Women Firefighters: Fighting Fires and Oppression (UGA)

[RickySouthwell]

@ParamedicRescue0246 You made that story up, there's no way a women can lift a 250 pound support beam. Women have lower standards then men do to become a firefighter or a police officer so don't make up bull shit story's so you can sound all high and mighty.

[cody111495]

I respect all fire fighters.

[Hunterbgpz]

Sorry, I just can't see this woman moving a 200 pound support-beam in order to save someone's life :/ Sorry, I just can't :(

[ParamedicRescue0246]

@Hunterbgpz im a women,and about a month ago there was a boy probably about the age of 14 stuck under a beam,i looked around to make sure if i moved the beam it wouldnt make any more debris fall,luckily not,so i called it in that i found a person,my partner was to pull the boy out while i was to lift it,the beam wheighed about 250,

im not proud that i did it,i've been working as a FF for almost 3 years paid,i was a volly for 2,like men we can be strong or weak,depending how we are physically.

[ParamedicRescue0246]

@Hunterbgpz i know you wernt talking about all women thats why i added the last part, :D 

[pickford7812]

Men and women in the fire service have the same standards as NFPA 1001.

[24dfisherman]

dancebabe75-like the fact that you did this as a school project-but the next time you interview the female firefighters, just make sure (maybe by asking there coworkers) that they are worthy of the term "firefighter"

[iknow8425]

@24dfisherman She should also ask the firefighters if holding a door for a stretcher makes them an EMT

[omnissience]

@iknow8425 or if holding a door for a stretcher makes them a chauvinist who oppresses stretchers with outdated chivalry.

[loonyhairchickd6969]

alot of u guys are sooo damn sexiest i am a female firefighter and i do the same things just as the males does we get no special treatment we gotta do the same training no different besides the fact that we are females. it sucks that you guys cant accept the fact that a female can be strong enuff to do the job if a female can give birth there aint a damn thing we cant do

[MrProfire]

@loonyhairchickd6969 Totally agree, if a female Firefighter applicant passes the same test as males they deserve the job just as much as anyone. Unfortunately there are cities that are lowering standards in order to meet a quota, it's happening in my city right now and the people that are the most angry are our current female firefighters that passed the physical back before all the changes.

[loonyhairchickd6969]

@MrProfire i guess i can see throught that and i can feel the other females pains when i did it i got no special treatment i had to do it as the guys would and they pressured me even more cuz the fact i am female i had to prove something it should be the same for all i feel no special treatment thats a fair way but still some ppl are just soo hateful becuz we are females they dont think we belong

[24dfisherman]

number one..shes a total fraud, and couldnt find her way out of a burning building if she had to..

number two..she enjoys the whole jealous wife thing-she loves using other peoples lifes for her own enjoyment

she needs to go back to acting where she belongs--because the pretending to be a firefighter isnt working for her

[iknow8425]

@24dfisherman Ur full of shit. Ur a fraud posting on a ff post.

[CETRONIA331]

Leave it to the Men

[JoeSoap68]

Fucking joke women in the fire service!!!!

[dell62395]

@JoeSoap68 Ms. Ivey also has a fatal cardiac problem not just color blind. she cant rise a 28 ft extension ladder without fallin out with chest pains.

[pomppa85]

You guys insult the first female in this video, yet you allow fat, unfit pieces of shit male firefighters to do the job? It is not about muscle only, it is about size ratio, cardio and health. Withot a doubt, the first firefighter in this video has much better cardio and health than many male firefighters.

[Razlo5000]

@pomppa85

First of all, WHAT fat, unfit firemen are you talking about?!

Second:

"you allow fat, unfit pieces of shit male firefighters to do the job?"

Really?! You're talking about FIREMEN, you sexist, misandric dipshit!

Unqualified women have no business doing jobs like these. Could these women move a 200 pound man? Doubt it. Would they ever have to so long as men are around?-Also doubtful. Yet despite the unequal risks, do they get paid the same as men? Almost certainly.

[dancebabe75]

I made this video just as a school project a couple years ago. It was difficult to get in contact with female fire firefighters in the area that were willing to talk. I had no idea it would create such a debate!

[DeeWeext]

that's a weird kitchen.. oh wait.. she drives... medical... secratary,, nah everything is fine

[hogo1]

I really hope these girls are just sitting behind a desk.

[ladyEulaelie]

@TheDurationPlusFive Hahaha, did you think of this response while looking out of a kitchen window? You are dumber than a box of rocks...just damn

[CpsLock3]

This should not be an issue about gender or "being denied to do what she is passionate of doing" This is an issue about can you carry a guy who is over 200 pounds in an isolated room in a burning building under a short amount of time?

[prschuster]

@CpsLock3 The solution to issues of gender is to have the same standards for everyone, male or female, making them realistic for the job. It's as simple as that. Leave gender out of the equation and let the chips fall where they may. If a particular woman can meet those standards, fine... if not, too bad.

[CpsLock3]

@prschuster So by your plan. Oh sorry Tim your overweight father was just to heavy to lift "our team" tried everything in "our" power to save him. Comment poster: What a strong woman it is a shame she couldn't save the father but oh well GOTTA BE EQUILZ :)

[prschuster]

@CpsLock3 No, by my plan there would be realistic standards in place for all applicants so that anyone, male or female who qualified, would be able to do the job. I thought I made that clear enough. Of course there would be more males with the physical strength to do the job.

[eidius1989]

@prschuster agreed there should be a test that pushes applicants to limits of their physical abilities and there should be a standard, if a woman or man is unable to pass the test then they fail. in another video, a game show, a woman had to bust down a door and even though she was a firefighter she failed. thats wrong. this should not happen. a man with no firefighting training easily completed the task. i will not endanger lives for "equality" thats just stupid.

[iknow8425]

@eidius1989 I saw that vid. FFs do not break down doors with their shoulder, maybe in movies and on gameshows. They use a prybar, axe or other tool in the real world.

[eidius1989]

@iknow8425 yes, i have seen FFs at work too, they used axes and other tools. however to say that a you dont need physical strenght to put your shoulder into it and break down a door then thats silly. maybe a man can break down a door with the tools in 2 minutes but a woman takes 3 or 4 minutes. thats valuable time lost. thats my point, have one test that everyone needs to pass, BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T LOWER THE STANDARDS SO WOMEN HAVE A CHANCE. that would be beyond retarded.

[thehotshirtguy2008]

@prschuster A buddy of mine used to work for CALFIRE, the females have less weight to carry and shorter walls to climb in training. I can't remember exactly what he said, but I remember in the army it was the same way for physical fitness.I'd see female NCO's and think "Well, she's not MY peer." I heard this one female LT bragging about her 300PT score, the funny thing was her 300 was equal to my 180 (barely passing). lol

[prschuster]

@thehotshirtguy2008 In all fairness, if there are different standards based on gender, then there should be different job descriptions as well. If I, as a male, tried out for the fire dept and couldn't make the grade physically, while women could pass the test with a lower score than me, I'd feel discriminated against. I mean female MDs and lawyers have to pass the same licensing exams. Firefighting should be no different.

[thehotshirtguy2008]

@prschuster It's the same way in colleges across America. Minorities have lower test standards as well... but asians and Jews don't count for some reason. Weird huh?

[flyinmoon]

again, read my posts. most of them can do what men do after going the SAME training like men. insulting people by calling women vagina does not make you argument convincing, it just make u look like an a-hole

[dfdytpasswd22]

@flyinmoon So if you are saying that 'most' of them can do what men do (which I doubt) then even you are admitting that some can't.

Better hope that if you are in a burning building there's a male firefighter to pull you out

[blackman6270]

@flyinmoon The top 10% of the female firefighters (with training) have the physical abilities of an average male (without training). If someone would said that you could help female firefighters proof themselves, but at the same time reduce you chances of making it out of a burning house by 90% would you do it?

[flyinmoon]

also women joining firefighting is not about "girl power". it is about doing what they are passionate about. it's not right to discourage them when they demonstrate the ability to do the job. I'm not saying women should join firefighting just for the sake of just wanting to join. I'm saying they should join if this is who they want to be and they are capable of doing it

[CpsLock3]

I want somone phsyicaly capible to drag my ass out of a burning building not somone who met the vagina quota.

[TheDurationPlusFive]

@CpsLock3 Not even four inches, huh?

[CpsLock3]

@TheDurationPlusFive Irrelevant and inappropriate . Please take this discussion seriously next time.

[CpsLock3]

@flyinmoon Affermitive action is mostly a vagina quota. Also I hope most of those women are psycicaly capible as you say they are then " dont worry women we had to be equil so you don't have to knock down as many doors to save somones life in the training.

[flyinmoon]

@ladyEulaelie I also said general knowledge does not apply to them, and women can definitely pass the test without special treatment and there are no proof that women are unable to get the jobs done effectively. it's does not matter to me who is doing the job, their performance is the only thing that matters. and statistic do state that "by the end

of training, the females’ combined size, strength and fitness averaged 96% of their male counterparts"

[ladyEulaelie]

@flyinmoon The strength need to perform the job with a skill that can be used to max. use does not point to women. It's not opinion, just genetics; it's not opinion, just physics. If you hate the truth, mad at the facts, or simply want to disagree, baby, do you. We can agree to disagree. Humbly, I ask, what is wrong w/ being judgmental? Life is impossiblt to live w/o making judments. strive to make just judgments.

[flyinmoon]

@ladyEulaelie actually it is judgmental because you generalize all women are physically weak. In fact most women are weaker than men but this "common knowledge" simply does not apply to the those woman who have been train for long period time. Generalization is not a fact, it's just a way to refuse to look deeper into the issue. Believe me, I don't want the standard be lower just for female firefighters either. 

[ladyEulaelie]

@flyinmoon

Yes, I do judge the average female as having weaker upper body strength as the average male. Do you not see that you are saying the EXACT SAME THING you accuse me of when you say, "In fact most women are weaker than men."

Did I say EVERY single woman is physically weaker than EVERY individual man? NO. Women can train & increase in strength, however, more than likely, a male who is also training, will naturally be stronger than a woman who is training. This is a general FACT.

[ladyEulaelie]

@flyinmoon

I'm all for individuals doing what they are good at & becoming better to be great, male or female. Go BOY, go GIRL, however, individuals need to take focus off their pride, & realize that FF is all about saving lives. Meritocracy for sake of political correctness is NOT ok. You strick me as being biased already in your opinion. How can you, in your "go girl...girl power" brain washed mindset, discern between just generalization & unjust generalizations? Looks like you can't.

[ladyEulaelie]

@flyinmoon The question are, "can you do the job well?", "can your skills be used to maximum use?". What I find amazing is that not every man, who has remarkably inferior strength compared to an average, can become a FF. It takes a very fit person w/ robust strength to pass. Women are passing bc the test in many states are tailored toward their weakness...STRENGTH. This is unacceptable.

[ladyEulaelie]

@flyinmoon Isn't it ignorant to be so quick to assume what others think before they say or write it? Pay close attention to what i have written. I reiterate: I don't want inferior test for doctors or nurses, and sure as hell don't want inferior test for FF. To a woman who can pass the same test given to men, I applaud her and wish her the best in her career.

[ladyEulaelie]

@flyinmoon Proof? Well...will common Knowledge and sense do it for ya? I didn't say women CAN'T. Statics. The thing about statics is I don't have to know every female in the general population to make a comment.

[ladyEulaelie]

@HappyHooker I'd rather be called a misogynist than a feminist ANY day! Trust me, you made my day. Answer me this. Yes, most of NYC firefighters are overwhelmingly male but how many female firefighters died on 911 when the towers fell? Screw lowering standards for political correctness.

[flyinmoon]

@ladyEulaelie answer this, do you have any proof female firefighters hinder the progress of saving? it is just down right sad that you would leave such judgmental comments before you actually get to know them. it's just show how ignorant you are.

[ladyEulaelie]

@HappyHooker83 Men are generally STRONGER than women. Are there women capable of passing the same standard traditional test men have taken? Sure, but few and far between. Standards should not have to be made inferior bc the majority of ppl not passing happen to be women. God help us if a woman finds 1 area she naturally, by no means of oppression to her, can't excel. Males and females have different strengths and weakness. Build a bridge and get over it. To hooker, from a lady.

[ladyEulaelie]

I know this hurts someone, but If I'm in a burning building, I don't want to see a female firefighter....I want to see a fireMAN. Sure, women can do some good, but Men are generally more stronger than us even if we are physically trained. I don't understand how we even think to allow women in such a position of high level of responsibility, saving or not being able to save lives just to say women are now have more variety of careers and "equality". Can we just stop it now. 

[HappyHooker83]

@ladyEulaelie Crakkka misogynist bytch, you got some puny men, too and you have some womyn who can beat your ass! Yeah, it is true that men tend to have 10% to 5% more body mass than womyn. It is also true that white men, who form the majority of firefighters, are not string because their lack of melanin produces less melancytes which equals no testosterone which is why white boys got little dicks! As a sex worker, I know for a fact a puny BLACK MAN can pick me up,

[HappyHooker83]

@ladyEulaelie but a bigger WHITE BOY has a hard time because they are just not, well, strong. Should we disqualify white boys who on average are almost effeminate looking because of their lack of testosterone? So, no, let the female firefighters. But give me a big BLACK womyn or even white lady because I know they will get the job done!

[TheDurationPlusFive]

@ladyEulaelie People like you NEVER burn to death in buildings, sadly. Only the good die young. An ignorant, hateful, waste of space sexist like you will live 111 years sucking tax dollars down your toothless hole and filling diapers with them in the retirement home.

[CpsLock3]

@TheDurationPlusFive Also Ms. Feminist over here is totally not a sexist because she made fun of my dick size. She was just being “funny" and if she was not then it is not her fault the mean guy who was concerned about people being replaced by less capable people all in the name of political correctness is actually a bad idea for any future victims health didn't agree with the political correctness cult.

[ladyEulaelie]

@TheDurationPlusFive

Do you have trouble reading because if you did, you would have read that I had no problem with women being fighters. Nothing you have said is remotely intelligent. The only waste of space is your comment. Delete it.

[TheDurationPlusFive]

@ladyEulaelie I have a better idea, why don't you shut up and get your tits out? All your type's good for anyway.