The pod's (under the military aircraft which were controlled from the ground and flown into the WTC's) were used to fire a missile just before impact, allowing a deeper penetration. The 'nose out' theory is wrong.. the explosion is the shape of the nose (natural)
Just curious, if a plane didn't hit the towers, what did? A missile? A bomb inside? Something else? What's the no-planer explanation for what DID cause whatever we saw on TV that day?
@sixdgrs.. a (holographic) plasma generator.. this method also caused the controlled plasma fires and IMplosion in order to bring down WTC 7.. >> watch?v=pZ6vgo11Sto
that helicopter explains the mysterious light that flashes across the face of the tower right before impact... and continuing to the face of the building across the street. search "9/11 laser weapons" for the video of that light.
ok you idiot..when an object crashes into an object..it doesnt explode...etc..right away...especially with heavy objects..if you throw a water balloon and a wall and watch a slow version of it..you'll see it doesnt break right away..this is exactly what happened with the WTC
The fact alone, that these 'debunkers' try to spam the thread with not just one or two responses, but ten or fifteen to every 'truther' post, would make it clear they are not serious thinkers, but just try to force serious responses down on the page. And if 70% of their posts is just clear bullying, you KNOW its not necessary to respond. Thumb down and ignore.
Best thing to do is to try reasoning one time, and if someone acts in the Miko5000 way, showing only hostility, just disengage from any word-battle. Thumb down and ignore.
COINTELPRO or not, the same tactics are used.
Ignorance and misled patriotism are just as useful to the cointel-people.
All debunkers do is discredit theories by repeating bits of what other people say and then declaring that they 'know' the 'truthers' have no scientific evidence. Even wehn evidence is shown they will not credit it.
Second thing they will do is use abuse to steer the conversation into an abuse game. Trying to anrage people.
Then they will say it's 'disrespectful' to the real victims of 9/11.
They will say everyone is behind the 'true' story, and that truthers are a handful of idiots.
The 911 hologram theory is the most embarrassing thing I've ever heard. You may as well believe in Santa Clause, there's twice the evidence.
Holograms don't: Reflect light, create shadow, make plane shaped holes, explode into plane parts, carry passengers, show up on radar, create sound, look solid in daylight, appear 'dark', project onto nothing, show up from 360 degrees, travel miles and miles, etc.
I believe 911 was an inside job but what you are saying is pure nonsense. I know many people who saw the second plane hit. I believe the jet airliners that crash into the towers were cargo planes driven by remote control into the buildings. The real airliners were forced to land passengers murdered and replaced with these cargo planes. A missile or a droun crashed into the pentagon.
Ace Baker is offering anyone who Claims to have seen the 2nd Plane strike $ 1,000 to speak with him about it for a Brief Interview
i Myself have tried to speak with anyone out there who claims to have seen the Planes and over 3 yrs searching i can find NO ONE who is willing to say one single word about it.
I directly challenge you to provide me with 1 actual real person that has seen the 2nd strike.
I have since 2001 retired. Keep posting your challange someone will answer.
If you want to talk to me,I heard and saw the imprint of the jet airliner in tower 2.
I said a drone or missle hit the pentagon. I said a cargo jet airliner can be flown by remote control and hit both towers. They can land them and do takeoffs. check google.
they fully take on the scenario of possible remote controlled drones hitting the WTC, but they logically demonstrate the immense complexity and difficulty of being able to actually do it
The problems with being to pull that off so precisely without a hitch, are MASSIVE,
Video Fakery and compositing fake plane images into the Video are much safer, easier and with much less risk of getting caught
I love how you compare flying planes remotly (real technology that has been tried and tested) to real time CGI that places a pre-rendered plane in a live helicopter shot (absolutely impossible to pull off.)
You should have gone with holograms, that way you wouldn't have to ignore all of the eyewitnesses that disprove your dipshit theory.
@Miko5000 most eye witnesses saw missles coming from a helicopter when i was there 2 days later. there is a better vid of this out there showing that thing hit from right underneath and the video does the same thing showing a large missle with wings flashing when you play it in slo-motion.
9/11 was not shown live to whoever wrote that it was on a 15 delay. the feeds were shared for some reason that day when it happened.
you havent seen the videos? were have you been for 9 years? there were alot of videos up talking about that right after it happened? maybe your new to this but you dont seem to have done much research on 9/11.
a plane can not pass thru a building that size and parts of the plane would be breaking off as it hits the building.
why are you trolling?
How are your trolling sales going? i dont think anyone is buying it.
Ace Baker has also Been Publicly offering Anyone out there goin on 4 yrs now, who has an Original Hard Copy Video tape of the 2nd Plane strike , a whopping $ 100,000 for the tape.
NOT 1 single person has stepped forward and Produced such a Tape.
if you know of anyone than by all means email him at
ACEBAKER1234 AT YAHOO COM
You need to read the fine articles up on 911CLOSEUP COM they totally take apart with logic why Drones wouldnt work
@ACEBAKER911 - Hahahaha. Dipshot no planers like to pretend that the no plane theory is the easier and more logical one. That's because they're pathetically retarded and the least intelligent of all society.
Ace, you couldn't be less connected to reality. Go fake your suicide again.
Compressed fuel tanks in the thin aluminum wings painted with "DON'T STEP HERE" go through steel beams like a cheese grater without exploding...RIDICULOUS is RIGHT! Ever see what a bird strike does to a plane wing? Or how a hail storm knocked off the entire nose of a big jet? DoD website 2020 info describes hologram military technology. Military Industrial complex companies always want to test out their latest toys on a brain-dead public to promote new wars and boost share prices.
I think you're looking at it the wrong way...... The "TV Magic" people know how to create and edit video, just watch any movie, tv show or commercial, they know what they're doing... how would they "put together" something like 9/11 while taking parts of the plane out?
Btw: As many others I think your democracy is under havy attack. Undemocratic mights have overtaken leading positions of politics, media and buisness. Corporatism has taken it s place.
The destroyed building, the "Patriot act", the concentration camps, the wars. We had that once again in history. Not in america but in Nazi Germany from 1933 - 1945.
The america of concentration camps and aggressive wars is not the democratic america that defend freedom in europe 60 ago.
so other civilians that taped the 9/11 towers, were they also payed, unch of retards, it's real everything's real stop crying it happened you cant change shit, DEAL WITH IT!!!
quit lying, your busted. American people will bring justice to those who did it. Obviously the media and government. I don t know what people are doing with the murderers of so many innocent americans. Hang them?? We will see. Time is working against you. Guilty will come.
they werent missiles, ppl just dont like the goverment so they start making up all that shit, fuck those retards, making shit up like that, Im tired of ppl bitching complaining that those were missile who fuckin cares, stop bitching
I can asume you didnt loose family members on 911, If you knew the goverment had a part on the attaks and lost family or friends then im sure you will be thinking diferently, but since you dont give a damn your opinion is worth shit here, so go somewhere else with ur crap.
Look up the amateur videos, and you will see they are edited or are just plain fabricated, and what happened to all those peolple that saw a missile? There where noumerous people that saw a missle but the media didnt cover that. Search on the subject and you will see that its very posible to do this, you just dont want to believe it thats all. Money is the root of all evil.
OHHHH so YOU saw the actual plane hit???? Because if you didnt then shut up, look up this footage, its like that in every video. If you slow down every footage of the plans hitting the towers you will see more anomalies and errors. LOOK it up before making coments, educate yourself on the subject before posting mindless responses.
I believed him at one point, until I realized he was mainly just a profiteer then started running a disinfo website filled with 9/11 no-planer liar blogs, he is not to be trusted.
Figures Rick Siegel would sell out to disinfo, I never thought his audio of the collapses was authentic either. Example, ask him how he knows the flashes are from RDX, he states it as a fact in his docu but cites zero proof. Apparently he just knows they are from RDX.
The pod's (under the military aircraft which were controlled from the ground and flown into the WTC's) were used to fire a missile just before impact, allowing a deeper penetration. The 'nose out' theory is wrong.. the explosion is the shape of the nose (natural)
PronStarKilluminati 7 months ago
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OMG you guys are kidding me...LOL Too much Sy Fy channel for you guys...LOL
dclark61 9 months ago
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dclark61 9 months ago
OMG you guys are kidding me...LOL Too much Sy Fy channel for you guys...LOL
dclark61 9 months ago
Just curious, if a plane didn't hit the towers, what did? A missile? A bomb inside? Something else? What's the no-planer explanation for what DID cause whatever we saw on TV that day?
sixdgrs 9 months ago
@sixdgrs.. a (holographic) plasma generator.. this method also caused the controlled plasma fires and IMplosion in order to bring down WTC 7.. >> watch?v=pZ6vgo11Sto
nibirushock 2 months ago
they want us to know its fake,all part of the plan folks and my cousin was in new york on 9/11 and saw no planes only explosions
amcanmike 1 year ago
@amcanmike WE know it's fake...
the 'truth' movement doesn't want the REAL info out there...
so, no, they DON'T want you to know it's TV fakery...
just ask alex jones and jesse v.
wsee 9 months ago
hahahaha wow you seriously watch way too many movies XD
Ivansama94 1 year ago
At 500 miles an hour I would think that the Jet can penetrate quite well.
Jayteah1953 1 year ago
@Jayteah1953 Planes can't fly that fast in the first place at that low an altitude. See Pilots for 9/11 Truth website for details.
73849309378 8 months ago
erm... thousands of people saw the planes.. and NOT holograms! Your video is too silly!
BarneveldDarts 1 year ago
that helicopter explains the mysterious light that flashes across the face of the tower right before impact... and continuing to the face of the building across the street. search "9/11 laser weapons" for the video of that light.
tonoklein 1 year ago
ok you idiot..when an object crashes into an object..it doesnt explode...etc..right away...especially with heavy objects..if you throw a water balloon and a wall and watch a slow version of it..you'll see it doesnt break right away..this is exactly what happened with the WTC
Bey0ndKha0s1825 1 year ago
The fact alone, that these 'debunkers' try to spam the thread with not just one or two responses, but ten or fifteen to every 'truther' post, would make it clear they are not serious thinkers, but just try to force serious responses down on the page. And if 70% of their posts is just clear bullying, you KNOW its not necessary to respond. Thumb down and ignore.
dervishmadwhirler 1 year ago
Best thing to do is to try reasoning one time, and if someone acts in the Miko5000 way, showing only hostility, just disengage from any word-battle. Thumb down and ignore.
COINTELPRO or not, the same tactics are used.
Ignorance and misled patriotism are just as useful to the cointel-people.
Thumb down and ignore.
dervishmadwhirler 1 year ago
All debunkers do is discredit theories by repeating bits of what other people say and then declaring that they 'know' the 'truthers' have no scientific evidence. Even wehn evidence is shown they will not credit it.
Second thing they will do is use abuse to steer the conversation into an abuse game. Trying to anrage people.
Then they will say it's 'disrespectful' to the real victims of 9/11.
They will say everyone is behind the 'true' story, and that truthers are a handful of idiots.
dervishmadwhirler 1 year ago
@dervishmadwhirler
You said it all.
The blind will never see.
TGBigChilly4 1 year ago
The 911 hologram theory is the most embarrassing thing I've ever heard. You may as well believe in Santa Clause, there's twice the evidence.
Holograms don't: Reflect light, create shadow, make plane shaped holes, explode into plane parts, carry passengers, show up on radar, create sound, look solid in daylight, appear 'dark', project onto nothing, show up from 360 degrees, travel miles and miles, etc.
Miko5000 1 year ago
there not holograms.
edited video maybe but not holograms.
fixed92 1 year ago
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"edited video maybe but not holograms. "
What experience do you have with video and CGI?
Miko5000 1 year ago
@fixed92 - I'll take that as, 'none whatsoever.'
Miko5000 1 year ago
test
PsychoSpammer 2 years ago
A tornado can push a soft plastic drinking straw into a hard oak tree. Just sayin'.....
hillsmith 2 years ago
That's an urban myth
PsychoSpammer 2 years ago
WATCH these vids !
Theory of Ghostplane
911 taboo
September clues
911 inside out Pilots
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
heres a better more fitting analogy than yours
Can a Tornado Push a Styrofoam cup to penetrate a Brick wall ? NOPE
If you believe this Plane was so Strong to Penetrate the Weak fragile WTC tower , than why didnt the Plane exit out the Other side of the Bldg ?
Why did this supposed plane just somehow suddenly STOP completely once inside the bldg ?
Its obvious the videos are Fake and NO planes were used
watch this video
THEORY OF GHOSTPLANE
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
No....it can't.
duhmasolL33T 2 years ago
watch this vid
THEORY OF GHOSTPLANE
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
Don't bring up chemtrails either, they don't see them.
cdimmm 2 years ago
I was working on the 50th floor of a building in lower manhattan that day.
I heard the jet airliner hit and many of my colleges saw it crash into tower 2. No hologram,this was the real thing.
drudge20 2 years ago
Bullshit
Fact is there are NO real actual living people that were witnesses to any planes hitting the towers.
If there were than i urge you to email Ace at
ACEBAKER1234 AT YAHOO COM
hes offering a cash reward for anyone who is willing to step fwd and be interviewed on what they saw.
hes had this challenge up for 3 yrs and so far NO ONE has stepped fwd to submit to questions.
fact is no planes were ever used , its irrefutable
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
I believe 911 was an inside job but what you are saying is pure nonsense. I know many people who saw the second plane hit. I believe the jet airliners that crash into the towers were cargo planes driven by remote control into the buildings. The real airliners were forced to land passengers murdered and replaced with these cargo planes. A missile or a droun crashed into the pentagon.
drudge20 2 years ago
Ace Baker is offering anyone who Claims to have seen the 2nd Plane strike $ 1,000 to speak with him about it for a Brief Interview
i Myself have tried to speak with anyone out there who claims to have seen the Planes and over 3 yrs searching i can find NO ONE who is willing to say one single word about it.
I directly challenge you to provide me with 1 actual real person that has seen the 2nd strike.
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
I have since 2001 retired. Keep posting your challange someone will answer.
If you want to talk to me,I heard and saw the imprint of the jet airliner in tower 2.
I said a drone or missle hit the pentagon. I said a cargo jet airliner can be flown by remote control and hit both towers. They can land them and do takeoffs. check google.
drudge20 2 years ago
if you read the fine well written articles up on
911closeup com
they fully take on the scenario of possible remote controlled drones hitting the WTC, but they logically demonstrate the immense complexity and difficulty of being able to actually do it
The problems with being to pull that off so precisely without a hitch, are MASSIVE,
Video Fakery and compositing fake plane images into the Video are much safer, easier and with much less risk of getting caught
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
I love how you compare flying planes remotly (real technology that has been tried and tested) to real time CGI that places a pre-rendered plane in a live helicopter shot (absolutely impossible to pull off.)
You should have gone with holograms, that way you wouldn't have to ignore all of the eyewitnesses that disprove your dipshit theory.
How are your DVD sales going?
Miko5000 2 years ago
@Miko5000 most eye witnesses saw missles coming from a helicopter when i was there 2 days later. there is a better vid of this out there showing that thing hit from right underneath and the video does the same thing showing a large missle with wings flashing when you play it in slo-motion.
9/11 was not shown live to whoever wrote that it was on a 15 delay. the feeds were shared for some reason that day when it happened.
fixed92 1 year ago
"most eye witnesses saw missles coming from a helicopter" - Where are the videos of this?
"showing a large missle with wings" - Those are called 'planes.'
"wings flashing when you play it in slo-motion."
So, were the wings a hologram? What does that mean?
"it was on a 15 delay." - 15 seconds is not enough to composite a plane into a video that's not on a constant track. Impossible.
"the feeds were shared for some reason"
That's how news works, dude.
Miko5000 1 year ago
why are you a hologram freak.
you havent seen the videos? were have you been for 9 years? there were alot of videos up talking about that right after it happened? maybe your new to this but you dont seem to have done much research on 9/11.
a plane can not pass thru a building that size and parts of the plane would be breaking off as it hits the building.
why are you trolling?
How are your trolling sales going? i dont think anyone is buying it.
fixed92 1 year ago
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@fixed92
"you havent seen the videos?"
Yes, I have. Unlike you, I understand them because this is what I do.
"a plane can not pass thru a building that size"
The size of the building doesn't matter at all. The plane weighs 350,000lbs and is going 500mph, it can easily penetrate the outer columns.
"parts of the plane would be breaking off."
Sure, but their momentum would still carry them into the building.
"i dont think anyone is buying it." The majority is on my side.
Miko5000 1 year ago
Ace Baker has also Been Publicly offering Anyone out there goin on 4 yrs now, who has an Original Hard Copy Video tape of the 2nd Plane strike , a whopping $ 100,000 for the tape.
NOT 1 single person has stepped forward and Produced such a Tape.
if you know of anyone than by all means email him at
ACEBAKER1234 AT YAHOO COM
You need to read the fine articles up on 911CLOSEUP COM they totally take apart with logic why Drones wouldnt work
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
There are a MILLION problems with using drone Cargo Planes.
Its simply not plausible or realistic and is pure fantasy.
Check out the videos
911 INSIDE OUT PILOTS
911 taboo
September Clues
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
@ACEBAKER911 - Hahahaha. Dipshot no planers like to pretend that the no plane theory is the easier and more logical one. That's because they're pathetically retarded and the least intelligent of all society.
Ace, you couldn't be less connected to reality. Go fake your suicide again.
Miko5000 1 year ago
So you're saying that the plane was a hologram that was projected by a helicopter?
You're not serious, right? I mean, no one could be this ridiculous.
bigswangingballs23 2 years ago
Compressed fuel tanks in the thin aluminum wings painted with "DON'T STEP HERE" go through steel beams like a cheese grater without exploding...RIDICULOUS is RIGHT! Ever see what a bird strike does to a plane wing? Or how a hail storm knocked off the entire nose of a big jet? DoD website 2020 info describes hologram military technology. Military Industrial complex companies always want to test out their latest toys on a brain-dead public to promote new wars and boost share prices.
christollinger 2 years ago 6
Whats ridiculous is the masses have decided to use the mass media for answers rather than their own common sense!!
KellyNUTS 2 years ago 2
I think you're looking at it the wrong way...... The "TV Magic" people know how to create and edit video, just watch any movie, tv show or commercial, they know what they're doing... how would they "put together" something like 9/11 while taking parts of the plane out?
juserphx 2 years ago
everybody should see this vid!!!
eliasII 3 years ago
as,I'm not "involved" in this theme,so much,must say,that "on the other side",I'm very interested in it,for several reasons ...
this "piece of work" is well-done !!!
therefore my respect !!!
Best Regards,from STRONGPOINT !!!
Kammler03
Kammler03 3 years ago
Btw: As many others I think your democracy is under havy attack. Undemocratic mights have overtaken leading positions of politics, media and buisness. Corporatism has taken it s place.
The destroyed building, the "Patriot act", the concentration camps, the wars. We had that once again in history. Not in america but in Nazi Germany from 1933 - 1945.
The america of concentration camps and aggressive wars is not the democratic america that defend freedom in europe 60 ago.
benzingermany 3 years ago
plz watch
video . google . com/videoplay?docid=5522575736561316064
benzingermany 3 years ago
so other civilians that taped the 9/11 towers, were they also payed, unch of retards, it's real everything's real stop crying it happened you cant change shit, DEAL WITH IT!!!
ZoeHannahan 3 years ago
m an im so glad not to live in the us with all those lies and guns. Thats not a healthy mix.
Baseball and popcorn would also do it.
benzingermany 3 years ago
quit lying, your busted. American people will bring justice to those who did it. Obviously the media and government. I don t know what people are doing with the murderers of so many innocent americans. Hang them?? We will see. Time is working against you. Guilty will come.
benzingermany 3 years ago
they werent missiles, ppl just dont like the goverment so they start making up all that shit, fuck those retards, making shit up like that, Im tired of ppl bitching complaining that those were missile who fuckin cares, stop bitching
ZoeHannahan 3 years ago
plz watch
watch?v=KAtd7CcToi4&feature=email
watch?v=ClVHovq4iTk&feature=re lated
Who s more reliable, whom do you believe??
You decide. It s Your Country.
benzingermany 3 years ago
I can asume you didnt loose family members on 911, If you knew the goverment had a part on the attaks and lost family or friends then im sure you will be thinking diferently, but since you dont give a damn your opinion is worth shit here, so go somewhere else with ur crap.
SpoonHPR 3 years ago 4
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I was part of 911 too, I lost a few friends aka the terrorrist flying the jet planes lol
ZoeHannahan 3 years ago
Look up the amateur videos, and you will see they are edited or are just plain fabricated, and what happened to all those peolple that saw a missile? There where noumerous people that saw a missle but the media didnt cover that. Search on the subject and you will see that its very posible to do this, you just dont want to believe it thats all. Money is the root of all evil.
SpoonHPR 3 years ago 2
yeah the ppl that wants to blame the government edited the videos, dumbass, hope something else blow's up they'll probly blame godzilla then lol
ZoeHannahan 3 years ago
9/11 is real planes where hijacked and flown into these great build
Timigee 3 years ago
thats a big fat lie the plane was a real plane .
and it did have a left wing
Timigee 3 years ago
OHHHH so YOU saw the actual plane hit???? Because if you didnt then shut up, look up this footage, its like that in every video. If you slow down every footage of the plans hitting the towers you will see more anomalies and errors. LOOK it up before making coments, educate yourself on the subject before posting mindless responses.
SpoonHPR 3 years ago 9
@SpoonHPR Ejucate yourself from something that's not written by Jesse Ventura
Ivansama94 1 year ago
excellent vid!!! top notch!!
j2v2j2v2 3 years ago 3
wtf ?
sensisamurai 3 years ago
The video indicate that the airplane was a possible hologram (project blue beam?)
synchronized with real bomb explosion , i'm wrong?
weboy78 3 years ago 2
I believed him at one point, until I realized he was mainly just a profiteer then started running a disinfo website filled with 9/11 no-planer liar blogs, he is not to be trusted.
Xenomorph911 3 years ago
It was not a CGI job. Bombs were definitely in the building.
This is such disinformation. It discredits the entire movement.
LiquidMetalBand 3 years ago
Figures Rick Siegel would sell out to disinfo, I never thought his audio of the collapses was authentic either. Example, ask him how he knows the flashes are from RDX, he states it as a fact in his docu but cites zero proof. Apparently he just knows they are from RDX.
Xenomorph911 3 years ago 2
nice rainbow sky. ok then.
wasy35 3 years ago
GREAT Video. Look foreward to the rest!!!
zezt 3 years ago 3
Bad and sad effort.
Never give up.
drocloce 3 years ago