (2nd best military in the world) settle for a plane which is not as good as French AF! EF is better.

  • @MrXray2011 The Rafale has an AESA radar plus it has an OSF (optronique secteur frontal) to identify the enemy clairly.The Eurofighter can only fly faster an higher than the Rafale, that's about it.

  • @pakruy Cameron is furious at the indians, but don't worry the next french fighter will by a corporation between the french and english in the next decade.

  • @pakruy Right... the EU has, so far, been a disaster but if the UK and France pull this off then I will change my mind about the EU. The EU should work closely together on military activites etc but all of the states within the EU should be able to make and change their own laws.

  • @pakruy EF is more agile than the Rafale and so in a dog fight an RAF EF will always win... plus the RAF would not buy a plane inferior to another plane- why do you think we chose the EF!

    To be honest the French are not my favourite people (I do like them though) but we are allies and the EF and the Rafale will never fight against each other.

  • @MrXray2011 If the EF is that good why did the english navy order the F35,wich is a very bad plane.

    I hope that Holland will cancel them and buy the Rafale instead.

  • @pakruy It's not the English Navy, it is the Royal Navy. And we are getting the F-35 because it is stealthy and would be able to fly into enemy air space and destroy targets. Why would they get the Rafale when the EF is better? The F35 is not agile but why would it need to be it is invisible to enemy radar, it could do it's job and get back to the fleet without being seen. Oh and the RAF is getting them too- apx 150+200+ EF's...

  • @MrXray2011 we were looking into the EF as a carrier fighter but the hook would have made to too heavy and unagile (like the Rafale) so we went with the F35C. The UK is more powerful than France, we have a better army, air force and a better navy too.

  • @MrXray2011 Only you and Cameron think that die Eurof is better.lol

  • @pakruy 

  • @MrXray2011 The french use to be part of the eurofighter program, but they deside to quit cause they wanted to make a better plane, more multi-role, and they succeed. So the french ingineers outperformed die english german italian and spanish engineers. Impressive, I have to say.

  • @pakruy Please spell correctly (in English, not the American version of English- Programme.) The UK don't do multi role- that is why we got the F35. The EF is a better Air Sup plane but the Rafale is a better all rounder as we don't like multi role Air Sup- this is evident in the Royal Navy= different ships for different roles. The F35 is going to be used mainly as an attack plane but it can also double up as a fighter!!

  • @MrXray2011 Oh and may I compliment your ability to speak English- I'm hopless at French. Hello and Goodbye summarises my French. I just hate the American version of the English language.

  • @MrXray2011 The day F-35 enters service,both Rafale and Eurofighters will be obselete.

    F-35's 360 degree situational awareness and its AESA radars will outperform and outclass anything in the air, excluding F-22. The best combination for any airforce would be Typhoon+F-35 which would make it invincible. 

  • @Onera1970 The F35 is not as agile as the EF nor can it carry as many missiles/bombs but, as you said, a combination of the two will make for a great Royal Air Force/ Royal Navy, Fleet Air Arm. The EF is as agile as the F22 it's just not stealthy, which is it's only draw back. The Rafale is a better naval fighter but only because when a hook is added to the EF it becomes too heavy.

  • @pakruy That's nonsense..The French left the Eurofighter program because they needed a fighter with aircraft carrier landing capability . British and German engineers will outperform the French anywhere, anytime. Rafale is not better than Typhoon, its merely different and most important of all, much cheaper.The Eurofighter is a pure high altitude supersonic interceptor.

  • @Onera1970 That is what I was trying to explain. The EF is not a good naval aircraft, the hook made it far too heavy. The Rafale is a great navel plane (better than the F/A18) but it would/ could not beat a EF. The EF is an air sup fighter that can drop bombs if needed but that is why we're getting the F-35. It sounds egotistical, but I do not mean it as such, but British tech is better than French tech and about the same (give and take some) as US tech.

  • @MrXray2011 I agree with most of your analysis but would like to add some comment.

    Rafale is not better than the Super Hornet,its more agile,nimle and has better acceleration but the SH is a far superior platform .First it has the second best radar in the world which is the APG-79 this is a generation ahaed of Rafales first AESA which will become operational next year. Its AMRAAM missles are superior to French MICA.

    Its A2G capability is better than Rafale even French pilots confirm this

  • @MrXray2011 While the Super Hornet isn't the best dogfighter, it's not that bad either. Having attack in the name does not automagically confer a vastly inferior Air-to-Air capability The SH can carry 14 AMRAAM

  • @MrXray2011 Rafales supersonic maneuverability is useless ,Rafale pilot wouldn't know he is being shot at because SH's awesome radar will detect and lock on the Rafale first ! Seriously.,SH carrying more missiles( 14 AMRAAM's for Beyond Visual Range type of engagements) mean they have more chances to intercept anything if one Rafale gets close, it has JHMCS and two AIM-9X's to deal with which would be almost impossible to evade.I would say in A2G, the SH is massively superior to Rafale

  • @MrXray2011 In A2A today , I would bet my money on SH against the Rafale but in 3-4 years when the Rafale gets its first AESA radar ( although it will be inferior to that of SH) and METEOR missile for BVR ,than the chances are 50:50

    But today ,the SH with APG-79 and AMRAAM (AIM-120C7/D) against RAFALE with RBE2 PESA radar ( which is massively inferior to Typhoons CAPTOR radar ) and MICA, the RAFALE is a dead meat because it will never come to a dogfight .

  • @MrXray2011 Again, I agree with your assessment, Britain is superior to France in key areas of the defence technology .Brits make better radars and sonars than the French  also better tanks and artillery but the French are better in tactical missile technology.The comparison with the US would be difficult for both France and Britain as the American have by far the greatest defence industry and qualified workforce in the world..Their research is absolutely first class.

  • @Onera1970 The UK is as advanced in some areas, better in others and not as good as the US. The EF is 100% better than the Rafale, I'm not sure about the SH as I have not looked into this much- although I would imagine that the SH is better than the Rafale.

  • @MrXray2011 It's my job to know the SH is better than Rafale ! Typhoon is more advanced than Rafale but it was constructed with one mission in mind ,namely the destruction of Soviet Bombers and fighters in high altitudes .Typhoon's airframe is much more sophisticated than Rafale which makes it unfortunately more expensive .Its Jet engines are far more powerful than Rafale's. Here is one interesting comment on Rafale vs Typhoon .

  • @MrXray2011 Speaking of the Eurofighters close-in combat prowess, Major Marc Grüne, CO of 742 (Zapata), the second squadron of the wing, described to assembled aviation journalists how, on a recent visit to France to demo the aircraft, he had won two out of two battles against the Dassault Rafale in mock within visual range dogfights.

  • @MrXray2011 Both fights were a standard set-up and merge at 21,000ft and 30,000ft he recounted, adding that the higher the fight the better the Eurofighter liked it. He singled out the Eurofighters excess power as its trump card over the Rafale...

  • @Onera1970 The EF is better than the SH as well- because of its agility, age, engines and tech. What do you expect... British tech Vs French tech- we're much better than the French.

  • @MrXray2011 Well ,we discussed Rafale versus Typhoon .Typhoon versus SH is different. Typhoon is better then SH in A2A,has superior aerodynamics, it has unmatched hi-speed maneuvrability and better acceleration but the SH's radar is much more advanced than Typhoon. Both fighters are equipped with AMRAAM's so both have a clear advantage compared to Rafale. The SH is massively superior to Typhoon in Air-to-ground missions.today Typhoon+SH would be the most lethal combination.

  • @Onera1970 That's because the EF is supposed to be an Air Sup fighter, like the F-22 and not a fighter/bomber like the F-35, Rafale or SH. The EF and the F35 would be unstoppable.

  • @MrXray2011  Major Marc Grüne is a famous German Luftwaffe Typhoon pilot !

  • @Onera1970 No way, french engineers clairly outperfom the italians english german and spanish. Go see the evaluations from the suisse and the indians.

  • @pakruy The evaluations of different airforces don't prove anything.

    The Rafale came last in Brazil after Gripen and Super Hornet..Can we assume the swedish engineers are better than Americans? your analysis doesn't make any sense.Btw ,the Rafale didn't win in India because it was a superior fighter,other factors such as ToT ,price and the fact that Indian Air Force's past experience with Mirage 2000 played decisive role. IAF pilots were impressed with Typhoon.

  • @pakruy Britain is known to have the best engineers in the world. Look at the Type 45 and Type 26, Astute Class, QE Class, Vanguard Replacement, EF Typhoon etc. I agree that France is better than Italian, German and Spanish engineering but it is nowhere near as good as British tech.

  • @MrXray2011 Sorry pal, that used to be in the past. I would not buy anything British today... your products are unreliable, and illogically built. Unfortunately, Britain isn't what it used to be...

  • @algi1948 Fuck off, we got some great chickens that lay some lovely brown eggs so shove it u wanker..

  • @preamble100 Maybe that's all you have got...

  • @algi1948 wings over isreal, yes. there will be. and they won't be friendly. here's praying. shove it.

  • @algi1948 British tech is the best in the world, along with the US. Our products are reliable, are hugely advanced; compared to all tech (the US is equally as good.) The Charles De Gaulle is not reliable at all- she breaks down all of the time.

    British and American tech rules.

  • @MrXray2011 I wish it were true, but in ain't...be honest. Would you buy a British made car if it isn't a RR or a Jaguar?

  • @algi1948 They're the only cars that we build now and yes I want a Jag and and hope to get the new XF next year.

  • @MrXray2011 Good for you, and best wishes.. but why do you drive on the wrong side of the road? it almost got me killed while trying to cross the street in London...

  • @algi1948 so that your sword arm is free to deal with an attack on your right hand side, your left flank is protected by your shield. you need your sword in your master arm, too bad if your a lefty but honestly, that is where it comes from

  • @gluepot66 Similar to why the ICBM's have the diameters they do... hint: the dimensions of Romans' horses asses...

  • @algi1948 didn't think you would get an answer did you. now I want you to tell me why american doughnuts have holes in them, other doughnuts do not but what are recognised in Europe at least as 'American' doughnuts have holes in em, why? I know the answer you may be able to wikipedia it I cant be bothered to look at the mo

  • @gluepot66 I hate doughnuts. They give me unnecessary calories, and an extensive heartburn...with or without holes, they are redundant. But what is the connection between the hole in the doughnuts and the eurofighter? it would be interesting to trace the conversation backwards. A typical youtube level waste of a good mental energy?.

  • @algi1948 Wrong side of the road!!! Just because we do not drive, literally, on the right side of the road does not mean that we drive on the wrong side :)

  • @MrXray2011 I assumed that this remark would ignite a British... but I love the British sense of humour. So I wrote my remark and miraculously remained alive... Yet I shit in my pants whenever I have to ride a cab in Britain... I don't dare to drive there. My and only my problem. "the continent is isolated"...

  • @algi1948

    We do have a good sense of humour... are you American then? And there's nothing wrong with driving on the Left... what are your views on roundabout's? :) I hear you yanks just can't get the hang of them (assuming that you are American, that is.)

  • @MrXray2011 I am not an American. I am an Israeli, I live in Jerusalem, and we do hold some sentiment for the British who turned a primitive Ottoman Palestine into a relatively civilized area. We have been carrying on... yes, and roundabouts are used very extensively here. But we enter them turning to the right...(some other countries do it to the left. Should I say in the wrong direction? hehe)

  • @MrXray2011 Oh yes,the nuclear carrier CDG was an embarrassment for the French navy as they screwed this up from the beginning , she had been plagued with technical problems since it was launched ,excessive noise,chemical leaks,massive delays, extended flight deck length so it could operate its aircraft, propeller falling off,drive system fatigue,uncontrolled vibrations, you name it ,she cost French taxpayers more than a Nimitz class to US tax payers which is twice the size and capability..

  • @Onera1970 It's a crap ACC. That's why they need the UK to build them a QE Class!!!

  • @algi1948 British defence and aerospace products are still of very high quality mate.

    you are most probably referring to general industrial products about which I can't make a comment. Germans are making better industrial machines than anybody else of course but we are talking about defence products here. RR jet engines are not that bad you should try one ! BAE Systems products are US Ministry of Defence approved which is a benchmark for the rest of the world.

  • @Onera1970 Here I almost agree with you, although your fighter planes are produced with others... however I refer to the UK as adwindling power, which is worrysomw. One of the only sane nations has gone to the dogs, and this is real pity. Because who else is left? RR engines are gr8, of course, but German machines are best. They also give you service after the warranty is over...

  • @algi1948 your fighters?? I am not British, I am neutral..

  • @pakruy ?

  • they should nick name them golden eagles 

  • bellissimi aerei

    

  • One of my favorite jets

  • Elegance at it's best!

  • Sper din toata inima ca se uita si romani la ceea ce ne va apara in caz de necesitate.

  • Arata ca"ratusca urita ," dar are inima de vultur! looks like ugly duck but have a eagle heart!

  • Cool.

  • In 4-5 years time Denmark is going to replace their old school F-16s. The SAAB JAS-39NG, Boeing F-18E/F, F-35 are in the contest. But now also the Typhoon is in the game:0) I hope we choose the Typhoon although the Swedes will hate ud for that!

  • @Badger071 Those platforms are not in any sort of real "contest"! Denmark will buy the yank F-35's since we have already transfered billions of dollars to Lockheed Martin paying part of the development budget for that particular aircraft. Anyways the F-18 would be a stupid buy since it's not really 5th Gen. The fake "contest" was/is between the F-35, the Eurofighter and the SAAB, as you mentioned. Not the F-18. IMHO we should go for the Swedish model and save billions on maint.

  • @AvoinTarina We did actually have the F-18E Super Hornet here in Denmark to show off. It WAS in the contest..and I still thought it was. But the F-18 airframe is an old design going back to the 70s. Yeah..maybe we will buy the Gripen. It´s all about the money in the end.

  • @TheYehaa12 In other words a nasty bit of business, thanx...

  • was that like a mini cruise at the end?

  • @janmadytay

    Yeah... This thing is called "Taurus" - With means: Target Adaptive Unitary and Dispenser Robotic Ubiquity System. In Germay its called: "Modulare Abstandswaffe" (MAW)

    Greetz

  • @janmadytay

    As said, thats Taurus .. a new german type of advanced cruise missiles

  • awesome video!

  • very nice edit.

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