I remember standing outside a BBQ in Daegu, South Korea with the man I loved before everything fell apart listening to this song. I miss him like the desert misses the rain, but I know it is over. Here's to what was and also to what will be ... I love hope!!
Absolutely does not sound like Ben Harper. I might be wrong, but it's too much different of his voice. But the music is absolutely AWESOME, i wanna know who's it.
100% not BEN!!! Sounds like dude that does tune called "Solitude", I believe Edwin McCain might be the name, but not sure if it's him? Sure sounds like him about a thousand times more than it sounds like Ben.
good cover...but being a Ben Harper fan..this was a let down. Clearly not Ben's voice. A surprise coming from someone who's youtube moniker is "benharperlyrics". :-(
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even though its not ben i'm happy they put it as him because this song made my day. this guy has an amazing voice and does deserve credit though. hoorah jeffrey gaines!
I just watched this guy standing in his kitchen ,Walter K - In Your Eyes (Peter Gabriel Cover) KILL THIS SONG...check it out, blows this version awaY.
this is Jeffery Gaines... why do people who have NO idea about music always get these things wrong... reminds me of all the idiots who started passing the awesome cover of "Gin and Juice" off as "by Phish"... morons. not only does this sound NOTHING like Harper, but it's pretty easy to do a little searching and find that w/o a doubt this is Jeffery Gaines. Also kind of insulting to JG seeing as he's a PHENOMENAL artist with an amazing voice... Pull your heads out kids, THIS IS NOT BEN HARPER.
@KimagamiMori Maybe NOW, BUT, when the really popular one was running around new (some years ago) , it WAS NOT Phish (haven't seen a set-list whre Phish coverd it either so I'm not too sure about that, but I'll take your word for it) it was a band called Gourd. It was pretty musch universaly atributed to Phish, but it was DEF. not them... I'd like to hear the Phish version, but if it's the one I'm talking about, it was mis-labeled and was actually performed by Gourd.
@KimagamiMori Maybe NOW(haven't seen a set-list whre Phish coverd it either so I'm not too sure about that, but I'll take your word for it), BUT, when the really popular one was running around new (some years ago) , it WAS NOT Phish it was a band called Gourd. It was pretty much universaly atributed to Phish, but it was DEF. not them... I'd like to hear the Phish version, but if it's the one I'm talking about, it was mis-labeled and was actually performed by Gourd. Cheers Dave
please can somebody tell me now, is it ben harper or tupac this live version? because i downloaded this song many years ago & the singer's name was ben harper.. but now i'm confused.. (new searches results either harper nor tupac) thanks for heeeelp!!!
ben harpers version is a bit different according to my memory. i think its a good bit slower. i havent heard in a long time but have it somewhere but no need this is a good version IMHO i like acoustic songs tho
I am so sure you guys have more important things to argue about...Peter Gabriel also sang this song andaomeone else is singing it so we can sing along. That's all.....
I can't believe that so many people commenting on this are so misinformed. This is a Peter Gabriel song and this is Jeffrey Gaines singing it. Not Ben Harper. Geez people do your research.
@KawaiiBlackPixie um sweetie... my comment was obviously about who sings the version in this video; no one's talking about who was the first person to sing this song!
I can't believe there are so many people that don't know this is Jeffrey Gaines, much less think it's Ben Harper or whoever else. Drag your cursor to the right and watch Gaines do it.
This is Jeffrey Gaines and there is video evidence to prove it. There is also an acoustic version by the composer and original singer, Peter Gabriel, which is very similar in arrangement and interpretation. They are both fabulous versions of a timeless song.
I was Jeff's tour manager / sound tech for this tour and I'm pretty sure we recorded this when opening up for Melissa Etheridge in '92 (possibly in Canada).
See more from my post a year ago but for those that still don't believe, google Jeff's name and click the wikipedia link.
e poi vedi che i destini si dividono.. vedi che si ricomincia ad amare e che i mesi passano.. vedi che ce la fai.. poi ecco la canzone.. la radio.. e io cuore torna li dopo anni torna li... una cosa accessa si spegne da sola ??? ditemelo voi..
funny, I downloaded that track about 10 years ago, I was listening to it often, not knowing this was jeffrey Gaines, now I know, thank you, I love that song !
Why does everyone think this is Ben Harper? I'm a huge fan of Ben Harper, and it doesn't even sound like him. However, I'm now a fan of Jeffrey Gaines. :)
@jessicashatwell the original song is by peter gabriel, can be heard in the movie "say anything" with john cusack. has to be one of the best movies of the 80s, in my opinion. gotta love the boombox-scene.
Years ago when I first heard of Ben Harper and downloaded what I could off of limewire, I got a copy of this by mistake. It's one of those tunes I always find myself singing.
JEFFREY GAINES.... fix it for the love of god...
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Nameswillbetaken 2 weeks ago
Do this search right here on YouTube
jeffrey gaines in your eyes acoustic
Then tell me if the video sounds familiar
triplegemini69 2 weeks ago
Just because they're not your quintessential african males, doesn't mean they're the same person!!
devinconway2013 1 month ago
I remember standing outside a BBQ in Daegu, South Korea with the man I loved before everything fell apart listening to this song. I miss him like the desert misses the rain, but I know it is over. Here's to what was and also to what will be ... I love hope!!
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lmn1967lisa 2 months ago
whichever way i go i come back to the place .. :/ </3
MrNarsisus 2 months ago
This is Jeffrey Gaines, not Ben Harper.
triplegemini69 3 months ago 12
@triplegemini69 Your so right. why is this post still up?
muzackman1 2 weeks ago
Absolutely does not sound like Ben Harper. I might be wrong, but it's too much different of his voice. But the music is absolutely AWESOME, i wanna know who's it.
foureaux15 3 months ago
@foureaux15 I think it's Johnny Lang personally....haven't been able to prove it though.
hjrobe1 1 month ago
100% not BEN!!! Sounds like dude that does tune called "Solitude", I believe Edwin McCain might be the name, but not sure if it's him? Sure sounds like him about a thousand times more than it sounds like Ben.
keithmoon29 3 months ago
Well, it sure ain't Peter Gabriel!
TheVizenos 3 months ago
WHAT THE FUCK GUYS. Get your videos straight!
thedepartingdistrict 3 months ago
Wow...Ben Harper sounds a lot like Jeffrey Gaines...but I think the OP knows that by now...
NoPawn 3 months ago
dont care who does this its an amazing cover
krunkytrunks410 3 months ago
nothing like original!!!!!!: Peter Gabriel!!
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TheMusicluv1 3 months ago
just luv that !
;)
rodrigats 4 months ago
Bad.
ottodeitz 4 months ago
ahahahaaa Another Ben Harper mix up. For a guy who has a pretty distinct voice, he gets mixed up with a lot of other artists on youtube..
StrawBeriLuv95 4 months ago
It's not ben harper you fucking idiot
pathosrey 4 months ago
"wichever" is spelled like WHICHEVER. And this is Jeffrey Gaines
mkj868 4 months ago
it's Jeffrey Gaines
reubenwatkins 4 months ago
Don't know if anyone has seen that whichever is spelled wrong
shelbyrae1 5 months ago
I've even heard someone say this was Edwin McCain....lol.
PhantomOfTheMall 5 months ago
change the fucking tittle, people who dont know ben harper stays with bad image of him. this sucks,
ana142L 5 months ago
@ana142L like me!! D;
soniarocks21 4 months ago
dude ben harper could crush this guy.
iputmyhanduponmyhip 5 months ago
we get it its not ben harper shut up and just listen
channyleighx 5 months ago
good cover...but being a Ben Harper fan..this was a let down. Clearly not Ben's voice. A surprise coming from someone who's youtube moniker is "benharperlyrics". :-(
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RedDustRoad 5 months ago
WE GET IT!! Its not Ben Harper.....damn. I mean can we just listen this GREAT song....common....
mcrzach11 5 months ago
Do some research first. This is Jeffrey Gaines.
76lando 6 months ago
this music is annoying
doktoren23 6 months ago
@doktoren23 then dont listen sir
sethypoo727 6 months ago
even though its not ben i'm happy they put it as him because this song made my day. this guy has an amazing voice and does deserve credit though. hoorah jeffrey gaines!
checkyourself06 6 months ago 11
Too bad that aint ben harper!
imboonga 6 months ago 2
has he gotten the flu?
doktoren23 6 months ago
nothing close!!! to ben harper
samia1974 6 months ago
this is not Harper... Its Jeffrey Gaines.
berlinmarkus 6 months ago
This is NOT Ben Harper, it is Johnny Lang
scottcarey813 6 months ago
i have to sing this for my cousin's wedding. this exact version. i'm so nervous!! but this is an awesome song (:
x0xSaviix0x 6 months ago
mmmm not ben harper but still kinda cool
XXzurizadayXX 6 months ago
Always thought this was Pete Murray . . No?
Nameswillbetaken 6 months ago
@Nameswillbetaken no bahaha
raiseyourweapons 6 months ago
Uhmmmmm
NOT Ben Harper ! It's Jeffrey Gaines ~
MrSlobend 6 months ago
I just watched this guy standing in his kitchen ,Walter K - In Your Eyes (Peter Gabriel Cover) KILL THIS SONG...check it out, blows this version awaY.
TrainingStream 6 months ago
I have no idea who this is but I know it's not Ben Harper because Ben Harper could never do this song this good. Rock On, whoever you are! lol
patriots2185 7 months ago
@patriots2185 This comment implies you thing Ben Harper is talentless?
Anyone who can cover Voodoo Child on a slide Guitar with this much soul and joy is "good" enough to def cover a Peter Gabrial song -__-
KimagamiMori 7 months ago
this is Jeffery Gaines... why do people who have NO idea about music always get these things wrong... reminds me of all the idiots who started passing the awesome cover of "Gin and Juice" off as "by Phish"... morons. not only does this sound NOTHING like Harper, but it's pretty easy to do a little searching and find that w/o a doubt this is Jeffery Gaines. Also kind of insulting to JG seeing as he's a PHENOMENAL artist with an amazing voice... Pull your heads out kids, THIS IS NOT BEN HARPER.
4rescue 7 months ago
@4rescue Um...Phish DOES a cover of Jin and Juice... o_O
KimagamiMori 7 months ago
@KimagamiMori Maybe NOW, BUT, when the really popular one was running around new (some years ago) , it WAS NOT Phish (haven't seen a set-list whre Phish coverd it either so I'm not too sure about that, but I'll take your word for it) it was a band called Gourd. It was pretty musch universaly atributed to Phish, but it was DEF. not them... I'd like to hear the Phish version, but if it's the one I'm talking about, it was mis-labeled and was actually performed by Gourd.
4rescue 7 months ago
@KimagamiMori Maybe NOW(haven't seen a set-list whre Phish coverd it either so I'm not too sure about that, but I'll take your word for it), BUT, when the really popular one was running around new (some years ago) , it WAS NOT Phish it was a band called Gourd. It was pretty much universaly atributed to Phish, but it was DEF. not them... I'd like to hear the Phish version, but if it's the one I'm talking about, it was mis-labeled and was actually performed by Gourd. Cheers Dave
4rescue 7 months ago
OOOKE, i find it out.. Jeffrey Gaines.. (who said Tupac??) ..;))
aYYaCE 7 months ago
please can somebody tell me now, is it ben harper or tupac this live version? because i downloaded this song many years ago & the singer's name was ben harper.. but now i'm confused.. (new searches results either harper nor tupac) thanks for heeeelp!!!
aYYaCE 7 months ago
ben harpers version is a bit different according to my memory. i think its a good bit slower. i havent heard in a long time but have it somewhere but no need this is a good version IMHO i like acoustic songs tho
jason8047 7 months ago
Well done to the geniuses that figured out it wasn't Ben Harper....
You deserve a medal
landerkane 7 months ago
i dont care if it's tupac singing at this point 10 seconds into the song i decided to listen further so lets just enjoy the music guys
theREALpromised1 7 months ago
I am so sure you guys have more important things to argue about...Peter Gabriel also sang this song andaomeone else is singing it so we can sing along. That's all.....
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Sheilap63 7 months ago in playlist ben harper
@Sheilap63 It IS Peter Gabrials song I believe :p
KimagamiMori 7 months ago
NOT ben harper!!!!
safaridave2001 7 months ago
I can't believe that so many people commenting on this are so misinformed. This is a Peter Gabriel song and this is Jeffrey Gaines singing it. Not Ben Harper. Geez people do your research.
BellaBliss1981 8 months ago
it's Gains, take this off please!!!
jczother 8 months ago in playlist cody3
Definitely Gaines!
BurningTurd 8 months ago
Umm thats not ben singing guys.....
coolhot22 8 months ago
@KawaiiBlackPixie um sweetie... my comment was obviously about who sings the version in this video; no one's talking about who was the first person to sing this song!
Anomis123 8 months ago
It doesn't matter who is singing it the point is that the song was created by Peter Gabriel
HappyGamerMan 8 months ago
NOT Ben Harper... Sheesh..
LauraStar127 8 months ago
I can't believe there are so many people that don't know this is Jeffrey Gaines, much less think it's Ben Harper or whoever else. Drag your cursor to the right and watch Gaines do it.
babyshaker187 8 months ago
actually its edwin mccain..
rooty83 8 months ago
everyone knows this is BB King...oh benharperlyrics....
iceman10129 9 months ago
its actually an original by peter gabriel you numbskulls
hahaImallwaysright 9 months ago
Yeah this doesn't even sound like Ben Harper, he has a softer voice. Good try guys.
MrCbrownyork 9 months ago
it's jonny lang
drewm14 9 months ago
This is Jeffery Gaines
olee67 9 months ago
It's Jeffrey Gaines!
mihir0x 9 months ago
This is Peter Gabriel's acoustic version. Not Ben Harper or Jeffery Gaines...whoever the hell he is. You can tell it's Peter when he says thanks
Danklin24 9 months ago
@Danklin24 this doesn't sound even remotely like peter gabriel man. keep swinging
UsEliteSki 9 months ago
Thought this was Harper for years...haha fooled!
cthatcher941 9 months ago
@cthatcher941 me too lol
opiateHELP 9 months ago
Ben Harper ...really???
jchallan 9 months ago
THIS IS Jeffrey Gains fo sho :)
Chickienennen 9 months ago
I know it's JG but it's actually easier to find under BH, I like both anyway
OmarFernandoChavez 9 months ago
51 people know this isn't Ben Harper...
jenafizzle13 10 months ago
@jenafizzle13 51 people are misinformed then. This is ben harpers first masterpiece.
89jwow 9 months ago
This is the best song of the world !
TheFaxMrb 10 months ago
This is Jeffery Gaines!!!!
dimort73 10 months ago 24
Love, I don't like to see so much pain
Esmeralda1234able 10 months ago
lisaaaaa, tia , lisa, soy mara, juhuuuuuu, a ver si te das cuenta
Mara108ful 10 months ago
@Mara108ful Lisa, escucha!
OmarFernandoChavez 9 months ago
LISAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Mara108ful 10 months ago
wtf have you ever heard of ben harper? because this sounds NOTHING like him..... ahahahahaaa confused a little? eh.
llamacorn969 10 months ago
this is NOT ben harper
schlafen1 10 months ago 46
you are cracy
Mara108ful 10 months ago
@schlafen1 yes it is. he covered Jeffrey Gaines' original at a concert. he does it at a lot of his concerts actually.
meganthemaniac66 7 months ago
niiice!!!
Katti211 10 months ago
this is a peter gabriel's song!! 100% sure
sebzamfi 10 months ago
@sebzamfi his song, but this is jeffrey gaines doing this version....100% sure.
EASports1296 10 months ago
@sebzamfi his song, but this is jeffrey gaines doing this version....100% sure.
EASports1296 10 months ago
@EASports1296 totally agree!!
sebzamfi 10 months ago
this is definitely not ben harper its jeffrey gaines.... soooo yeah
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I always thought this was an elvis costello song ???
seftonDelmer24 10 months ago
I always thought this was an evis costello song ???
seftonDelmer24 10 months ago
*sigh* Simply love this, one of my very favorite songs of all time
GrnEydAries 10 months ago
this is Jeffrey Gaines not Ben. Great version.
Esoom19 10 months ago
wow! this isnt Ben harper ... what effing retards.. ever heared of peter gabriel? obviously not..... morons.. this makes me so angry.
nazzdogg 11 months ago
@nazzdogg uhh, lol you might be a retard. This isn't petter either.
MONEERAYKAZ 10 months ago
Funny, i heard this on the radio and would have sworn it was ed Mccain!
Yeah this is definately Jeff Gaines, check out the video, I don't like it but his singing rocks!
fourthtunz 11 months ago
The quality sucks but by far the best cover of this song I have heard.
FDMedic78 11 months ago
This is Jeffrey Gaines. It's from the actual video he has. You can tell it's the same thing.
Even down to where he says "thanks". (at 4:20 on this video, at 4:22 on his ACTUAL video) It's easy to hear.
TranceViper 11 months ago
Agree. Like the song but No way is this ben harper
andrumonu 11 months ago
This is Jeffrey Gaines and there is video evidence to prove it. There is also an acoustic version by the composer and original singer, Peter Gabriel, which is very similar in arrangement and interpretation. They are both fabulous versions of a timeless song.
TheChaNar 11 months ago
Definitey not Ben Harper; it's a cover by Jeffrey Gaines, the original song is by Peter Gabriel... it's very nice though
Oceanelion 11 months ago 2
@Oceanelion
Yup. Yer right
beecon1 11 months ago
think its edwin
memyself337 11 months ago
@memyself337
Edwin McCain and Jefferey Gaines sound very similar but this is Gaines.
beecon1 11 months ago
Deff not Ben Harper, but still good
dj30harw 11 months ago
it is very good music and it is all good go listen to mishka peace
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I was Jeff's tour manager / sound tech for this tour and I'm pretty sure we recorded this when opening up for Melissa Etheridge in '92 (possibly in Canada).
See more from my post a year ago but for those that still don't believe, google Jeff's name and click the wikipedia link.
ravino1 1 year ago
It's a song of Peter Gabriel sing by Jeffrey Gaines
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Carbug 1 year ago
just kidding i heart this song hehehe
714jaywilk 1 year ago
suck dick....all of you
714jaywilk 1 year ago
It sounds like Edwin McCain
bendrinkin19 1 year ago
i love this song.......
Fourgirlz4 1 year ago
Jeffrey Gains, nice try!
0713mas 1 year ago
e poi vedi che i destini si dividono.. vedi che si ricomincia ad amare e che i mesi passano.. vedi che ce la fai.. poi ecco la canzone.. la radio.. e io cuore torna li dopo anni torna li... una cosa accessa si spegne da sola ??? ditemelo voi..
sinovembre 1 year ago
In your eyes. The resolution of all the fruitless searches.
fabydemelo 1 year ago
is not ben harper; deferent style i think is Jeffery Gaines
hkayne1 1 year ago
You guys don't know anything. This is clearly Burl Ives. duh.
copyryan 1 year ago
I love it when people illegally download music with the artist names wrong and post it on youtube...
speedfreak808 1 year ago
Def not johhny lang. or ben harper. but still good
niugirl21 1 year ago
Def not johhny lang. or ben harper
niugirl21 1 year ago
um, yeah. Already been said, but this is Jeffery Gaines. NOT Ben Harper.
MrGreenjeep97 1 year ago 4
@MrGreenjeep97 Agreed..
yourit311 1 year ago
@MrGreenjeep97 looks like Ben Harper
sinatra242 7 months ago
peter gabriel
birdmanofalcatraz 1 year ago
- its jeffrey gaines retard
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yo wanna watch a rlly funny vid ? type in : white vs black (in arabic class)
ull love it :) btw nice vid
alali401 1 year ago
Amooo!!!!!!!!
polly1808 1 year ago
its Johnny Lang you bozos
bunomatic 1 year ago
@bunomatic It is Jeffrey Gaines moron
disturbedjosh 1 year ago
there's no room for discussion here: watch the video "Jeffrey Gaines - In Your Eyes" uploaded by "mmuzik".
if you still believe it's someone else you have a problem...
Anomis123 1 year ago 15
@Anomis123 . Agreed.
babyshaker187 8 months ago
Seriously, who are the 42 idiots who dislike this? And It's Ben Harper, people....
scottdaniel1982 1 year ago
@scottdaniel1982 Not Ben Harper. Simple as that.
RoboDouche 1 year ago 2
this is jeffrey gaines and he is amazing
lonswayc 1 year ago
Its not Jeffery Gaines, it is Johnny Lang; use your ears!!
DANNYBULIAN 1 year ago
@DANNYBULIAN hahahahaha
torpano 1 year ago
THE BEST SONG EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR
isabelotto1 1 year ago
whoever you are ...tnx for never had the chance to look into ur eyes..
amadarose8 1 year ago
funny, I downloaded that track about 10 years ago, I was listening to it often, not knowing this was jeffrey Gaines, now I know, thank you, I love that song !
P.S. : original version by Peter Gabriel on So.
etonnai 1 year ago
@etonnai same situation over here! lol
tSavvyStudios 1 year ago
This isn't Ben Harper....
Flash33181 1 year ago
Not even close to Ben's voice, but I like it...
jczother 1 year ago
wow this brings back so many good memories
Nouuuuranlovesadam 1 year ago
It's not Ben Harper - it's Jeffrey Gaines!
g0ttsche 1 year ago 32
@g0ttsche It's Peter Gabriel..
TheZenBuddhist 8 months ago
oh my lord this is beautiful.
msnoemir 1 year ago
That is the truth. This is awesome music :)
Lizard58 1 year ago
Why does everyone think this is Ben Harper? I'm a huge fan of Ben Harper, and it doesn't even sound like him. However, I'm now a fan of Jeffrey Gaines. :)
vbace21 1 year ago 2
This isn't Ben Harper
gumpgumplol 1 year ago
the original it´s from peter gabriel
cotasonante 1 year ago
this is my all time favorite song
brittnehx3 1 year ago
This is Jeffery Gains.. you might want to change the title..:) peace
christrealized 1 year ago 2
this is not Ben Harper.. it's Jeffrey Gaines.. Change the title..:)
christrealized 1 year ago 2
who is actually singing this song?
jessicashatwell 1 year ago
@jessicashatwell the original song is by peter gabriel, can be heard in the movie "say anything" with john cusack. has to be one of the best movies of the 80s, in my opinion. gotta love the boombox-scene.
btw.: great cover version. ben harper is awesome.
jruwing87 1 year ago
Definitely Jeffery Gaines
lewismstrtd 1 year ago
Jeffery Gaines sings this... Doesn't even sound like Ben. Look it up fools!
psycosemattic 1 year ago 3
this is not Ben ITs Edwin McCain
kingjackson26 1 year ago
C'est vraiment trop bien !
La meilleure chanson que j'ai jamais entendu !
Martinfolk1000 1 year ago
who cares who wrote this song? its a great song, but i prefer the "version" from peter gabriel;)
BrascoN1993 1 year ago
Years ago when I first heard of Ben Harper and downloaded what I could off of limewire, I got a copy of this by mistake. It's one of those tunes I always find myself singing.
yeahtoast22 1 year ago
This song is by Jeffrey Gaines , isn't by Ben Harper !
Whatever , it's GREAT music . from;a brazilian guy.
Wilkiko93 1 year ago
@Wilkiko93 it's by peter gabriel dude
AcousticDiscoMetal1 1 year ago
@AcousticDiscoMetal1 I think he might have meant this specific recording.
dragonpink1975 1 year ago
@AcousticDiscoMetal1 the person whom is singing is not Peter it is Ben...I was there...
yourit311 1 year ago