This video is sad and angers me. Katherine and Mary never deserved the treatment they got from Henry and Anne. Katherine was the true queen of england, not anne. And Katherine and Henry's marriage was valid. It was Henry and Anne's marriage that was not valid! None of Henry's other marriages were valid either except to Katherine of Aragon. Mary was the only true heir to the throne of england! Henry was a horrible tyrant of a "king" and Anne was a troublemaker.
@28804ecorrell In my opinion a true marriage which is in love but marrige of Katherine of Aragon and Henry wasn't in love. It was just a marriage of convenience. Of course, at the beginning of their matrimony Katherine liked Henry becouse she was his first wife, his woman. But they were very different and Henry began to cool down to her. As for Anne Boleyn I believe Henry really loved her and he wasn't afraid to split the church in order to marry her.
@uniquelyanonymoslyme in Spain only the inmediate heir or heiress to the crown can use the title of Prince or Princess ( of Asturias) ..Mary could be use the title of infanta of Spain
@uniquelyanonymoslyme I think that if she did it her Spanish cousins would had become her enemies. Becouse actually she hadn't a big prerogative to sit on the Spanish throne her mother was the yongest of Isabella I of Castile's children that's why Mary was lastest in the queue in Spanish crown. I think it would be a scandal on any way. So Mary had a considered opinion in her right on English crown and she defended it well.
Poor Mary. Henry seperated his wife from her beloved daughter for years and he had Anne executed leaving Elizabeth lonely and vulnerable. That royal bastard, he has no consideration for mother's and daughters b/c all he wants is a son, I hope he's burning in Hell.
Mary was kind to Elizabeth in Elizabeth's childhood years, but after Edward died she saw Elizabeth as a threat and imprisoned her and was prepared to kill her, because she knew Elizabeth was not the Catholic faith and she wanted England to be Catholic, but in the end she spared Elizabeth's life, and didn't dethrone her. She was both mean and kind to Elizabeth, mostly because of what Elizabeth's mother did to her mother.
Most movies can be pretty inaccurate when it comes to history yet everyone is always quoting them or believes one film's interpretation of a character is the true image of who they really were when they really just twisted it to their liking. Don't rely on pop culture, they're just trying to entertain you. Rely on history books.
I love Princess Mary in the Tudors and have always felt somewhat sympathetic towards Mary Tudor. Had Henry allowed her to remain a princess even after he so callously set her mother aside and arranged a marriage for her then perhaps her later unhappiness would/could have been avoided and there would have been less suffering during her reign.
i dont agree. she believed in god, but the choices, decisions, and marriages his father made just grew an evil inside her, and she used it for anyone against her. A normal person would carry a lot of hate if her father would forbid them to communicate to their loving mother, who later died from maltreatment.
her father spent his time marrying and sleeping with women. she was constantly engaged to men, and then it would always be broken. some of the men she was bethrotled to were unattractive and old, and you could tell henry didnt even care when he was choosing them.
she was married to Philip who hardly loved her, and they were never able to deliver a child in her reign. all this hate came together and she took it out on anyone who didnt believe in her, since her whole life growing up consisted of people who didnt believe or love her and her mother, which i believe it isnt fair. so please take this all into thought before you begin to talk of her like this, since its not her fault she was treated and raised like this. she couldnt stop it or walk away from it
hmmm. I see where you're coming from. Still, that's no excuse for her actions against people who hurt her. I've had a bad adolescence myself, but I don't take it out on people who haven't hurt me.
thanks for understanding me. i do agree as well, since its not fair for anyone to loose their life just because someone said so. and in the brutal way they died is still heartbreaking too
ok well if u r going to attack her for the death of anglicans please note that none of these british monarchs are any better. they all have blood on there hands, and they all have there excuses for that blood too. take elizabeth and her father henry into account as well. elizabeth has blood on her hands as well
@quenek murder is murder in my opinion so if u wanna call one monarch out u better call every single one if them out. Henry executed ppl for treason you say? really so Anne's failure to give him a son was treason. and for Elizabeth executing Mary Queen of Scots was purely for treachery and had nothing to do with religion like the fact that Mary was a catholic? i'm so tired of this the anti-catholic agenda
@quenek Oh, hell yeah, big difference. Elizabeth condemned many people to die for being Catholic UNDER THE GUISE of 'treason'! (What was the "treason"? Being Catholic!) Some of you have said you're going by the way Elizabeth is portrayed in the Cate Blanchett film. That film is such a biased load of horse--it anyone can see that. Needless to say, that is not the true Elizabeth. it is the idealized misrepresentation of her which England has given the world for hundreths of years.
exactly. She only had a catholic reference from which she viewed life. Just as anyone who is zealous in their beliefs would resent being forced to give them up, so was Mary. She remained true to her convictions, even when doing so meant she was courting death. At the time in which she lived, Protestantism was not that strong in England, which is why it was relatively easy to throw that train in reverse in 1553. But also, enough people had tasted the new religion and didn't want to go back.
hence the Wyatt Revolt and the work behind the scenes of Protestants over on the continent to putting their store in the Princess Elizabeth--and why her life hung in the balance until 1558.
I was still floored when I saw Sarah Bolger as Mary for the first time. Damn, so that's "Bloody Mary"? If I was around at that time I would've gladly given up being a protestant for her. It should be "Mary full of grace".
really? I'm sorry, but nothing will make me give up my faith. I like Catholocism, but it's not for me. And I think any catholic would consider referring to Mary Tudor as "Mary full of grace" to be blasphemous. Mary Tudor may be misunderstood, but to compare her to the Virgin Mary is uncalled for.
ok mary rocks but I think that she should have been a bit more nice to her sister later on in life. I mean she is still your blood but also it's all her fathers fault for the way she turned out a girl needs a father figure in her life. Her father was jacked up on women and having a iffing baby boy when really supposedly the best ruler out of the family ended up begin one of the girls Elizabeth GIRL POWER
But Mary was nice to Elizabeth for most of their lives. They were like normal siblings, they loved each other and hated each other. Explain to me how Mary "hated" Elizabeth, but still left her the throne of England. Explain how it was pure hatred that cause Mary to spare Elizabeth's life. Mary was not the evil person many people think she was to Elizabeth.
well she ended up giving the throne to Elizabeth cause she didn't have any kids and in the end she couldn't kill Elizabeth because she was her sister after all. I'm going by what I say in the movie 'Elizabeth' if you watch the movie Mary is a total bitch that's why I like this version of Mary
I've seen both of the Elizabeth movies and I find them quite historically innacurate. They made Mary out to be some ugly shrew, but she was rather pretty and was nice, but had flaws. This Mary is much more accurate than the Mary in Elizabeth. And just to add, Mary could easily have given the throne to her Socttish cousins, or to Jane's younger sisters since Elizabeth was recognized as fit to be queen in the country's laws' eyes.
Yea but Mary was the first in line after Edward =) So she got dibs on the throne its just to bad she didn't give the people freedom of religion. To believe what they wanted to believe
I was arguing that she could easily have executed Elizabeth or disinherited her. Had Elizabeth been disinherited, she would not have had enough outside support to take the throne back. And no, Mary didn't give freedom of religion, but that was how she was raised. That there was nothing wrong with forcefully supporting the church of England. Besides, there were also many plots to overthrow her, it's not like they were all "martyrydoms".
@kerinapetshop No, it's a fact that Mary was cold to Anne Boleyn and by extension Elizabeth in some ways during Anne Boleyn's reign. However, as Elizabeth grew up, she and Mary grew close together. Mary was very fond of Elizabeth once she wasn't a princess. After that, their hatred did not grow strongly for a while until the issue of succession came into play many years later. It's not merely a fact that Mary was cold to her though.
@kerinapetshop No it's not a fact. I don't where you got that bull. Mary became cold to Elizabeth when they grew up. Not while Elizabeth was a teenager.
@kerinapetshop Also, I've been studying the Tudor Dynasty for the past four or five years now, trust me, I don't believe most of what's on The Tudors, I research before I presume it's true. However, a lot of the occurrences are rumors of what happened and hold some historical accuracy, if not much.
Well, you cannot judge someone until you walk a mile in their shoes. I know you have Aspergers, but try to understand; We do not "hero worship" Mary, but we know she and Catherine were the ones in the right here. It was Henry and Annes treatment of her and her mother that traumatized Mary into clinging to her Catholic faith and hating the Protestant faith enough to bring back the herasy laws. Not to mention Edward trying to bully her into converting and Elizabeth taking his side.
ok, I understand your POV. I just can't agree with you. What Mary suffered, to me, does not justify her actions. I pity the princess that suffered under Henry and Anne, but I do not pity the queen. And I do not blame any of the females in this situation. I blame Henry for all of it!
This is not a justification, this is a *cause*. How could Mary be expected to look favorably upon a religion that destroyed and looted Catholic churches and murdered Catholic priests and nuns during the reformation and whose teachings her father used to discard her mother and disiherit and basterdize her in favor of Anne and Elizabeth and which caused her brother to bully her and her sister to take his side?
Plus, even as the Queen who caused the Marian Persecutions, Mary still was not the evil monster of Protestant and Elizabethan propaganda, and even though Elizabeths reign was more successful, there were still positive aspects of Marys. If anything, she set the foundation for Elizabeth when she could just as easilly ordered her death and named Mary Stuert her heir instead.
Thanks for posting, a great clip! I agree she was very good, though to be fair it is pretty rare that a Mary of this age has been portrayed in film, unfortunately....
Did they have to send that bastard to deliver the message to her? So not right.
Meela234 3 months ago
"Like" this if you are planning Thomas Boleyn's demise with me!
CatieCass 3 months ago
This video is sad and angers me. Katherine and Mary never deserved the treatment they got from Henry and Anne. Katherine was the true queen of england, not anne. And Katherine and Henry's marriage was valid. It was Henry and Anne's marriage that was not valid! None of Henry's other marriages were valid either except to Katherine of Aragon. Mary was the only true heir to the throne of england! Henry was a horrible tyrant of a "king" and Anne was a troublemaker.
28804ecorrell 4 months ago 2
@28804ecorrell In my opinion a true marriage which is in love but marrige of Katherine of Aragon and Henry wasn't in love. It was just a marriage of convenience. Of course, at the beginning of their matrimony Katherine liked Henry becouse she was his first wife, his woman. But they were very different and Henry began to cool down to her. As for Anne Boleyn I believe Henry really loved her and he wasn't afraid to split the church in order to marry her.
ZZZANNAMARIYZZZ 2 months ago
Sarah Bolger Rules!!!
cloudvol7 6 months ago
I just want to punch Thomas Boleyn's face. And by the way, why couldn't Mary call herself a princess of spain? Her mother was one in her own right.
uniquelyanonymoslyme 7 months ago
@uniquelyanonymoslyme Because Mary was the daughter of King Henry and a subject of England, not Spain.
LaBoricua2591 6 months ago
@uniquelyanonymoslyme in Spain only the inmediate heir or heiress to the crown can use the title of Prince or Princess ( of Asturias) ..Mary could be use the title of infanta of Spain
astrofabio68 5 months ago
@uniquelyanonymoslyme I think that if she did it her Spanish cousins would had become her enemies. Becouse actually she hadn't a big prerogative to sit on the Spanish throne her mother was the yongest of Isabella I of Castile's children that's why Mary was lastest in the queue in Spanish crown. I think it would be a scandal on any way. So Mary had a considered opinion in her right on English crown and she defended it well.
ZZZANNAMARIYZZZ 2 months ago
Poor Mary. Henry seperated his wife from her beloved daughter for years and he had Anne executed leaving Elizabeth lonely and vulnerable. That royal bastard, he has no consideration for mother's and daughters b/c all he wants is a son, I hope he's burning in Hell.
chocolatefountain95 1 year ago
Poor Mary
PrincessKarrah 1 year ago 2
Is this ''Mary'' the sister of Anne or someone else? Is she the daughter of...?...who?
Tereseboo 1 year ago
@Tereseboo Mary Tudor was the daughter of Catherine of Aragon
Mary Boleyn was Anne Boleyn's sister
And JIC Mary Stuart was Mary Queen of Scots
chocolatefountain95 1 year ago
I hated this Bolena
QueenAlexandra2007 1 year ago
Mary was kind to Elizabeth in Elizabeth's childhood years, but after Edward died she saw Elizabeth as a threat and imprisoned her and was prepared to kill her, because she knew Elizabeth was not the Catholic faith and she wanted England to be Catholic, but in the end she spared Elizabeth's life, and didn't dethrone her. She was both mean and kind to Elizabeth, mostly because of what Elizabeth's mother did to her mother.
mckfrr 1 year ago
Man, Mary was brave saying what she did straight to Anne's father.
hogwartsluv 1 year ago
Mary would later get sweet revenge on Cranmer for declaring her a bastard. Off to the stake!
ligreekguy 1 year ago 2
it dat a bruise on her left eye?
abbyberalizrodriguez 1 year ago
I wish this series would go through Elizabeth's reign.
arkanox111 1 year ago
Most movies can be pretty inaccurate when it comes to history yet everyone is always quoting them or believes one film's interpretation of a character is the true image of who they really were when they really just twisted it to their liking. Don't rely on pop culture, they're just trying to entertain you. Rely on history books.
Chelsey910 1 year ago
Long live Queen Mary! Long live the Catholicism in England! Long live the Queen!
oguzsaltik 1 year ago
that is totally Eleanor Lamb from Bioshock 2!
Skyntalor 2 years ago
GO MARY!
evaperonfan 2 years ago
I love Princess Mary in the Tudors and have always felt somewhat sympathetic towards Mary Tudor. Had Henry allowed her to remain a princess even after he so callously set her mother aside and arranged a marriage for her then perhaps her later unhappiness would/could have been avoided and there would have been less suffering during her reign.
bellatrixblack1984 2 years ago 4
Mary was a verey brave young woman.
TheHistoryfanatic 2 years ago
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Sarah Boah <3
luluboahsexynonono 2 years ago
Sarah is gorgeous.
GerryDisthename 2 years ago
im in love with Sarah Bolger she goes into my head all the time when i think about her
ariandanehkar123 2 years ago
i love her sarah bolger! <3
thedogmode 2 years ago
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She believed in God, but followed Satan.
thomasbecketshatin 2 years ago
I agree!
GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago
i dont agree. she believed in god, but the choices, decisions, and marriages his father made just grew an evil inside her, and she used it for anyone against her. A normal person would carry a lot of hate if her father would forbid them to communicate to their loving mother, who later died from maltreatment.
cindyy2121 2 years ago 23
I agree. I think she became evil.
GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago
her father spent his time marrying and sleeping with women. she was constantly engaged to men, and then it would always be broken. some of the men she was bethrotled to were unattractive and old, and you could tell henry didnt even care when he was choosing them.
cindyy2121 2 years ago 4
she was married to Philip who hardly loved her, and they were never able to deliver a child in her reign. all this hate came together and she took it out on anyone who didnt believe in her, since her whole life growing up consisted of people who didnt believe or love her and her mother, which i believe it isnt fair. so please take this all into thought before you begin to talk of her like this, since its not her fault she was treated and raised like this. she couldnt stop it or walk away from it
cindyy2121 2 years ago 17
hmmm. I see where you're coming from. Still, that's no excuse for her actions against people who hurt her. I've had a bad adolescence myself, but I don't take it out on people who haven't hurt me.
GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago 4
thanks for understanding me. i do agree as well, since its not fair for anyone to loose their life just because someone said so. and in the brutal way they died is still heartbreaking too
cindyy2121 2 years ago 4
ok well if u r going to attack her for the death of anglicans please note that none of these british monarchs are any better. they all have blood on there hands, and they all have there excuses for that blood too. take elizabeth and her father henry into account as well. elizabeth has blood on her hands as well
fleurgi 2 years ago
except that Elizabeth never killed anyone for their religious beliefs. People were executed for treason, not heresy. Big difference.
quenek 1 year ago
@quenek murder is murder in my opinion so if u wanna call one monarch out u better call every single one if them out. Henry executed ppl for treason you say? really so Anne's failure to give him a son was treason. and for Elizabeth executing Mary Queen of Scots was purely for treachery and had nothing to do with religion like the fact that Mary was a catholic? i'm so tired of this the anti-catholic agenda
fleurgi 1 year ago 2
@quenek Oh, hell yeah, big difference. Elizabeth condemned many people to die for being Catholic UNDER THE GUISE of 'treason'! (What was the "treason"? Being Catholic!) Some of you have said you're going by the way Elizabeth is portrayed in the Cate Blanchett film. That film is such a biased load of horse--it anyone can see that. Needless to say, that is not the true Elizabeth. it is the idealized misrepresentation of her which England has given the world for hundreths of years.
CorieFaulkner 1 year ago
@CorieFaulkner what was queen elizabeth really like then?
elinheartstristin 1 year ago
I don't hope that Mary's persecution against the protestants is explained as revenge, hatred or any another presonal reason.
We need to understand her religion.Her religion make her believe that she was doing the heretics good and help them to get rid of the evil and hell
long6115555 2 years ago
exactly. She only had a catholic reference from which she viewed life. Just as anyone who is zealous in their beliefs would resent being forced to give them up, so was Mary. She remained true to her convictions, even when doing so meant she was courting death. At the time in which she lived, Protestantism was not that strong in England, which is why it was relatively easy to throw that train in reverse in 1553. But also, enough people had tasted the new religion and didn't want to go back.
quenek 1 year ago
hence the Wyatt Revolt and the work behind the scenes of Protestants over on the continent to putting their store in the Princess Elizabeth--and why her life hung in the balance until 1558.
quenek 1 year ago
I was still floored when I saw Sarah Bolger as Mary for the first time. Damn, so that's "Bloody Mary"? If I was around at that time I would've gladly given up being a protestant for her. It should be "Mary full of grace".
hulkmeister23 2 years ago
really? I'm sorry, but nothing will make me give up my faith. I like Catholocism, but it's not for me. And I think any catholic would consider referring to Mary Tudor as "Mary full of grace" to be blasphemous. Mary Tudor may be misunderstood, but to compare her to the Virgin Mary is uncalled for.
AnaliaHyrule 2 years ago 3
Ana, sweetheart, it was a joke, referring to how hot the actress made Mary look. I'm not really Catholic, either.
Man, you feminists take things too seriously.
hulkmeister23 2 years ago 4
it has nothing to do with me being a feminist, it has everything to do with me having Asperger's. I can't tell when anyone's making a joke.
AnaliaHyrule 2 years ago 2
Kay?
hulkmeister23 2 years ago
I love Sarah. Perfect face.
kinft200 2 years ago
ok mary rocks but I think that she should have been a bit more nice to her sister later on in life. I mean she is still your blood but also it's all her fathers fault for the way she turned out a girl needs a father figure in her life. Her father was jacked up on women and having a iffing baby boy when really supposedly the best ruler out of the family ended up begin one of the girls Elizabeth GIRL POWER
mustangluly 2 years ago
But Mary was nice to Elizabeth for most of their lives. They were like normal siblings, they loved each other and hated each other. Explain to me how Mary "hated" Elizabeth, but still left her the throne of England. Explain how it was pure hatred that cause Mary to spare Elizabeth's life. Mary was not the evil person many people think she was to Elizabeth.
MissBellaGreen 2 years ago 3
well she ended up giving the throne to Elizabeth cause she didn't have any kids and in the end she couldn't kill Elizabeth because she was her sister after all. I'm going by what I say in the movie 'Elizabeth' if you watch the movie Mary is a total bitch that's why I like this version of Mary
mustangluly 2 years ago
I've seen both of the Elizabeth movies and I find them quite historically innacurate. They made Mary out to be some ugly shrew, but she was rather pretty and was nice, but had flaws. This Mary is much more accurate than the Mary in Elizabeth. And just to add, Mary could easily have given the throne to her Socttish cousins, or to Jane's younger sisters since Elizabeth was recognized as fit to be queen in the country's laws' eyes.
MissBellaGreen 2 years ago 3
Yea but Mary was the first in line after Edward =) So she got dibs on the throne its just to bad she didn't give the people freedom of religion. To believe what they wanted to believe
mustangluly 2 years ago
I was arguing that she could easily have executed Elizabeth or disinherited her. Had Elizabeth been disinherited, she would not have had enough outside support to take the throne back. And no, Mary didn't give freedom of religion, but that was how she was raised. That there was nothing wrong with forcefully supporting the church of England. Besides, there were also many plots to overthrow her, it's not like they were all "martyrydoms".
MissBellaGreen 2 years ago
@MissBellaGreen its a fact that mary was cold to Elizabeth while
she was in her teenage years caus she thought of her mother anne bolyen
it must of hard for Elizabeth to have some ppl look at her but not see her for
herself but only her mother as i know herny did for a long time mary did
have advantage after all of having katherine of aragon as mother everyone loved her mother
kerinapetshop 1 year ago
@kerinapetshop No, it's a fact that Mary was cold to Anne Boleyn and by extension Elizabeth in some ways during Anne Boleyn's reign. However, as Elizabeth grew up, she and Mary grew close together. Mary was very fond of Elizabeth once she wasn't a princess. After that, their hatred did not grow strongly for a while until the issue of succession came into play many years later. It's not merely a fact that Mary was cold to her though.
MissBellaGreen 1 year ago
@kerinapetshop No it's not a fact. I don't where you got that bull. Mary became cold to Elizabeth when they grew up. Not while Elizabeth was a teenager.
lloydistosexy 11 months ago
@MissBellaGreen and dont think that eveerything that happens on the toudors
is what happend in real life cause its not
kerinapetshop 1 year ago
@kerinapetshop Also, I've been studying the Tudor Dynasty for the past four or five years now, trust me, I don't believe most of what's on The Tudors, I research before I presume it's true. However, a lot of the occurrences are rumors of what happened and hold some historical accuracy, if not much.
MissBellaGreen 1 year ago
Sorry, but I don't feel sorry for Mary. Not one bit.
AnaliaHyrule 2 years ago
Then I hope a similer thing happens to you and nobody feels a bit sorry for you either.
Karenjade 2 years ago
let me rephrase that. I feel sorry for the princess who lost her mother and was cruelly treated by her father and stepmother, but not for Queen Mary.
AnaliaHyrule 2 years ago
that's uncalled for. Just because you hero worship Mary doesn't mean you should wish harm on someone else that doesn't agree with you!
AnaliaHyrule 2 years ago 2
Well, you cannot judge someone until you walk a mile in their shoes. I know you have Aspergers, but try to understand; We do not "hero worship" Mary, but we know she and Catherine were the ones in the right here. It was Henry and Annes treatment of her and her mother that traumatized Mary into clinging to her Catholic faith and hating the Protestant faith enough to bring back the herasy laws. Not to mention Edward trying to bully her into converting and Elizabeth taking his side.
Karenjade 2 years ago 3
ok, I understand your POV. I just can't agree with you. What Mary suffered, to me, does not justify her actions. I pity the princess that suffered under Henry and Anne, but I do not pity the queen. And I do not blame any of the females in this situation. I blame Henry for all of it!
AnaliaHyrule 2 years ago 2
This is not a justification, this is a *cause*. How could Mary be expected to look favorably upon a religion that destroyed and looted Catholic churches and murdered Catholic priests and nuns during the reformation and whose teachings her father used to discard her mother and disiherit and basterdize her in favor of Anne and Elizabeth and which caused her brother to bully her and her sister to take his side?
Karenjade 2 years ago
Plus, even as the Queen who caused the Marian Persecutions, Mary still was not the evil monster of Protestant and Elizabethan propaganda, and even though Elizabeths reign was more successful, there were still positive aspects of Marys. If anything, she set the foundation for Elizabeth when she could just as easilly ordered her death and named Mary Stuert her heir instead.
Karenjade 2 years ago
Was that necessary to wish something so horrible on me? I guess you're right. I deserve it for being so horrible to Sainnt Mary.
evaperonfan 2 years ago
is that Mary queen of scots??
oxCrystalProductions 3 years ago
No, it's her cousin Mary I of England, dubbed as Blood Mary who was known for the Marian Persecutions of Protestants in England.
MissBellaGreen 3 years ago
sarah bolger is without a doubt one of the most beautiful actresses ever.
zehntori 3 years ago 2
Superb acting & beauty ;)
freemancarl 3 years ago
Thanks for posting, a great clip! I agree she was very good, though to be fair it is pretty rare that a Mary of this age has been portrayed in film, unfortunately....
sherrilina 3 years ago 3