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  • Just a pathetic display of radical liberalism out of control.

  • Wow, what is wrong with all the post on this video.

    I guess you don't really care that the BIGGEST corporations on the planet (Massive Oil Companies) are screwing us over?

    Exxon doesn't give a rats ass about any of us and if a billion people had to die so exxon could make their massive profits (19.3 billion 2009) they would kill off those billion in a heart beat.

    They don't even give a shit about Americans, let alone anyone else in the world.

    Wake up people, we are running out of time.

  • Dr Miskolczi showed that the solution to a differential equation for the greenhouse effect developed in 1922 by Arthur Milne, wrongly assumed an infinitely thick atmosphere. In re-solving this equation a new term and also a new law of physics have been proposed setting an upper limit to the greenhouse effect. Dr Miskolczis theory indicates that any warming from elevated atmospheric carbon dioxide will eventually be offset by a change in atmospheric moisture content.

  • Still Bunk.

  • that will be nice when all the ice melts there it might be a good vacation spot some day. Maybe some day we can all rest on sunny beaches there. I'm really happy for Greenland!

  • WINNIPEG, Manitoba (Reuters) - The multiple frosts that have blanketed Western Canada in the last week are the most widespread in the top canola-growing province of Saskatchewan in at least five years, the Canola Council of Canada said on Tuesday.

    Two overnight frosts last week have already resulted in some Saskatchewan farmers reseeding their canola, a Canadian variant of rapeseed, said Jim Bessel, senior agronomy specialist in the province for the industry group Canola Council.

  • This will not be shown on TV. They select where they show the ice. Remember when the ice melts on Greenland they find Norse farming lodges underneath, they are no more than 1000 years old. Hence it was warmer, far warmer, 1000 years ago. Real science does not always give the facts people want.

  • ALGORE IS THE NEW HITLER

  • sieg hiel? SIEG HIEL!!

  • @garyowen4ever The Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us

    · Secret report warns of rioting and nuclear war

    · Britain will be 'Siberian' in less than 20 years

    · Threat to the world is greater than terrorism

    Mark Townsend and Paul Harris in New York

    The Observer,  Sunday 22 February 2004 01.33 GMT

  • @garyowen4ever Yeah, because Adolf was into environmentalism.

  • So you flew over as an exclusive group with champagne in your glasses.

    You saw that some glaciers were melting, as they have done for thousands of years.

    And now you want someone else to cut down on consumption?

    And this at the very same time that you fly back to your 64-room mansions??!!

    Give us a ******* break!!

  • These guys are jokes....they wanna end global warming yet they fly to greenland....in addition all of this was on the dime of donations to the nwf! i can't even listen to these ignorant assholes. icebergs do not equal global warming..... he even mentioned that they had massive icebergs in 1912

  • i bet that Baltimore/Greenland shuttle must be popular.

  • If you live somewhere hot it does. :)

  • Go out and stand in it for a few months solid, then. We'll see you back when you are dying of skin cancer.

  • WOW great comeback there drunk! The earth is cooling, even algore said so this month and you nutjobs are calling it "climate change" now. What a sham, you are a fool!

  • Plants take in CO2, and excrete O2. CO2 tracks the wax and wane of plants.

  • fucking miserable

  • Why are there so many mindless adolescent comments? We adults need to insure that there will be a healthy habitat these adolescents. Then, when they are more informed and thinking clearly, they will do the same for their descendants.

    Google...

    What the Public Doesn't Get About Climate Change

    The time is NOW to support candidates that will address the crisis.

    WeCanSolveIt(dot)org

  • Global warming is false.

    Lets all destroy the plant guys that way Jesus will return sooner! Horay!

  • I heard that the glacier that hit the titanic was inhabited by 90 rubber duckies for a science experiment on global warming. I saved the video in my 'favorites'

  • this video (video by pierdiavolo2) show you taht global warming is a true,but in Italy over 4000m the global warming can't be really incisive...

  • You naysayers! How about some substance for a change!

    Please provide ONE historically reliable scientific institution that concludes humans are NOT warming the planet. If there is ANY credence to their opinion surely they can find ONE to offer more than just transparent denials and excuses.

    P.S. This is rhetoric of course. There are none. :-))

    For what the experts have to say Google...

    Scientific Opinion on Climate Change Wikipedia

    Also try...

    WeCanSolveIt(dot)org

  • reduce- Ok here goes, there were more record cold temps from 1900-1950 than 1951-2000. The earth has cooled since 2000 and algore said the planet is cooling. Proof? Powned!

  • Check your facts liberal hater. The earth has NOT cooled since 2000. Visit NASA's site that discusses global temp observations.

    Natural cycles and variability are expected, have been taken into consideration, and will continue to occur.

    Humans are warming the planet. ALL of our reliable scientific institutions that have considered this issue agree.

    Google...

    Scientific Opinion on Climate Change Wikipedia

    Enjoy

  • reduce- YOU with all your nutjob comrades are insane. There is NO proof global warming (its cooling not warming OH I forgot its climate change) is here. It appears by your comment above you have drank the cool aid. You said "ALL of our reliable scientific institutions that have considered this agree" You are a global warming nazi, when obama closes coal plants like he said he will and power gets turned off across the country, Americans will come looking for people like you. Good luck

  • So I'm an insane nutjob with comrades? Premature and silly of you.

    No proof? All of the scientific institutions that studied the issue don't agree with you.

    Worried about your lights going out? You sound a bit irrational and certainly uninformed.

    You clearly have labeled me "Un-American". I contend that it is YOU that is Un-American. We Americans pride ourselves in being rational and willing to face the truth head on. Other's hide behind ignorance and make baseless accusations.

  • reduce- There you go again using the word "ALL" again. I guess the debate is over and you win. Think about this, over history the earth has warmed and cooled right? Ok, how did my car cause it to warm? It didnt, you bought into this POLITICAL issue. Like I said, the peoples lives you help destroy will come looking for you, I would hide. BTW more people die from the cold than heat in this world (not that your insane POLITICS will help it cool any)

  • Your calling card and your comments force me to label you ---> Mr. Un-American, Non-Liberal, that hates America.

    Yes I like the word "ALL" because it applies. It is not a debate, I don't win, and it is just a fact.

    A transition to sustainable energy sources WILL occur sooner or later. I prefer it on our terms, not forced by circumstance.

    Of course the earth has natural climate variations. This is due to how much solar radiation exposure we get; a function mainly of orbital variations.

  • You are insane

  • That's all you got?

    I tear holes in your position so I must not be rational?

    OK Mr. Un-American, Non-Liberal, that hates America I suggest you step away from the screen and pick up a book. There's a lot to learn. Here's some suggestions.

    Hot, Flat, and Crowded

    The Party's Over

    Plan B 3.0

    that is, IF you read.

  • Reduce- The only "hole you tore was on your mother" You have nothing except a ideal that you want to save something. Nothing and you cant prove it. Even algore doesnt think the planet is warming now. Its over and you are STILL being suckered. What a fool you are

  • Mr. Un-American, Non-Liberal, that hates America.

    There ya go again. STILL nothing of substance. What was the last book you read on this issue. What? Haven't read one? No kidding.

  • reduce- We ALL know what happens when enviro-nuts like you get your way. We just need to look to "The mother of the enviromental movement" Rachel Carson to see what we are in store for. When her book silent spring was published and you nuts got the info the EPA banned it. Millions of poor people have died because of this ban. This is your legacy. Global warming is a hoax and you bought into it.

  • Mr. Un-American that hates America have you read Silent Spring? Unlikely. So again your talking out your arse.

    Try reading it and other. You have a lot to learn.

    The reasonable rely on institutions like NASA, NOAA, EPA, AAAS, NAS, AGU, and many others. The 100% consensus of credible institutions is conclusive! Humans ARE warming the planet.

    But if you're in denial, no amount of evidence matters. You'll just believe what you WANT.

  • reduce- Oh you are soooo powerfull human! You can make the planet warmer and cause the people to die in a thousand years! Tell that to the Iraqi people who had snow last year for the first time in 100 years, or Las Vegas who had the most snow in recorded history this week! Dont give me your "evidence" from the last 100 years from a planet millions and millions of years old. Check the record cold temps from 1900-2000 and get back to me. It was colder from 1950 on you assclown!

  • Mr. Un-American, thank you but I alone do not warm the planet. This dates back hundreds of years but for the most part a guidepost is the start of the industrial revolution when we started moving large amounts of stored carbon from the ground to the atmosphere.

    What was the last book you read on the subject?

    Here's a site you may be able to follow the lesson.

    Google...

    The EPA Global Warming Kids Page--Carbon Cycle Animation

    It's OK to ask questions.

    Read, learn, grow, contribute.

  • reduce- you have no facts only crazy (the sky is falling people) Not only can you make the planet warmer but you can read? You should be made king of the planet! You are so special! I bet you ride a bike to work, are a vegan, have a windmill outside your moms basement and dont take showers. Well the shower part is a given, liberals and crazy people dont take them.  I hate to spoil it for you but Santa is not real nor the Easter Bunny. Maybe the obama tax hike on carbon will make you happy?

  • Mr. Un-American

    Read

  • And as for the "LiberalsHateAmerica" crud.

    We got Obama elected along with many other progressive policy makers because we love America.

    You sound like a silly adolescent with that kind of comment.

  • Plants take in the 0.00037% CO2 in the air to support your life. More CO2, more life, and lower seas!

  • "They(tv reporters) ask me 'Did you see ice falling from the edge of glaciers?' 'Yes. That's the "spring break-up". That happens every year.' The press comes to us all the time, you know, 'I want to see something of the greenhouse disaster.' I say 'There is none(chuckles).' "

    --Prof. Syun-Ichi Akasofu

    -Founder, Director (ret 2007), IARC, Fairbanks, Alaska (International Artic Research Center - the worlds leading arctic research institute)

  • Warmer in the past than now :

    "Aside from views of cattails and blackbirds, the marshes in the lower Hudson Valley near New York City offer an amazingly detailed history of the area's climate. Sediment layers from a tidal marsh in the Hudson River Estuary have preserved pollen from plants, seeds, and other materials. These past remnants allowed researchers from Columbia University, New York, N.Y. and NASA to see evidence of a 500 year drought from 800 AD to 1300 AD,"

    ScienceDaily May 19, 2005

  • this is so sad i wish every1 would start bieng helpful to the world

  • yeah and stop creating theories about CO2 emissions

  • Many of us have seen documentaries about Greenland showing very old, broken down houses and villages dated to the era of the Vikings, with only the foundation of the houses remaining; houses and villages located in areas of Greenland that now only have permafrost. The land where these houses and villages are was once farm land where crops were grown

    Its now permafrost in these same areas impossible to grow crops in, i.e., it's colder there now than in the past when the Vikings were there.

  • There is no CREDIBLE debate about it. Humanity is altering the climate and had better do more to reducing emissions for the sake of our future generations.

    Look where the US is now...

    Google...

    G-8 climate scorecard shows US in last

    US citizen? Contact your local, state, and federal policy makers. Tell them to act NOW to address the crisis.

    For more about what you can do to help try the following site...

    WeCanSolveIt(dot)org

  • you must be frustrated that so many people are arguing with you - thank god the ice is melting - maybe greenland will turn "green" again

  • It must be frustrating not having ONE credible scientific institution that agrees with you. Oh that's right, your opinion carries more weight.

    And you don't read books! Would you like a list of the last dozen I've read on this topic? No, you wouldn't know what to do with it.

    Read, learn, grow, and contribute.

    Or remain in ignorance and denial. It matters not, the rational will progress without you.

    WeCanSolveIt(dot)org

  • oohhh - yep Al Gore is REAL credible - he invented the internet - you fight like a typical liberal - you can't win on logic so you try to feel superior - next book, try a history book - ie read about how the city of Troy was found WAY farther inland than expected and how real scientists learned that the oceans were 8 ft higher then, than now - hmmm - what does that mean? - oh yea the planet was warmer then - duh - oops no cars back then - common sense prevails

  • Did I say anything about Gore? No.

    You mean "Real scientists" not like those phonies from EPA, NASA, NAS, NOAA, American Geophysical Union, American Institute of Physics, National Center for Atmospheric Research, American Meteorological Society, Canadian Meteorological, Oceanographic Society and others?

    So these inst. employ phonies, you don't read books, and you have only your more reliable opinion?

    Good luck with that reasoning. You'll need it.

  • lol - so everyone who disagrees with you is not real, cute way around the problem, I noticed how you ducked the historical issue - which is fact, unlike consensus - I'll be waiting for you to address the historical record after you read some books about it, but in the interest of time just any article will be fine - should I look them up for you or can you handle the search on your own?

  • hmmm...i havent seen any polar bears drown yet...i havent seen any REAL ice depletion...if it is even depleating its because ice needs cool air AND water or water vapor...those scientists u mentioned were paid on a billion dollar contract to agree with al gores kool-aid formula so id stop sucking on the kool-aid and look at the TRUE side of the issue before you attempt to debate...chinaboyd out fool

  • Forget about Doomsday phrofets like Al Gore and his lightyear behind brain. Forgotten man like Al Gore figthting for apathic political life. Science, Research of Geophysical, even our planetarical position on space and Galaxy, kind of many cyclus on Planet,cyklus of Sunsystem, leaks of gas´s, becomes incl. Earthquakes Vulacanos incl. bottom of the Sea, natural methan gas leaks, not excist for this poor informed man. Political conclutions messing Reseach and Scientifical intervention.

  • Hay ,Dumb Fuch its melting !!!!! As it has been for the last 10,000 years , end of the ice age , (cycle ) start of the new ice age !!!

  • Peer-reviewed :

    showing IPCC climate models wrong, from the abstract of this seminal work :

    "These observations should be considered in the testing of cloud parameterizations in climate models, ....potentially supporting Lindzen's "infrared iris" hypothesis..."

    search :

    GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 34, L15707, doi:10.1029/2007GL029698, 2007

    It is also presented in video in YouTube under these titles :

    Why the IPCC models are wrong - Part 1

    Why the IPCC models are wrong - Part 2

  • "We find that the current Greenland warming is not unprecedented in recent Greenland history. Temperature increases in the two warming periods are of a similar magnitude, however, the rate of warming in 1920--1930 was about 50% higher than that in 1995--2005."

    --GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 33

  • No! What is with you people? You want my country to melt and be ice free so you can come here for vacation?

  • wow. you live there?

  • Yeah why?

  • its so remote place and there are not many greenlanders here:) nice country

  • Oh, thanks. =)

  • They won't be able to go to Florida, Half of ot will be underwater

  • I'm talking about Nzoomed.

  • Just think of it...with the snow pack melting we won't have droughts in Arizona anymore..we'll have plenty of water, and we'll have new beach front property maybe in northern florida..eastern california..I'm going to buy up land there, based on the Global Warming science..LOL

  • yay its melting! it will be nice ang green again like how it used to be when the mammoths were roaming about

  • no actually their not & the planet aint gonna explode - SO HA

  • hi i totally agree! anyway its lately been scientificly proven that the temparature has gone down through history not up - its true but it was squashed immediately by the government incase som1 actually took notice -- by the way im 11 & even i no dat!! hahaityha (sorry)

  • 02.08.07

    Climatologists at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York City have found that 2006 was the fifth warmest year in the past century.

    Image right: The five warmest years since the late 1880s, according to NASA scientists, are in descending order 2005, 1998, 2002, 2003 and 2006. Credit: NASA

    Check it out MagentaTrue...

  • "They(tv reporters) ask me 'Did you see ice falling from the edge of glaciers?' 'Yes. That's the "spring break-up". That happens every year.' The press comes to us all the time, you know, 'I want to see something of the greenhouse disaster.' I say 'There is none(chuckles).' "

    --Prof. Syun-Ichi Akasofu

    -Founder, Director (ret 2007), IARC, Fairbanks, Alaska (International Artic Research Center - the worlds leading arctic research institute)

  • how the ice meld!!!

  • [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

    [4:95] Not equal are those believers who sit and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit.

  • Quran:

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    [8.57] Therefore if you overtake them in fighting, then scatter by (making an example of) them those who are in their rear, that they may be mindful.

  • [3.175] It is only the Shaitan that causes you to fear from his friends, but do not fear them, and fear Me if you are believers.

    [8.2] Those only are believers whose hearts become full of fear when Allah is mentioned, and when His communications are recited to them they increase them in faith, and in their Lord do they trust.

    [16.50] They fear their Lord above them and do what they are commanded.

    [20.3] Nay, it is a reminder to him who fears:

  • "The Unity" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

    "112.1": Say: He, Allah, is One.

    "112.2": Allah is He on Whom all depend.

    "112.3":  He begets not, nor is He begotten.

    "112.4": And none is like Him.

    Quran

  • Good old Larry Schweiger , now that's one man who in it for cash. On the Global Warming bandwagon. Doris Duke Charitable Foundation announced a $904,248 grant to the National Wildlife Federation, Vice president Larry Schweiger. follow the money trail

  • Wasn't this video was shot in the SUMMER, when ICE MELTS?

  • Surely flying there is part of the the problem?

  • Regardless, we should all strive to be economical with our global resources.

    We simply cannot continue consuming like we do forever.

  • Fearing mongering is medieval folly

    Yes it's warming ... but did emissions cause warming in 800 AD when Britain was the growing grapes in a climate warmer than that of today?

    Wonder what the glaciers were doing then? I suspect we don't really know.... Since we seem to be discussing things only in the terms of the past 100 years or so?????

    Amazing what people will accept as fact

  • Demand policy makers take meaningful steps to correct...

    Depleting fisheries, Increasing Deforestation,

    Dropping water tables, Increasing population,

    Increasing poverty, Acidification of oceans,

    GHG build-up is increasing, Exploding extinction rates (plants & animals), Decreasing grain production, Increasing fuel costs, and Warming and changing climate patterns.

    Humanity is deteriorating the only habitat that can sustain us.

    For a wider perspective...

    Read... Plan B 3.0

  • Man Made Global Warming is a lie.  We had warmer temps during the middle ages when the Vikings settled Greenland, grapes were grown in England & Canada, and there is NO RECORD OF SEA ICE in the Vikings records. Oh yeah, there were no SUV's either. The masses are so gullible :) It's the sun stupid, thats why the rest of the solar system warmed up as well.

  • Antarctic ice has recovered and this extremely harsh winter has retored virtually all ice in the arctic that melted during the summer thaw last year.

    How could we have had such a cold winter if our climate is warming out of control ??? PS- The sun has been quiet the last few months- hardly any sunspot activity. Started last October/ Hmmmmm and we had a very cold winter...... You "Man Made GW" folks are nutty ! :)

    PS - man's total contribution to the earths C02 is .02%.

  • Corn-amazing how stupid the global warming crowd is. One correction the TOTAL C02 is .02% mostly caused by things other than man. Great post!

  • Thousands of scientists outside of the UN IPCC reject "MAN MADE" Global Warming. The earths recent and distant history is testimony that cooling and warming cycles are part of life on earth. This is all about globalization and socialism and making a buck on "carbon credits".

    The Kyoto treaty is about restricting industrialization in pollution responsible countries like America and giving a free pass to Brazil,China, Korea and others to grow at will.

  • China is opening coal powered plants at a record pace and their pollution problem grows out of control and unchallenged. If Europe and America can't grow and expand, the jobs and industry move to the 3rd world. It's the robin hood effect. With less restrictions in the 3rd world, pollution will be a nightmare.

    The problem is pollution and the use of our natural resources, not GW. The answer lies in new technology and alternative fuels. Stop lying to the masses !!

  • Regardless of your opinion on Global Warming, and its severity as an environmental problem, this is an example of the logical fallacy, "Misleading Vividness". Look it up.

    While it might have a great emotional impact to personally see a mass of ice collapsing in Greenland, that individual incident by itself says nothing about the global climate.

    You could have seen exactly the same thing if you were around as the Earth was going into the last Ice Age.

  • I think he shot himself in the foot at 2:00-2:00. Ice has been recorded flowing from Greenland for centuries.

  • Global Warming is PR for nuclear power - they made it up! You are spreading it. Help! Are yuo being well paid to kill us all?

  • Why do you need to GO anywhere to see warming- if it's truly GLOBAL? Why not just look out your window? This video is an open admission that warming is simply regional, while other regions are cooling. The GW alarmist cherry-pick the former and ignore the latter. Pathetic.

  • you dumbass, thats the worst i-dont-give-a-fuck/everything-­is-gona-be-fine excuse ive ever seen

  • Ah---I will submit to the superior mind. You usage of profanity gives you immense credibility! To roll "you dumbass" and "fuck" together is masterful! Have you been published?

  • i wish there were more people concerned on how to save our planet than to say me i cant say Fuck ..

  • Well, OK, you can say "Fuck" if you really think it lends gravitas to your argument. Personally, I think it makes you sound juvenile and pre-pubescent; but don't let me stop you from utilizing your choice and highly-evolved vocabulary.

  • i like to be simple and direct.. what better word to express my feelings about ignorant people? anyway im not the 1 whos gonna convince you about making the world a better place for our children

  • This is all such a sign of the times eh? Who can you trust anymore?

    I respect the opinion of the established intellectual community, though, on this matter - what little there is left of one anyway (maybe?)

    Related aside: what do you guys think about the 2 pacific ocean garbage vortexes?

    Mythological tax hike heist or us severely "effecting" the planet? or somewhere in between?

  • Global warming is just a money making exercise by governments to screw more cash out of the taxpayer.

  • CO2 supports life on Earth: Nuclear power tries to kill it! Stooge.

  • Global warming was fiction from nuclear power, who want to kill you!

  • About This Video

    "Community leaders are shocked to see how quickly global warming was impacting Greenland".

    These numb nuts are community leaders? No wonder the U.S. is headed down the drain. Check the exchange rates bottle tops are now officially worth more than U.S dollars, LOL its a great shame really. Lead like sheep to the slaughter.

  • you still on the same old tirade, eh?

  • I was going to go for a drive but that would be a crime to you so a tirade it is instead!

  • Look. I live in Minnesota, and I will tell you right now that global warming is a joke, especially in the winter. And, quite frankly, I could use a little global warming right now. I ride a bicycle to work every day, and being out when its is 20 below is no fun.

  • Wow global warming is a joke because your experience is that it's cold... how stupid is that, read scientific facts and look at all the icefields in the world...

  • "Scientific facts"? Don't make me laugh. In the '70's it was a "scientific fact" that the world was getting colder. And what of the threat (Carl Sagan) of "nuclear winter"? My gosh, if we need to cool the earth, all we have to do is blow a few nukes in the desert! And as far as my personal observations are concerned? My senses and intellect are razor sharp, and if I detect coldness, then, brother, it is cold. And the ice fields? Glaciers have always "calved." Lets warm it up a little!

  • please don't vote

  • "please don't vote"? How dare you attempt to deny me my right as an American citizen! Typical liberal! All for inclusivity and free speech until somebody disagrees with you. Stunning hypocrisy! Do you realize that my carbon footprint is so low as to be negligible? I would suspect you are one of those big polluters roiling in guilt who are looking for a big government to reign in your carbon-producing ways! Repent! Change! Learn! Grow! Evolve!

  • I love how you think you're educated. Why are you watching videos of global warming when clearly you are only here to insult those who are genuinely concerned over the topic?

    Please prove to me that global warming is a hoax, or perhaps that 99% of the world is wrong, but you are right.

  • I think concern over this issue is laughable. Is it real? It sure could be. But to correct it, we'd need total global cooperation. Not going to happen. We still have 7th century idiots cutting people's heads off, we have hugely destructive wars for trumped up reasons---people will not cooperate globally for any reason. So I do my part by riding a bicycle everywhere and laughing at the "environmentalists" driving SUV's. Sorry, but is funny in a sick way.

  • Keep up the good work. CFC pollution caused a global cooling in the 1970s - which has since been resolved. Global warming is now called climate change, caused by Carbon dioxide - predicting the effects is like predicting the weather. There will be more energy in the earth system though, so its like shaking a snow globe.

  • you can take what i said as seriously as you want. Peace. Sorry.

  • Oh, heck, I'm sorry too. I just get frustrated because I work really hard to be green, and then I see all these "environmentalists" who live lavish lifestyles, big houses (destroying a lot of forest for the wood), driving big cars many miles, drinking WATER out of one-use plastic bottles and then assuaging their guilt by supporting governmental carbon control programs, carbon offsets, etc. Which is fine, but can't we live in smaller houses? Drink tap water? Ride bikes? Consumerism be damned!

  • the only warming going on here, is in acdemic immaginations - to get more research money, from YOU!

  • So basically once again the "free world" agrees global warming should be fought, but the USA with their corporatism that has bought propaganda against man-made global warming are preventing this move. This reminds me when some Europeans tried to alert the US that there are no WMD in Irak, but no they have been fooled once again by corporations... I trust the world scientists much more than all the fascists American politicians!

  • The Iceburg struck the Titanic? Thought it was the other way around. The Earth is causing the sun to heat up. Thought it was the other way around. Tax payers loosing their houses because their wages are stolen to pay for this nonsense, that is the real danger we should be worrying about!

  • THe sun sets teh temperature fro the Earth! It is all soalr cycles! We should all be doing molecular nuclear fusion - truning water int opower. And leave CO2 to nature!

  • Global warming is fatal fiction made u pby nuclear power, stooge!

  • water oxygen radiation carbon life carbon dioxide

    h20+radiation=life=-oxygen=car­bon=carbondioxide

    h20 radiation life + + +

    oxygen carbon carbondioxide

    =h20=oxygen=radiation=carbon=c­arbon dioxide

  • lol btw the most impartant thing that theary is how to turn carbon dioxide in oxygen

  • Do they still teach about sun spots in grade school?

  • "I'm still waiting for some credible institutional support for any more naysaying comments." Translated: only the ones I agree with are "credible institutions"

  • Look ReduceGHGs I dont doubt that your motivations are well meaning, but what I and others have said from the start is that NOTHING is going to change CO emmissions. If we in the developed world were to stop 100% of greenhouse emissions tomorrow the developing nations would just take up the slack and produce the consumer products we stoped making in even more poluting factories and become richer and start buying and driving cars and polution would end up going up as a result not down.

  • Some of earth's coping periods have cost the existence of 95% of all species. Is that the kind of "coping" that's all right with you?

    Of course the biosphere will change. The point is not to needlessly deteriorate its habitability for humans. As per the best studies available, reducing GHG emissions is necessary. Apathy in the face of this foreseen danger is irrational.

    P.S.  Read about saturation levels of CO2 sinks like the ocean.

  • ReduceGHGs If things are as you and others are saying. What are you or anyone else going to do about it. You ignore the point I made above because there are no answers to the point raised. The global population as a whole will never act on this information. Nor with the populations we have to sustain is it possible to change with current technology.People are starving now how many would starve without fossil fuels driving our agriculture?

  • What am I doing about it? Now that's a bit personal but three thing I'll share.

    1. I encourage policy makers to take aggressive action.

    2. I encourage the election of candidates that understand the crisis.

    3. I teach others, like you, that we all need to learn about the issue.

    4. I reduced my carbon footprint.

    Sure fossil fuels will be with us for their duration. It's a matter of using them in a way that's not self-destructive. We MUST act. Defeatism is counter productive.

  • The link is a review of Schwartz's opinion.

    jamstec . go . jp/frsgc/research/d5/jdannan/c­omment_on_schwartz . pdf

    Despite his lower estimate for sensitivity, Schwartz is still concerned about global warming. Schwartz explained his research by saying "it means that the climate is less sensitive to [CO2] than currently thought, which gives some breathing room, but a lower sensitivity does not solve the long-term problem that would result from continued buildup of [carbon dioxide]."

  • Thanks vsaluki.

    Stephen E. Schwartz of the Brookhaven National Laboratory has produced a peer reviewed paper where he has computed the level of temperature forcing for a doubling of CO2 to be about 1.1C. This means that temperatures will rise about 1 deg C over the next 100 years. Hardly anything to get excited about. Here is the link if you wish to read it for yourself. (Read comment under vsaluki marked as spam for link.)

  • Schwartz concurs that anthropogenic global warming is occurring.

    Schwartz's estimate has been criticized by climate researchers Grant Foster, James Annan, Gavin Schmidt and Michael Mann. In their analysis, Schwartz's method produces climate lag times that are "unrealistically low in comparison to the known behaviour of the models in response to changes in GHG forcing."

    Do some honest research. Vsaluki is a corporate propaganda parrot.

  • Again with the insults, seems you see that as a scientific approach to constructive debate. Why reseach someting you cannot change. The jeanie is out of the lamp and he aint going back in, Something as complex as the climate cannot and will not EVER be fully understood. More CO2 more organisms (algie in the ocean etc) that absorb the CO2 will thrive and absorb it.The earth has coped with hugh variations in the past and it will again.

  • Hey Chris. Ask vsaluki you two can't find ONE credible scientific institution that says humanity is NOT contributing to global warming. Is it a world-wide conspiracy? We've been relying on most of them for many decades. But when you disagree with their findings (based on you "expert" opinion) you say they all lie. Ignorance? Denial? Stupidity? Arrogance? Vested Interests? What?

  • And I'm still waiting for some credible institutional support for any more naysaying comments. They ring hollow without it.

    Here's a couple good places to learn what the best available science is telling us. There's even a piece of corporate propaganda in there just for contrast.

    Google... PRESTIGIOUS SCIENCE ASSOCIATION ISSUES WARNING ON HUMAN-INDUCED GLOBAL WARMING

    Google... Statements on Climate Change - Global Warming Art

  • If the current warming cycle is caused by human activity then how did previous ice ages come to an end?

  • Google... Climate Models & Predicitons for the Future

    This one's easier.

    Google... Ice Age Explanation

  • And more... NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) National Academy of Sciences (NAS) State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC) Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Royal Society of the United Kingdom (RS) American Geophysical Union (AGU) American Institute of Physics (AIP) National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) American Meteorological Society (AMS) Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS)
  • Yeah and where do they all get their funding from?

    How much money is there in saying everything is fine and there are no pressing problems in the world to research?

    One volcanic eruption releases more greenhouse gasses than man kind has since the industrial revolution.The globe heats up, the globe cools down, has since the dawn of time. The only thing that has changed is that there is money in scareing people about it now!

  • Natural events and cycles are taken into consideration. You don't think they'd overlook something like that do you. You focus on funding. Much of the research is funded by governments as it isn't profitable for the private sector. Many of the institutions I listed are NOT gov funded. Besides governments would prefer NOT to have to deal with th GW issue.

    P.S. Consider who funds the propaganda to the contrary and the FACT that there are NO peer reviewed studies to support their contentions.

  • I guess what is being said is why tax ordinary people only. Why only punnish people in countries that have taken steps to reduce the problems. Why not make corporations responsible for the emmissions generated in making their profits regardless of the country their products were produced in. Why tax me 62% for fuel to drive my small car and multinationals nothing? Its all money thats what makes people synical!

  • Sun heats earth temperatures rise. As temperatures rise more water evapourates, more evapouration more cloads. The more cloads the more sun is blocked and reflected back into space so less sun heats the earth. Less sun hits the earth the more cool it becomes. Problem solved and I didnt need the billions Al Gore and his band of social parrasites want.

    I assume my cheque is in the mail?

  • Chris you have opinions and some names like "moron" to throw around but you provide NOTHING to back it up.

    Again, EVERY credible scientific institution confirms that humanity is contributing to global warming and the consequences may be dire. You probably haven't read what they are telling us. Why not? Afraid of learning the truth? Think you know better than they do. Get real and do some reading.

    FMI... UCSUSA(dot)org

  • I though the owness of proof in the real scientific community was on the people who were putting forward the theory not those who remain sceptical until they can see the proof. Oh I forgot the people putting forward this theory (like Al Gore) are NOT real scientists. I forgot this is just VOODOO science. Besides what I have questioned so far is the motives behind this theory and the ability to make the changes necessary if ever required.

  • The scientific community has demonstrated time and time again. Yes, proof. The issue is that naysayers say it isn't happening so the owness shifts to them to back up what they say. News Flash --> Al Gore is NOT the source of the science and neither is voodoo. ALL CREDIBLE institutions basically conclude the same.

    I noticed you provide NOTHING to back up a naysaying opinion. I'm not surprised.

    For those that want to learn more about this try the following site... UCSUSA(dot)org

  • OK You provide me with funding and resources on a dollar for dollar basis to support an opposing arguement. Im sure I can find the experts to back me up. As for proof, the climate is so complex the only true way of getting that is when it is too late and what this theory proposes becomes reality. Taxing me and giving it to Al Gore wont help! Moving polution emmissions to developing nations wont help.

  • I'll be happy to provide you with a list of the many institutions. They span the globe. If you choose you can look up their funding sources. Many are well know, are considered very reliable, and they date back over 100 years.

    The institutions that don't agree that humanity is contributing to global warming are typically funded by the oil industry, corporate interests, or corporate think tanks. I've researched it.

    Give taxes to Al Gore? What tha?

  • FYI... Here are a few. There are many more. NO credible institutions say otherwise. Academia Brasiliera de Ciências (Bazil) Royal Society of Canada Academié des Sciences (France) Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany) Indian National Science Academy Accademia dei Lincei (Italy) Science Council of Japan Russian Academy of Sciences Royal Society (United Kingdom) National Academy of Sciences (United States of America) Australian Academy of Sciences
  • So this is proven is it? HA! Couldnt be the sun going through a active phase? Couldnt be a natural cycle? So anyone who doubts man is causing global warming has to prove it! Not the other way around?

    The earth has been many times hotter than it is now and it has been much colder. That is why the creatures that live there have the ability to migrate, adapt or modify their environment(Making burrows to escape heat or cold).No scam is going to change the facts.

  • Perhaps you misunderstand. I'm speaking of the specific data, analysis, and conclusions from the most credible scientific institutions. These studies ARE proof. There is no such proof to the contrary only a few opinions and propaganda that influence the ignorant and gullible.

    Again, no kidding there are natural cycles but there has never been 6.5 billion humans dumping 70 million tons of waste into the atmosphere on a daily basis. Think there are no consequences? You're not thinking.

  • Volcanos have dumped many millions of times that into the atmosphere throughout history. That is why the earth has natural feedback processes. If it didnt there would have been a thermal run away incident during one of the millions of massive eruptions that the earth has experienced over the hundreds of millions of years that it has existed. Only humans would be so arrogent to think that they can be so dominant over the planet they inhabit.

  • Your opinion isn't worth much, sorry. It demonstrates arrogence in an apparent belief that you know better than what ALL the credible scientific institutions have concluded.

  • So when you are proven wrong you begin with the personal attacks. All true scientists encourage debate and opposing opinions as this is the only reliable path to reach the truth. All the institutions you have quoted have a vested interests in getting increased funding. There are just as many who remain sceptical but do not get the reconition as there is no money in it.

  • Who's been proven wrong? The naysayers certainly have been. The evidence is overwhelming. That excuse is pretty tired; saying that ALL of the scientific institutions falsify conclusions for more funding. Silly. "It's a world-wide conspiracy!" The quickest way to END a career in this field is to lie about your analysis. And, many don't depend on grants for their work.

    You again provided NO credible support. Can't find any? THINK! Why can't you?

  • Well said but I think this was aimed at me.

    When scientists are advocating that manufacturing should be done in countries where the resources are(to reduce transport polution and spillage accidents) and where emision standards are the highest,I will believe that they act with good intentions. But more taxes for research grants for an unconfirmed theory without adressing the real problem, just moving the polution from one place to another. This reaks of self interest by the researchers.

  • Its a funny thing this economic greenyism. In Australia we ship raw materials half way around the world in poluting bulk cargo ships. To have them processed in countries with little or no emmission standards by people working for below poverty wages. Then ship finished products back half way around the world to be sold back to us. Thats fine by governments but when I fill my car I pay 62% tax on fuel because I am causing pollution. GO FIGURE! WE ARE MORONS ARE WE NOT!

  • Read what the experts have to say about global warming. Only fools babble on with uninforms opinions.

    Google... PRESTIGIOUS SCIENCE ASSOCIATION ISSUES WARNING ON HUMAN-INDUCED GLOBAL WARMING

    Google... Statements on Climate Change - Global Warming Art

  • Remember the Y2K computer bug. Planes were going to fall from the sky, cities plunged into darkness, banking system melt down and society brought to its knees. What really happened a few already exceedingly rich computer geeks got even more exceedingly richer all hale Mr Gates. We are being played for suckers again. The more we learn from history, the more we realise we dont learn from history.

  • Chris

    If you think we are "being played for suckers" where is your evidence? I have seen no credible scientific institution that concludes humanity is NOT contributing to climate change. ALL basically agree anthropogenic global warming is occurring. ALL peer reviewed studies (that I know of) also basically concur.

    Again, on what do you base your opinion? Some corporate/oil funded group or some corporate think tank?

    Please explain.

    To get better informed try UCSUSA(dot)org

  • Evidence? I launch boat at boat ramp,The water is at the same place each high tide and low tide at same time of year. I was wearing a jumper last week and its the middle of our summer. Maybe developed nations have the luxury of believeing in fairy tales but do you really thing developing nations or the third world are going to give a crap about this non sense. All this will do is move the polution and wealth from one part of the world to another.

  • How do you spell Emissions Trading? Another well thought out scheme. To help emerging nations industry. Oh and I didn't mention that industry used to be in the United states. If something is repeated often by many, young and easily influenced people will believe it to be fact. Stupid people in large groups.

  • American Association for the Advancement of Science

    Founded in 1848, AAAS is the world's largest general scientific society, and publisher of the journal, Science. The society serves 262 affiliated societies and academies of science, and reaches 10 million individuals.

    See what they have to say about GW. Google...

    Climate change is a "threat to society" says largest scientific body

    ALL peer reviewed studies concur. Remaining in denial it's a no-brainer.