MenuetOS in Action

[JohnnyKS5]

@khoraski Did you tried Solaris or OpenSolaris? Hm they're both Unix

[khoraski]

if only it could connect to the internet

[RetroCopS]

@khoraski it can!

[khoraski]

@RetroCopS how? i can't find a freakin WiFi thing anywhere.

[RetroCopS]

@khoraski Well I thought it worked through a cable. Maybe I am wrong...

[khoraski]

@RetroCopS WiFi isn't through a cable. I don't have a cable, if it is not WiFi compatible then it is not internet compatible for me.

[RetroCopS]

@khoraski lol. why do you want to use this os anyways?

[khoraski]

@RetroCopS I just want to use an OS that's not Mac, Windows, or Linux. I have Haiku on my PC, but I need to hook up to LAN to get on the internet .

[RetroCopS]

@khoraski Well have you tried FreeBSD or writing your own?

[khoraski]

@RetroCopS Haiku. It's an OS based around FreeBSD.

[Svettjodd]

That site is about Solar_OS, also small and written in asm, just like MenuetOS.

So, from that example, I don't really see your point in saying "small isn't always better", or even advocating C over asm?

[inclusivedisjunction]

I posted the link as an example of an operating system that was written by a college student that is monumentally better than MenuetOS. I never advocated C over assembly, only good programming over bad. In order for my "small isn't always better" statement to be true, you need only one example of something small and bad. The example: MenuetOS

[thanatosor]

@inclusivedisjunction then Prove it

[inclusivedisjunction]

@thanatosor

Prove what?

[IAINMAN96]

Menuet is cool but it doesn't work on my PC... I prefer KolibriOS! It's much more better!

[Danny77uk]

If this was written in Assembly why is it so slow?

[inclusivedisjunction]

You can write crappy code in any programming language. Well-written code in C will beat poorly-written code in Assembly.

Also, MenuetOS lacks any sort of video hardware acceleration, so it has a slower screen redraw time. That, and MenuetOS doesn't use any CPU cache (or so I've heard), so it slows down to the speed of whatever RAM you have in your system.

[maroon5rule]

True that, writing good code in assembly isn't easy, it's pretty much impossible unless you got years of time or if you're the person with the most logic insight in the whole world.

[vladmirgc]

Probably because it was loaded from the floppy disk drive, or other device, instead of the HD.

MenuetOS is a piece of art.

Writing an entire OS in Assembly is not easy.

Avoid reading some cap, like the one typed by "inclusivedisjunction".

[inclusivedisjunction]

I never said writing an operating system (or anything else) was easy. If you're the type of person who thinks throwing paint at a canvas is "art", then I suppose how I could see how you view MenuetOS as such. Truth is MenuetOS is a poor example of assembly programming and a poor example of an operating system in general. I've seen faster and more reliable operating systems made by college students. If there is one thing Menuet does well, its to serve as an example of "small isn't always better."

[SonikkuZaHedgehog127]

@inclusivedisjunction

I would like to see one of these college student OSs you speak of.

[inclusivedisjunction]

@SonikkuZaHedgehog127

Sure thing. YouTube's a little gay with website links, but I'll try spelling out the URL:

(3 w's) dot oby dot ro slash os

[MyOverflow]

If I'm not mistaken, this OS was written in Assembly with the FASM, correct?

[MyOverflow]

Haha when I put "the FASM", I forgot to type "Assembler" after "FASM".

I guess I was right by seeing the +1 next to my comment, though. :)

[GhostXoP]

can you use c++ with writing an assembler operating system?

[MyOverflow]

You can't use C++ to write an operating system created in Assembly... The fact that it's written in Assembly means it's not C++. However, you can use assembly to write an operating system in C or C++, due to the fact that some memory addressing and the boot basically require assembly.

If your question is if you can write in C++ using an OS written in Assembly, then of course you can! As long as the executable files for the compiler are in the OS (or can be ported to the OS), then it's usable.

[GhostXoP]

yeah i know you need assembler to boot it but can you build off it with c++ or c?

[maroon5rule]

These days assembly isn't the best choice anymore though, modern compilers can create better code from ordinary C or C++ files, as long as they are coded in a correct way. And not to mention, there's always the inline assembly feature, so basically that made me say no to a complete application in assembly. I agree however, If you're a genius you can create better code with hand written assembly, but on machines these days (I7/I9) .. lots of people won't even bother anymore.

[FS747]

innotek VirtualBox runs this. ive done it

[Wetenschap]

Wow, these guys are good man. I mean written it all in assembler, is a heel of a job. I think this will have a great future, only I don't know where.

I think systems that need a GUI but are stable and fast like an embedded system.

Something like an RTOS but with GUI!

[kernelunderwalker]

i'd like to run this on my vmware, but it just doesn't work!

can someone help me?

[bengaliballa]

wtf is that

[ktxed]

Menuet is ok.

[anijap]

Nice work! :)

[fldz]

If only some driver genius would get it to assimilate graphics drivers made for Window$ it would take over as a PC game platform. Especially since Vista completely sucks. Assembly Language rocks.

[BAGADOOBLE]

interesting

this is the first ive heard of this os

it looks shit but you never know what the future may hold

[loaded357magnum]

Is it supposed to look like ass? I mean, for the layman, ...is this an Os that has a very specialized use and not one which is meant to replace Windows or Linux?

[NerveBand]

See its just a hobby OS really. Its just for testing and seeing how far an Operating System can be pushed. It is a great tech demo to try out though. Its not for replacing linux or windows but rather embedded devices and stuff. Of course at its current state, its beta so bugs here and there.

I recommend you read the website and check it out for yourself in QEMU, Vmware, Bochs, or just natively.

[DasEnde2006]

Sweet! :)