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  • I get chills during East from the west

  • we christians seek out these songs of worship for a variety of reasons. some of us feel distant from God, some of us merely want to worship, some of us stumple across them as if guided to them, the reasons go on. maybe you saw this vid and you thought it would be fun to rant on it. or maybe. just maybe. you answered God's calling just as thousands before you.

    *for he so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son*

    Jesus's sacrifice was for you as well as me.

    God bless you.

  • i think people who say, "you cant see or touch god, so he is not real." well, you can't see or touch your brain, therefore you must not have one. We'll be praying for you.

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  • I was at their concert in Oslo kristensenter :)

  • Simplesmente perfeita a musica

    e a banda tbm...Gosto muito das

    musicas deles,melhor ainda se

    tratando de musicas abençoadas

    q nos traz PAZ e alegrias...Glória Deus!

  • "I often had to run very quickly to be on time, and from being a fleet runner was generally successful; but when in doubt I prayed earnestly to God to help me, and I well remember that I attributed my success to the prayers and not to my quick running, and marvelled how generally I was aided." -Charles Darwin-

    On another occasion he wrote, “I never gave up Christianity until I was forty years of age.” He turned 40 in 1849. -Charles Darwin-

  • (Darwin WAS Christian) Darwin's theory came up because Darwin lost his daughter in an accident i believe and was so mad at God because of that and wanted to deny him.

  • Darwin said if my theory is not liable I want YOU to trash it throw it away and deny it

  • I know a lot of atheist people, actually one of my closest friends claims to be atheist. He doesn't believe in God and thinks i am an idiot for believing in what i do. But he does know one thing, for some odd reason good things (blessings) are constantly happening to Me and the other christian believers we hang out with.

  • Blessings, Miracles, and the Supernatural, sorry dude, there is no such things. Never has been, never will be.

  • I undersatnd if your objection is whether these choices are informed or not, however, God wants everyone to be saved (1Timothy2:4) He will not trick those whom He loves and has called by name into making the wrong choices. There is no lie in Him. Lies come from the father of lies a.k.a satan

  • We are back at the subject of freewill, God created all beings with choices, the choice to obey or disobey. Satan was beautiful, but sinned against God by his disobedience. I know what you mean, like how can there be inperfection within perfection, right?! However, God created beings with the capacity to love. Love has be given freely, by choice. By creating choice, God created the possibility that His beings could choose to love Him, to serve Him, or to serve themselves.

  • elvismilk, it would seem that you have decided upon your viewpoint. Perhaps your questions were rhetorical. However, you asked some big questions which warranted large answers....maybe I could have done so having used fewer quotations, but they are relevant to the discussion. Adam and Eve were faced with a choice to obey or disobey, and chose the latter. God forewarned them of the consequences of this, but did not take away their right to choose. This does not mean that they did not understand

  • If you don't understand the question, then how can you be expected to figure out what is the correct decision? You can't have it both ways, lah, having choice but not understanding what you are choosing. "you will die" is incomprehensible to an immortal being.

  • Some people are seeking the truth and sadly, some are just seeking dissension and to argue, instead of wanting to discuss things with a view to learning the truth.

    I call the arguers "trolls."

    One of the goals of a troll is to waste the time of the believers.

    Discernment is a good thing. 

    :D

  • i can't help but chuckle at these post and then feel a bit sad. remember CHRISTIANS John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through him might be saved. Love them like Jesus: and elvismilk, my family and i will be praying for you. don't balk at it what can it hurt. HAVE A GREAT DAY

  • @eleam05 Do not forget John 3:18

    "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already..."

  • Obviously the Scripture I quoted was meant to be ....giving us right standing with GOD not Gid!!!!

  • Romans 5:21 So just as sin ruled over all people and brought them to death, now God's wonderful grace rules instead, giving us right standing with Gid and resulting in eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord

  • The Good News is there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus!!

    Revelation 7:10 And they were shouting with a mighty shout, "Salvation comes from our God who sits on the throne and from the Lamb!". Revelation 7:17 For the Lamb on the throne will be their Shepherd . He will lead them to springs of life-giving water. And God will wipe every tear from their eyes."

  • Romans 9:25 'Those who were not my people, I will now call my people. And I will love those whom I did not love before. (Paul writes this as fulfillment God's prophecy through the Old Testament prophecy of Hosea)

  • But when the Father sends the Advocate my representative- that is the Holy Spirit - he will teach you everything and will remind you of everything I have told you John 14:26. 1Corinthians 2:10 But is was to us that God revealed these things to us by his Spirit . For his Spirit searches out everything and shows us God's deep secrets.

  • Hey ElMilkdud, your fraudulent attitude is a step up from no where. Do you understand extreme heat? These are pressurized statements that pass the blood brain barrier, enlightening those who have little or no sense. You bag alot of wind and make no sense. Your busted, the glass has shattered. You are now seen in true light, your nakedness reveals that all that you know is held in a miniscule vial of self worth void of understanding. Class out, you are dismissed.

  • Understanding extreme heat and having a glass bag shatter is enlightening how? Class out, yet you still sit in your chair confused, why is that? Your apologetics technique requires nothing more than faith in the invisible, never been proven to exist, please stop with the contemptuous philosophical attempt, you sound like a bastard child of William F. Buckley Jr.

  • Okay, everybody, stop arguing with this sorry excuse for a human being. You're giving him exactly what he wants. He's a little kid trapped in the aging body of a 44 year-old, and he's not going to learn anything, nor will he listen.

    He wants to fight, so don't give him one.

  • So sympathetic Frizz, am I as sorry as the imbecile universe creator that allows innumberable miscarrigages in pregnant women's wombs? Jesus would be infuriated with your attitude Frizz, talk about a person who could handle antagonism.

  • God Did create us google this word Laminin you will see that God did create us

  • Does anyone know where Mark Hall gets that awesome shirt he wears that's black and has the white crosses on them?

  • Hey! I have a question for you guys... in Revelation 6:12 it says...

    "The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red."

    Does that mean the sun and the moon will be up at the same time? Because I got this email about a month or two ago, and it said that mars will be infront of the moon making it look like a bloody red moon... do you guys catch what I"m saying?

  • I love all your songs in this album...sooo inspiring. Thanks for sharing your music to the whole world. Keep rockin' for the Lord!

  • Amazing...Never really took much note of this band but after caming across East to West. I will be getting album.. God is truly using your guys for His Glory. Love it!

  • Meet Brazilian band (BANDA ÁGATA) music "life song"

  • I love this album so good!

  • casting crowns have such integrity and are what all the body of christ should be. I am ministered to o so much

  • 96% of teens wont stand up for God....copy and paste if ur one of the 4% who will...

  • It's not what you say, but what you do that matters.

  • NO WAY CASTING CROWNS ROCKING A DUNDER MIFFLIN SHIRT!! HAAHAHHAHAHAHA AMAAZZZZIIING! is this a preview for the live dvd? cuz i just bought havent gotten around to watching it yet tho =(

  • what r u talking about r u a christian?

    because i know christians dont believe in things like that

    we depend on Gods power and what God wants us to do

  • I'm sorry for that comment. It wasn't me. Apparently someone used my ID. Your right this is stupid. I will have to talk to whomever did this.

  • YEAAA

  • I bought this cd last week and i love it every single song is so amazing and is about jesus. Praise the lord.

    If you out there thinkin about buying this album DO IT

    God Bless

  • The Message is so important,

    but equally important is

    what we do with the Message.

  • The message being? Oh yeah I know this one. A father(you know the universe creator guy), Mr. super smart, sends his kid to be killed, actually plans it out, has prophets mention it. And this plan is to resolve us of something his daughter did in a garden. LOL Give me the test God, that you gave Eve, I'll do better than her and save the human race from sin. LOL

  • Man, you crack me up elvismilk, think of doing stand-up one day?

    God just gave His test again right now, except you just failed it. "Oh, big deal, " you say, "now everyone hates me woob-dee-doo." "This God who apparently is almighty doesn't lay a hand on me when I sin and mock him, and all of these losers are here saying that He is so good." You say, "If there was a God, why doesn't he kill me right now, I'd be happy to go to Hell."

    RIGHT?

  • Sorry to break it to ya, but your "theistic mindset" is terrible. You pretend to care for earthquake victims and miscarriages when trying to prove God is not real. If you really care, why don't you do anything about it? You say you do do something about it? WOW, then why not become a Christian? You're such a good person anyway!

    If you care so much about saving lives and helping others out, why not pass the test that God is giving you. You know, you might be the one whose failing it over again.

  • I never said I cared for victims and miscarriages, I just site them in case you think your God prizes life for some reason. Remember your God is the worlds greatest abortionist, not me. I have no clue about designing a fetus so that it can dissolve after fertilization. Mr. Universe creator apparently does.

  • the reason miscarriages occur is sin. in the original perfect creation miscarriages obviously werent a part of it but now sin has affecetd the world unfortuantely stuff like miscarriages happen

  • And a full term baby popping out of the womb is because of sin too? Where is the distinction?

  • ??? a baby being born is sin? hows that? obviously miscarriages are a result of sin because its death and death is a result of sin

  • This is obvious for what reason?

  • because its death and death is a result of sin!!!

  • How is death the result of sin? If that is the case then death must have been before sin, because how would a God know death, how would eternity know death, how does immortal know death, so what other circumstance made death available for sin to inhabit?

  • ur comment is rather confusing. of course death is a result of sin because death (which is bad) wasnt in God's original creation but has came into creation as a result of the curse and sin. obviously death wasnt part of God's original PERFECT creation

  • Rather confusing? Uh, let's see, God is everything, so something not part of God's original plan came from where then? The answer must be, from God, since he is responsible for everything, that would include death, period.

  • God is not everything. he's not a tree for example or a blade of grass. God is not responsible for death and suffering we are as it was our sin that brought these things into the world

  • In the beginning God was all there was, correct? There were no trees then, correct? We have trees now, and its not the beginning anymore, guess what God is a tree. He would be all, everything, and nothing else, period.

  • no a tree is a tree God created the tree he isnt the tree

  • Ok class, first even though God has never been proven to exist, let's try and straighten out some nutjobs Christians.

    1) God is the beginning of everything

    2) An architect is not the house

    3) God was eternally first

    4) Trees were not before God

    5) Trees are after God

    6) God is eternal, the beginning, and everything must come from him

    7) Therefore, God is a tree, period

  • everything gets its origin from God but it doesnt mean that the created thing is God, are you saying this coumputer is God. of course not thats ludicrous!!!! are u a christian?

  • Everything originally from God?, then yes God is this computer, thankfully since I don't believe in God, this computer being him is absurd. I was obviously pointing out to you(but you kind of didn't noticed) how absurd the notion of a creating God is. Our we in his image creating airplanes and computers because of Eve's sin?, in other words, is creating a result of original sin?

  • this is an absurd discussion God created the tree he isnt itself the tree. thats like arguing that bcos a human made this laptop the human is a laptop. ridiciulous absurd accusation from urself. No, we make airplanes and computers bcos God gave us the brains to work out how to make this stuff, and we are creative bcos he is creative, since we are made in his image.

  • 1)Water, temp change, molecules change to ice, and vice versa, the ice isn't gold, it is the solid form of water with a change in it's molecules.

    2)God was the beginning, not frozen God, not liquid God, just God, there was nothing else, so if God was all there was, God is all there could be, all is God, you nutjob. Pay attention to the attributes you gave this monster, ok.

  • All I have to say is that since God created everything, including the Law of Conservation of Mass and Matter, and the Law of Constant Composition, he did not have to abide by these laws before he created them.

  • Without creation there can not be evolution Without God we are lost in sin

  • God is involved with evolution just read the old testament again, you will see how God evolves while man attempts to figure out his image.

  • Okay, now that I'm seeing you post on yet another video, attacking the people who believe everywhere you can, now I'm convinced of how pathetic you really are. If you don't like what we believe, then don't watch videos that oppose your view-point.

    You'll never convert anybody to your way of thinking by attacking people like you do.

  • Aren't you amazing? Reason can't convert nutjobs like you, so I attack the way the Jews and German citiizens didn't in WWII, I attack fraud and condemning ideologies, there is no place in society for them, that includes vile and vulgar Christianity.

  • Our ideologies are no more vulgar than you going to youtube videos and attacking people for their beliefs. Jeez-um-Crow, you must have a Messiah Complex or something.

    We AREN'T Hitler, and we don't idolize Hitler, you just want a reason to validate your pathetic actions. It's sad....

  • Hitler is no different than Jehovah in the old testament, he even worships himself just as well.

  • However, you're claiming that we're the violent/vile ones...and you don't even know us.

    Hitler's followers were mindless zombies, who did what he wanted just because he was the leader. We won't go that far. Sure, some do, but that's a minority. Comparing God to Hitler is a repugnant thought anyway. It's only that way if you exclude the New Testament...you see what you want to see, and that's why you're pathetic.

  • God to Hitler, sorry, I was comparing Hitler to God, the OT is Hitler's Mein Kampf. The only way if I exclude the New, are you deprived of your senses? The New is even a better example of God's vulgarity, he has now invented HELL, and even kills his SON, if you see any difference with Hitler you are delusional

  • elvismilk, don't take offence to this just out of curiosity, why did you, an atheist, read the Bible?

  • Let me ask you this instead, why would you think I have not, or never would read the Bible?

  • Just because I would think you wouldn't care what the Bible said.  Was it just curiosity, or to see what was wrong with it so you could reject it? I mean, some Christians haven't even read most of the Bible.

  • Rejecting the Bible as some inspired word from some god thing is not hard to do, I don't win an award, and don't want one. I just wonder about the type of person that believes such rubbish.

  • Of course it seems like rubbish, you don't believe in God. That's the main truth in the Bible and the rest builds on that fact. It all seems like fiction/fairytale if there's no real God, and who believe's fiction, right? But, if you read it believing there might be a God, it makes complete sense and even proves there is a God. At least that's what I've found in my own life.

  • Wrong, it seems like rubbish, because it is utterly absurd. 400 denominations, and you would think this god thing could come up with a language so all humans could understand his holy word. LOL

  • :D God did have a common language in the begginning, then the men decided to build a tower to heaven the Tower of Babel. In their pride they wanted a city that reached the heavens. So, God confused their languages so they couldn't work together anymore. It's amazing how many different dialects there are, isn't it, no other theory explains why there are so many different languages. I love listening to someone from a different country talk, it's so pretty :D

  • What would explain why we all look different? Was there a Humpty Dumpty tower to break us all into pieces of different shapes and colors, LOL.

  • Adaptation, when God changed our languages, we all collected with those who spoke the same one and spread throughout the world. Different shapes is because God doesn't make one the same as the other, which explains why there isn't any of us with the same DNA.

  • I wrote the slantycucumber one, oops, lol, I didn't realize I was on my sisters account, if you want to reply, please reply back to this one. :D

  • You have what is called Don Quixote syndrome. Good luck with that. He believed in the fiction of chivalry and those words killed every atom of reason in his brain, too, just like the fiction of the Bible is killing yours.

  • Don Quixote fought things that weren't real, aren't you doing the same thing because you think God isn't real, why do you fight so hard against Him then?

  • Wrong lyme, windmills, chain gangs and lions are real, what he imagined them to be wasn't, in other words your mind's god thing is playing Quixotic...

  • I feel like Don's squire, who said those were windmills, the only difference is that you don't believe there are, so you rush ahead. Why is it so impossible that there is a God? I mean to me it's seems impossible that the whole universe came out of nothing.

  • Sorry Sancho, but your impossible, inherited island, even for an hour, is still an illusion. The sand grains are not accounted for in the mind of god, and nothings impossible to your god, except a universe created without sin, LOL, sorry, impossible doesn't help your case...

  • The question should be why you feel the universe is impossible without a universe creating god thing?

  • @elvismilk I can and will answer that question if you want me to, but, please answer this first. Why are you trying to convince me there is no God?

  • Because there isn't and 2+2=4, pretty simple stuff actually.

  • @elvismilk hahahahah.,.,.,.,no god? fool!!!! hahahaha even the greatest of the greatest person in the world know that there is god!!! charles darwin even mention god as the creator and denied he's own theory.,.,,.,., think men!!!! do you believe you have a brain???? if yes, why??? have you seen your brain??? same thing about god. you never seen him but you know he's real and even functioning like your brain!!!!

  • So god is some brain thing, or mine even? LOL imbecile!

  • @sashire007 Charles darwin did not renounce his theory. That was the "Lady Hope" thing. Lady Hope pestered Darwin while he was on his deathbed, but he did not renounce his theory. Darwin's cousin, who was at his deathbed, debunked that myth a long time ago. Besides which, Darwin was a deist, not an atheist and not a Christian. He did not become a Christian on his deathbed, and even if he had, the Theory of Evolution is sufficiently well supported to be accepted in scientific circles.

  • @Heteblixem

    If he was brought to the Philippines, he won't be able to finish his theory. :D

  • @animaticToshiue- Evolution is no longer a "theory" but fact. Almost 100% of creditable scientists know evolution is a fact. A theory is a hypothesis that has been tested and after some time if it is proved valid and no other competing theory has evolved, then a theory becomes fact. The modern Theory of Evolution has been observed and proved many times since the times of Charles Darwin. Meaning it has left the 'hypothesis' realm to become an established theory, that is to say: a fact.

  • @Heteblixem

    It's not been declared yet. It STILL is a theory. Any evidence will further its status - accepted or disproved. It has to become a law for people to call it a 'fact.'. Still, there are missing links. Still, there are questions. It IS STILL IS A THEORY.

  • @animaticToshiue - Just to cite a few examples of evolution in action: bacteria antibiotic resistance, and the avian influenza. Every other observation, from the fossil record to molecular genetics to wildlife observations, have all fit soundly with evolution predictions.

    What's more, evolution is used by humankind for such things like artificial selection, genetic engineering, vaccine production and computer science (evolutionary and genetic algorithms).

  • @Heteblixem

    I also find it weird how organisms they say belongs to the 'ancestor' kind and yet exist today. And even scientists are amazed to discover new species or rather species they've just recently seen and named(especially those found in the ocean), species they thought are long gone and 'evolved.' We still know not EVERYTHING concerning all species to conclude that EVOLUTION answers our question of how these crazily wonderful variety came to be. :)

  • tAlso, remember that one of the characteristics of LIVING things is ADAPTATION. It's normal for bacterias, even humans to change something in them to ADAPT to the need of their current environment. :)

  • @animaticToshiue - It is hilarious when Christians assert as an argument that a designer is the best explanation to a set of facts.

    There is not 1 fact in all of existence that is best explained by the explanation that God is the best answer.

  • @Heteblixem

    How did you know I'm a Christian? :D And, I'm not saying anything about God..I'm just stating the FACT that Evolution is a THEORY, NOT an established scientific law. Hmmm?? Why are you suddenly bringing up the 'designer' stuff? Could it be that you just want to reject God and then the theory of evolution will be excuse? :)

  • @animaticToshiue - "How did you know I'm a Christian? :D And, I'm not saying anything about God.."

    aren't you a Xtian?

  • @animaticToshiue You obviously know nothing about which you speak. When talking within the scope of science, 'theory' is used to explain a wide phenomenon-which is seen as fact. A Law, or principle explains a specific phenomenon. Its makes us look ignorant when Christians use the 'its still a theory' argument. I'm a bio major, and am not sold on macro-evolution, but there are a lot of things I agree with. Look into science before condemning it because its provided the means for our modern lives.

  • @animaticToshiue You agree that cells are real, correct? Well, guess what, that is due to Cellular Theory. No one questions it though.

  • @Heteblixem

    Hey, I think our discussion has been made out of misunderstanding terms.. well, that's for my case.. I wonder about yours. :D

  • @Heteblixem

    If he was brought to the Philippines, he won't be able to finish his theory. :D After all, it's just a theory and not a scientific law. :p

  • @animaticToshiue - Evolution is a theory, and no less valid than the Theory of Gravity or the Theory of Relativity. "Theory" does not mean "guess" or "hypothesis".

  • @Heteblixem

    the gravity is NOT a theory. It's a law already. :)

  • Believe what you want to believe, but stop attacking people. There's no reason for it

  • Sorry Galation, but the new testament is the reason, and scripture predicts it. So I am just fulfilling prophecy, so please wipe your tears away and remember the pain of Jesus, ok, nutjob.

  • Wow....you DO have a Messiah Complex. Big, bad Nick; the 44 year-old supposed savior of the world. Could you POSSIBLY make less sense??

    YOU are not fulfilling prophecy at all, just irrationally justifying how pathetic you really are. Attacking teenagers and young adults, trying to discredit everybody who does not agree with your philosophy.

    You say on your profile that you're done working...is that because nobody would hire you for more than a week before they got tired of your crap?

  • Diverting from the issue, in no way makes Christianity true. Your God is the king of irrational justification so thanks for the compliment. I discredit fraudulent beliefs, correct, guess what though, I don't burn nutjobs and I don't send them to HELL, big difference, whether they are children or adults.

  • Fraudulent beliefs? Like the ones that tell you that because you haven't seen proof, then it doesn't exist?

    You're an idiot, and irrationally justifying your cause to attack teenagers....ON YOUTUBE!!

    Face it, you're nothing but a pathetic worthless waste of space who has too much self-created time on his hands because you refuse to work. GET A JOB, and disappear. Maybe then, people would listen to you...you have no credibility right now.

  • Where it states that a job equals credibility, I want you to point that absolute out for me. I attack Christian nutjobs, age makes no difference, pathetic is pathetic no matter how many crosses you wear. Has Mr. Invisible talked to you today?

  • A job does not credibility create. However, somebody who sites around on Youtube all day, refusing to work because he gets his rocks off attacking other people for their beliefs, so spends his time doing just that takes away a lot of your credibility...especially when you're over 40.

  • You just described the man in the pulpit on Sundays. Most of those nutjobs are over 40 also. Does their ascension to the stage make their sermons any less contemptuous? I am satisfied it doesn't.

  • Wow, reducing yourself to call a 15 year old a nutjob. Real classy my friend.

  • Thanks, real class though is a person sending their son to their death, so that other people's sin can be forgiven, that's class, no actually that is vile . But oh well, nutjobs keep soaking up this intellectual vulgarity like ocean sponges.

  • If he abided then they were preexisting. If he blinked them up out of thin air, then the opposite already existed. In other words something was already positive for God to figure out the negative. There can't be God and the anti-God, but that is the way you nutjobs have recorded your beliefs, period.

  • You know that by putting all these comments you show how ignorant you are... like really....you don't hurt me or anyone who reads the messages...you only hurt your self...we actually have a benefit of reading your messages...that is we have one more reason to pray for this generation...GOD BLESS YOU!!!!

  • Hey, that's great, pat yourself on the back, Jesus centuries ago spoke of the generation of vipers, I guess nothing has changed, some messiah, no wonder the Jews still don't believe.

  • You nutjobs have been doing that for centuries, it is not working.

  • Miscarriages are not due to sin. "The wage of sin is death" in Romans doesn't mean that just because you sin you die,or just because you die you sinned. The death in Romans is the other meaning of the word death. "death" is used in 2 different senses in the bible. "Death" as in a physical death, and Death as in an utter death physically and spiritually (also meaning a disconnection from God, a death which you will never rise from.)

    The baby that dies is a physical death. not because of sin.

  • If there is a spiritual death and resurrection, why did the tomb have to be empty? I don't see dead Christians walking the earth, well at least excluding the brain dead still breathing ones

  • the wages of sin are both physical and spiritual death. physical death came into the world as a result of our sin, it was not a part of the original perfect creation

  • Really, perfect creation?, how do you know about that exaggeration? Are you omniscient? How would an eternal being create mortal death? Wouldn't he manifest eternity only?

  • Well, the Bible says that the original creation was perfect and that death came into the world as a result of sin therefore death wasnt a part of the origina\l creation

  • Sorry, but scripture describes creation as "good" , not perfect. So where was death floating around? if sin made it appear?, if God is the good creator, he is also the sin and death creator. If you disagree, then there must be another omnipotent creator.

  • first of all are you a christian? second, yes "good" but good in God's eyes not ours and the bible says God is good ie perfect. no, we are the creators of sin and death as they are the results of our sin

  • I know the fraudulent answer to sin, trust me, you theological nutjobs have been pitching the idea that it's man's fault for centuries. Your God parent gave Eve poison, he labeled fruit, and made it taste good. Pretty tempting, Mr. tempter, but oh well, back to the perfect being creating a not so perfect world, the evidence is in, and your God is guilty of nonperformance according to his definition.  He cannot exist.

  • no the Bible says its sin that has caused the evil in the world. FACT. get ur facts right mate the devil tempted adam and eve and God let them be tempted to see if they would obey him

  • Fact- choice, given to Eve to disobey, hello, can't you see "disobey" would be a sin, therefore sin exists before Eve disobeyed God, period , no way around this contradiction. Additionally she would not understand the word "die", she was immortal. Chew on that for awhile you moral imbecile and insult to reason.

  • Eve was given choice whether or not to disobey God because she like all humans had free will. She would understand the word die because before the fall adam and eve were perfect so when God said "youll die if you take that fruit" they had the perfect vocabulary to understand. free will to obey or disobey God isnt a result of sin. disobeying is sinful and they hadnt disobeyed God until after they sinned

  • Sorry, but Eve did disobey before the fall, and in theory, would not have been able to. And understanding the word "die" like I have stated with confidence, would have been impossible if Eve was immortal before the FALL, if you think I am wrong, then explain how she could have known what death was before the FALL? I know it would have been impossible, but I will listen to your attempt to prove me wrong.

  • satan was thrown to earth and was there tempting Eve .... through giving in to the temptation...all human beings are born into sin. Eve would understand the meaning of death...we certainly do, It is God who gives understanding. God's ways are not our ways

  • God's ways are unknowable, yet you know them? How? Plus we understand death, correct, but how would Eve? She couldn't, so you need to think really hard on how to explain how she could.

  • When Eve gave into temptation by eating fruit from the tree of knowledge...she therefore had understanding, as did Adam hence why they hid themselves with fig leaves, when they realised they were naked. God warned them not to eat it, but they listened to satan's temptation. By doing this, God pronounced, 'By the sweat of your brow will you have food to eat until you return to the ground from which you were made. For you were from dust and to dust you will return (Genesis 3:19)

  • Hello, "Lead us not into temptation", God did exactly that, he provided no protection for Adam and Eve. Realizing they were naked, hello God created them naked what's to be embarrassed of? A immortal being can't understand what "to die" means, period, therefore she would not understand the command from God. And stop quoting scripture, all it does is help the side of anthropomorhpism, and hurt your case.

  • Regarding sin already being in the world before Eve chose to disobey, I believe you made a correct observation the tree was called the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, which would mean that evil had already arrived. That is satan had already been thrown out of heaven by God for his rebellion against God. All the heavenly beings have freewill regarding obedience and disobedience.

  • An angel cannot disobey, when the world is created perfect, by a perfect being, disobeying is not an option, period, it would be impossible, therefore making your God impossible.

  • God is perfect, yes. But that doesnt mean they had no choice but to be perfect. He gave them an option. The fact God is perfect doesnt take away that option. How you came about to the conclusion that a perfect God is utterly incapable of giving his creation the option of being perfect or not is well beyond me.

  • Beyond you, hello, how would you know what perfection is? How can you come to a conclusion about what perfection is? If there is an option to not be perfect , then there is a nonperfect option, created by guess who? your god thing.

  • If we didn't create the universe, then morality from God is created from God. But, since I believe God doesn't exist, technically I would agree with your statement that we are the creators of sin.

  • God created lucifer the music angel and he wanted to take Gods spot so God threw him out and he brought

    brought sin into the world.

    God sent his son so we wont be slaves to sin.

    when it comes down to it

    history doesnt matter, arguing isnt gonna help

    its your life and your relationship with God

    only you can decide for your self

    il pray for ya bro.

  • God is lucifer, you sick moral imbecile, so what's your point, I know already the Bible wouldn't be any different if it was written by Satan, ok!

  • Apparently you dont know the Bible,

    and arguing wont help, so eventually you will find out the hard way.

  • Sorry deja, not knowing Greek, Latin or Hebrew are my perceptible weaknesses in regards to knowing the early translations of fraudulent divine inspiration, after that my knowledge will far surpass yours anytime anywhere.

  • haha okay.

    what ever floats your boat.

  • Correct and my boat of reason floats because of physics, your mastless sailboat sinks with illusory mathematics.

  • lol you make absolute nonsense

  • Strange because you are the master of understanding nonsense yet seem bewildered when confronted with it, how is it that you understand miracles, yet are confounded with simple math. Christianity equals 2+2=5, period.

  • Then why are some babies born?, why aren't they all miscarriages, why does death and sin seek the womb?

  • not evry birth is a miscarriage bcos God wants the human race to still exist im just sayinn that the only reason thr are miscarriages is bcos of sin

  • Stand ups a grind, I don't have what it takes. Your God has never laid a hand on any human, ever, the only hand has been laid by another fellow human, or Lion if you happen to be drunk at a zoo heckling the big cats.

  • How many times can I say I like your songs, I like your music.

    But I love our LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST.

  • What is the song that plays at 1:20 ?

  • It is the title song to the album..the Altar and the Door

  • Omg Is Casting Crowns Coming To Georgia Anytime? I LOVE their music. Their songs also have great meanings. I would love ot hear them preach in person or hear them sing atleast.

  • The Altar and The Door

  • melhor album BRAZIL ... THE ALTAR AND THE DOOR

  • im going to see them in may with my youth group, i bet the concert is going to be so awesome :D