Throttle Body Spacer and Cold Air Intake Installation.

[DTPDrummer92]

what ive noticed is when people install the TBS on bigger engines they dont see much of a hp gain ect. but i had a buddy install one on his V6 camry and saw just with the TBS a 16hp gain at the dyno. can anyone explain?

[MrJesus702]

this guy needs to stop screaming

[71dusterkid50]

You forgot the part where you put the big ass 105mm turbo on that bitch and watch her fly.

[05corvette1]

Installing a spacer on my 03 Hemi 1500. I used spacers on carburated engines for years. Same idea applys with throttle body engines. The extra air velocity adds more torque and better throttle response. Anyone with a GM vortec? These motors love bolt-ons!

[johnnyboy922]

@05corvette1 ...... LLLAAAAGGGGG the last thing i want is more distance between the filter and engine. if you dont think it creates lag then go ahead and keep doing it but the throttle response your looking for is accomplished my shortening the distance

[CaMaRo1RoC89]

@johnnyboy922 well i have a helix on my camaro bro and i dont get any lag...

[johnnyboy922]

@CaMaRo1RoC89 you may not notice it. but its a fact that it is there even though it may not effect it to be noticeable. nor is a spacer worth the money. but you can spend money on stupid mods or you can find better way to make power not with a little piece of plastic

[CaMaRo1RoC89]

@johnnyboy922 to be fair its not plastic...plastic would melt at that heat im sure.... the TB does get realy hot....well i got it for 15 bucks.. so it doesnt hurt....

[johnnyboy922]

@CaMaRo1RoC89 plastic would not melt. some plastics would but my upper intake is plastic on my truck. and does fine. there are metal and plastic ones available. point is. hit the dyno with it off.. then hit it with it on and there will not be a change in power which would be caused by a change in the fuel/air mixture or better atomization of the gas. not sure you will see either

[silverdiaz7]

Hey their, i have a 07 tundra and bought the tbs, how do i know if i have the throttle body spacer the wrong way? ive tried it both ways and i can hear the whistle either way. i bought the taylor tbs though. And will my car mess up if its incorrect? Also i have it installed and for some reason my rpms are in between 1.5-2 wich is abnormal any suggestions? asap please

[tippman6]

whats the point if you still have the stock air box on the throttle body..thats where you lose air flow..if you were gonna just replace the tube and put spacers on it i would of just bought a K&N filter to put into the stock box..

[Galal0110]

i got a question. how exactly does a cold air intake decrease the temperature of intake air. I mean the stock air box has more fins = greater surface area = more heat loss, that's why i reckon it would be a more effective intake system than a CAI. Of course I know i'm wrong or else companies like AEM would'nt have been that big :) lol. is the trick is placing the intake conical fins away from the engine bay? please someone clarify this point for me?! thnx

[frosty9595]

@Galal0110 Not so much more cold air.... just alot more air.

[hamslice151]

i put one on my ford f-150 lighting. torque is now 485 ft. lbs. with a top speed of 180 mph. all for 90 bucks. i rule!!!!!!

[ZachJackProductions1]

isnt that a Short Ram intake?

[oooanthonyooo]

? so someone tell me how a spacer does anything for a electronic fuel injected engine.

[trainlinezoo]

@oooanthonyooo It spins or rifles the air mass - I can give you a comparison: Just imagine yourself under your ceiling fan while it's on high. Now, close your eyes and imagine you're on a tropical beach with two hot babes waving fig leafs over you to keep you shaded and cool. which one suits you better? Yeah - how much do these things cost for a 2.0L 4cyl?

[sc2dave]

@oooanthonyooo ,IT DOESN'T AND IT CANNOT!!! How can it keep spinning through the intake manifold runners,pass through the intake valve,which disrupts flow,is in the way and down onto the chamber?

[BullittAutomotive]

LOL i know thats a blazer just because the bottom half of the air box is the windshield washer resevoir

[torquemaster3000]

@riceski 

[evilaztec2002]

why would you do that !? thats a waste

[moosemobile33]

y would you use that kit it leaves stock resonator box in place thats the most restrictive part

[bmxmyway]

I was wondering, if you install a TBS, do you have to install a cold air intake? I changed my filter to a K&N drop in filter, will that work? thanks

[CodyMacRae]

it will work fine you dont HAVE to install a Cold Air Intake

[brgs27]

I am still on the fence about getting one for my 99' Blazer... I agree about one thing, this dude is boring me to death with his PBS announcer voice... Jeeezz..... LOL!!!

[Sauron767]

i heard NOTHING positive on a throttle body because they said it does nothing some even said even poor fuel economy

[Magnuspire]

I had a buddy with a truck exactly like mine. He said out of everything he's done to the truck, he said that one was just wasting money. What's sad is people swear by TBS all the time. The TBS is just like that crappy Tornado that came out. Even benchmarks said it didn't do anything.

[pepene93]

@Magnuspire they actually can help, but not a wimpy little half inch thing. if you manage to fit a foot long TBS in ur car, congratulations, and itll help a bit, though your throttle response will be shit.

[mikodelick]

well how can a throttle body give poor fuel economy if u need it to run ur car effectivley, thats like saying an alternator actually kills engine life

[pepene93]

@mikodelick eh, unlike the claim of more mpg, an alternator does technically draw power, and in a way reduces life. their claims are more like saying an alternator reduces battery life.

[ShrewdShade]

That's just a freeflow... the real "cold air" intake kits go inside your bumper where the air is actually colder (cus it's further from the HOT engine)

[stenehjem1]

throttle body spacers is designed to greatly improve the low-end torque and horsepower characteristics of your engine. it accomplishes this by spacing the throttle body by 1" and adding a dyno-proven, helix-style bore. As the intake air passes through the spacer, the helix bore creates a vortex action that improves atomization. This allows for more efficient combustion, resulting in improved drivability and increased fuel efficiency.

[stichy420]

right after the air pass into the intake runners and past the valves thus making it completely pointless...

[1991SmokeyMcPot1991]

im a 1st year mech, i asked our head tech at work (been in the game for over 30years now and is a Master technician) he said this decrease power because after the throttle body the air moves in "crashing waves" motion, this bore is design to straighten the air and make it travel faster, but this doesnt work as engines and air intake systems these days are designed around the principal of this 'crashing wave' motion of air into the engine

[rgmartin2003]

What exactly does the throttle body spacer add to the car, I mean what purpose does it serve? Do they make those for any type of car?

[renesisrx8]

I wish I had one of those flex joint wrenches. Could have come in handy today when I installed a bigger tb on my car.

[HEYoREIDO]

funniest shit ever^ haha.

[025547]

hey, real mechanics dont wear gloves!

[eltoro13]

in their page they said the throttle body spacer will give my jeep GC 20 extra hp and better MPGs is that true or pure BS?

[maxperdu411]

just think of it a second. with a throttle body spacer, it takes more time for the air to go to the intake manifold, in order to go to the cylinder. If it actually gives more Hp, I would modify my car in order to have a longer short ram or cold air intake it would be the same thing I guess. So If think of it , in theory, it doesnt do anything. a bigger intake with a bigger filter along with a bigger throttle body and bigger intake manifold would do something, but a spacer... Bs

[maxperdu411]

and if it would gives Hp, why isnt there any popular company such as AEM , neuspeed, Turbonetic, etc..etc.. that makes them ? everytime I see throttle body spacer, the company making them is selling them on ebay ...

[sigslvcg5]

Why would you even put that hunk of plastic resonator back....waste of time

[pontiacgmx]

this really looks like a shitty aftermarket intake

[pontiacgmx]

more displacement more power folks, seems right to me unless physics is lying. if it says youll get 15hp from headers, 15hp from CAI and 10 from a cat-back exhaust its not 40hp your gaining. probably like 20..if that....dyno your stock cars crank power then its crank power and see if you really get 40 extra hp. I really doubt it.

[Graptor660r]

more hp is more gas?

[CALIBOYTEXAS]

why is the guy wearing gloves?????

[skatingsucks]

so his virgin hands don't get dirty

[iverson246]

LULZ

[scorpio1066]

unless you shield the filter this is a waste of time - all you do is suck in hot air from the engine bay.

[thazwhatshesaid]

Throttle body spacers do absolutely nothing to improve anything at all, also that resonator box is robbing the car of both power and sound, in a good system, it would be completely removed and the intake tube would be running straight into the throttle body

[johnnyponny4]

What about intake manifold spacers? Are they uselss too? I saw this site selling them for my car, and it claimed a 6 hp gain with no other mod. Just wondering

[thazwhatshesaid]

I can't honestly answer that as it varies per vehicle and I have very little experience with manifold spacers. If it does claim a 6hp gain, then all I can say is make sure they can give you dyno proof, or there is a moneyback guarantee if it doesn't.

[eric287565]

i think spacers are pretty useless. big horsepower gains are made in small steps. this is a good first step

[terminal2k7]

remember folks horsepower cost money, a cai can give 10 hp , by the time it reach the wheels 3 to 5hp

[TKOxPITCHBlAk]

Exactly, is the engine is cool, you go faster. it definitly lets you gain about 15-20 HP in your car.

[Frostman182]

if you get 15 hp out of that system I will eat it, the throttle spacer will do very very little. I cold air intake how ever may add 10 HP at the very most.

[vtecinfekshun]

so true i think its funny when ppl who have a cai,e,rh think ok the cold air is like 15hp the exhaust is another 10 and the header claimed 12-15 so 15+10+15=wow40hp!lol if it were only that easy huh?dont get me wrong its an ideal start but dnt always believe wat the box says lol

[Frostman182]

And in any case, to really get any use out of a header/intake/exhaust, you should retune your ecu/carb. And to really get the full bang from all of those mods, you need to start playing with cams, that's where everything starts to unlock it's potential. Think of a cam(s) as the brain of the motor, how the engine behaves depends on the cam profile. Everything else works around it. I know timing has a large roll too, but that is a tuning aspect. Same with fuel control.

[vtecinfekshun]

yea your car will def benefit from a new brain and increased fuel delivery.but ive always been hesitant to fuck with the internals of my car id hate to have to pay some stranger to mess around with my baby lol

[c7andrei]

You cant just swap cams you gora change the springs,retainers and valves too and its a bitch to replace if you dont wanna take the whole head out.Everyone knows that cams give alot of power but boltons with tune r way easier to install.

[Frostman182]

Well that's the price you have to pay if you want a performance engine. and I never said that cam was easy to do, I said it would unlock the full potential of the basic boltons. Not all cases do you need to change valves when you change a cam.

[c7andrei]

even with stage1 cams you need to replace the springs and retainers

[Frostman182]

LOL stage 1 eh? What's the lift, duration and overlap on a stage 1 cam? There are thousands of cams for all sorts of engines with different purposes. To call a "stage 1" cam an entry cam is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The same motor can have many cams available to do certain things based on what you are using it for. Go stick your head in a real car magazine. Read it and learn. They call things by "stages" now for the retards who don't know what they are talking about.

[funowning]

dumbest thing?Im going to put stage1 cams into my h22a,i dont see whats so funny about stage1 cams?

[Frostman182]

How high is the lift and how long is the duration? Is there over lap? Are you drag racing? Circuit racing? Street racing? A cam can make or break a run if the right cam is not picked.

[slugbeast1]

the "helix" and "spiral" will do nothing for power especially in fuel injected engines... obviously a throttle body spacer and cold air intake will have a power gain.

[dokutman]

yes its a ripoff, no hp gain for fuel injected engines. do some homework, you'll find out the truth

[WinTwins89]

No its not it helps the engine cool better

[sladkixxx]

lol

[atlram1]

Is this another one of those $200 ripoffs? HAHA