Excerpt from John Dean Deposition

[Frozenhope]

Still, Dean is something of a saint compared with Nixon, Liddy, Hunt and many others who were involved in the break-in and cover-up. Nixon was one of the most authoritarian, obsessive and dishonest presidents in American history; Liddy was the kind of shameless ideologue who should never hold power under any circumstances, and Hunt was a bottom-feeding conniver who blackmailed his superiors to get more money illegally funneled to him while in jail.

[loyaldude10]

@Frozenhope --Dean was no saint. He was the central figure in coverup. He may be a decent guy today, but he was the first to rat on his client, Nixon, after the McCord letter to Judge Sirica.

[trulysarcastic]

I'm always surprised that Liddy didn't take responsibility fro Watergate.Not that he was responsible but he's so loyal I'm surprised that he didn't

[cookieman38111]

What a weasel!

[bondurango]

It's clear who ordered the break-in. Dean saying no one in the WH had involvement is bullshit since you're involved if you're in the information loop. But Erlichman being precluded from Strachan's knowledge of the break-in doesn't make it exclusive to Dean. Strachan is not in Dean or Erlichman's chain of command. He's Haldeman's boy (one man away from Nixon) & liason to CREEP (Mitchell & Magruder) so what Dean knows about the break-in doesn't preclude Haldeman or Nixon from that knowledge.

[MarmaladeINFP]

I find it funny that one of the top rated comments perfectly demonstrates the right-wing authoritarian mentality that Dean criticizes.

Steelerj08: "Dean was the president's lawyer and owed him the duty of loyalty, period."

That is exactly what an authoritarian would say which simply proves Dean's argument. LOL Dean chose not to remain loyal to the president's lies and instead spoke out for truth. That was the most honorable and moral action he could've taken.

[Frozenhope]

@MarmaladeINFP @MarmaladeINFP I suppose Dean's "betrayal" was the best thing that could have happened for American politics, but it's hard to believe his motives were idealistic. Dean had been orchestrating Nixon's cover-up for months, and only jumped ship when he belived Nixon was going to make him a scapegoat for Watergate. (Which was very likely true, as the president used his name on national television, citing a report by Dean that his administration was clean. This report never existed.)

[MarmaladeINFP]

@Frozenhope Neither you nor I can no the heart of another person. Anyway, I didn't say his motives were idealistic. A person can act morally in a particular situation whether or not they're motivated by idealism. Also, morality and idealism only have a loose connection. Some of the worst tyrants in history were 'idealistic'.

You seem to be claiming a lot of inside knowledge about what Dean was doing and why he was doing it. Were you a part of the Nixon administration?

[Outlaw1257]

SillyCon;

You really need to tell the prison warden that you need an adjustment in your Thorazine dosage before you loose your computer privileges.

[Outlaw1257]

Sillycondoc Wrote:

"ALL roads lead to JOHN DEAN. Now of course he is a liberal communist hero, blah, blah, blah, ramble, ramble, grouse, grouse...."

Hey, Sillycon!!

Can't you come up with a more creative pejorative than "Communist"m or "Commie"??

That is sooooo four decades ago!!

[Outlaw1257]

Keep up your idiotic rambles, Silicondoc!!

With friends like you, the Republicans don't need enemies!!

[Outlaw1257]

Yes, I did ask, but you still haven't answered.... Do you need a lollipop?? A couple of Aspirins?? Some Valium?? Or, perhaps a Lobotomy??

You probably ought to try smoking a good bowl...... George Carlin contributed more to humanity that your cantankerous rambles have!!

[Outlaw1257]

Do you need a lollipop, or a couple of aspirins, or something??

[Outlaw1257]

Silicondoc;

I made my comment in jest; I am curious about why it provoked such a response from you.

[Outlaw1257]

If we Americans, as a society in the late 60's or early 70's, had possessed any kind of sense at all, we would have elected George Carlin President!!

[greeniem]

You're mentally retarded, aren't you?

[Outlaw1257]

@greeniem:

Looking at your other postings, coming from you, that's something of a compliment. Vitriolic rants saturated in ignorance, devoid of any substance. I'm sure your family is most proud of you.

[greeniem]

Good for you, fag, you even type pretenciously lol

[Outlaw1257]

So, greeniem; Once again, facts fail you, substance fails you, so now, you are reduced to petty insults and name calling. Rationale discourse is obviously beyond your limited capacities. Had your sister known you were going to turn out like this, I rather doubt that she would never have given birth to you.

[Outlaw1257]

BTW, "greenniem", about your spelling.....

"pretenciously"?? I take it you bought the "Dan Quayle Spell Check" program??

Say it with me now, greeniem!!

P-O-T-A-.............

[Steelerjj08]

Dean was the president's lawyer and owed him the duty of loyalty, period.

[DonParsley]

Great post. John Dean was lying all along, from the first account he gave to the President, he covered up his own involvement, and blamed it all on Liddy, Jeb Magruder, Strahan, and Mitchell. He pretended that he was outraged at the thought of these types of operations, and he was planning them, to serve his own ends, not to benefit Nixon. And the press turned him into a hero figure, because of their own Nixon hatred.

[cookieman38111]

True. Dean was the ringleader and the press and the watergate committee made him out to be some sort of saint. Everyone who knew him regarded him as sleazy. Read "Silent Coup" and it will clear up a lot of things for you. It is very well documented.

[rcruzmiller24]

verdaderamente jonh dean es lo que sellama un cobarde traidor,el presidente nixon le da la oportunidad y el le paga con mentiras para tener libertad por halgo que el hiso. rompio la ley.y hora quiere que lecrean con sus comentarios en tv.

[scalliwagrx8]

the people mad at Dean for bringing down Nixon were the same crowd that wanted Clinton impeached for lying under oath. Fred Thompson was even a lawyer for Nixon.

[alteredlame666]

He withheld that information because it was part of the greater conspiracy at the time, everyone did. Liddy was just mad that John Dean wasn't a Nixon loyalist like him, and got off for talking.

I can't say one way or another if Dean had any dealings in an underground sex ring, and neither can you. It's all virtually sourceless, conspiratorial material that can't be confirmed. Worse yet, it's from a source that has a reason to be bitter.

[cookieman38111]

It is very documented. Read "silent coup". His wife "Mo" was a roommate with a known madam of a prostitution ring. She was also a bridesmaid in Mo's wedding to Dean. She was also a lover of the highest ranking organized crime member in DC at the time.

[nlpjohn]

John Dean is a certified liar. As a lawyer he had one client (Nixon) and he betrayed his one and only client. Liddy called him a liar, Dean sued and Dean got his ass kicked in court. Liddy trounced him and still calls him a liar... Dean has spent the rest of his life trying to reinvent himself. Now Dean has joined the Anti-Bush bandwagon as a tactic to gain positive attention to himself...

[hemsley24]

The biggest liar of the bunch wasn't Dean; it was John Mitchell, the chief planner of the watergate break-in. It was Mitchell who was convicted of perjury, not Dean.

[bondurango]

@nlpjohn

After only 8 hrs. of deliberation, the judge got a message from the jury that they couldn't reach a verdict so he declared a mistrial in Dean's libel suit against Liddy. Dean then sued Liddy's publisher and received a financial settlement. You call that an ass kicking? When it comes to certified liars, none of these guys are beyond reproach, especially, Liddy.

[loyaldude10]

@nlpjohn ---well---they all lied and participated in coverup. Dean just ratted on everyone first, afrad if being scapegoat and deathly afraod of jail. Most of them have been remorseful, except Liddy. All of them wrote books 9except Mitchell) and went on to successful careers. Dean today is critical of Bush Jr and the right wing, radical Repub Party of today.