what a stupid idea. No wonder it was rejected. Sending a satallite solely for this purpose would be cheaper than attaching it on a space station. Having a telescope sticking out doesn't really help future space shuttles . It makes it harder to park . Maybe you should go back to the UK and waste your own country's money. America is broke. Stop this nonsense.
@edwardtang1977 What was rejected was the idea of having four people around the world monitor Jupiter from EARTH, not the ISS. Try cleaning out your ears idiot, you might hear what people say better.
Forgive my possible ignorance but wouldn't Cassini already have thousands of hours of Jupiter and it's moons already? And at far better resolutions too i'd guess. Or does Cassini chop and change too much for a long term view of a single planet/moon?
2:20 "point in that direction in perpetuity". I believe the gravity of the earth will cause it to rotate slightly. Impacts of small space debris will probably also have an effect. But for purposes of viewing Jupiter, I agree.
@eahazell we're specifically talking about planets within the Solar System, which have been only rudimentarily explored, expecially the planets that aren't Mars. Anything that wasn't recorded during our short viual glimpses remains hidden. This is even more true of the Jupiter and Saturn moons, and their exploration can tell us all kinds of things.
This is a great idea. I wish this had been a project when I was in very young. I became fascinated by astronomy when I was ten and this would have enhanced that fascination.
The solution to almost every problem facing humanity in terms of energy and pollution can be solved by nano science but earths gravity is in many cases the biggest obstacle for creating these delicate structures. Carbon nano tubes can very easily be made in the vacuum of space by evaporating graphite with a laser and done so very cost efficiently.
It would be possible to make self assembling carbon nano tubes for highly efficient batteries, solar cells,electric motors etc on the ISS.
@poorkinghaggard "Evolution" (especially in conjugated verb form) is a technical term in chemistry, predating (and completely unrelated to) Darwinian evolution by natural selection.
I love the videos TF, thank you for sharing. But I just don't understand why you always sound so drab and down. For somebody who seems so enthusiastic about their endeavors in celestial science, sometimes you just sound bored doing these videos. I would hope that these make you happy and that you get something out of this. You do a great job and I hope that making these videos is fun for you and not a chore that drains the life out of you
This would be incredible. PLEASE TF make a follow up vid, even just a shout out, to whomever makes this. I would absolutely love to see the finished product!
Point it outwards by all mean but ...look, just dont point it back at the earth! Just don't ok, look who knows what those smelly environmentalists point out about climate change. I have a RIGHT to my beliefs! :P
Sounds like a good idea, but it's not as good as it sounds. Pros have considered putting a telescope on the ISS and it fails because there's a lot of crap floating around the space station.
@odysseus9672 The videos would be timelapsed, so, you could select frames that didn't include the crap floating around, and make videos from those frames.
anyone with the know-how care to help me figure out how close I can put a solar array next to the sun? Preferably with the idea to also use the array as a heat engine of some sort?
At worst, Mars has Aliens and the government is afraid we'd all shit ourselves because 'ALIENS EXIST, ZOMG, WTF!'
But, I always assume governments can't keep shit secret, because the more people you employ, the more your risk of some idiot deciding to release the info because the dumbass public 'needs to know'.
Yes, I don't think you should get kids to do this for you, they should come up there own ideas. But I wonder if there were more things like this for adults, non-scientists would care a little more about science.
I am an Atheist simply because it makes more sense than beleiving in that which is without evidence, but as I see Zeno at 15 taking up the challenge and MrGarg at 17.
I think I feel pride in being an Atheist as well as just being right.
What religion in the world has ever been as supportive as this of the ability of it's youth to strike out and acheive rather than blindly follow its elders?
Are you seriously trying to get some kid to front your ideas in a contest that is meant to inspire young people to engage in science? Words fail me.
We need to encourage creative thinking and direct engagement with scientific questions. The problem right now is that kids are being told what questions to ask and are then handed the answers in a textbook. Instead of just handing a kid a project why wouldn't you offer mentorship? Your approach is part of the problem, not the solution.
@sofiarune a mentor....to do what? Teach them how to think, rather than give them ideas? Any kid who were to have taken TF's idea would need to learn it and understand it in order to present it properly, and that is the only way they'd win over others. How is putting an idea out there 'handing kids the answers'? How is it any different than what you propose? What, do you expect he'd just stand there and watch everything the kid does and nod now and then, or actually help them?
@tremedar How is spoon feeding kids ideas any different than dictating how to think? A good mentor acts as a guide. They ask their students more questions than they give answers and they respect the kid's independence. It's about encouraging intellectual growth instead of handing someone a textbook to memorize. Thunderf00t's approach is the same as a parent designing their kid's science project instead of giving them the tools to create their own projects. It's lame.
One major problem, the ISS is not in a polar orbit and passes through day and night each 90 minutes. Also, the ISS orbits at over twice the altitude mentioned in this video. This man is a very good idiot.
Sounds like a great idea. But (according to my calculations) the dV neccesary to move the ISS into a polar orbit, would cost much more than placing an ordinary telescope at such an orbit.
Jupiter is amazing, All amateur astronomers know that. But the most interesting thing for me, would be a way to find out more things about Europa. After all, it's our best bet of finding evolved life, other than our own, within our solar system.
Surely enough, studying Jupiter upclose, would give some hints.
@dgatsoulis what about Titan? Stable conditions, plus a lot of hydrocarbons. Granted, we probably wouldn't find many of those within a short time after matter started to self-replicate.
@Brandt761 Titan has one major backdraw. It's too cold (and no plate tectonics/volcanoes-at least on the surface) . Sure, we have a good chance of finding microbial life, we can even find something similar on Mars. But if we are talking about microbial life that has evolved, i can't think of a better place than Europa.
@dgatsoulis Finding Microbial life isn't some sort of consolation prize of biology. Any form of life that forms it's own separate (extraterrestrial) line is the gold medal, which would essentially de-provincialize the study of living matter. In that sense, size doesn't matter, and Titan is probably easier to study.
@Brandt761 (Disclaimer: I'm not a biologist, just a space-flight enthusiast)."Consolation prize?" Of course it isn't. Finding life somewhere else than our own planet would be one of our greatest achievements. But how could you compare a Titan microbe with already found extremophiles on Earth? Titan is surely much easier to study, no one has to drill a ~100 km hole through sheets of ice to get to the interesting part. And Titan's thick atmosphere helps in the flight itself (aerobraking).
@dgatsoulis well, really, I don't consider finding extremophiles all that much more interesting. They're bigger, and more complex, and bound to have interesting traits, but we already know what extremophile can be like. That's not what we came for. And actually, now that I think about it, the early stages of life is what we are least knowleadgable about; so maybe the more primitive the better. Short of finding actual intelligence, the microbes might be more worth it?
@dgatsoulis It's too cold for our type of biology. But there are obviously temperature differentials as well as winds and rains and obviously a huge range of different micro environments with complex and dynamic things going on. We view water as so essential, but is it? Finding life on Titan would be more definitive than Europa which may have been contaminated by earth microbes.
@zaxtor I've often considered hiring him(or Morgan Freeman) to follow me around and narrate my day to day life, even if only for the benefit of myself..... but i'm told i'm a bit weird...
The most interesting stuff is found here on Earth, and we spend so much money on outer space. Well, there are resources on asteroids and moons so at least developing the tech to mine them and reach them in a reasonable time is worth it. It's impossible to reach another star system in a reasonable time due to the speed of light limitation and how much energy would need to be consumed just to get a pound at just 1/10th light speed.
@jaymthegenius I have to disagree with you for one simple reason: We as a species are not safe on this wet rock. One stray meteor,nuclear war or pandemic can wipe our entire human race. Future is out there in space...
@Warpcaller Information accrues far more rapidly as technology increases. Moore's Law and accelerated change means we'll be able to deal with these problems efficiently, especially with the aid of quantum computing, which could improve upon themselves and potentially displace humans in certain professions. Hey, computer congresspeople can't be any worse than what we have now.
@CrossTheGrigori i agree, I saw on Daily Plsanet on tv that they had a competition throughout 30 or so schools somewhere in Canada and the one with the best idea for an experiment would have it placed in a rocket that would actually be in space for four minutes before returning. The winner: 4 marshmallows on a skewer, expanding in the vaccum of space and collapsing during re-entry. What a waste...
@MrLordLaws its a shame you end every half civilised conversation by trying to bait me into some BS. Now I have to say diplomatic immunity and bid you farewell.
Don't worry Tf00t, in 10 years max we'll all be able to afford a tourist trip into space with Virgin Galactic, thanks to Sir Richard Branson and his visionary work. :)
Put a bag of turd in space, because that is funny and stuff, and if it falls on earth, and someone gets killed by it, they would be killed by shit. No, but seriously, I think we should send a handful of living creatures like dogs, cats, horses, headcrabs, as well as plants, and see how they live in space compared to earth, either that, or we could just go with my lame idea.
I say do it what ever it takes the worst is you learn some thing. the best is! shit You learn some thing. humm better to learn. I wonder if they messuerd wrong I think there 3 ft 4 1/2 inches off on the width of the universe. can anyone check it again? I could be wrong
How about Just going for it and collectively correct what is obviously an idea among intelligent species. rather than the precise this is it and can not be changed mentality I think I am observing here. I am the best in my profession only for one thing. I am the worst at sticking to anything. I believe in remaining fluid in my decision making process cause simply everything can be modified. simply put throw the shit out there and see what flies appears
@CrazeKillen A polar orbit would take the ISS over the north and south poles and twice a year, it would happen that it never crossed into Earth's shadow. That allows you to look at the object for a few days continuously. But it's actual orbit only takes it between 51.6° latitude north and south. You can check the map where that is.
TFoot's telescope could still look at an object that's in the direction normal to the orbital plane, but no planets will be seen in that direction.
@IRisingFuryI I am sure you are correct that it is not in polor orbit. Thunderfoot, This detail is something you need to check on. We like your accuracy on things and when you get it wrong, I am sure you will be the first to admit it. Lets make sure all of us do not act on erronious information. ---------------Sacramento
Dear Dr Bunnyfoot. It took until 3:40 until you sold me on this idea, and only because my own imagination kicked in as to the potential benefits of such a project.
Could you please explain what point you see in this observation other that just watching the celestial dance like a voyeur? It is likely we agree but I'd like to hear/see it from you before proceeding.
i wonder why they didnt already attach hubble-quality telescopes to the ISS, after all there are people there that can always shedule another spacewalk if anything needs fixing or upgrading, also they have robots they can use in space.
Why not build two james webb space telescopes and attach one to the ISS using a robotic arm? Observing conditions are a bit worse, but access and servicing and fixing and upgrading are MUCH easier.
@kurtilein3 One reason: vibrations. If you have ever heard an un-edited video from space, there are a LOT of electrical motors constantly running that are quite noisy. When you are trying to take Hubble quality photos, you can't have vibrations. It would be more trouble than it is worth to insulate a telescopic mechanism from the bumps and whatnot that go on in the ISS.
I dont think thats it. Vibrations can easily be dealt with. Also, i was thinking about a telescope that operates outside of the ISS, in the vacuum, and is just connected to it. Such a connection can be made so that it doesnt transport any vibrations, and it wouldnt be expensive. The trivial idea would be to connect it to the ISS using a rope that is not under tension, have the telescope floating along, and when access is needed you just pull it to the ISS.
Can anyone tell me the reasoning for having 4 observation points on the earth version of this experiment instead of 3? It seems that the same model shown in the video would work with 3 observation points providing continuous observation.
the project was based on volunteers, and if you get one volunteer in new york and one in san francisco they might already be too close together to allow for just 3 doing it. Also, having some overlap/redundancy that allows you to cut out the worst data isnt bad. And while were at it, why not 6 or 10 instead of 3 or 4? redundancy against cloud cover is nice, some will have better resolutions while others have good observing conditioins more often.
That age limit things bugged me, for the Lunar X prize too, like why bother leaving it up to kids only without any opportunity for older people to contribute good ideas?
But yeah, I like the idea of a telescope that can be pointed into space and down to earth.
What do you think about Kepler-22b earths twin amazing discovery there and hope of finding new planets like our own are growing on the Drake equation what do think about it.
A great idea. I hope an enthusiastic teen runs with this.
I read that the ISS adjusts its orbit occasionally (I don't know how frequently) using the engines of docked supply craft or its own on-board engines. Need to re-orientate the proposed telescope.
WOW you sold me this hock line and sinker only problem is M_M I saw this just a little too late XD
lightfdar 2 weeks ago
4:39 thunderstorms in the clouds??
silverballer1911 2 weeks ago
I just realized how much I love your astronomy videos. <3
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thunderf00t I love your vids but your voice drives me insane...just being honest :[
Swoost 1 month ago
U just have a calm voice :-D
Rottensteam 2 months ago
:D
bellyzbad 2 months ago
I've been watching Jupiter though my telescope for the last few weeks. Such a Beautiful planet :-D
wastnTIMEwastnTIME 2 months ago
what a stupid idea. No wonder it was rejected. Sending a satallite solely for this purpose would be cheaper than attaching it on a space station. Having a telescope sticking out doesn't really help future space shuttles . It makes it harder to park . Maybe you should go back to the UK and waste your own country's money. America is broke. Stop this nonsense.
edwardtang1977 2 months ago
@edwardtang1977 What was rejected was the idea of having four people around the world monitor Jupiter from EARTH, not the ISS. Try cleaning out your ears idiot, you might hear what people say better.
tremedar 1 month ago
Your best video ever.
stripe64 2 months ago
That's a very interesting video.
BlazeTheMovieFan 2 months ago
Thanks for posting this type of video! Keep up the good work!
kcmusicus 2 months ago
I'd submit an experiment about relativity and getting younger in the process but I'd have to perform the experiment before submitting it :p
FHomeBrew 2 months ago
Another great vid
shazta88 2 months ago
why doesn´t add blocker block these friggin ads anymore?
bicnarok 2 months ago
Fuck. I'm sorry guys, i procrastinated.
drewsta199 2 months ago
@DrBlueDot Every time you feed a troll the FSM kills a kitten.
tvsinesperanto 2 months ago
@tvsinesperanto Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
DrBlueDot 2 months ago
Forgive my possible ignorance but wouldn't Cassini already have thousands of hours of Jupiter and it's moons already? And at far better resolutions too i'd guess. Or does Cassini chop and change too much for a long term view of a single planet/moon?
tvsinesperanto 2 months ago
I think it is an awesome idea u have .......... Peace
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5 people are from a different solar system.
An0maly777 2 months ago
5 people is from a different solar system.
An0maly777 2 months ago
Come on kids, dont mess this up!
sukablianah2 2 months ago
You've got my vote
xadacka 2 months ago
2:20 "point in that direction in perpetuity". I believe the gravity of the earth will cause it to rotate slightly. Impacts of small space debris will probably also have an effect. But for purposes of viewing Jupiter, I agree.
rg0057 2 months ago
it would be cool to make a "gravitational slingshot" using electromagnetic fields
pghg022 2 months ago
the amount of years I've been on this planet is too damn high.
sleeplessauk 2 months ago 23
Love the idea!!! What an amazing opportunity to watch a time lapse of ourselves from this vantage point!
Bbop78 2 months ago
Can you explain, because I do not know, how this is not redundent to the keplar mission dedicated to looking for plantes outide our solar system
eahazell 2 months ago
@eahazell we're specifically talking about planets within the Solar System, which have been only rudimentarily explored, expecially the planets that aren't Mars. Anything that wasn't recorded during our short viual glimpses remains hidden. This is even more true of the Jupiter and Saturn moons, and their exploration can tell us all kinds of things.
Brandt761 2 months ago 6
@Brandt761 ahh so a look at the local system verses deeper stuff, gotchya
eahazell 2 months ago
@eahazell yup
Brandt761 2 months ago
Great idea to put the downward facing telescope and camera. I would donate money for that.
SpacedTime 2 months ago
say cheese, bitches!!!
Fuzzy192006 2 months ago
amazing pictures in your vid, beautiful.
harpbloke 2 months ago
Awesome suggestion Thunderf00t
longname25 2 months ago
Atheist are so funny:)
And so wrong.
kvj1989 2 months ago
@kvj1989 Relevance is one of your strong points yes?
mriswithmoo 2 months ago
@mriswithmoo Well atleast i'm not lying to myself like you atheist do.
kvj1989 2 months ago
@kvj1989 what am I lying to myself about right now?
Brandt761 2 months ago
@Brandt761 Oh you're a filthy atheist:)
Well you say you don't faith, which is bull.
kvj1989 2 months ago
@kvj1989 but I don't, certainly not in the religious sense. If I did, I would immediately stop believing it once I realized it was faith.
Brandt761 2 months ago
@kvj1989 Do tell how Atheists are lying to themselves?
DrBlueDot 2 months ago
@DrBlueDot Don't bother. You are asking someone that has trouble with the two simplest words we have, 'father' and 'son'.
SlackerSlayer 2 months ago
Bleh, I only have an 8 inch tele... All I could afford at the moment.
JokinJoe 2 months ago
Very inspiring thunderf00t...
Moontanman 2 months ago
I really wish I could help, but I'm too old too.
MichaelTannock 2 months ago
This is a great idea. I wish this had been a project when I was in very young. I became fascinated by astronomy when I was ten and this would have enhanced that fascination.
Great project!
2bsirius 2 months ago
I'd like to see it pointed at uranus... ha ha!
But seriously, good luck with it,
sounds like a great idea!
Petro67 2 months ago 2
I can imagine you talking like this during sexual forplay !!!
Real454545 2 months ago
My idea:
The solution to almost every problem facing humanity in terms of energy and pollution can be solved by nano science but earths gravity is in many cases the biggest obstacle for creating these delicate structures. Carbon nano tubes can very easily be made in the vacuum of space by evaporating graphite with a laser and done so very cost efficiently.
It would be possible to make self assembling carbon nano tubes for highly efficient batteries, solar cells,electric motors etc on the ISS.
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
Oh no, he just said chemical evolution!
poorkinghaggard 2 months ago
@poorkinghaggard "Evolution" (especially in conjugated verb form) is a technical term in chemistry, predating (and completely unrelated to) Darwinian evolution by natural selection.
soundofgeek 2 months ago
I love the videos TF, thank you for sharing. But I just don't understand why you always sound so drab and down. For somebody who seems so enthusiastic about their endeavors in celestial science, sometimes you just sound bored doing these videos. I would hope that these make you happy and that you get something out of this. You do a great job and I hope that making these videos is fun for you and not a chore that drains the life out of you
fenix9885 2 months ago
Thunderf00t has advertisements now?? WTF???
vegasOasis 2 months ago
This is a wonderful idea. I really do hope some bright young spark takes this to Youtube and ISS. Please let this happen!
Vortex42 2 months ago
Listening to TF talk about stuff always piques my interest in these things :D
xxtintin05xx 2 months ago
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!
sabertooth1980 2 months ago
This would be incredible. PLEASE TF make a follow up vid, even just a shout out, to whomever makes this. I would absolutely love to see the finished product!
lostismyconstent 2 months ago
Point it outwards by all mean but ...look, just dont point it back at the earth! Just don't ok, look who knows what those smelly environmentalists point out about climate change. I have a RIGHT to my beliefs! :P
kommissarw 2 months ago
@hominyems How could the general public "not handle it" ? Sounds like a cop out to me.
Halflifefan54 2 months ago
@hominyems Yeah, WE would not want anyone to see the Great Tea Pot in the sky. Humanity simply isn't ready.
CATMAHAT 2 months ago
i like the idea.
ah and btw, stop that conspiracy trash ;p
tr1bute1 2 months ago
Sounds like a good idea, but it's not as good as it sounds. Pros have considered putting a telescope on the ISS and it fails because there's a lot of crap floating around the space station.
odysseus9672 2 months ago
@odysseus9672 The videos would be timelapsed, so, you could select frames that didn't include the crap floating around, and make videos from those frames.
Vortex42 2 months ago
anyone with the know-how care to help me figure out how close I can put a solar array next to the sun? Preferably with the idea to also use the array as a heat engine of some sort?
zachariasadams1984 2 months ago
@hominyems
Again, why?
At worst, Mars has Aliens and the government is afraid we'd all shit ourselves because 'ALIENS EXIST, ZOMG, WTF!'
But, I always assume governments can't keep shit secret, because the more people you employ, the more your risk of some idiot deciding to release the info because the dumbass public 'needs to know'.
Lollocide 2 months ago
@hominyems
err, why? So the US Govermint agencies look at Jupiter, but they don't share their views because....the squashed Jovian's hate publicity?
Lollocide 2 months ago
love ya thunder (pill) f00t ur a smart-ass but we all still love what ur doing , or trying to do
owden18 2 months ago
Yes, I don't think you should get kids to do this for you, they should come up there own ideas. But I wonder if there were more things like this for adults, non-scientists would care a little more about science.
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I am an Atheist simply because it makes more sense than beleiving in that which is without evidence, but as I see Zeno at 15 taking up the challenge and MrGarg at 17.
I think I feel pride in being an Atheist as well as just being right.
What religion in the world has ever been as supportive as this of the ability of it's youth to strike out and acheive rather than blindly follow its elders?
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WKaliberr 2 months ago
I LOVE SCIENCE!
MathPhysChemSkyNerd 2 months ago
Are you seriously trying to get some kid to front your ideas in a contest that is meant to inspire young people to engage in science? Words fail me.
We need to encourage creative thinking and direct engagement with scientific questions. The problem right now is that kids are being told what questions to ask and are then handed the answers in a textbook. Instead of just handing a kid a project why wouldn't you offer mentorship? Your approach is part of the problem, not the solution.
sofiarune 2 months ago
@sofiarune a mentor....to do what? Teach them how to think, rather than give them ideas? Any kid who were to have taken TF's idea would need to learn it and understand it in order to present it properly, and that is the only way they'd win over others. How is putting an idea out there 'handing kids the answers'? How is it any different than what you propose? What, do you expect he'd just stand there and watch everything the kid does and nod now and then, or actually help them?
tremedar 1 month ago
@tremedar How is spoon feeding kids ideas any different than dictating how to think? A good mentor acts as a guide. They ask their students more questions than they give answers and they respect the kid's independence. It's about encouraging intellectual growth instead of handing someone a textbook to memorize. Thunderf00t's approach is the same as a parent designing their kid's science project instead of giving them the tools to create their own projects. It's lame.
sofiarune 1 month ago
I hate these fucking advertisements.
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WKaliberr 2 months ago
You filming the Lunar Eclipse tonight TF?
Babylauncher3000 2 months ago
I'm so drunk I have no idea what the fuck is he talking about
dzonifazoni 2 months ago
17 Years old, and on it good sir!
MrGrarg 2 months ago 8
Let's see if David Cameron and Piers Fletcher Dervish i.e. George Osborne can breathe in a vacuum ; )
stampw0rx 2 months ago
I could pass for a 17-yo. And I'd be more than happy to go and set it up. I'd have to lose some weight, of course...
What about using a perspex-type mirror to reduce the mass? Aerogel?
CephasBorg 2 months ago
Enter as a 16 year old Thunderf00t - Just tell them you had a long paper-round!
neil73 2 months ago
Yay another Ray William Johnson fake troll trying to start an argument by calling TF an idiot I
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mancno1 2 months ago
One major problem, the ISS is not in a polar orbit and passes through day and night each 90 minutes. Also, the ISS orbits at over twice the altitude mentioned in this video. This man is a very good idiot.
RayWillamJohmson 2 months ago
I like your idea!
kellygiz 2 months ago
Sounds like a great idea. But (according to my calculations) the dV neccesary to move the ISS into a polar orbit, would cost much more than placing an ordinary telescope at such an orbit.
Jupiter is amazing, All amateur astronomers know that. But the most interesting thing for me, would be a way to find out more things about Europa. After all, it's our best bet of finding evolved life, other than our own, within our solar system.
Surely enough, studying Jupiter upclose, would give some hints.
dgatsoulis 2 months ago 26
@dgatsoulis what about Titan? Stable conditions, plus a lot of hydrocarbons. Granted, we probably wouldn't find many of those within a short time after matter started to self-replicate.
Brandt761 2 months ago
@Brandt761 Titan has one major backdraw. It's too cold (and no plate tectonics/volcanoes-at least on the surface) . Sure, we have a good chance of finding microbial life, we can even find something similar on Mars. But if we are talking about microbial life that has evolved, i can't think of a better place than Europa.
Thumbs up if you want to go icefishing there.
dgatsoulis 2 months ago
@dgatsoulis Finding Microbial life isn't some sort of consolation prize of biology. Any form of life that forms it's own separate (extraterrestrial) line is the gold medal, which would essentially de-provincialize the study of living matter. In that sense, size doesn't matter, and Titan is probably easier to study.
Brandt761 2 months ago
@Brandt761 (Disclaimer: I'm not a biologist, just a space-flight enthusiast)."Consolation prize?" Of course it isn't. Finding life somewhere else than our own planet would be one of our greatest achievements. But how could you compare a Titan microbe with already found extremophiles on Earth? Titan is surely much easier to study, no one has to drill a ~100 km hole through sheets of ice to get to the interesting part. And Titan's thick atmosphere helps in the flight itself (aerobraking).
dgatsoulis 2 months ago
@dgatsoulis well, really, I don't consider finding extremophiles all that much more interesting. They're bigger, and more complex, and bound to have interesting traits, but we already know what extremophile can be like. That's not what we came for. And actually, now that I think about it, the early stages of life is what we are least knowleadgable about; so maybe the more primitive the better. Short of finding actual intelligence, the microbes might be more worth it?
Brandt761 2 months ago
@dgatsoulis It's too cold for our type of biology. But there are obviously temperature differentials as well as winds and rains and obviously a huge range of different micro environments with complex and dynamic things going on. We view water as so essential, but is it? Finding life on Titan would be more definitive than Europa which may have been contaminated by earth microbes.
ExtantFrodo2 2 months ago
Every day I feel I'm getting older. Feels batman :/
101arg101 2 months ago
I'm 15, i'll do my best to make it TF :D
zenoparodie 2 months ago 86
@zenoparodie
Make us proud, kid. :)
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zenoparodie 2 months ago
He has a calm voice.
A voice of a genius.
zaxtor 2 months ago
@zaxtor I've often considered hiring him(or Morgan Freeman) to follow me around and narrate my day to day life, even if only for the benefit of myself..... but i'm told i'm a bit weird...
TheyCallMeGawd 2 months ago
i have no idea what hes talking about X /
devinthedew2 2 months ago
...i'm in love with your voice!!!
Alineniz 2 months ago
The ISS is on a polar orbit? What?!
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EnDSchultz1 2 months ago
Complex . . makes me wonder how we ever got these things done.
JosiahSCooper 2 months ago
@JosiahSCooper By thinking and understanding and not drinking and killing each other.
Etrajbe 2 months ago
@Etrajbe
I suppose the concoction keeps things interesting.
JosiahSCooper 2 months ago
The most interesting stuff is found here on Earth, and we spend so much money on outer space. Well, there are resources on asteroids and moons so at least developing the tech to mine them and reach them in a reasonable time is worth it. It's impossible to reach another star system in a reasonable time due to the speed of light limitation and how much energy would need to be consumed just to get a pound at just 1/10th light speed.
jaymthegenius 2 months ago
@jaymthegenius I have to disagree with you for one simple reason: We as a species are not safe on this wet rock. One stray meteor,nuclear war or pandemic can wipe our entire human race. Future is out there in space...
Warpcaller 2 months ago
@Warpcaller Information accrues far more rapidly as technology increases. Moore's Law and accelerated change means we'll be able to deal with these problems efficiently, especially with the aid of quantum computing, which could improve upon themselves and potentially displace humans in certain professions. Hey, computer congresspeople can't be any worse than what we have now.
jaymthegenius 2 months ago
@CrossTheGrigori Filling the ISS with doughnuts is NOT a stupid idea!
weeryan2008 2 months ago
@CrossTheGrigori i agree, I saw on Daily Plsanet on tv that they had a competition throughout 30 or so schools somewhere in Canada and the one with the best idea for an experiment would have it placed in a rocket that would actually be in space for four minutes before returning. The winner: 4 marshmallows on a skewer, expanding in the vaccum of space and collapsing during re-entry. What a waste...
legend3061 2 months ago
@MrLordLaws watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=r8u0gqbno9w#t=377s
DynamiteCooMonster 2 months ago
one of these days i hope to work the ISS on my radio. in fact have already seen several good flyovers in the last year.
problem is i am typically at work. at least i got the radio and everything set up so when i am ready i can try.
yellowdart137 2 months ago
@MrLordLaws CAPS ARE FUN ARE THEY NOT. CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!!!
DaAceofGames 2 months ago
@MrLordLaws its a shame you end every half civilised conversation by trying to bait me into some BS. Now I have to say diplomatic immunity and bid you farewell.
DynamiteCooMonster 2 months ago
@MrLordLaws Dunno, I guess when you do something stupid. Shouldn't be too long.
DynamiteCooMonster 2 months ago
@MrLordLaws I'm doing very well, how are you?
DynamiteCooMonster 2 months ago
@MrLordLaws
THUNDER IS BEING TOO POLITICAL. DO MORE SCIENCE.
THUNDERFOOT IS DOING SCIENCE. BORING!
MalchikBlue 2 months ago
Hairy scrotums
spencer19811 2 months ago
Wow video about science Instead biggoting.
machinedean100 2 months ago
@machinedean100 learn to speak english.
Halflifefan54 2 months ago
Nice to see a solid movement to the science stuff.
DynamiteCooMonster 2 months ago
This is a great idea thunderf00t! I hope someone does it!
eatingtacos000 2 months ago
Such a project has my support, albeit only in word not financing. :/ Awesome concept though, looks intriguing.
CRUSH3Rdlux 2 months ago
I knew all you had to do was send it to SPAAAAAAAAAAACCCCEEEEEEEEEE
Space? Space!!
WolfCoder 2 months ago
@WolfCoder Space space! I'm in space! Space is big! Too big....want to go to earth. Want to go to earth now, bored of space.
tremedar 2 months ago
Public Access Pan/ Tilt/ Zoom camera!!
ChristopherHitchslap 2 months ago
Don't worry Tf00t, in 10 years max we'll all be able to afford a tourist trip into space with Virgin Galactic, thanks to Sir Richard Branson and his visionary work. :)
mickeypopa 2 months ago
hey thunderf00t, can you make a video quoting the portal 2 spacecore? that would get some attention to the spacelab
sobored671 2 months ago
Put a bag of turd in space, because that is funny and stuff, and if it falls on earth, and someone gets killed by it, they would be killed by shit. No, but seriously, I think we should send a handful of living creatures like dogs, cats, horses, headcrabs, as well as plants, and see how they live in space compared to earth, either that, or we could just go with my lame idea.
SmilingProtoss 2 months ago
I say do it what ever it takes the worst is you learn some thing. the best is! shit You learn some thing. humm better to learn. I wonder if they messuerd wrong I think there 3 ft 4 1/2 inches off on the width of the universe. can anyone check it again? I could be wrong
AngstromJohnny 2 months ago
How about Just going for it and collectively correct what is obviously an idea among intelligent species. rather than the precise this is it and can not be changed mentality I think I am observing here. I am the best in my profession only for one thing. I am the worst at sticking to anything. I believe in remaining fluid in my decision making process cause simply everything can be modified. simply put throw the shit out there and see what flies appears
AngstromJohnny 2 months ago
Win
richardcadbury 2 months ago
I am reminded of "Only Fools and Horses" where Rodney won a free holiday in an art competition, only to find out Del Boy had put his age in at 15.
NoFaithNoPain 2 months ago
@NoFaithNoPain Del didn't do it - the painting has his age as 14 on it. Del just didn't realise there were categories. Great episode though!
AnFonE 2 months ago
Go onto YouTube and search - Timelapse Geostationary
apeek7 2 months ago
ISS is not in a polar orbit. It's not even close to a polar orbit. Orbital inclination is 51.6°.
IRisingFuryI 2 months ago
@IRisingFuryI i dont really know what you mean, sorry im ignorant when it comes to NASA, how does that affect what hes talking about? cheers :)
CrazeKillen 2 months ago
@CrazeKillen A polar orbit would take the ISS over the north and south poles and twice a year, it would happen that it never crossed into Earth's shadow. That allows you to look at the object for a few days continuously. But it's actual orbit only takes it between 51.6° latitude north and south. You can check the map where that is.
TFoot's telescope could still look at an object that's in the direction normal to the orbital plane, but no planets will be seen in that direction.
IRisingFuryI 2 months ago
@IRisingFuryI I am sure you are correct that it is not in polor orbit. Thunderfoot, This detail is something you need to check on. We like your accuracy on things and when you get it wrong, I am sure you will be the first to admit it. Lets make sure all of us do not act on erronious information. ---------------Sacramento
dave95841 2 months ago
@dave95841 I think you mean 'polar'. Please try and get it right.
kcdummy 2 months ago
Dear Dr Bunnyfoot. It took until 3:40 until you sold me on this idea, and only because my own imagination kicked in as to the potential benefits of such a project.
Could you please explain what point you see in this observation other that just watching the celestial dance like a voyeur? It is likely we agree but I'd like to hear/see it from you before proceeding.
gleehmee 2 months ago
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i wonder why they didnt already attach hubble-quality telescopes to the ISS, after all there are people there that can always shedule another spacewalk if anything needs fixing or upgrading, also they have robots they can use in space.
Why not build two james webb space telescopes and attach one to the ISS using a robotic arm? Observing conditions are a bit worse, but access and servicing and fixing and upgrading are MUCH easier.
kurtilein3 2 months ago
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kurtilein3 2 months ago
@kurtilein3 One reason: vibrations. If you have ever heard an un-edited video from space, there are a LOT of electrical motors constantly running that are quite noisy. When you are trying to take Hubble quality photos, you can't have vibrations. It would be more trouble than it is worth to insulate a telescopic mechanism from the bumps and whatnot that go on in the ISS.
Aezelll 2 months ago
@Aezelll
I dont think thats it. Vibrations can easily be dealt with. Also, i was thinking about a telescope that operates outside of the ISS, in the vacuum, and is just connected to it. Such a connection can be made so that it doesnt transport any vibrations, and it wouldnt be expensive. The trivial idea would be to connect it to the ISS using a rope that is not under tension, have the telescope floating along, and when access is needed you just pull it to the ISS.
kurtilein3 2 months ago
I used to get 24/7 views of the sky, but then I started spouting repetitive memes
annoythefish 2 months ago
@mackmatthew64 lol i see, you meant the entire process. sounded like you just meant the act.
BringerOfD 2 months ago
you're a beast
Newbrict 2 months ago
Damnit! Turned 19 today!!
daneblan 2 months ago
astronomy rocks.
thereforeithought 2 months ago
Can anyone tell me the reasoning for having 4 observation points on the earth version of this experiment instead of 3? It seems that the same model shown in the video would work with 3 observation points providing continuous observation.
Have I overlooked something?
manbearpig900 2 months ago
@manbearpig900
the project was based on volunteers, and if you get one volunteer in new york and one in san francisco they might already be too close together to allow for just 3 doing it. Also, having some overlap/redundancy that allows you to cut out the worst data isnt bad. And while were at it, why not 6 or 10 instead of 3 or 4? redundancy against cloud cover is nice, some will have better resolutions while others have good observing conditioins more often.
kurtilein3 2 months ago
@manbearpig900
The sky gets lighter as you move to the day side, even if you can't see the sun. So to be safe, at least 4 would be a good idea.
nashertheatheist 2 months ago
An unsupervised camera in space? You must be kidding me.
SuperFinGuy 2 months ago
@mackmatthew64 better question is how would it affect the development of a fetus. screwing should be about the same as it is here.
BringerOfD 2 months ago
awesome video, FAVED
RobLesterArchive 2 months ago
I'm entering it, if it hasn't already been claimed.
drewsta199 2 months ago
That age limit things bugged me, for the Lunar X prize too, like why bother leaving it up to kids only without any opportunity for older people to contribute good ideas?
But yeah, I like the idea of a telescope that can be pointed into space and down to earth.
EthanNin0 2 months ago
Google are going into space!? Sounds like operation "Google takes over the world" has commenced.
Larvemannenz001 2 months ago
@Larvemannenz001 silly there's no need for that , google already owns everything.....
iamLI3 2 months ago
So tempted to do this. I'm 15, but i lack the means of being able to edit this and use it.
drewsta199 2 months ago
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@drewsta199 keepvid dotcom and windows movie maker?
JagermeisterDetox 2 months ago
@drewsta199 don't you have windows movie maker?....
iamLI3 2 months ago
What do you think about Kepler-22b earths twin amazing discovery there and hope of finding new planets like our own are growing on the Drake equation what do think about it.
BahamutDKing 2 months ago 3
too old for it =(
james79ableify 2 months ago
nah
JoshD667 2 months ago
A great idea. I hope an enthusiastic teen runs with this.
I read that the ISS adjusts its orbit occasionally (I don't know how frequently) using the engines of docked supply craft or its own on-board engines. Need to re-orientate the proposed telescope.
LsBaba 2 months ago