Gaza's nervous wait for aid - 13 Nov 2008

[libyanbunnyyy]

ISRAEL is the true TERRORIST! everyone knows it. the media lies and lies and only the stupid will believe it. they work for the one ne-w w00rld go.verntment! but Allah is much greater than them alll.. VIVA LA PALESTINE, the world watched, and God is with u <3

[SUFILAZ]

bu assagilik millete cok acirdim ama ACIMIYORUM ARTIK CANLARI CEHENNEME

hitler bunlari kizartmakla ne iyi yapmis keske köküne kadar bitirseydi bu assagilik mahluklari..

[EstevanL]

If you live in a besieged area dont have fucking children

[libyanbunnyyy]

@EstevanL if u live in an area where pple stole illegal land that wasnt theirs, well maybe they F-INGshould be there retard.

[AbilityPwn]

bla bla bla all that shit, israel want any comn peace.

we want live like you,

we are defence are country to live with peace.

[oddfielder]

"And now, after what mostly organized crime jews did on 9/11, the US hasn't killed every last one of you roaches once and for all."

wow, I haven't heard that one yet!

[oddfielder]

It's amazing how smoothly those newscasters glide over the fact that Hamas is a totalitarian regime making all of this possible.

[ThisBoyTV]

Before you quote Fox or CNN read the Law on the duties of the occupier.

[oddfielder]

You know, you can still hate Israel without loving Hamas. Open your eyes.

[ThisBoyTV]

Practice what you preach

[oddfielder]

And what is that?

[ThisBoyTV]

"Hamas is a totalitarian regime..."

Then I gather that anybody elected in Israel is also the same. Hamas would never have been elected to office if the food and supplies etc were not cut off by Israel in 2005.

[oddfielder]

You got it backwards, dear. Also, an election does not preclude a totalitarian regime. A totalitarian regime is defined first and foremost as one that has zero tolerance for opposition. Executing and exiling members of the minority party (Fatah) would be a good example. Does Likud execute member of Kadima? I don't think so.

[ThisBoyTV]

Totalitarian - the creation of a state by means of propaganda and disinformation by the people who want total control. Does Hamas have a state controlled media and armed forces?

You said it, the Fatah, is the minority party. Then deal with the ones who are in the majority and come up with a peaceful solution.

Nice the way you stepped over the food supply being cut off before Hamas was elected.

[oddfielder]

"Totalitarian - the creation of a state by means of propaganda and disinformation by the people who want total control. Does Hamas have a state controlled media and armed forces?"

The answer is yes. And about Fatah, I suppose you don't mind them being killed since they are a minority. Interesting philosophy.

[oddfielder]

Ever wonder why those groceries get so expensive? Could it be because Hamas steals them in order to sell like they did with the aid supplied by the UN just now? But that of course must be Israel's fault too, it being so evil and making Hamas so desperate and cruel.

[ARIK200]

mitralatif you are sick ass mother fucker

america finds us peacefull not like arabic people all they want is war -.- and u mother fucker need to get a brain and grow up

[AaronHai1]

On the day prior to the start of the Israeli operation, a Palestinian from the Gaza Strip was admitted to a hospital in Israel for medical treatment for a severe wound -- inflicted upon him by a stray Hamas rocket which had been fired at Israel.

What other country would treat its enemies in own hospitals ­­ which Israel does routinely with Palestinians from Gaza -- even when they are wounded as a direct consequence of their own side trying to murder yet more Israelis?

[oxyking]

Aaron.

Which other country would bomb it's onw doctors family? Killing his children?

ISREAL! FUCKING TERRORIST STATE!

[300ZXturboXX]

thats is the least Israel can do for Palestinian. Besides the fact palastanian are barricaded by 100FT walls and check point in every 300 yards and homes being demolished. Israelis dont stop there they bomb there religious sites, schools, hospitals. Even an UN building. Palestinian are trapped in there like animals. Inside there own land which is occupied by Israel. Yah and your bitching about home made rockets which doesnt even have awarheads. This is called resistance look it up is dictionary

[AaronHai1]

Hamas = "Hide Amongst Mosques And Schools"

[minskfalastine]

Ahhh wrong...

You uneducated Brats need to learn the real meaning...

Hamas = Palestinian Resistance movement....

While you're young...

I won't blame you, when you older think of how racist you should be.

[mitralatif]

israel is the wife of usa n gets fucked by them to get what they want...a dialogue:

ISRAEL=huny i will not have sex with you if you dont help me get guns,I am jewish,I am the best,I only want jews to exist

USA arghhhh...so u mean i cant fuck you tonight if i dont help u?ok den...i will give u guns

ISRAEL thank you now u can fuck me...

this is how their relationships work like...

and recently the coward israel knows he cant do nefing to iran n he said,please help bush,den i will let u fuk

[Sintabon]

In a different perspective, some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.

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[Sintabon]

These figures mean that deaths Arab-Israeli fighting since 1950 amount to just 0.06 percent of the total number of deaths in all conflicts in that period. More graphically, only 1 out of about 1,700 persons killed in conflicts since 1950 has died due to Arab-Israeli fighting.

[Sintabon]

27. 240,000 Columbia, 1946-58; 1964-present

28. 200,000 Yugoslavia, Tito regime, 1944-80

29. 200,000 Guatemala, 1960-96

30. 190,000 Laos, 1975-90

31. 175,000 Serbia against Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, 1991-1999

32. 150,000 Romania, 1949-99 (own people)

[Sintabon]

20. 430,000 Vietnam, after the war ended in 1975 (own people; boat refugees)

21. 400,000 Indochina: against France, 1945-54

22. 400,000 Burundi, 1959-present (Tutsi/Hutu)

23. 400,000 Somalia, 1991-present

24. 400,000 North Korea up to 2006 (own people)

25. 300,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1990s

26. 300,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against

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[Sintabon]

15. 875,000 Algeria: against France 1954-62 (675,000); between Islamists and the government 1991-2006 (200,000)

16. 850,000 Uganda, 1971-79; 1981-85; 1994-present

17. 650,000 Indonesia: Marxists 1965-66 (450,000); East Timor, Papua, Aceh etc, 1969-present (200,000)

18. 580,000 Angola: war against Portugal 1961-72 (80,000); after Portugals retreat (1972-2002)

19. 500,000 Brazil against its Indians, up to 1999

[Sintabon]

7. 1,870,000 Cambodia: Khmer Rouge 1975-79; civil war 1978-91

8. 1,800,000 Vietnam War, 1954-75

9. 1,800,000 Afghanistan: Soviet and internecine killings, Taliban 1980-2001

10. 1,250,000 West Pakistan massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh 1971)

11. 1,100,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present

12. 1,100,000 Mozambique, 1964-70 (30,000) + after retreat of Portugal 1976-92

13. 1,000,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88

14. 900,000 Rwanda genocide, 1994

[Sintabon]

3. 4,000,000 Ethiopia, 1962-92: Communists, artificial hunger, genocides

4. 3,800,000 Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa): 1967-68; 1977-78; 1992-95; 1998-present

5. 2,800,000 Korean war, 1950-53

6. 1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)

[Sintabon]

Conflicts since 1950 with over 1000,000 Fatalities*

1. 40,000,000 Red China, 1949-76 (outright killing, manmade famine, Gulag)

2. 10,000,000 Soviet Bloc: late Stalinism, 1950-53; post-Stalinism, to 1987 (mostly Gulag)

[SHMUJEW]

muslims believe that expansion through war is not agression but a fulfillment of the koranic command to spread islam as a way to pieace. So that the resort to force in islam is not war (harb) but rather futuhut acts of opening the world to islam . Harb is a word in islam that is only used to describe the use of force against muslims. Thats why attacks on non muslims are GOOD in islam. Dumb westerners HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT ANY OF THIS AND IT IS PEOPLE LIKE HIM THAT WILL KILL US ALL

[chr0nik2810]

Of couse you will say that, you're a jew! Will you admit that Israel kills innocent people... no you won't.

[avitoldtold]

what would my arabs friends from the "lightened" arab state would do if a terroist group was shooting rockets on their civiliens for seven years? would they put economic pressure in them like israel does. or they were elimineted gaza seneb yaers ago.. (hint:in syria. turkey and jorden and lebnon it is allready happened in the past.. and the responsed was a cruel massecare.)

[TorresD]

"When we say that the Arabs are the aggressors and we defend ourselves ---- that is only half the truth. As regards our security and life we defend ourselves. . . . But the fighting is only one aspect of the conflict, which is in its essence a political one. And politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves." Ben Gurion Righteous Victims, p. 652)

[chardnj]

did she have natural milk???..milk from the mother is better than the milk from israel....

[mercyuponyou]

if the mother is not eating (thanks to the blockade, she is not) then her milk will not have the necessary nutrients the baby needs to survive or protect it from childhood diseases.

[TorresD]

When Menachem Begin used milkcans to blow

up the King David Hotel, did they call him a

terrorist?

[avitoldtold]

actually the all jewish world and the jewish leaders call him a terroist. and you can still bring this one specific terror act in other to try to minimized the thousened of fanatic reliogius islamic terror. good luck!

[TorresD]

Read The Revolt: Story of Irgun

by Menachem Begin.

Righteous Victims by Benny Morris

Palestinian-Israeli Conflict For Beginners

[PaperWitness]

This is called propaganda!!!

Stop bombing Israel and they will allow the trucks in.

Geez, they stop the trucks and in 15 minutes you'd think that Gaza is falling apart.

[harehills786]

KILL THE JEWS BASTREDS

[annanimal6]

israel doesnt want peace. they want land. land. land. land. they want to rid the area of Palestinians and create their own racist jewish only state. The leader of Hamas even said they would recognize Israel and would accept a state w 67 borders. Israel said no. They want all the land and won't stop killing innocent Palestinians until they get it. But they never will.

[TheBeamDoc]

Took the words right out of my fucking mouth.

[ikran2007]

with the support of many ppl around not only by the west.i will pray to allha(god)help palestinians ppl,those who are suffering will always be remine with allah(god).

[shelory]

@annanimal6 what do you want us to live on "air"? water? of cors you need land. why dont you ask the pali brothers to give them back the land they have taken from them. in syria egypt and jordan

[jimiydoorshamLachim]

(6aJames Bennet, "Letter from the Middle East; Arab Showplace? Could It Be the West Bank?" New York Times, (April 2, 2003).

[tassiedev01]

The educated world is with you Palestine.

We must stand against Apartied Israel!

[vivvigirl]

hey, if things are bad in gaza, leave. Go to jordan or another arabian country. These ppl werent in gaza a few years ago. They stole it by terrorism from israel. Maybe if the palestinians stopped shooting missiles at israel they wouldnt be so hostile. These ppl made their own problem. I dont feel sorry for them if their terrorism against israel has caused their situation. Obviously they have money for missiles and bombs. Spend the money on baby milk instead fools.

[alexr0p]

@vivvigirl

You are one sick fascist.

[hotspur2514]

No, Alex. She's actually got a point, which is better than you've done. You've said that collective punishment is a war crime, which is the one intelligent thing you've said (and I'll bet it's the only intelligent thing you've GOT to say, because you heard someone else say it) and the rest is "can only attack" "hella stupid" and "sick fascist".

You're a fuckwit. Stop talking.

[alexr0p]

@hotspurt

I always expect criminal zionists to support each other. After all animal instinct and the smell of Gaza's children blood must excite you, just like the old nazis. Try not to be so predictable 'cause its really boring.

[lyden2006]

Do I seriously have to defend Alex and lay waste to you like I have every other Israeli-supporter? Who actually don't have any clue who are dealing with here. =)

[lyden2006]

vivvi.... your fucking hella stupid.

[hotspur2514]

It's the policies and criminal conduct of Hamas that has lead to children starving in Gaza.

[alexr0p]

@hotspurt2514

Israel is the one applying collective punishment on babies and adults in Gaza. Israel is the only one responsible for this war crime.

[hotspur2514]

And all it would take is an end to rocket attacks out of Gaza, and they're a war crime as well. So, in the midst of all this crime and finger-pointing, wouldn't you try and do the smart thing? If it was going to stop a child dying of starvation? Too bad Hamas are jihadist fuckwits that "gotta look hardarse, all the time" or they might have put 2 and 2 together and saved a lot of their own people, and maybe even won some of their land back.

[lyden2006]

'hotspur' can only attack, he can never properly defend himself without looking like an ass.

[alexr0p]

@hotspurt2514

A ceasefire was in place until murderous Israel decided to kill 7 Palestinians in a raid on Gaza. No one can expect the resistance to stand by while Israel carries out its murderous campaigns against Palestinians.

Nonetheless, the siege on Gaza punishes 1.5 million civilians not involved in military activities of any kind. Your attempt to make all civilians in Gaza responsible for the firing of rockets is baseless and stupid, an attempt at justifying Israel's war crimes.

[hotspur2514]

"murderous Israel" "murderous campaigns"

Would you listen to yourself? Appeals to emotion just make your arguments weak (if you ever make any)

You claim I attempt to "make all civilians in Gaza responsible for the firing of rockets" but that's bullshit. I always stipulate Hamas. I think I've caught you in a lie here, Alex. But why not Pallywood does it all the time.

[alexr0p]

@ hotspurt2514

Do you read what you type or is it a simple copy and paste for you? I don't have to go beyond this page to prove that you lay responsibility on civilians and children in particular for the acts of others.

Try reading what you copy and paste, you might not get caught like that next time.

[alexr0p]

By the way hotspurt2514, since you deny making civilians responsible for the acts of the resistance, why do you support the siege on them?

[hotspur2514]

Quote me, fuckhead.

[alexr0p]

oh darn... gooooolly! Did I get you mad again?

Shame on me!

Go play your propaganda somewhere else where people don't think, somewhere like on Fox channel forums or maybe CNN.

Now scram you zionist scum turdbucket! Go read what you wrote and find out yourself.

[alexr0p]

BTW you still owe us an answer to the last question.

Lets see you answer it.

[alexr0p]

You can add insults with the answer if you wish, after all you are a zionist trash.

[alexr0p]

Just so you don't fake amnesia, here's the question again: since you deny making civilians responsible for the acts of the resistance, why do you support the siege on them?

[jimiydoorshamLachim]

Despite all their criticism, when asked what governments they admire most, more than 80 percent of Palestinians consistently choose Israel because they can see up close the thriving democracy in Israel, and the rights the Arab citizens enjoy there. By contrast, Palstinians place Arab regimes far down the list, and their own Palestinian Authority at the bottom with only 20 percent saying they admire the corrupt Arafat regime in 2003.

[annanimal6]

do you have a link for these stats?

[jimiydoorshamLachim]

last one was sourced, other people are very notable

[hotspur2514]

Hardly.

I like that you claim you are a freethinker.

It shows just how stupid you are.

I'd rather you just admit you said something baseless in an upset mood, than challenge others to prove you wrong. It would mean I'm not in dialogue with a child.

[hotspur2514]

Again, quote me, loser.

[alexr0p]

@hotspurt2514

If the people of Gaza and Palestine weren't in such a great pain, I'd be roflmao at your obvious attempt not to answer the question I have asked you many times now.

The harder you avoid it the more obvious it becomes... I'm looking forward to your new user name oh YouTube.

Don't forget your pills, you know you need them;)

[jimiydoorshamLachim]

"Israeli hospitals extend humanitarian treatment to Palestinians from the Gaza Strip and West Bank. These efforts continued when all other cooperation between Palestinians and Israelis came to a halt during the most recent intifada."

- Palestinian obstetrician and gynecologist Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish

[alexr0p]

Medical facilities in Gaza lack the specialized staff and equipment to treat a range of conditions, including cardiovascular illnesses and cancer. Israel, as the occupying power, is required under international law to ensure that Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank have access to the same level of medical provision and hospital treatment as they provide to Israeli nationals.

[alexr0p]

The blockade of Gaza and the refusal to allow patients to leave the Gaza Strip to obtain medical treatment which is not available there, constitutes collective punishment which is prohibited under international humanitarian law.

[alexr0p]

The above excerpts are taken from Amnesty International's report: "Israel/Occupied Palestinian Territories: Further information on Medical Concern"

[alexr0p]

Here's more

The Israeli authorities control the Gaza Strips borders and often refuse to allow critically ill patients to leave for medical treatment which is not available in Gaza. Sometimes no answer is given to the request, but in most cases permission is refused on security grounds. However, the Israeli authorities do not ever provide any evidence or information to substantiate their allegations... making it impossible for the patients to challenge the allegations.

[jimiydoorshamLachim]

so does international law require that kidnapped Israelis by Hezbollah and Hamas see the Red Cross? Yes! do they EVER do it? no

do they whine like hell about everyone of their own getting medical care? yes

have we seen one sign that Gilad is even alive? yes one video with him reading propoganda

i think thats required by intnl law

[hotspur2514]

OK, so you've got nothing.

Put on a big smile to hide those tears.

Puff out that chest to hide the

Wow, I just didn't know how much of an arse beating I was giving you.

Now, stick your fingers in your ears and scream "judeo-nazi" for as long as it takes to get to sleep.

Wow.

[jimiydoorshamLachim]

Extreme muslims are mad that these people are telling the truth about and support Zionism

Dr. Hamid holds degrees in Internal Medicine and Education (warned about 911)

Nonie Darwish - Egyptian-born American writer and public speaker. She is the author of the book Now they Call Me Infidel; Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel and the War on Terror, public speaker and founder of Arabs for Israel

Sheikh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi Cultural Institute of the Italian Islamic Community

[tassiedev01]

Try Apartied Israel.What planet are you on?

[hotspur2514]

Instead of a catchphrase, you might try addressing a point.

[charlessmyth]

I wonder if this young mother had considered not supporting her fellow Gazans who persist in killing Israelis. And had the Gaza administration thought of using their tunnels to ship in baby milk formula instead of TNT and bullets. John Ging should get a grip.

[DesertSnake3245]

actually they have been shipping food and milk in the tunnels. You're the one that should get a grip. Check the past videos on AJE.

[charlessmyth]

That's good to read, DesertSnake3245. Maybe they could ship a whole lot more at their own expense. The tax payers in the EU and US who have no choice about paying for such supplies because their governments think it's a good thing to be doing, are fed up with subsidising terrorism which must also be tolerated at home. Thanks Gaza.

[aljexsoft]

Its war - plain and simple. and when when you are shooting rockets at another country, don't expect them to send you fuel.

[jOKERbLOOD]

aljexsoft, and when you kill civilians with jets for no apparent reason, expect rockets to be flying out of Gaza.

[aljexsoft]

so, they will shoot rockets and israel will do what they can do to stop it. call it whatever you want, but that is a war.

is there any rules in a war that say you have to feed your opponent? keep shooting rockets, keep starving. meanwhile, the israeli's have a real life and palestinians are on life support via the UN. they can't even feed themselves, they need israeli electric. palestinians are losers. they should just give up.

[letherden]

apartheid, by every definition

[Inkan1969]

Forget that. "It's war" can't justify starving people to death.

[tito45]

Israel is a terrorists state. They conduct a transparent occupation which only a few people in the world see. These are Nuremberg crimes that Israel commits.

[lyden2006]

The UN aid does not reach the Palestinians for 1 very very simple reason. Israel does not want any aid going to any Palestinian.

Israel wants only to let them to die.

[alexr0p]

The UN, Amnesty International and other human rights organizations declared the siege on Gaza a form of collective punishment.

Collective punishment is a war crime under the Fourth Geneva convention.

Time to take Israel's thuggish leaders to court for war crimes! Until that's done, we should stop it ourselves, boycotting the criminal state until it abides by international law.

[johnh23]

Its called Ethnic Cleansing.

[hotspur2514]

Hamas should be made to answer for this.

[lyden2006]

Wtf? Hamas? Are you on crack?

[hotspur2514]

No, I'm not on crack.

Do you *know* anything about this issue?

[lyden2006]

Actually, I kinda do. The Israelis came in, tried to take all the land and remove it's inhabitants. Hamas is naturally following the procession of Israeli aggression.

[hotspur2514]

Actually they where given the land by the UN, and three Arab armies tried to take all the land and "remove" it's inhabitants. You couldn't back up this "procession of Israeli aggression" if you tried.

[lyden2006]

The moment you involved the UN, you lost. =)

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

Yes, please help Gaza.

[alexr0p]

Yes, lift the siege, end the collective punishment of Gaza!